Emusan:


So even the wicked are all BORN BY GOD and after the image of Him

So who will be affected by the second death?

Barristter07:
Tiki take , one two am loving your situation right now.

Your house is your possession, e.g I have a house.

Spirit does not have any such possession . It doesn't have flesh and blood. This cancel ur lies

Either Jesus is in God's nature which doesn't have flesh and bones or he isn't

Please and please explain the statement what is born of spirit , " IS SPIRIT "

Your first concortion says By the spirit. That's not what that verse said.

Emusan:


I've done that!

We're all human!

Explain why Jesus is called MAN in heaven?

So you can't provide screenshots of what led that to my statement, lying liar!

That is what it is!

Yeah! Paul didn't say so, YOU DID! which is the reason I said YES WE HAVE NO BATTLE WITH SINFUL NATURE.

You can see you've lost on this thread.

LIAR! You change God's kingdom = Possess heaven

because you know it contradicts your flesh and blood living forever on earth which is still part of God's kingdom.

So using 1 Corinthians 15:50 to proof Flesh and bones can't go to heaven is gross misunderstanding of the scripture.

Barristter07:

Are u ashamed of Barnes , bring it here make we see na

Barristter07:

The wicked will be ressurected, and according to Emusan all ressurection is to be patterned like the Last Adam . So they will also be heavenly like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly. Now I know the wicked will go to heaven too ... Courtesy of pastor Emusan Of glorified lies ministry

Go and read your Bible.

Emusan:


The nature of God in Christ remains intact.

I've done that again!
No! Just as you take BORN of spirit to mean RESURRECTED INTO SPIRIT BEING

BORN and RESURRECT aren't the same thing!

Emusan:


All these your Mumbo jumbo won't work!

Are the wicked also BORN OF GOD?

I do that always, do you?

Barristter07:
What is born of spirit " IS SPIRIT "

Jesus did same for John. God's kingdom in that context refer to the heavenly part of the kingdom1 New heavens.

Unless you mean John won't be in the kingdom. Hehehe I remember, wey your Barnes explanation.

Barristter07:
Yahweh has flesh and bones ??

Use sense na .

Your explanation was a lie.


" Regeneration of the body by the Holy Spirit to be conformed with the Image of the LAST ADAM.

What is born of flesh is flesh...
What is born of spirit is spirit...

So all must be transformed from flesh by the spirit. ".

Jesus said " IS SPIRIT " not by the spirit.

Barristter07:
Yes . They are children of God too

If you do, you would know only the heavenly ressurection is immune from second death. Anyone having the first ressurection cannot experience second death. But others can.

So the ressurection are not the same

Emusan:


Yes is spirit! You have problem with that?



Says the deluded JWs who have right to give meaning to every word in the Bible as it suits him.

When they don't even have knowledge in Hebrew and Greek!

Now Kingdom of God is having different meanings.

Deluded JWs.



John and ALL believers will be in God's kingdom but NOT WITH FLESH AND BLOOD but our glorified bodies which has FLESH and Bones.

That's what the verse mean.

Emusan:


Good so God will destroy ALL HIS CHILDREN!

All believers who resurrected ARE IMMUNE FROM SECOND DEATH because the scripture says CEV: "If you have ears, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches. WHOEVER wins the victory will not be hurt by the second death." Rev 2:11

It's evident JWs will be affected by the second death because they're not victorious!

Barristter07:

You are misaken, this Shows you are just a fraud. You can't even defend your lies in this topic.

" he reasoned with them from the Scriptures," Act 17:2

Bible support Reasoning from scriptures.

Now go back and answer those questions pertaining to Reasoning in the scriptures.

1. Matt 15:17 - Did Jesus excrete if he is human after ressurection ?

2. Do you accept Jesus doesn't have God's nature IF he is not spirit ? (JOHN 4:24 )

Emusan:


Says the deluded JWs!

Don't bother to use your sense.

Just as you are confused with your explanation.

No! Just as you take BORN of spirit to mean
RESURRECTED INTO SPIRIT BEING

BORN and RESURRECT aren't the same thing!

Ken4Christ:


My discussion with you ends. Your mind is blocked to receive God's word. Receive Christ first as your Lord and personal Saviour.Then we can talk.

Barristter07:


They will also be ressurected , (Act 24:15 )



If you read it well, this was a reference to First ressurection .

" Blessed and holy is he, whoever has part in the first resurrection, and the second death has no authority over these, but they shall be Priests of God and of The Messiah, and they shall reign with him 1000 years." Revelation 20:-

The implication here is once a person shares this ressurection , second death can't do them any harm.


This simply means those who get affected by second death must have shared a different kind of ressurection. And the Fact that names of those who are ressurected are checked in the book of life before getting harmed by second death proved they are not just sinners, believers are among them


This is why I called you a Liar

Not all believers have the heavenly hope to be a Spirit.

Barristter07:
The least person in the Kingdom is GREATER than John ??

Barristter07:
Spirit beings do not have flesh and bones.

Spirit is God's nature.

Jesus doesn't have God's nature.

Here is Barnes note on Matthew 11:11

" He that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he - The phrase "kingdom of heaven" is used in many senses. See the notes at Matthew 3:2. It here probably means, "in preaching the kingdom of God," or the gospel. It could hardly be affirmed of the obscurest and most ignorant Christian that he had clearer views than Isaiah or John; but of the apostles of the Saviour, of the first preachers who were with him and who heard his instructions, it might be said that they had more correct apprehensions than any of the ancient prophets, or than John. "

Is this what you agree with ??

Oooooo boyyyyyy

Emusan:


Says the deluded JWs!

Acts 17:31
because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a MAN whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”

It's MAN God has appointed not a Spirit!

Your lies will be keep exposed

You can say what is wrong with that explanation!

Emusan:


Yes! Do you have problem with that?

Barristter07:
They will also be ressurected , (Act 24:15 )

If you read it well, this was a reference to First ressurection .

" Blessed and holy is he, whoever has part in the first resurrection, and the second death has no authority over these, but they shall be Priests of God and of The Messiah, and they shall reign with him 1000 years." Revelation 20:-

The implication here is once a person shares this ressurection , second death can't do them any harm.


This simply means those who get affected by second death must have shared a different kind of ressurection. And the Fact that names of those who are ressurected are checked in the book of life before getting harmed by second death proved they are not just sinners, believers are among them


This is why I called you a Liar

Not all believers have the heavenly hope to be a Spirit.

Barristter07:

Jozzy4 already did.

Want I wanted from you now is : Give the correct explanation for the least person is greater than John?? This is the only thing that can help you right now and fix your flawed understanding

Barristter07:


Identification not nature. A man has blood , you no get sense .



Is preaching in the statement about John ?

Barristter07:
Identification not nature. A man has blood , you no get sense.

Is preaching in the statement about John ?

Barristter07:


If the least is greater than him, then he is not there.


The least person in primary 2 is greater than Romeo , it means Romeo is not a primary 2 student.

Emusan:


So God will destroy ALL HIS CHILDREN!



You're a liar!

SECOND DEATH itself is But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

No believer will ever involve in anything like this and still be part of Jesus follower.

And that Rev 2:11 points it out that, "WHOEVER is victorious will NEVER BE hurt by second death"

Lying liar JWs!

Emusan:


Says the deluded JWs!

Just like John won't be part of God's kingdom since no flesh and blood can inherit God's kingdom.

Emusan:


Ole...barawo!

So Jesus is identified AS MAN not spirit again.

Continue your lie

Your sense is blocked!



Read that expository again and again!

Barristter07:


Spirit beings do not have flesh and bones.

Spirit is God's nature.

Jesus doesn't have God's nature.



Here is Barnes note on Matthew 11:11

" He that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he - The phrase "kingdom of heaven" is used in many senses. See the notes at Matthew 3:2. It here probably means, "in preaching the kingdom of God," or the gospel. It could hardly be affirmed of the obscurest and most ignorant Christian that he had clearer views than Isaiah or John; but of the apostles of the Saviour, of the first preachers who were with him and who heard his instructions, it might be said that they had more correct apprehensions than any of the ancient prophets, or than John. "

Is this what you agree with ??

Oooooo boyyyyyy

Jozzy4:
He once mention that an angel also identify as Man. Despite he was a spirit.

To use that verse as proof, u must admit Jesus has blood like men. Cos that Greek word applies to people with flesh and blood

Jozzy4:
Mr small brain , Anyone who experience first ressurection is automatically in the book of life . No second death can over power them.

But we saw that the dead released from the Grave and the sea were checked in the book of life for names . This means they are not only sinners, righteous are among , and anyone whose name wasn't find get harmed by second death. This ressurection cannot be same as First, some of those who experience the second are harmed by second death . Cos once you experience the first , nobody can harm you.

Emusan:


Stop talking nonsense.

I was the one who countered that!

Here is what Apostle Paul said again Acts 17:31
"because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a MAN whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”

This is after resurrection, liars!

Crack head!

Glorified body is still Human but not with blood that's why flesh and blood can't inherit the kingdom of God.