GoodFaith:


I am a believe of dreams and hope
Sorry we will not live to see it
"I still have a dream that one day, we all will be able to enjoy our homes burglary proof free.. "

I did one building for a client few yrs ago and up till now NO burglar bars there.
Although it’s in village

rotecch77:



My brother don’t get it wrong, a bed of floor tiles is more than 25mm thickness as you suggested.
Some buildings floor level are not the same, in most cases the floor thickness for tiles do comes btw 70-100mm thickness.

This similar question came up some pages back and i did analysis about it .

The Op and others it’s VERY possible to use btw 40-65 bags of cement for 3bedrooms flats.

Factors to consider are
- Rooms size.
- Floor level
- Toilet wall (plum level)
- size of the Toilets and kitchen
- wall area to tiled( some 1/2 wall some full wall
-level of workmanship.

Let’s do small arithmetic (3bedrooms standard)

-3-4 toilets
- dining
-kitchen
-store
-lobby

Medium Toilet wall and floor 3 bags *4=12bags
Kitchen wall and floor= 6 bags
Dining floor =4bags
Lobbies (inner)=6bags
Store -2 bags
Sitting room -5bags
Rooms 3*3=9 bags
Verander -4bags

Total bags =48bags

Same way for duplex btw 80-100 bags
That is why I do ask my client buy your cement in batches and see how it’s been used.

Any way we can use 300 bags of cement I am a "contractor"

Thank you for your contribution.

There is a reason I specify the thickness of bedding to be 25mm in my previous post. Of course, I know that it could be more than that in some other circumstances. Mostly in my standard Bill of Quantities, I do 42mm. I've seen lots of tilers do far less than that, and even doing just 25mm, hence my definite description.

In my previous post, I only make cognizance of floor tiles and didn't factor in wall tiles for a reason.

rotecch77:



My brother don’t get it wrong, a bed of floor tiles is more than 25mm thickness as you suggested.
Some buildings floor level are not the same, in most cases the floor thickness for tiles do comes btw 70-100mm thickness.

This similar question came up some pages back and i did analysis about it .

The Op and others it’s VERY possible to use btw 40-65 bags of cement for 3bedrooms flats.

Factors to consider are
- Rooms size.
- Floor level
- Toilet wall (plum level)
- size of the Toilets and kitchen
- wall area to tiled( some 1/2 wall some full wall
-level of workmanship.

Let’s do small arithmetic (3bedrooms standard)

-3-4 toilets
- dining
-kitchen
-store
-lobby

Medium Toilet wall and floor 3 bags *4=12bags
Kitchen wall and floor= 6 bags
Dining floor =4bags
Lobbies (inner)=6bags
Store -2 bags
Sitting room -5bags
Rooms 3*3=9 bags
Verander -4bags

Total bags =48bags

Same way for duplex btw 80-100 bags
That is why I do ask my client buy your cement in batches and see how it’s been used.

rotecch77:


I did one building for a client few yrs ago and up till now NO burglar bars there.
Although it’s in village

OK
Security prevention and protection is all about individuals,
What is the cost you willing to pay to achieve that objective
Every security protection and prevention can be compromise
Having protection and prevention in place is to make you work for it
discourage you to look for easy target
From logical to physical security the goal and objective is to discourage intrudes by having preventive difficulties' in place

QSFemi:
Thank you for your contribution.

There is a reason I specify the thickness of bedding to be 25mm in my previous post. Of course, I know that it could be more than that in some other circumstances. Mostly in my standard Bill of Quantities, I do 42mm. I've seen lots of tilers do far less than that, and even doing just 25mm, hence my definite description.

In my previous post, I only make cognizance of floor tiles and didn't factor in wall tiles for a reason.

Ok I get you right now, don’t mind those tilers that used to do 25mm, it’s too light , there will be a crack on it within shortest period of time.
Unless if the floor required such thickness( may be the door level issue arises) if such happens then their is a special GUM to use for such area or a special mixed cement ratio in such situation.

Lastly the total sqm of standard 3 bedrooms tiles both walls and floors is btw 300-500meters

GoodFaith:

OK
Security prevention and protection is all about individuals,
What is the cost you willing to pay to achieve that objective
Every security protection and prevention can be compromise
Having protection and prevention in place is to make you work for it
discourage you to look for easy target
From logical to physical security the goal and objector is to discourage intrudes by having preventive difficulties' in place

You are very correct sir.
Actually the client didn’t budget for such at the time we build the building.
May be bcs the level of crime in the area is low bcs I can see that 70pec of the building in the town doesn’t have burglar bars.

rotecch77:


Ok I get you right now, don’t mind those tilers that used to do 25mm, it’s too light , there will be a crack on it within shortest period of time.
Unless if the floor required such thickness( may be the door level issue arises) if such happens then their is a special GUM to use for such area or a special mixed cement ratio in such situation.

Lastly the total sqm of standard 3 bedrooms tiles both walls and floors is btw 300-500meters

Did you say three bedroom total floor "btw 300-500meters "
What will be the total floor of two flats?

GoodFaith:


Did you say three bedroom total floor "btw 300-500meters "
What will be the total floor of two flats?

Both wall and floor, I stated it there.
More so for 2 flats of 3bdrms prepare bye 600-100sqm
Generally all depends on the size of your building and the area to be tiled.

I hope y'all are safe wherever you are.

Nnewi is one place to avoid now. Enjoy yourself

michlins:
I hope y'all are safe wherever you are.

Nnewi is one place to avoid now. Enjoy yourself

We go dey alright las las.

n3xt:


We go dey alright las las.

amen. We will rise like a phoenix

This so call protest
Damaging government properties
Who are going to benefit from this damaged government properties?
People in power their family and friends will get the contract to re build
You just made the people you are protecting against richer

Hello All,
Hope we are all safe!
Pls, do I need to do parapet dressing before roofing the house? My bricklayer just brought this to my notice after wood work of the roofing is done.

Omonjoe:
Hello All,
Hope we are all safe!
Pls, do I need to do parapet dressing before roofing the house? My bricklayer just brought this to my notice after wood work of the roofing is done.

I noticed Spyder880 does roofing before parapet dressing in one of his project, the guy is an experienced builder, if he followed that sequence then it could be a good idea.

Hello house.
Pls I have a little challenge, the engineer did something like a step here,
We will have to climb up and down from the dining to the kitchen and from the dining to the rooms lobby. I told him to make everything flat after I discovered I won't like that idea.
We are already done with the dpc. Pls what is the cost effective way to do the filling to make all levels flat, thanks

Omonjoe:
Hello All,
Hope we are all safe!
Pls, do I need to do parapet dressing before roofing the house? My bricklayer just brought this to my notice after wood work of the roofing is done.

No, not true. You can do it when you are doing plastering of the house. Roof your house first.

Hajji M.

xzibukz:
Hello house.
Pls I have a little challenge, the engineer did something like a step here,
We will have to climb up and down from the dining to the kitchen and from the dining to the rooms lobby. I told him to make everything flat after I discovered I won't like that idea.
We are already done with the dpc. Pls what is the cost effective way to do the filling to make all levels flat, thanks

Here we go again with client - Contractor miscommunication..

This issue have been litigated here several times, I could bet we have encountered similar issues with people we know outside of nairaland.

Please I beg everyone, client please do your research, ask questions and tell your Contractors exactly what you want.

Contractors please listen to your client, make suggestions if you may but at the end of the day, oga na master!! This is the clients project not yours.

As for the cost effective way to remedy this? O boy, I would think the cost effective way will be to leave it alone as it is now and maybe invest in some lighting around the "step" to lighting the place up at night to prevent an accident.

I dislike this myself, in my first build engineer did the same thing.

I was like, hian.., wetin dey occur? are you ... are you normal?? Thats was not the plan...

after the brawl I let it be simply because it was a commercial house and although I dislike it, some people might like it.. someone have been living in that unit for years now and no complaints.. so at the end, the situation did sort itself out..

Abolarin91:
Burglary proof makes house look like prison, having a secure fence is enough. That is what we do at Bolbaz home tech.

My brother if you have experienced trauma + high blood pressure combined you will love burglary proof and even go to the extend of have a bullet proof vest for pijamas.

Thank you. The bricklayer almost scattered my plans and he's charging 150k for labour to do the dressing a 4 bedroom bungalow and gate house.

omanzo02:

I noticed Spyder880 does roofing before parapet dressing in one of his project, the guy is an experienced builder, if he followed that sequence then it could be a good idea.

Thank you. The bricklayer almost scattered my plans and he's charging 150k for labour to do the dressing for a 4 bedroom bungalow and gate house. I think he was just after the money

mufutau55:


No, not true. You can do it when you are doing plastering of the house. Roof your house first.

Hajji M.

lol...in some of the villages, i don't see burglary and Bullet Proof doors ooo. As recent as 2019; is it because they dont have money to start with? i guess Thief dey look face!!!

Badgers14:
I still have a dream that one day, we all will be able to enjoy our homes burglary proof free..

Man, I don't like staying in my own house... it makes me feel trapped. I have never been in jail before, staying in my house makes me feel like I am in prison or in a house arrest , metal door, burglary proofs everywhere

Could you imagine living in a house like this (picture..below)....

Enjoying your environment, soaking up all that views etc... those natural lights , sitting out , telling your kids, grandkids , niece, nephews, cousins about your war stories how this all started, reminiscing some glory days...

.. that will be nice..

xzibukz:
Hello house.
Pls I have a little challenge, the engineer did something like a step here,
We will have to climb up and down from the dining to the kitchen and from the dining to the rooms lobby. I told him to make everything flat after I discovered I won't like that idea.
We are already done with the dpc. Pls what is the cost effective way to do the filling to make all levels flat, thanks

From my observation, I can see that your engr did good work here (am talking about the neatness and standard of work done)

The over site concrete is perfect.
Dpm was introduced.
Plumbing work is intact
And many more.

My Verdict
Your engr knows his work, he followed what your architect produced which I believed it’s ok by you at 1st when it's was delivered to you for final approval by your architect before your engr started ed the construction.

Solution to the problem
Leveled up the block height and recast the top level to be at par with the existing room oversite concrete( German floor).

My little observation and advise
Not bible.

Badgers14:
I still have a dream that one day, we all will be able to enjoy our homes burglary proof free..

Man, I don't like staying in my own house... it makes me feel trapped. I have never been in jail before, staying in my house makes me feel like I am in prison or in a house arrest , metal door, burglary proofs everywhere

Could you imagine living in a house like this (picture..below)....

Enjoying your environment, soaking up all that views etc... those natural lights , sitting out , telling your kids, grandkids , niece, nephews, cousins about your war stories how this all started, reminiscing some glory days...

.. that will be nice..

Unfortunately, Nigeria houses will have to do with burglary proof for the next 30 years or more, The security situation is too precarious to take the risk without one. Until Nigeria embrace community policing, restructured and equipped police service, prosperous economic climate, massive personal and public job creation, good educational system, better public utilities and most importantly mentality therapy etc, the security situation will never change.

The quality of glasses we have in Nigeria are also poor, in the pictures most of the glasses are treated and don't charter with one bang, the street, public transport, private compound are littered with security cameras that makes it easy to trace and identify suspect of burglar incident, fire and theft insurance is also security that ensure victims are compensated for their damages or property lost.

Yes, it's liberating and gives sense of freedom to live in a house without burglary, no dark curtain to shield indoor.

Sometimes we install burglary proof in soft target in the house, especially backdoors or hidden entrances.

GoodFaith:
This so call protest
Damaging government properties
Who are going to benefit from this damaged government properties?
People in power their family and friends will get the contract to re build
You just made the people you are protecting against richer

Dont do that....genuine protesters didn't do that....why so insensitive?? Lives were lost �....innocent people were murdered and injured in cold blood....majority of those people were there for you, me themselves....offcourse opportunists and those against protesting and thugs will always damage properties and spin....please let's be guided....the looting and burning them things are regrettable....

rotecch77:


From my observation, I can see that your engr did good work here (am talking about the neatness and standard of work done)

The over site concrete is perfect.
Dpm was introduced.
Plumbing work is intact
And many more.

My Verdict
Your engr knows his work, he followed what your architect produced which I believed it’s ok by you at 1st when it's was delivered to you for final approval by your architect before your engr started ed the construction.

Solution to the problem
Leveled up the block height and recast the top level to be at par with the existing room oversite concrete( German floor).

My little observation and advise
Not bible.

Pls is it possible we leveled all when tilling, and what is the safe method for that?

xzibukz:



Pls is it possible we leveled all when tilling, and what is the safe method for that?

The height and am seen here is much for tiling level method you mentioned.

Block height ————225mm
Dpc height —————100mm
Propose tiling height -75mm
Total height————-400mm

How are you going to be sure that the tiler can filled up the calculated height with proper mixed ratio to avoid caving of the floor in the nearest future ?

true2home:
lol...in some of the villages, i don't see burglary and Bullet Proof doors ooo. As recent as 2019; is it because they dont have money to start with? i guess Thief dey look face!!!

in my area here People with high fence get rob almost at all time... the one without fence don’t get rob at all lol irony

Omonjoe:
Thank you. The bricklayer almost scattered my plans and he's charging 150k for labour to do the dressing for a 4 bedroom bungalow and gate house. I think he was just after the money

Sir, it is very possible to plaster the parapet after roofing but the little challenge they may have is the finishing of the topmost edges of the parapet because the tip of the roof will be sitting on the parapet making it difficult to do a proper finishing at that end. Though the cost seems a little high but in honest truth if you really want to love your Parapet it doesn't come cheap. That is why I tell people precast is way way cheaper. If the parapet is not well plaster and all the grooves and angles are not well treated you will regret ever doing it.

chimexdnice1:
Good day everyone. Please I would like to know the difference, or rather which one is better, between itara and kokogbo hardwood? My capenter prefers the later as opposed to my choice. Please advise. Thank you.

The two of them, if mature, are very good.

Difference is just colour I guess. KOKOIGBO is majorly reddish in colour. Itara is cream-ish. Itara is harder when it's too dry.

twinskenny:
in my area here People with high fence get rob almost at all time... the one without fence don’t get rob at all lol irony

Robbers believe that people with high fence have money.