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Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by maisams01(m): 10:51am On Oct 19, 2020 |
you think if it was only LGBT members sars were killing Nigerians will protest? no. Why? because that's how much we despise you people If you want to practice the stupidity you should get out of my country Were this people deaf when they said the protest is for all Nigerians male and female? Why do they want to turn it to themselves Well bad for them, Nigerians are not willing to buy the stupidity and if left for me the legislature should make a law that whoever is caught in the act should be murdered either by hanging or arm squad We won't support this cause. If they can't come out as ladies and gentlemen to protest they should stay at home |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by Farki: 10:54am On Oct 19, 2020 |
Brendaniel: Your first paragraph is quite similar to the information in this study. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2443720/#R23 Maybe you are a gay but don't want to admit it. That's fine you can live your own life your own way. |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by toboy: 10:54am On Oct 19, 2020 |
lexy2014:Calm down. Let me explain what I mean. This Anti- gay bill was signed in 2014 by Goodluck and henceforth it became possible for the government to presecute gays. Everyone agrees this the reality but that does mean it's right. This bill was passed based on religious sentiments and I don't even know why he should have passed that law in the first place. in law when a crime is committed there must be a harm caused to another party as a result of the crime e.g in armed roberry, Yahoo Yahoo, kidnapping, bribery name it another person suffer damages or loss because of the action of perpetrator In the case sexuality, the question is now what crime has two consenting adults committed for doing what ever they're doing in their privacy and which they seem to enjoy. And most importantly does not cause harm or damage to anyone else. Literally, the act of intimacy between consenting adults no matter thier gérer dors not cause anyone to loose thier money not does it home food prices. In law, you cannot just sign sth into law based on religious sentiments and then you go ahead say it's now crime. Take for instance, Imagine Buhari passing a new law tomorrow making wearing hijab a law for all women in Nigeria. As soon the law is passed, it becomes a crime if you don't wear hibaj. But the question will remain what harm has someone done to thier neighbour for not covering thier head as a lady. Everyone cannot live the same in diverse country like Nigeria which is why we have govt and laws but that doesn't give people or govt power to opress others who are different. Just like in the case of sars opresssin youth taking all computer programmer to be Yahoo Yahoo. These are all analysis but I hope it makes sense to you That's why people study law. Human beings are not an easy animal to manage. But injustice is a no no |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by hakeem4(m): 10:59am On Oct 19, 2020 |
Inogettime:well, I’m not a leftist. So I can’t talk about the breastfeeding aspect of this. I’m a science lover. If homosexuality is unnatural like CheGuevara102 claim it is. Then why hasn’t natural selection eradicated it from the gene pool? |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by Germi9: 10:59am On Oct 19, 2020 |
this is a NO NO for me |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by Alfred234(m): 11:00am On Oct 19, 2020 |
Brendaniel:Kindly engage me please. 1. if you say people can be initiated to be gay does that mean people can also be initiated to be straight? And how come we don't hear news of people being initiated to be straight? 2. If being gay is an addiction can we also say that being straight is also an addiction? 3. If being gay causes depression can being straight also cause depression? 4. Straight people have already made gay people look inferior but they don't want gay people to do the same in future because people don't care about oppression when they are the ones doing it but get mad when they are the ones being oppressed. 5. Most humans are oppressive and it's not subjected to gay people alone. Would you agree? 6. There are a lot of conspiracy about this tho so we can't be so sure. Regardless anybody that doesn't have protected sex can catch an infection. |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by toboy: 11:01am On Oct 19, 2020 |
maisams01:This a very arrogant comment. Point of correction, Nigeria is NOT your country. Nigeria does not belong to any single man alone. Plus, You too can leave Nigeria, and go live somewhere else. |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by Sarita01(f): 11:02am On Oct 19, 2020 |
Farki:It's like you don't even know the meaning of that adage.Whatever points you have made is just pure hatred on those people's part,when in Rome behave like the Romans is just a saying that means when you're in a place with different views and different laws you have to adjust,adapt and follow all the rules and regulations of that society. Anybody who harasses you even after being a law-abiding citizen is just doing that out of hatred,greed and wickedness. Nigeria does not acknowledge the lgbtq right,it's a felony in Nigeria and someone is there breaking the law and you want us to applaud the person. Just imagine you going to america and refusing to follow their rules,then when asked you'll tell them that it's not the same with my country,just watch if your ass isn't sent to jail. If the sars operatives are brutalizing the gay people cos they're gay then they're right but if they're harassing them cos they're just rich youths then the sars officers are very wrong. Like I said before sars officers shouldn't accept bribe from queer folks they should be procecuted to the full extent of the law 1 Like |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by maisams01(m): 11:04am On Oct 19, 2020 |
toboy:oga stop defending the undefendable laws are made for people and not the other way round Buhari cannot impose wearing of hijab because he knows Nigeria is a multi religious country so your example doesn't make sense The people who made law are Representatives of the people so they carry the interest of the people whenever they try to make any law that doesn't please the people, we protest But was there any resistance when LGBT was criminalized? no why? because Nigerians love it that way so causing harm or not LGBT is a crime period. I know you will go any length to defend your unwholesome act but unfortunately for you LGBT will forever be a crime in Nigeria 2 Likes |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by maisams01(m): 11:08am On Oct 19, 2020 |
toboy:Nigeria belong to every well meaning Nigerian and all LGBT's are criminals and will be prosecuted there is nothing like arrogance here |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by Brendaniel: 11:13am On Oct 19, 2020 |
Farki: Bro I'm not gay, I'm highly straight, I'm just trying to let people know that there are factors that make or can make people become gay, Nobody is actually born gay, there is usually a trigger in the process to become gay, the funny part here is, there are gays who don't even know what triggered theirs and it's not that the gay stuff has been in them from birth, from my findings I have found out that every human has a feminine and a masculine side of personality, and once certain conditions pattern the mind of that person to trigger one these personalities to get way above or below normal then homosexuality comes in, that's one aspect, the second aspect is the issue of sexual satisfaction, some gays don't go through the first stage, they derive a higher sexual satisfaction through homosexuality and this is where addiction comes in, at this stage it is higher than drug, that if they do not have sex with same sex they cannot feel sexual satisfaction.... 1 Like |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by Dominatrix(f): 11:13am On Oct 19, 2020 |
sbaks: Comprehension problems of the highest order. Well said! 1 Like |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by toboy: 11:14am On Oct 19, 2020 |
maisams01:I am NOT talking about legalization though. InCheck the difference between legalization and decriminalization. Decriminalization is removing sth from crime list so that you can't keep prosecuting it or opresssing others unjustly. For instance in casees where Marijuana is decriminalized so that people who were once arrested and jailed for it can be liberated. |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by Alfred234(m): 11:16am On Oct 19, 2020 |
maisams01:It's funny how you ask people to leave your country as if your country was anything to write home about in the first place. Jokes on you tho. |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by maisams01(m): 11:17am On Oct 19, 2020 |
Alfred234:since it is nothing to write about why don't you just leave 1 Like |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by maisams01(m): 11:20am On Oct 19, 2020 |
toboy:all the same, it won't be legalized nor decriminalized, every LGBT will remain a criminal and will be prosecuted, there is nothing like unjustly here, it is not opression if you want to practice it leave the country. simple 1 Like |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by lexy2014: 11:21am On Oct 19, 2020 |
toboy: According to u: "in law when a crime is committed there must be a harm caused to another party as a result of the crime". That is very untrue. A crime is an act that goes against d laws of d land whether harm is caused to another party or not. D arguments u put forth are watery and have always been d stale defense put up by gay apologists. In many countries of d world, polygamy is a criminal offence. What harm does polygamy cause to anyone if those involved are consenting adults? So ur assertion that because homosexuality is consensual, it exempts it from being a crime is wrong. What constitutes crime is relative as every society has it's criteria for deciding what is and what isn't a crime. If d govt of nigeria under d then president Jonathan used religion, then so be it. In d words of Uhuru Kenyatta, such laws are a reflection of d prevailing culture of d people of that society. So as far religious tenets and natural laws are concerned, homosexuality is an aberration irrespective of consent. Even if u remove religion from d mix, u still can't justify homosexuality. Still talking about what constitutes crime or not, like I said it's all a function of how society views such acts& if there are laws criminalising them. If u look at d drug trade, in d real sense, is it a crime or just a business transaction with suppliers supplying products to willing (consensual) buyers? But yet d trade is deemed illegal. So my dear, what constitutes law and crime goes beyond your sentiments about what u refer to as acts performed by 2 consenting adults. Don't try to hide under endsars campaign to give credibility to homosexuality. E no work 2 Likes |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by Alfred234(m): 11:21am On Oct 19, 2020 |
maisams01:I'm leaving soon tho but i can't say the same for you ![]() |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by Inogettime: 11:24am On Oct 19, 2020 |
hakeem4: Well,it is actually factual that science has proven otherwise that homosexuality is not has believed unnatural with the discovery that no one is born gay or straight,it will be difficult for someone whose Homophobia is based on cultural or social conditioning, Religious teaching and moral upbringing to suddenly subscribe to its naturalness because 'science says so'....so it might and will take time for Africans even many western folks to 'not' hate homosexuals... and they should please quit shoving it down people's throat and keep it to themselves... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by maisams01(m): 11:26am On Oct 19, 2020 |
Alfred234:goodbye |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by toboy: 11:28am On Oct 19, 2020 |
maisams01:I like your use of the word impose in the case of hijab however it's clear you fail to see how the gay bill is being imposed on queer people. I hope you live forever to witness the change. |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by maisams01(m): 11:30am On Oct 19, 2020 |
toboy:don't compare hijab and Quee ahbi wetin you call yourselves if you think the gay bill is imposed on you guys then I dare you to protest against it let's see the consequences |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by toboy: 11:38am On Oct 19, 2020 |
Brendaniel:I don't know which field you currently work in but I have a fell you should could excell in gender and diversity studies ![]() |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by Alfred234(m): 11:38am On Oct 19, 2020 |
lexy2014:Did anybody ask nature about it's laws and it said it's against homosexuality? If nature was indeed against it why hasn't nature eradicated homosexuality by itself? You talked about polygamy being illegal in some countries and that's true but are polygamists being persecuted in those countries for identifying as polygamist without trying to have multiple marriages? The answer is no |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by americanigga(m): 11:46am On Oct 19, 2020 |
[quote author=Obamaofusa post=95077800] LGBT OR WHATEVER YOU CALL YOURSELVES SHOULD KNOW THAT THEY ARE AGAINST GOD.We beg you all to leave and allow sane people to protest. NO TO LGBGTQ...LGBGTQ.....what arant balderdash!!!!![/quote just the way you people were killing twins, saying they were evil, until Mary Slessor came. Today we are all enjoing twins. I hope u will not look back and begin to beg God to forgive u for discriminating |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by Starzo: 11:49am On Oct 19, 2020 |
Shut up...this is not a gay movement Stop trying to hijack this Noble movement. It won't work for u We move!... Alfred234: 1 Like |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by lexy2014: 11:53am On Oct 19, 2020 |
Alfred234: U sound like pot calling kettle black. because u are full of emotions, u ended up shooting urself in d foot. If u are asking who asked me about nature, d question u should ask urself is who was talking to u? Was I talking to u in d first place? U see how u have ridicled urself? With all u said u weren't able to negate one thing I said as not being d truth. If u can pls go ahead& negate what I said. What is d persecution u are talking about? Can u pls tell me why d sexual organ of a woman consists of an opening with a pathway leading into d womb? Can u also tell me y the sexual organ of a man has d shape and size of d pathway in a woman's sex organ and why does it fit in perfectly into that pathway? Can u use a key to open key? Can u use a padlock to open a padlock? Can u use a car fuel tank to fill a car fuel tank or do u use a nozzle? 3 Likes |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by Alfred234(m): 11:59am On Oct 19, 2020 |
Starzo:Please can you point out where i stated that it has become a gay movement? Stop letting hate cloud your judgement, we are fighting against oppression but you lots are here trying to oppress people. How are you different from the police we are trying to fight against now? Na wa |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by Starzo: 12:10pm On Oct 19, 2020 |
Your agenda will not work That how u do. You put urself in the midst of people's struggles then slowly use it propagate ur gay agenda. But it won't work with us Carry ur gay protest comot We have more pressing issues We don't want gays here Alfred234: 1 Like |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by toboy: 12:14pm On Oct 19, 2020 |
lexy2014: Learned colleague, you got a great point. Yes, the laws of the land is important, meself I am a big supporter of some the laws of land. However you and know we live in a globalization age where people's interect increasingly with one another. Very few things has remained static in those laws land cuz the our society is dynamic and ever changing. If we based all logic for the laws on the laws the land then we'll be stuck. Really good point on drugs. Again, if you mean hard drugs, these are substance that have very powerful effect on the human body and can kill instantly in cases of overdose. That why governments and approved pharmaceutical companies are license to for the purchase. So in essence drugs are traded but not at consumer levels to avoid dangerous proliferation that again will kill people. I light of this consent is not a validating factor ![]() Also one other side of it that Anti-money laundering is done using drugs as the commodity of exchange. Culture is not constant oo. Societies are dynamic and evolve from time to time. If we want to do culture, then we should be in the forest hunting, our women going bare breasted, or killing twins as evil. Those who wish to change will be left behind. I have learned from your points tho. |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by HuntSon(m): 12:16pm On Oct 19, 2020 |
wink2015: So you're saying it's okay for Bobrisky to suffer police brutality because he's Bobrisky? |
Re: EndSARS: We Are Also Fighting For LGBGTQ+ Community - Feminist Coalition by HuntSon(m): 12:17pm On Oct 19, 2020 |
Samidoh: That's what he's indirectly implying |
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