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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by olabode89(m): 2:51pm On Oct 18, 2020
eph12:

Fred job is to keep the ball moving. He's not going to give you goals or through balls. What he's going to give you is the energy to keep our midfield on top. I can point to many other midfielders in that role in other top teams. He made a total of 3 shots of which 2 were off targets. Should we look at how many of Bruno's shots were off targets? Before that particular Fred shot, Bruno just hit a shot very high but you didn't say anything. The moment Fred hit his own off target, lamentations started.

Hopefully very soon, you all will appreciate that energy in the midfield. Someone that is available to hassle opponents and try to cut them off. He was dribbled a total of 2 times, Tom once. But you're saying it like he was beaten throughout the game while Tom was winning the balls back. Go and check their ball recovery stats.

I hope OGS puts Fred on the bench till the end of the season so that we can lament over a slow midfield that can't keep up with the opponent pace.

The inability to play line breaking passes by some of our midfielders is why we have difficulty with breaking down teams. True, Fred provides energy in the midfield but he over commits when trying to intersect passes and he usually comes up short thereby needed much time to recover and putting more pressure on the team.

If he does not improve of these aspects of his game he should be phased out of the team.

Stats should never be the main factor when accessing a player, you mentioned that he was dribbled twice. Why dribble him when he will over extend while trying to cut out a pass but fail to do so thereby falling out of position.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adebayo201: 2:53pm On Oct 18, 2020
izzou:


VDB
wink smiley
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:09pm On Oct 18, 2020
olabode89:


The inability to play line breaking passes by some of our midfielders is why we have difficulty with breaking down teams. True, Fred provides energy in the midfield but he over commits when trying to intersect passes and he usually comes up short thereby needed much time to recover and putting more pressure on the team.

If he does not improve of these aspects of his game he should be phased out of the team.

Stats should never be the main factor when accessing a player, you mentioned that he was dribbled twice. Why dribble him when he will over extend while trying to cut out a pass but fail to do so thereby falling out of position.
Lindelof, Tom, Fred, Mata, AWB and Bruno were all dribbled. Is it only Fred that's putting pressure on the team or all these ones too? Same Fred that has more recoveries and successful tackles is who you're saying "over extend and fail to cut out a pass"?

He has been phased out already sef. We should get used to our snail midfield.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:11pm On Oct 18, 2020
eph12:

Pogba is a fine player but he is just not suited for such role. If we need our defenders bombing forward, we will definitely need midfielders that can sit and neutralize any counters

Which role is Jogba suited for? He has been played in every single midfield position, snd with several midfielders, some bought specifically for him, in all he failed to do anything significant. All the midfielders we signed could not unlock Pogba, his mates like Mata, Bruno, Mctoms, Herrera etc excel in different midfield positions. Yesterday Bruno went to the Left wing immediately James went out and pogba and VDB entered and had a hand in all 3 goals scored after that, Mata played from the right too and excelled. But for Jogba we are still looking for the best position for him since 4 years now, he is 27 now and doesn't want to have sense. Even Havertz and Mount that are much younger than him have been played in variety of midfield positions by Lampard and still excel, but for the foo.l we still need to use almighty formula and schrodinger equation to figure out the best position to play him and best players to unlock him with. If not that Ole is another I.diot on his own right, that Virus would have been booted out long ago. V

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:15pm On Oct 18, 2020
eph12:
By the way, looks like something is wrong with Arnold at LFC. We don't see all those spam crosses again. He's taken more defensive role. In fact it was Henderson I was seeing down that wing most of the time

Teams have figured him out, he is poor defensively do teams just load that his position with balls, giving him more defensive work to do, he is now more concerned about his defensive duties now. With VVD getting injured now, he will be on a long thing. TAA has been on my fantasy team, he has consistently disappointed me. I will sell him eventually
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:16pm On Oct 18, 2020
afrodoc2:


PSG use their full backs to push forward and create width. We will most likely be chasing and closing down their players for long periods.

Not a Mata game.

I would play a 3-5-2 and leave Martial and Rashford up front.

Lindelof, Maguire, Shaw as CBs.

Telles, AWB as wingbacks.

Matic, Bruno, VDB in midfield.

Cavani, Greenwood, Pogba, Bailly, Fred, McTom on the bench.


Excellent

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 3:17pm On Oct 18, 2020
Have we signed another player called Fred?

The one I know na busy body, energy kor power nii.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 3:18pm On Oct 18, 2020
GloryIsaac:
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer: “We have many good players and it’s about taking your chances when you do get them. Juan [Mata] has definitely done so." [mu]
OleOUT!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 3:19pm On Oct 18, 2020
patrickmuf:
Nothing is wrong with him, he just had to curb his attacking forays forward because he was becoming a target for opposition wingers worst off, he isn't blessed with pace like Robertson...

Very good. And with VVD now out, Fabinho will occasionally drop to CB, no one will protect his forward forays.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 3:20pm On Oct 18, 2020
[quote author=afrodoc2 post=95060732][/quote] Wow, didn't know it was that bad for him. Oh well, lazy Martial it is then...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 3:34pm On Oct 18, 2020
CapitalCee:


Which role is Jogba suited for? He has been played in every single midfield position, snd with several midfielders, some bought specifically for him, in all he failed to do anything significant. All the midfielders we signed could not unlock Pogba, his mates like Mata, Bruno, Mctoms, Herrera etc excel in different midfield positions. Yesterday Bruno went to the Left wing immediately James went out and pogba and VDB entered and had a hand in all 3 goals scored after that, Mata played from the right too and excelled. But for Jogba we are still looking for the best position for him since 4 years now, he is 27 now and doesn't want to have sense. Even Havertz and Mount that are much younger than him have been played in variety of midfield positions by Lampard and still excel, but for the foo.l we still need to use almighty formula and schrodinger equation to figure out the best position to play him and best players to unlock him with. If not that Ole is another I.diot on his own right, that Virus would have been booted out long ago. V
Pogba will be much better with less defensive work. Two solid CDM behind him will bring out the best in him. He shouldn't be playing from deep unless the team is playing defensive football
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by benji93: 3:38pm On Oct 18, 2020
If you dey serious, cheesy, wetin you wan make i help you with?
odizeey:

Help me fulfill my dreams.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Sinbo(m): 3:45pm On Oct 18, 2020
CapitalCee:


Teams have figured him out, he is poor defensively do teams just load that his position with balls, giving him more defensive work to do, he is now more concerned about his defensive duties now. With VVD getting injured now, he will be on a long thing. TAA has been on my fantasy team, he has consistently disappointed me. I will sell him eventually
Me too
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 4:12pm On Oct 18, 2020
CapitalCee:


Which role is Jogba suited for? He has been played in every single midfield position, snd with several midfielders, some bought specifically for him, in all he failed to do anything significant. All the midfielders we signed could not unlock Pogba, his mates like Mata, Bruno, Mctoms, Herrera etc excel in different midfield positions. Yesterday Bruno went to the Left wing immediately James went out and pogba and VDB entered and had a hand in all 3 goals scored after that, Mata played from the right too and excelled. But for Jogba we are still looking for the best position for him since 4 years now, he is 27 now and doesn't want to have sense. Even Havertz and Mount that are much younger than him have been played in variety of midfield positions by Lampard and still excel, but for the foo.l we still need to use almighty formula and schrodinger equation to figure out the best position to play him and best players to unlock him with. If not that Ole is another I.diot on his own right, that Virus would have been booted out long ago. V
Testify brother! Testify!!! grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SyIvalord: 4:13pm On Oct 18, 2020
CapitalCee:


Which role is Jogba suited for? He has been played in every single midfield position, snd with several midfielders, some bought specifically for him, in all he failed to do anything significant. All the midfielders we signed could not unlock Pogba, his mates like Mata, Bruno, Mctoms, Herrera etc excel in different midfield positions. Yesterday Bruno went to the Left wing immediately James went out and pogba and VDB entered and had a hand in all 3 goals scored after that, Mata played from the right too and excelled. But for Jogba we are still looking for the best position for him since 4 years now, he is 27 now and doesn't want to have sense. Even Havertz and Mount that are much younger than him have been played in variety of midfield positions by Lampard and still excel, but for the foo.l we still need to use almighty formula and schrodinger equation to figure out the best position to play him and best players to unlock him with. If not that Ole is another I.diot on his own right, that Virus would have been booted out long ago. V
This name made me laugh so hard grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:17pm On Oct 18, 2020
CapitalCee:


Teams have figured him out, he is poor defensively do teams just load that his position with balls, giving him more defensive work to do, he is now more concerned about his defensive duties now. With VVD getting injured now, he will be on a long thing. TAA has been on my fantasy team, he has consistently disappointed me. I will sell him eventually
Even his set peices are off. At this point, he doesn't offer much defensively or offensively
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 4:29pm On Oct 18, 2020
benji93:
If you dey serious, cheesy, wetin you wan make i help you with?
Help my dreams.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:30pm On Oct 18, 2020
eph12:

Pogba will be much better with less defensive work. Two solid CDM behind him will bring out the best in him. He shouldn't be playing from deep unless the team is playing defensive football

Pogba was not a 10 as a youth player, he wasn’t a 10 in Juve, he does not play as a 10 for France.

When he was used as a 10 for a short period under JM he struggled to get involved in games and people said he had to be played in a deeper role so that he can influence games.

Now you are saying he should be moved back again to 10?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by timay(m): 4:44pm On Oct 18, 2020
afrodoc2:


Pogba was not a 10 as a youth player, he wasn’t a 10 in Juve, he does not play as a 10 for France.

When he was used as a 10 for a short period under JM he struggled to get involved in games and people said he had to be played in a deeper role so that he can influence games.

Now you are saying he should be moved back again to 10?


They want Pogba that likes slowing games down with excessive dribbles to play 10 grin

A position that you'll have very little space to work with, so you'll need to be fast , think fast, because when the ball gets to you , it's always in the opposing area where you are easily closed down. If Pogba plays Bruno role, Una go curse am las las grin grin

His real role is in the deep or as a CM. It's just that Ole wants quick passing and movements, but Pogba won't give you that and he can't chase ball when we are on the back foot like the way Mctominay, Fred or Bruno dey chase players like thief grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 4:47pm On Oct 18, 2020
Mourinho. !!!

I believe you. Prove them wrong..

Wahala for who nor like u. grin cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:49pm On Oct 18, 2020
Joezinho:
Mourinho. !!!

I believe you. Prove them wrong..

Wahala for who nor like u. grin cheesy
grin

He will surely win a trophy @ Spurs.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 4:50pm On Oct 18, 2020
If we want to spend big on any England player, then it should be Harry Kane
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 4:53pm On Oct 18, 2020
Expert17:

grin

He will surely win a trophy @ Spurs.


Sure bro. grin

Meanwhile the ole in superstars are still defending the clueless one.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:56pm On Oct 18, 2020
afrodoc2:


Pogba was not a 10 as a youth player, he wasn’t a 10 in Juve, he does not play as a 10 for France.

When he was used as a 10 for a short period under JM he struggled to get involved in games and people said he had to be played in a deeper role so that he can influence games.

Now you are saying he should be moved back again to 10?

In Juve, he had Marchiso and Vidal playing beside him in the midfield or Marchiso and Khedira in midfield beside him. In the world cup winning squad, he had Kante and Matuidi. Who was the 10 among these players?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 4:57pm On Oct 18, 2020
Spurs dey vex .
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:02pm On Oct 18, 2020
eph12:

In Juve, he had Marchiso and Vidal playing beside him in the midfield or Marchiso and Khedira in midfield beside him. In the world cup winning squad, he had Kante and Matuidi. Who was the 10 among these players?

You brought up the details so please you can tell me who was 10 in those teams.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 5:04pm On Oct 18, 2020
The clowns here said kane will struggle to score goals in a Mourinho team.. cheesy cheesy

They also said Mou only plays defensive football but Spurs have scored 16 goals in their last 3 matches... cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 5:07pm On Oct 18, 2020
Joezinho:
The clowns here said kane will struggle to score goals in a Mourinho team.. cheesy cheesy

They also said Mou only plays defensive football but Spurs have scored 16 goals in their last 3 matches... cheesy cheesy

KingAlabi, you have a mail cool

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:10pm On Oct 18, 2020
afrodoc2:


You brought up the details so please you can tell me who was 10 in those teams.
You stated that he has never played 10, meanwhile I never mentioned anything about 10. I checked up where he has been most effective and I realized the pattern.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:11pm On Oct 18, 2020
Joezinho:
The clowns here said kane will struggle to score goals in a Mourinho team.. cheesy cheesy

They also said Mou only plays defensive football but Spurs have scored 16 goals in their last 3 matches... cheesy cheesy

grin grin grin

Person wey no know ball

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Joezinho: 5:16pm On Oct 18, 2020
izzou:


KingAlabi, you have a mail cool


Kane has scored 10 goals and made 7 assists in his 8 games this season.

Directly involved in 30 goals in 27 games under Mou.. grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by izzou(m): 5:17pm On Oct 18, 2020
Joezinho:



Kane has scored 10 goals and made 7 assists in his 8 games this season.

Directly involved in 30 goals in 27 games under Mou.. grin grin


That's a good defensive record right there

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