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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:22pm On Oct 12, 2020 |
livingchrist: You need not ask more questions since you have concluded this is how Satan deceive people, and it's an unforgivable sin to mislead others. So since you're fully convinced that this is deceit, it will be better to end the discussion and say goodbye to each other, you'll worship your God the best way you can and i'll worship mine the best way i can! God bless you! 2 Likes |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 9:54pm On Oct 12, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: And you wrote "understood" below which means you didn't understand. Christ isn't coming to earth! Understood. You didn't What is the NEW HEAVEN and the NEW EARTH. Na wa ooo...see question! What will happen to the old heaven and the old earth? Dissolve! Is it a reformation or a recreation? A NEW one! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 10:41pm On Oct 12, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: two things 1. it's not an unforgivable sin to say how satan deceives people, right or wrong 2. you misled others who believe you in saying that it is the unforgivable sin is saying that Jesus had the spirit of beelzebub-the devil the scribes said Jesus performed His miracles by beelzebub that is the unforgivable sin, the sin against the Holy Spirit which will never be forgiven Mar 3:22 And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem said, "He has Beelzebul, and by the ruler of the demons he casts out demons." Mar 3:23 And he called them to him, and spoke to them in parables, "How can Satan cast out Satan? Mar 3:24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. Mar 3:25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. Mar 3:26 And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but his end has come. Mar 3:27 But no one can enter a strong man's house and plunder his property without first tying up the strong man; then indeed the house can be plundered. Mar 3:28 "Truly I tell you, people will be forgiven for their sins and whatever blasphemies they utter; Mar 3:29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit can never have forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin"— Mar 3:30 for they had said, "He has an unclean spirit." Jesus of course had God's Spirit, Jesus performed miracles by the Spirit of God not by the spirit of satan as the scribes said: (He has Beelzebul, and by the ruler of the demons he casts out demons) 2 Likes |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:46pm On Oct 12, 2020 |
Weere you're here again! Abeg i wan go sleep, i no get time for a lunatic this night! johnw47: |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 11:18pm On Oct 12, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: of course you still have no honest reply to truth Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. point out the lunacy you come back now you hear, no cowardly running away again johnw47: 2 Likes |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 12:48am On Oct 13, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:Yes, It is deception when you try to twist something to your advantage. The curse of God lies on the person who tries to pervert his word. I do not remember having any discussion with, you jumped in, uninvited. Yes everyone has the right to his or her religion, therefore I also have the right to debunk your lies which is part of how I worship my God. 2 Likes |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 1:05am On Oct 13, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: mad max, your singing out lies with insane laughter is never ending, of course johnw47: |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 1:19am On Oct 13, 2020 |
livingchrist:Jesus Christ did not lie @ Luke24:39. @ Luke 24:4,23 why were Angels who are spirits called "men" ? @ Luke 24:16,31,36, John 21:4, John 20:13-15, why did the disciples not recognize the resurrected Jesus whom they have known for over 3 good years? @ Luke 24:39, Jesus (the life giving spirit) is flesh and bone for the same reason that angels were called men @ Luke 24:4,23. ( The angels transformed into human form to be visible to the disciples. In the same way, Christ the life giving spirit transformed into flesh and bone to be visible to Thomas and other disciples) 1 Corinthians 15:44-45 "The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.” But the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit. (1 Corinthians 15:47-50, further proof) The Bibleref screenshot is very true to the point. The scriptures is very clear but Pastorpreneurs and Triune idol worshippers don't want the truth.
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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 1:52am On Oct 13, 2020 |
Janosky:good, atleast you agree that Christ didnt lie. Yes truly, angels do sometimes appear as men either in visions or physically to deliver a message and were called men accordingly. @ Luke 24:16,31,36, John 21:4, John 20:13-15, why did the disciples not recognize the resurrected Jesus whom they have known for over 3 good years?Jesus resurrected body had new abilities, among which is ability to be concealed. Even before Jesus death he could literally walk on water, does that mean he was a spirit? No. @ Luke 24:39, Jesus (the life giving spirit) is flesh and bone for the same reason that angels were called men @ Luke 24:4,23. ( The angels transformed into human form to be visible to the disciples. In the same way, Christ the life giving spirit transformed into flesh and bone to be visible to Thomas and other disciples)Jesus was made a quickening spirit not he wasnt a disembodied spirit even before his death he was a quickening Spirit. He very much had a body which is his resurrected body. No angel has ever said they had flesh and bones but Jesus said it. If Jesus just appeared in flesh and bones he could have told his disciples a accordingly. 3 Likes |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 6:03am On Oct 13, 2020 |
Emusan:Okay. Bible verse please. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 6:56am On Oct 13, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:I gave it above! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 6:57am On Oct 13, 2020 |
Emusan:Check again, you didn't. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 7:02am On Oct 13, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:If you said so! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 7:09am On Oct 13, 2020 |
Emusan:Haba! All I did was ask questions i needed answers to. You could have just typed "1 bla bla bla and verse so so so", and I will go check it out myself. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:40am On Oct 13, 2020 |
livingchrist: Glory be to God in the highest! So let the highlighted stand as a basis for judgment between you and i today! I wasn't born a JW, i was born, bread and brought up a Muslim and after thoroughly studying the life and teachings of the man Jesus of Nazareth i don't think there is any human ever who is OK with Jesus' teachings, because his teachings are not just our normal ways of doing things. So i started making research on Christianity as the love of this man Jesus kept growing in my heart. For your information Sir, the one and only group i discovered that's practicing exactly what Jesus laid down is Jehovah's Witnesses. So i never joined them because i found their teachings or doctrines palatable but i dedicated my life as one of them because of the love i have for the man whose teachings they have perfected globally! Jesus taught his followers how to become fishers of men {Matthew 4:19} can you think of any group whose beliefs can disarm a combatant soldier like me and turn me into a peaceful preacher in my neighborhood? Jesus taught his followers never to carry weapons {Matthew 26:52} can you think of any Church that has perfected this in their midst? Jesus taught his followers to love themselves just as he loved them {John 13:34-35} can you think of any Church that the strong bond between adherents is perfect like what everyone is seeing amongst JWs? Jesus taught his followers not to participate in civil unrest (protest) {Matthew 5:40-41} which often produce hooliganism, can you think of any group that's easygoing than JWs? Jesus taught his followers to have the same line of thought regarding code of conduct in fact he prayed fervently to his heavenly father to strengthen his group so that the whole world will recognize them as a group having the same line of thought {John 17:20-23} can you think of any like JWs? Jesus taught his followers to ensue peace at all times, he even told them "i give you my peace" {John 14:27} do you know of any better group that everyone know for PEACE than JWs? So let this stand as the basis for judgment between you and i, what i'm preaching and teaching is the same thing the JWs have taken to all the countries of the world, and in any land where they are allowed to practice their religion people can testify to the LOVE , JOY and PEACE that exists in the midst of JWs! God bless you! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 8:26am On Oct 13, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: habitual liar mad max can you think of any group - church that sing out lies and laughs insanely against truth and are afraid to honestly reply to it like you false jw's are https://www.nairaland.com/6157851/after-jesus-resurrection-body-flesh/11#94882973 Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Mat_7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 8:30am On Oct 13, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:@ bold your case is between you and God not me. Jehovah witness organisation denies Jesus teachings. For your information Sir, the one and only group i discovered that's practicing exactly what Jesus laid down is Jehovah's Witnesses. So i never joined them because i found their teachings or doctrines palatable but i dedicated my life as one of them because of the love i have for the man whose teachings they have perfected globally!there are many cult group who shows unity and love among members, does that mean that they are christ disciples? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:30am On Oct 13, 2020 |
livingchrist:According to Jesus himself, the impact of his teachings will be noticed in the activities and gathering of his true followers {Matthew 5:13-16} not by merely considering what they're teaching! Even Jesus himself was abandoned not by those who don't know him, but by his own disciples because of his teachings! {John 6:64-66} So i've learnt a lesson that i need not contemplate on how or what any religion is teaching, what counts is the impact of such teachings on adherents! James 2:18-26 there are many cult group who shows unity and love among members does that mean that they are christ disciples? Have you been a member of any cult group before? Because i can tell you authoritatively that there is no cult group where LOVE reigns! Surely there will be unity because the spirit controlling them will force all members to conform to it's rules but as for LOVE Haba don't fall my hand Sir, That quality belongs to one and only TRUE God {1John 4:8} and Jesus made it clear that the most important two of all laws we must bear in mind is LOVE for God and for neighbours {Mark 12:29-31} So it is impossible for Satan to exhibit God's quality because whoever is not on God's side can never meet up with that standard! Matthew 7:16-18 God bless you! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 10:25am On Oct 13, 2020 |
livingchrist: According to the Bros livingchrist: 1." Before Jesus death he is NOT a spirit." 2. "Even before Jesus death he was a quickening spirit." The Bros contradict himself, LYING and deceit are serious offense in the laws of God and man. .*3. I will let your Bible expose your False, LYING claim.. . Luke 24:36-39 NKJV Jesus Appears to His Disciples(AH) 36 (AI)Now as they said these things, Jesus Himself stood in the midst of them, and said to them, “Peace to you.” 37 But they were terrified and frightened, and supposed they had seen (AJ)a spirit. 38 And He said to them, “Why are you troubled? And why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. (AK)Handle Me and see, for a (AL)spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have.” Bros livingchrist, according to Luke 24:36-39, did Jesus Christ appear to the disciples in flesh and bones? Bros continue LYING & DECEIVING yourselves
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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 2:03pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: cowardly unable to reply honestly to truth, habitual liar mad max here below is a lunatic: Maximus69: Maximus69: Maximus69: Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:51pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
johnw47:You this madman, who sent you after me nah? I said i don't want to talk to you! Can't you find someone else to chat apart from Max? I searched throughout the whole page there is no comment from you to any other NL and the only person you're running after is Max! Them send you? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 10:42pm On Oct 13, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: cannot stop lying and laughing insanely false jw mad max there are no bigger liars than you on nairaland forums showing up lies is what i like to do finally you have found enough courage to post to me, albeit in lies i have posted in truth to you and you cannot answer those posts you run from truth and then make up lying exuses for running away u poor fearful one Rev_21:8 But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Jozzy4: 4:55am On Oct 14, 2020 |
Emusan:You are not getting it . Anyone having a share in first ressurection cannot be affected by second death . So which ressurection are those affected by second death Sharing in ? And is this particular ressurection only for sinners ?
You already said it's heaven. It's not a bad idea, at least everyone good or bad goes to heaven. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Jozzy4: 5:03am On Oct 14, 2020 |
Emusan:Since your sense refuse to accept it's a case of identity and not his nature like Barristter07 explained. Even giving you instances where angels answered men or are called men. It's all right Yeah a Male human being . With flesh and blood
You are getting dull with each comment. Just see the nonsense he put up there . So some are flesh and blood and others flesh and bones. Damn Quicken mean to make something come alive , So the unbelievers are also quicken since they ressurect . You are dull.
Jesus is a male human being in heaven, and the females will also ressurect as female human being. Gender will also exist in heaven , interesting . Like I said , You are du.ll |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Jozzy4: 5:07am On Oct 14, 2020 |
Emusan: They are not quickened yet they come alive , this is the most silly thing have read today . In short all of them are quickened , then everyone ressurected belong to Christ Mumu , Moreover if the Spirit of the one who raised Jesus from the dead lives in you, the one who raised Christ from the dead will also make your mortal bodies alive through his Spirit who lives in you. Romans 8:11 NET Unbelievers body will have flesh and bones , into whose Kingdom are they ressurected ? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Jozzy4: 5:19am On Oct 14, 2020 |
Ken4Christ: Cover your eyes in shame . They have been asking you to open thread on this hell of thing, why are u scared ? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:29am On Oct 14, 2020 |
It's OK so stop mentioning me, i'm not interested in chatting with you! There are 1,001 JWs on Nairaland and they all believe exactly what i believe so why following me everywhere as if i owe you? johnw47: |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 8:07am On Oct 14, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse: unstable false jw max it's your madness that makes your lies stand out a bit more than the regular false jw |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Ken4Christ: 8:11am On Oct 14, 2020 |
Jozzy4: There is already a thread on it. You have no defence. If hell was ordinary grave, why did Jesus said it was prepared for the devil and his angels? Do you bury spirits in physical graves? Use your sense. If hell was ordinary grave, why did the Bible talk about the sorrows of hell? Is there sorrow in the physical grave? If hell was the ordinary grave, the Bible talks about throwing people into hell. Do you throw people into graves or gently lower them? If hell was ordinary grave, why did Jesus talk about the gates of hell? Do graves have gates. Forget about your useless books full of lies and read your Bible with open mind and you will discover that you have been taught lies. Jehovah Witness just pick Scripture out of context and make it say what it didn't say. Their punishment is certain and the hottest part of hell is reserved for you all. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 8:40am On Oct 14, 2020 |
Mr Ken, all you need is divine wisdom! All your questions have answers that a teenager among the JWs will enlighten you! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 8:44am On Oct 14, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:The impact of the activities of true Christians are clearly seen. The first and the most important activities of a true Christian is that they are in agreement with the word of God, without this all other is nonsense. How do you define love? 1corinthians 13 , one of the qualities of love is that it does not rejoice in error. Jwo does not care for error so there is no true love in your organisation. Have you been a member of any cult group before? Because i can tell you authoritatively that there is no cult group where LOVE reigns!what is love without truth? Jesus came with grace and truth these two Jehovah witness organisation lack so she doesn't have the true love but only the counterfeit one. |
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