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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 3:52pm On Oct 11, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Bro, Ibime said it earlier, these people pay money just to even join the force

And their salaries are measly, assuming they even get paid on time or at all.

Police in Nigeria is a Ponzi scheme, it's like GNLD, Forever Living, or any other MLM.

The guys are the bottom are extorting funds to kick upstairs.

The level of effort you need to fix this kind of problem is.....well, it can't be done. Not in this lifetime at least.
I said something about bribes earlier. We have learned to live with those things, juys like the absence of electricity, good internet, good roads, high petrol prices, skyrocketing inflation etc.

The wahala is the killing and torture of innocent people. Why is it only SARS that is fingered?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 3:52pm On Oct 11, 2020
Look at rrslagos

If they had still remained under the current Police system, I doubt anyone will be praising them the way we do now.

Rrslagos is the only Police unit in the country that has Insurance (I stand to be corrected).

rrslagos are properly funded. They get paid salary and allowance as at when due

rrslagos does routine check on its personnel and continued training.

rrslagos takes accountability of its personnel serious. Any officer caught doing any illegal work is promptly disciplined.

rrslagos has better equipments. Better patrol vans, speed cars, power bikes and even helicopters. Every year companies donate cars and police equipment to them.

If the system is clean, policing will work.

It’s time to advocate for state police. Lagos state has showed us that state police can work.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 3:54pm On Oct 11, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Ok, so maybe those are the new SARS, because when I read some of the things SARS are being accused of now, it's no different to what we experienced 15-20 years ago under the normal black-clad legal armed robbers.

No. Rrs don’t patrol in unmarked car, bus or vans.

Tbvh though, I don’t see the reason why we have SARS in Lagos since rrs respond to 90% of the police emergency in the state.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 3:55pm On Oct 11, 2020
raumdeuter:


The problem is more than this

The problem In my opinion starts from recruitment, Law enforcement all over the world face a lot of risk to their lives and they get poorly paid. So that is enough incentive for them to be corrupt and money hungry in a lax society like Nigeria

I remember one guy that used to harrass us in the area as teenagers joined police within 2 months he was shot by smugglers around Idi-Iroko

So its not a job regular educated and calm people will likely do. Aside the officer rank, those law enforcement on the street are usually poorly educated and poorly paid

So if you are asked to face bullets to protect people while only receiving 20K a month which wont even be paid until 4 months later because one oga has sat on your salary and you cant even protest or strike like other workers or else they will jail you for mutiny then your only source of survival is to be corrupt and harrass people for money

Look at most police barracks they are usually the in squalid conditions, very dirty, the children not properly taken care of. Na barracks boys and girls dey first tear eye beause they mostly hustle for themselves

Your oga is addressing journalists promising reforms while your 25K a month has not been paid since June
Ehn they should take it out on their ogas. They should either protest or resign. If I'm working for a company that don't pay me enough, I don't steal from their clients but resign from there. If they want us to protest for better funding on their behalf, we will. Not stealing and harassing us. I understand that their funding is poorly executed, even I feel sorry for those that stay in the barracks. But they shouldn't transfer the aggression to us, there is only so much we can take.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 3:56pm On Oct 11, 2020
larride:


No. Rrs don’t patrol in unmarked car, bus or vans.

Tbvh though, I don’t see the reason why we have SARS in Lagos since rrs respond to 90% of the police emergency in the state.
Exactly what I was saying the other time. RRS is the unit doing the anti robbery job while SARS are harassing young people on the road

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:01pm On Oct 11, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Ok, so maybe those are the new SARS, because when I read some of the things SARS are being accused of now, it's no different to what we experienced 15-20 years ago under the normal black-clad legal armed robbers.

Looks like Sars upgraded they now use unmarked cars instead of buses. Dey now use POS and also follow you to ATM

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 4:01pm On Oct 11, 2020
Unlimited22:

I said something about bribes earlier. We have learned to live with those things, juys like the absence of electricity, good internet, good roads, high petrol prices, skyrocketing inflation etc.

The wahala is the killing and torture of innocent people. Why is it only SARS that is fingered?

Sloganism.

It's the easiest name to shout. Don't get me wrong o, it's not like SARS haven't earned their reputation, because they have.

But are they really worse that Mopol? Remember where Mopol brutality was a thing? Operation Sweep was also a thing.

I personally have abducted by AK at Meiran junction. They jumped in my car after beating me up and started driving to Alausa. I called my dad who spoke to them on the phone before they let me go. Apologies if you're not familiar with these areas..I know you're not a Lagos boy.

What was my offense? I didn't let them force me into a ditch when they tried to overtake me.

I think I might have shared that story here before.

Don't let anybody spin one useless agenda and tell you that the police(at least in Lagos) were saints compared to SARS - That one is a bloodclaart lie.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 4:02pm On Oct 11, 2020
eph12:

Ehn they should take it out on their ogas. They should either protest or resign.

If I'm working for a company that don't pay me enough, I don't steal from their clients but resign from there.

If they want us to protest for better funding on their behalf, we will. Not stealing and harassing us. I understand that their funding is poorly executed, even I feel sorry for those that stay in the barracks. But they shouldn't transfer the aggression to us, there is only so much we can take.

Until your oga puts a gun in your hand, and shows you how to collect money on the streets.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 4:03pm On Oct 11, 2020
Chelsea women doing well as usual...Man City don turn to their customer.

Man U got lucky in game week 1.

Kerr and Kirby combining superbly.

City pull one back lipsrsealed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:03pm On Oct 11, 2020
raumdeuter:


Sodik

Please I take God beg you stop.

I think what is happening now is the release of pent up anger and frustration.
For years airmark has mocked sodick on
the treatment he faced in the hands of Sars and sodick is now using this unique moment for retribution. cheesy
Anyways, make una sheath una swords abeg. You guys have gone too deep already.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:06pm On Oct 11, 2020
larride:
Look at rrslagos

If they had still remained under the current Police system, I doubt anyone will be praising them the way we do now.

Rrslagos is the only Police unit in the country that has Insurance (I stand to be corrected).

rrslagos are properly funded. They get paid salary and allowance as at when due

rrslagos does routine check on its personnel and continued training.

rrslagos takes accountability of its personnel serious. Any officer caught doing any illegal work is promptly disciplined.

rrslagos has better equipments. Better patrol vans, speed cars, power bikes and even helicopters. Every year companies donate cars and police equipment to them.

If the system is clean, policing will work.

It’s time to advocate for state police. Lagos state has showed us that state police can work.
They have private shareholders right?
Have been thinking why can't the federal government release the burden of some military or para military parts to rich civilians in exchange for the tax
With this embezzlement of public funds can also reduce
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:06pm On Oct 11, 2020
eph12:

Ehn they should take it out on their ogas. They should either protest or resign. If I'm working for a company that don't pay me enough, I don't steal from their clients but resign from there. If they want us to protest for better funding on their behalf, we will. Not stealing and harassing us. I understand that their funding is poorly executed, even I feel sorry for those that stay in the barracks. But they shouldn't transfer the aggression to us, there is only so much we can take.

Which ogas? When they protest or strike they are all court-martialled for treason.

Actually many people who are underpaid resort to other means thats why private university lecturers don't sell handouts or collect blatant settlement

I am sure you will say underpaid lecturers should also resign instead of collecting bribes well that is an ideal society

If you are hungry and not been paid but you have a legal gun. What are the things you are likely to do? I am sure you will say you should take your hunger like that and just die instead of robbing innocent but many people would rather do anything just to survive
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EarlRagnar2(m): 4:08pm On Oct 11, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Sloganism.

It's the easiest name to shout. Don't get me wrong o, it's not like SARS haven't earned their reputation, because they have.

But are they really worse that Mopol? Remember where Mopol brutality was a thing? Operation Sweep was also a thing.

I personally have abducted by AK at Meiran junction. They jumped in my car after beating me up and started driving to Alausa. I called my dad who spoke to them on the phone before they let me go. Apologies if you're not familiar with these areas..I know you're not a Lagos boy.

What was my offense? I didn't let them force me into a ditch when they tried to overtake me.

I think I might have shared that story here before.

Don't let anybody spin one useless agenda and tell you that the police(at least in Lagos) were saints compared to SARS - That one is a bloodclaart lie.
Egbon mopol allowed you to call your dad, SARS will collect your phone beat you with cutlass. These guys are very wicked.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:09pm On Oct 11, 2020
A40:
Nigerians are typically docile. When was the last time you even saw people coming out with this outrage. I didn't think Nigerians still had it in them. The truth is those people have done too much and the rot is beyond repair. They have switched their guns and are attacking the most vulnerable people, the ones that can't even afford the monies these people demand and that is why everyone is so mad.

Don't get me wrong, scrapping SARS is only the first step but they have to go before we look at long term solution

I agree with you. I really was made to see that Sars is beyond reform.
I'm very impressed that the Nigerian youths found their voice and it was heard.
One hopes that this will be the first step of many towards achieving a sane society. Fingers crossed to see further developments.

Although there is a slight cause for concern that only one part of the country actively campaigned for this while the other half were docile. Going further we need the entire country to fight together for a common goal. There is strength in unity.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:10pm On Oct 11, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Sloganism.

It's the easiest name to shout. Don't get me wrong o, it's not like SARS haven't earned their reputation, because they have.

But are they really worse that Mopol? Remember where Mopol brutality was a thing? Operation Sweep was also a thing.

I personally have abducted by AK at Meiran junction. They jumped in my car after beating me up and started driving to Alausa. I called my dad who spoke to them on the phone before they let me go. Apologies if you're not familiar with these areas..I know you're not a Lagos boy.

What was my offense? I didn't let them force me into a ditch when they tried to overtake me.

I think I might have shared that story here before.

Don't let anybody spin one useless agenda and tell you that the police(at least in Lagos) were saints compared to SARS - That one is a bloodclaart lie
Plus RRS?
I remember operation sweep awon werey grin grin
If any police can allow you to make phone call you should be safe then
SARS are more like kidnapping

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:10pm On Oct 11, 2020
iamoyindamola:

They have private shareholders right?
Have been thinking why can't the federal government release the burden of some military or para military parts to rich civilians in exchange for the tax
With this embezzlement of public funds can also reduce

Won't those now become a willing tool in the hands of their shareholders

E.g that is basically a private militia for the rich
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 4:14pm On Oct 11, 2020
iamoyindamola:

They have private shareholders right?
Have been thinking why can't the federal government release the burden of some military or para military parts to rich civilians in exchange for the tax
With this embezzlement of public funds can also reduce

There are no private shareholders

What happened is the Lagos state government carved this unit out. They are being financed through the Lagos State Security Trust Fund (LSSTF).

Their primary task is to respond to emergencies... security emergencies..They have a toll free line. They have a structure, and they are assigned roles at specific areas in Lagos. For example, 3MB used to be notorious for robberies at night, but it has been minimal because the RRS are stationed 24 hours

Most importantly, they have a structure, so it's difficult for an officer to misbehave everytime

It's because of how organized the unit is, that's why corporate bodies decided to support them...Na still government get am
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 4:15pm On Oct 11, 2020
EarlRagnar2:
Egbon mopol allowed you to call your dad, SARS will collect your phone beat you with cutlass. These guys are very wicked.

That day they had already cocked the gun on my head.

It was one of their guys who actually even convinced his boss to allow them to carry me to Alausa instead.

That was the person that drove my car, and that was the one I begged to let me call my dad.

I thought I was a goner that day.

Bro, e be like say you never encounter AK before.

If bitcoin was a thing in the mid-2000s, those bastards would be extorting crypto too.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:15pm On Oct 11, 2020
raumdeuter:


Won't those now become a willing tool in the hands of their shareholders

E.g that is basically a private militia for the rich
Not entirely privatise, the shareholders will only be known to the government.
Remember this is a trade by barter, invest in them and you get a free tax
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:18pm On Oct 11, 2020
BlueAngel444:
Na so Dem go from Nepa to PHCN, e come be like say Na Nepa been dey better pass. SARS lipsrsealed

The current light situation is currently the best it's ever been. In my vicinity, we now have at least 12 hours of light every single day. I have not used my power bank in more than 2 months.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:19pm On Oct 11, 2020
izzou:


There are no private shareholders

What happened is the Lagos state government carved this unit out. They are being financed through the Lagos State Security Trust Fund (LSSTF).

Their primary task is to respond to emergencies... security emergencies..They have a toll free line. They have a structure, and they are assigned roles at specific areas in Lagos. For example, 3MB used to be notorious for robberies at night, but it has been minimal because the RRS are stationed 24 hours

Most importantly, they have a structure, so it's difficult for an officer to misbehave everytime

It's because of how organized the unit is, that's why corporate bodies decided to support them...Na still government get am
Raumdeuter this is part of what I am saying.
@izzou the corporate bodies supporting them won't be for free right?

Dangote gave them nice cars I'm sure he will get something back
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:22pm On Oct 11, 2020
nihilistjnr:
Now that SARS has ended, I am sure that the former SARS officers will all have a change of heart, and choose to be upstanding law-abiding upholders of the law in their new deployments.

Well, at least the change has to start from somewhere. It's left for the youths to recognize this small win and push further.
They can begin a campaign against road side military men that seek bribes.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 4:23pm On Oct 11, 2020
iamoyindamola:

this is part of what I am saying.
u the corporate bodies supporting them won't be for free right?

Dangote gave them nice cars I'm sure he will get something back

Lol grin
No naaa

See, their job is to respond to emergencies..They don't have checkpoints to do stop and search...

They don't go about parking cars or looking out for people that are suspicious..

All they do is respond to emergency calls. So even if Dangote gives them 2 billion, there's nothing they will give him in return..

If he's not being attacked or robbed, they have no business with him..That's how their structure is
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 4:25pm On Oct 11, 2020
nihilistjnr:


Until your oga puts a gun in your hand, and shows you how to collect money on the streets.

Lol cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 4:26pm On Oct 11, 2020
iamoyindamola:

They have private shareholders right?
Have been thinking why can't the federal government release the burden of some military or para military parts to rich civilians in exchange for the tax
With this embezzlement of public funds can also reduce

Yes. Lagos State has Police Trust Fund where companies, individuals and public contribute into to fund rrs.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:26pm On Oct 11, 2020
The same thing different words cry cry

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 4:28pm On Oct 11, 2020
raumdeuter:


Which ogas? When they protest or strike they are all court-martialled for treason.

Actually many people who are underpaid resort to other means thats why private university lecturers don't sell handouts or collect blatant settlement

I am sure you will say underpaid lecturers should also resign instead of collecting bribes well that is an ideal society

If you are hungry and not been paid but you have a legal gun. What are the things you are likely to do? I am sure you will say you should take your hunger like that and just die instead of robbing innocent but many people would rather do anything just to survive
They should ask us to protest for them and we will. Some have even started it. There's only so much the people can take.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 4:29pm On Oct 11, 2020
izzou:


Lol grin
No naaa

See, their job is to respond to emergencies..They don't have checkpoints to do stop and search...

They don't go about parking cars or looking out for people that are suspicious..

All they do is respond to emergency calls. So even if Dangote gives them 2 billion, there's nothing they will give him in return..

If he's not being attacked or robbed, they have no business with him..That's how their structure is
Lol
He's a business man, his country remit paye to lirs
They can agree on something na
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 4:30pm On Oct 11, 2020
izzou:


Lol grin
No naaa

See, their job is to respond to emergencies..They don't have checkpoints to do stop and search...

They don't go about parking cars or looking out for people that are suspicious..

All they do is respond to emergency calls. So even if Dangote gives them 2 billion, there's nothing they will give him in return..

If he's not being attacked or robbed, they have no business with him..That's how their structure is

Correct.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 4:30pm On Oct 11, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Raumdeuter this is part of what I am saying.
@izzou the corporate bodies supporting them won't be for free right?

Dangote gave them nice cars I'm sure he will get something back

Corporate Social Responsibility.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:33pm On Oct 11, 2020
iamoyindamola:
The same thing different words cry cry

After this kind of brouhaha and upheaval, something is bound to be different this time. The international community is now at the forefront of this. Various credible Human Rights associations have now been made aware of this.

There is no doubt in my mind that something will fundamentally change now.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:33pm On Oct 11, 2020
Unlimited22:

Yes. But this is a necessary first step. It means that we have a voice.

No radio station or TV station in Nigeria reported this thing, yet the whole world heard it. Guess who controls the media in Nigeria.

Imagine if they'd passed the social media bill.

This is just step 1. Police brutality is a culture but SARS enamores it to extremely excruciating levels. They need to go first


I don't sense any concern in this announcement......I hope we are not being fooled to let our guards down by thinking we have gotten a solution to this menace.

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