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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 1:26pm On Oct 22, 2020
basilico:


A blanket statement. Before Covid19 lockdowns what was the growth in debt.
While at it, subtract the extra 2.5% interest rate added by Feds. A sample calculation shows that an increase by 2% of 20Trillion yields a massive 200B in debt.
Let's give Trump a hypothetical 0% interest rate for comparative purposes. How much would the debt grow?
Next shutdown all business that creates wealth and livelihoods to 330m people .Pay business an incentive to retain n pay their employees working using Zoom or Hangouts or Teams.
The debt grows.


Sir I am not blaming trump for debts, you brought it. And I am pointing it to you that debts grow during or after a recession, watch how the debt climbs for the next 10 years. Since we are blaming Obama for debts, why shouldn't we blame trump? Rubbish

And what's your plane to pay debts off when taxes are lower?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:27pm On Oct 22, 2020
feedthenation:


The national debt just barreled past $23 trillion. Here's how Trump's $3 trillion portion compares to Obama, Bush, and Clinton.

https://www.businessinsider.com/national-debt-deficit-trump-how-it-compares-obama-bush-clinton-2019-11?r=US&IR=T


The national debt of the United States barreled past $23 trillion on November 1, according to data from the Treasury Department. It marked the most money the federal government has owed and is a result of a growing budget deficit, which neared $1 trillion in the last fiscal year.

To put that in perspective, the $23 trillion figure is roughly equal to the economies of China, Japan, and Germany combined, according to the Peterson Foundation, an organization advocating deficit reduction.

Yet three years into a norm-shattering presidency, Donald Trump's spending measures up similarly with that of his predecessors.

He's in line with past Republican presidents like George W. Bush, who racked up deficits with boosts in military spending and a wave of tax cuts. Trump has added about $3 trillion to the national debt so far during his nearly three years in office, despite his pledge to wipe it out in eight years and his campaigning on being "the king of debt."


--- And this was before the covid pandemic ---

Subtract the 3T from corona virus package reliefs, one of which the Dems scuttled yesterday.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:37pm On Oct 22, 2020
Timiofak:


Sir I am not blaming trump for debts, you brought it. And I am pointing it to you that debts grow during it after a recession, watch how the debt climbs for the next 10 years. Since we are blaming Obama for debts, why shouldn't we blame trump? Rubbish

And what's your plane to pay debts off when taxes are lower?

We could tax billionaires more. They will maintain an office to look American, but will be operating offshore in tax Havens.
Another way, give the masses a sense of pride in buying locally produced goods.
A dentist charges an arm and a leg for a simple tooth extraction, in return the house mover charges him an arm and a leg to move him to the suburbs.
That way money goes around, the fittest survive, the losers whine all day from Mom's basement about how life is not fair to them armed with a degree in advanced study of border wall butterfly migration curtailment.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Alexandre7: 1:39pm On Oct 22, 2020
grin grin grin

Done & Dusted

#BidenForPresident2020

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 1:41pm On Oct 22, 2020
basilico:


Obama grew the national debt from 9m to 19m in 8 lousy years. He grew more debt than the last 43 presidents before him all combined.
And the Feds kept interest rates at 0% for all his time as the destroyer in chief.
Under Trump Feds have raised interest rates how many times.

Pisses me off when lack of adequate knowledge makes clown heap praise on a snake oil salesmen.
Liar. And the deficit has even gotten worst under Trump as at 2020.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SniperAssassin: 1:43pm On Oct 22, 2020
basilico:


Subtract the 3T from corona virus package reliefs, one of which the Dems scuttled yesterday.
The said 3 Trillion was back in 2019. Before the pandemic.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 1:44pm On Oct 22, 2020
Alexandre7:
grin grin grin

Done & Dusted

#BidenForPresident2020
God bless you sir for voting Biden. Hopefully, the umudike republicans can show us who they voted grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 1:45pm On Oct 22, 2020
basilico:


Subtract the 3T from corona virus package reliefs, one of which the Dems scuttled yesterday.

The report from the Business Insider was done in November 2019, 3 months before the covid-19 pandemic on U.S. soil and 6 months before the stimulus corona relief package was passed

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:46pm On Oct 22, 2020
salford1:

Liar. And the deficit has even gotten worst under Trump as at 2020.
Factor in 2.5% interest rate.
Trump has added 3T in 4 years. This year the Covid19 relief cash takes a huge chunk of the 3T.
Do you have to lie in plain sight?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:49pm On Oct 22, 2020
SniperAssassin:
The said 3 Trillion was back in 2019. Before the pandemic.
Obama had a relief bill for quote "shovel ready jobs".

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 1:51pm On Oct 22, 2020

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 1:51pm On Oct 22, 2020
For those who will have access to CBS News on Sunday for the 60 minutes interview with Donald Trump


https://twitter.com/i/status/1319234940249190400
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:59pm On Oct 22, 2020
feedthenation:
For those who will have access to CBS News on Sunday for the 60 minutes interview with Donald Trump


https://twitter.com/i/status/1319234940249190400

See how media plays you Trump invited her for an interview. She was biased. Trump walked away after 45 minutes.
He will release the biased interview before it airs.
Sorry to say don't get a boner hoping the hit piece will reveal anything . Just antiTrump bias from a leftist reporter.

We like Trump because he does not suffer fools. Here is a 1990 video of him telling a CNN to get lost. Returns the MiC to the producer and tells him he has better things to do.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI2eFnPcFLM

Feedthenation.This is why we like Trump.Says what he means Does what he means.
He has published the video of him where he walked out after 45 minutes after realizing she is just another Dem activist masquerading as journalist

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 2:00pm On Oct 22, 2020
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 2:03pm On Oct 22, 2020
basilico:


We could tax billionaires more. They will maintain an office to look American, but will be operating offshore in tax Havens.
Another way, give the masses a sense of pride in buying locally produced goods.
A dentist charges an arm and a leg for a simple tooth extraction, in return the house mover charges him an arm and a leg to move him to the suburbs.
That way money goes around, the fittest survive, the losers whine all day from Mom's basement about how life is not fair to them armed with a degree in advanced study of border wall butterfly migration curtailment.

That's why you don't tax only billionaires, you tax everyone making bars, 18% of Americans are millionaires.

About the dentists and doctors, if there was centralised medicals, everyone would not need those ridiculous premiums that insurance companies collect, over time you won't notice that you are literally paying more taxes, but get more cash at hand and credit, without plunging into depression. But if you lower taxes, nothing is going to go around, millionaires are going to hurdle all the cuts they get to the Bahamas, and you would still pay premiums for health insurance,

And made in America goods would naturally be expensive, first of all, labour is too expensive in America, and Republicans don't want to make a path for outsourcing skilled labour, they call it opening borders. Costs would increase, if things were made in America, do you think a white man Would toil the feed the way a Mexican does and collect the same cash? In china they can pay a wage to workers for as lows as $5 per day, and the workers would actually be very grateful, The minimum wage in America is around $8 per hour. That way thing gets expensive drastically.

The way trump is forcing companies to pull out from China Is totally the wrong way, he is meant Make an agreement with china, that is the best way to handle it, Trump is currently having issues with various allies and he goes ahead to battle china, the second-biggest economy!!!, come on. If producers are forced out of China, they would rather go to Vietnam, Indonesia or even Africa than America, because of labor cost.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 2:12pm On Oct 22, 2020

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 2:16pm On Oct 22, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
Why don't you go back to your religion section and stop making a foool of yourself.
What the heck do you know about America from your cubicle spouting garbage as usual.

For the second time you are saying this because you don't like the truth you see here. The time I was on religious section they haven't given birth to you.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 2:21pm On Oct 22, 2020

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 2:21pm On Oct 22, 2020
Timiofak:


That's why you don't tax only billionaires, you tax everyone making bars, 18% of Americans are millionaires.

About the dentists and doctors, if there was centralised medicals, everyone would not need those ridiculous premiums that insurance companies collect, over time you won't notice that you are literally paying more taxes, but get more cash at hand and credit, without plunging into depression. But if you lower taxes, nothing is going to go around, millionaires are going to hurdle all the cuts they get to the Bahamas, and you would still pay premiums for health insurance,

And made in America goods would naturally be expensive, first of all, labour is too expensive in America, and Republicans don't want to make a path for outsourcing skilled labour, they call it opening borders. Costs would increase, if things were made in America, do you think a white man Would toil the feed the way a Mexican does and collect the same cash? In china they can pay a wage to workers for as lows as $5 per day, and the workers would actually be very grateful, The minimum wage in America is around $8 per hour. That way thing gets expensive drastically.

The way trump is forcing companies to pull out from China Is totally the wrong way, he is meant Make an agreement with china, that is the best way to handle it, Trump is currently having issues with various allies and he goes ahead to battle china, the second-biggest economy!!!, come on. If producers are forced out of China, they would rather go to Vietnam, Indonesia or even Africa than America, because of labor cost.

I gave an example of a man eat man society. Where you price your goods/services at a balance because you ain't the only one charging .
An equilibrium.
Trump has the idea of making the market competitive. Why is the second largest economy termed as a developing nation by WTO , this attracting lower import rates while being the worlds factory It's because the likes of Biden allowed that to happen.
When factories shutter, a lot of livelihoods become dependent Democrats say they care, so they subsidize the welfare society. I think societal and nation state preference according to the Gospel by Trump is the right way. forward in an ever competitive economy
You can't open a company in China without 50% local investors, who as soon they learn your secrets move a block down the street and copycat your goods Havin spent zero on research the competitor will out price you.
As regards to coming to an agreement with China, that's not the way You don't agree with a bully who wants to replace you.You play hard, most bullies are ebullient on the outside, but their hearts are not made of stone Play hard, the bullies will kowtow.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 2:25pm On Oct 22, 2020
Timiofak:


Sir I am not blaming trump for debts, you brought it. And I am pointing it to you that debts grow during or after a recession, watch how the debt climbs for the next 10 years. Since we are blaming Obama for debts, why shouldn't we blame trump? Rubbish

And what's your plane to pay debts off when taxes are lower?

How come Obama did not pay it off when tax was high? In fact Obama is the deficit king

Obama: Jan. 21, 2009, debt was $10,625,053,544,309.79. Feb. 13, 2012, debt was $15,355,198,335,393.66. That was an increase of $4,730,144,791,083.87.

Trump: Jan. 23, 2017, debt was $19,949,678,366,998.00. Feb 13, 2020, debt was $23,305,297,151,133.97. That was an increase of $3,355,618,784,135.97.

So for those three-year periods, Obama created $1,374,526,006,947.9‬0 more debt than Trump has. These are the real facts.

NUMBERS DON'T LIE!!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 2:27pm On Oct 22, 2020
benalvino2:


How come Obama did not pay it off when it was high? In fact Obama is the deficit king

Obama: Jan. 21, 2009, debt was $10,625,053,544,309.79. Feb. 13, 2012, debt was $15,355,198,335,393.66. That was an increase of $4,730,144,791,083.87.

Trump: Jan. 23, 2017, debt was $19,949,678,366,998.00. Feb 13, 2020, debt was $23,305,297,151,133.97. That was an increase of $3,355,618,784,135.97.

So for those three-year periods, Obama created $1,374,526,006,947.9‬0 more debt than Trump has. These are the real facts.

NUMBERS DON'T LIE!!

And the Feds held interest rates at 0% for 7.9 years of his Obamination.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:28pm On Oct 22, 2020
benalvino2:


For the second time you are saying this because you don't like the truth you see here. The time I was on religious section they haven't given birth to you.
Look at this jungle foool. Typical brainstem trump a@s licker. You think you are talking to one of your fellow unpaid hungry cultist. Why don't you go help your compatriots in EndSars protests instead of wasting your life away about a racist pig that doesn't want your kind in his America. Typical brainstem Trump servile dog.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:31pm On Oct 22, 2020
The unpaid hungry Coons and Cultists are going nuts knowing the fat smelly pig they worship will lose on Nov 3rd. Not single one of these born losers can vote for their cult leader and they think by buying their N200 data, they are political experts in a country they only know in their dreams. No wonder success is far from them. Priorities misplaced.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 2:35pm On Oct 22, 2020
basilico:


And the Feds held interest rates at 0% for 7.9 years of his Obamination.
Is there anything they know other than orange man bad?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:39pm On Oct 22, 2020
CoronaVirusRelo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UHa1r6_sQ4
Jason Miller is a sleazebag just like Trump. Trump sure knows how to attract the bottom dwelling scums in America. He lied to Americans that he wants to drain the swamp not knowing that he's the alligator at the bottom of the swamp. In 13 days, the worst President in American History and one of God's worst creatures on Earth will be out of our National discuss and we will start rebuilding and reuniting our beautiful Nation comes Jan 20 when Number 45, President Joe Biden is sworn in.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 2:39pm On Oct 22, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
Look at this jungle foool. Typical brainstem trump a@s licker. You think you are talking to one of your fellow unpaid hungry cultist. Why don't you go help your compatriots in EndSars protests instead of wasting your life away about a racist pig that doesn't want your kind in his America. Typical brainstem Trump servile dog.

This one is having an emotional breakdown because truth just hit him in the nuts. cheesy I can tweet #endsars that's me working to end Sars. So let me be here two and upset your with facts. I can do two things at once.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:41pm On Oct 22, 2020
benalvino2:

Is there anything they know other than orange man bad?
How will you know servile dog. We are Americans who knew of him when you were a toddler. I won't argue with you with Buhari and you arguing with people like me show your mental capacity is equivalent of a second grader in America and apology to second grader. It's easy for your and your Umudike brothers spouting garbage about a country you have no clue about.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 2:44pm On Oct 22, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
How will you know servile dog. We are Americans who knew of him when you were a toddler. I won't argue with you with Buhari and you arguing with people like me show your mental capacity is equivalent of a second grader in America and apology to second grader. It's easy for your and your Umudike brothers spouting garbage about a country you have no clue about.
You are still epileptic... You haven't made anything sense since you started responding to me. Only to cry go back to religious section. Trump is your president and will become your president for four more years. Deal with it.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 2:47pm On Oct 22, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
Jason Miller is a sleazebag just like Trump. Trump sure knows how to attract the bottom dwelling scums in America. He lied to Americans that he wants to drain the swamp not knowing that he's the alligator at the bottom of the swamp. In 13 days, the worst President in American History and one of God's worst creatures on Earth will be out of our National discuss and we will start rebuilding and reuniting our beautiful Nation comes Jan 20 when Number 45, President Joe Biden is sworn in.

Did he prevent your siblings from coming over Your absolute hatred as defined by psychologists knows no bounds. No coherent factual statement you have ever made apart from living in Chicago.
We see shrinks too it's not a taboo. Get one too.Take your meds too, don't snort crack as a way to forget your tribulations.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 2:48pm On Oct 22, 2020
benalvino2:


This one is having an emotional breakdown because truth just hit him in the nuts. cheesy I can tweet #endsars that's me working to end Sars. So let me be here two and upset your with facts. I can do two things at once.
Have been voting in the Fruited Plains since I was 18 years old and I don't have to take a little bag of rice and N1.000 to vote. In fact, I did last Thursday in my precinct. Tell me one thing your brainless Trump did to your advantage. Not one thing you and the other servile dogs got from him. Not even a US Visa. Obixcel, Stanech, Anduku are veterans here and I have been challenging them for almost 4 years that they can't get a Visa under the regime of the racist Trump and they have proved me right talk less of a bottom dwelling rookie like you. Keep wasting your food money on Trump that doesn't give a fvck about your black rear in a Continent he called shiithole. People like you are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 2:50pm On Oct 22, 2020
Alexandre7:
grin grin grin

Done & Dusted

#BidenForPresident2020
God bless you.

Return immediately thank you for voting earlycheesy

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 2:51pm On Oct 22, 2020
benalvino2:


How come Obama did not pay it off when tax was high? In fact Obama is the deficit king

Obama: Jan. 21, 2009, debt was $10,625,053,544,309.79. Feb. 13, 2012, debt was $15,355,198,335,393.66. That was an increase of $4,730,144,791,083.87.

Trump: Jan. 23, 2017, debt was $19,949,678,366,998.00. Feb 13, 2020, debt was $23,305,297,151,133.97. That was an increase of $3,355,618,784,135.97.

So for those three-year periods, Obama created $1,374,526,006,947.9‬0 more debt than Trump has. These are the real facts.

NUMBERS DON'T LIE!!

And automatically you forgot that there was a recession!!!! Sir what are you talking about. There was bailout for the auto industry, that's literally millions of jobs, there was bailout for banks And small businesses. Or was there a recession in 2017? Or 18?

just cut the BS

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