live4dgospel:


There was no record of Ananias being filled with the Holy Spirit, if there is tell me where it is written. That he was with believers doesn't make him a believer. Can you call Judas believer because he was with the disciples? As I said before he was an unbeliever in the midst of believers. He never had the Holy Spirit. Didn't Peter deny Jesus with a curse? Why didn't he hang himself, it is because he believed that Jesus is his Savior. If Judas had believed he would have held his peace and rest his weakness in the salvation of Jesus without having to commit suicide. Judas didn't commit sin against Jesus but against the Holy Spirit, this is the sin of unbelief.

Judas steoy and episode was to fulfil the scriptures. If he had repented, earlier prophecies won't have come to pass. Judas life and dealings with Christ is beyond human comprehension

Why we Christians are like this sometimes I keep asking myself when are we going to learn how to talk to each others about the word of God. Please let stop this insult and tolerate each other.

Thought as much

Truvel:
Derialer, What's D Different Btw Ur Points & His?

the answer is Sinning against the Law (Holy Spirit) willfully. Because the same law will judge you later.


Simple as abc

Cocobongo:
"How long shall the kill our prophets will we stand aside and look? O! some said it's just a part of it, we got to fulfill the BOOK"- Bob Marley

Have you ever asked youself what book was he talking about?
Who is trying to fulfill it?

Why do some Christians are against reggae music?
Why was Bob Marley killed?

They religious leaders will never tell you this?

Bob Marley
Ragged music
Religious leaders..

What are u saying??

Not to religion the holy spirit. I will say the holy spirit does not belongs to any sec. The belongs to all human across All time and across all space.

It reveals itself in my view as belonging to things in it purest or original form. A revealer of all truth in their purity. suggesting a form or path in which things should be approach to retain their purity and essences

A blasphemy in my take is a digression or seeming contamination of this original process of things which has been reveal either by way of a different kind spiritual awaken or intellectual enlighten.

Take for instance sex and the holy spirit. The purest form The holy spirit reveals is that sex is a sweet interpersonal experience shared by two..for the purpose of first procreational and secondly for human bonding which further may lead to peace stability and orderliness in the broader sense.

In the oppose is a contamination. Which is the indiscriminate use for pleasure alone.disregarding procreation or bonds. Which emerge disorderliness.


If I then state in my view that sex is for procreation/bond That lead to proper unification of the gender as should be and others differ strongly. They have blasphem against the holy spirit. I.e go against things in it's purest or truest form.

That's as rational as I can get with it.

Powerfly:
The unpardonable sin is unbelief.
The moment you die without accepting Salvation and forgiveness.. You enter an unpardonable state of eternal damnation and condemnation, because beyond the realm of mortals.. There's no repentance in the grave.

this is like the most reasonable answer ive gotten on this particular question.
also considering that the holy spirit is a witness, convicts us of our sin and does the work of salvation

Holyghost? A ghost is the spirit of a dead person believed to be roaming dark and quiet places especially at night. How can there be a Holy Ghost? Holy Ghost of the dead Jesus?
But Jesus didn't die naah? He only sacrificed his WEEKEND. He rested inside grave from Friday Evening to Sunday Morning. Is that one death? Stoopid brainwashed fellowsheeps, followsheeps and mofos busy deceiving and being deceived.

Shile981:
So tell me the fate of the Muslims who doesn't believe in the Gospel of Christ?

them die and go to hell fire! direct express to Hellfire.

Kobojunkie:
Stop lying in the name of God!

Jesus Christ was clear on what the unforgivable sin is and was... There is even an example of it happening in the book of Acts where Ananias and Saphira bit the dust because they lied against the Spirit of God. Herod was turned to worms, as a result of his gloating and taking glory for that which God, and not Him, made happen. Why not read the book and learn from it rather than pretend it is ok for any tom-dick-and-harry to inject their lies and delusions into what is written, ignoring facts.

Those who do not believe in God have already received a punishment befitting them since even the time of Adam. Why would God turn around to punish them for the exact same crime again? That is not what does. Unbelievers are those who are condemned to perish in the grave.

As for those of you who pretend yourselves a better lot in Christ, be careful, for Hell is the end for those who do not heed the words that Jesus Christ preached and taught. The believers who refuse to obey the commandments of the New Covenant that is Jesus Christ, the grace of God through Christ, you are essentially marking yourself for Hell.. yes, it is for some of those who believe(have eternal life) that Hell is prepared for.

if what u wrote above is actually the sin against the holy spirit, then no man could attain righteousness.for at one point or the other in our Christian work we have made this same errors.. i strongly believe u are wrong

You are still here talking about holy spirit and blasphemy.

Who bloody cares really. If thunder did not strike down the people killing us and suffering us in this country then both Jesus and the Holy Spirit are not doing a very good job and I don't care what sin he doesn't forgive, me I have not forgiven him myself.

anochuko01:

this is like the most reasonable answer ive gotten on this particular question.
also considering that the holy spirit is a witness, convicts us of our sin and does the work of salvation

yes that's true. The Holy spirit is a true witness.

Pastors, tell your youths in church today, if they participated in the looting/stealing of stores, warehouses, shops, houses etc is a SIN o
Let no one give an excuse that its because the FG is this and that
SIN NA SIN

Dear Seun,
When are we going to add the "Christian creed" to christian section?

...and programme it in such a way that whoever accepts the creed between Christian and Muslim section first will not be able to comment on the other section.

The Sin of Blasphemy against the Holy spirit is also translated sometimes as grieving the Holy spirit.

The most common theological explanation of this is that it means praying for forgiveness without believing, without Faith. We know that we need to have Faith in God for God to answer our prayers so grieving the Holy spirit means to be in a state where you have no faith at all in God and his Holy spirit.

That is why it is unforgivable, because you become incapable of asking for forgiveness.

Kobojunkie:
Stop lying in the name of God!

Jesus Christ was clear on what the unforgivable sin is and was... There is even an example of it happening in the book of Acts where Ananias and Saphira bit the dust because they lied against the Spirit of God. Herod was turned to worms, as a result of his gloating and taking glory for that which God, and not Him, made happen. Why not read the book and learn from it rather than pretend it is ok for any tom-dick-and-harry to inject their lies and delusions into what is written, ignoring facts.

Those who do not believe in God have already received a punishment befitting them since even the time of Adam. Why would God turn around to punish them for the exact same crime again? That is not what does. Unbelievers are those who are condemned to perish in the grave.

As for those of you who pretend yourselves a better lot in Christ, be careful, for Hell is the end for those who do not heed the words that Jesus Christ preached and taught. The believers who refuse to obey the commandments of the New Covenant that is Jesus Christ, the grace of God through Christ, you are essentially marking yourself for Hell.. yes, it is for some of those who believe(have eternal life) that Hell is prepared for.

And you think you have not told lies since you were born. My friend think before you type. A sin against the holy spirit remain what the ops posted.

Righteousness89:
When you Speak against or Contend with what the Spirit of God is Doing , it's a Blasphemy. E.g.
Insulting or Speaking against a Genuine Servant of God or against what GOD is doing through him/her.

Conciously Misinterpreting the Bible for fun or to mislead others is Blasphemy..
The Word of God Contains the Spirt of God.

One who Conciously turns what God is doing to Merchandise!!

Lying with the name of the Holy Spirit..

Making use of the doings of the Holy Spirit to Joke..
What the man in Rome just did is an act of Grieving the Spirit of God..

There are so many things!

We Just need to be careful in life not to Grieve the Spirit of God!

On point..... that's what blasphemy means in my own opinion. Unbelief doesn't mean blasphemy because unbelievers can be saved, they can be converted. Even Paul was a staunch unbeliever even after hearing the Gospel from the disciples, it took Divine intervention from Jesus himself to convert him.

To lie, joke & speak wrong against the spirit of God

No prophet sent from God will die again, enough is enough!!!!

The Kingdom of God must be fully established here on earth!!!

God is not a respecter of person!!!

coolsegun2002:


Bob Marley
Ragged music
Religious leaders..

What are u saying??

Go listen to the music

I believe when you say "unforgivable", it means something that can't be forgiven anymore and also for you to term something 'unforgiveable' it means even when someone repents or asks for forgiveness of that particular action, it won't be forgiven. Now are you saying if an unbeliever repents of his/her sins, it won't be forgiven of him/her? As I said before even Paul didn't believe till a divine intervention from Christ. What think to be blasphemy against the Spirit of God is mockery against his person, lying on his account or with his name, giving off false projections by claiming to be under his influence and so on. Now this is my own understanding of it and I might be wrong but that's the whole essence of this thread to be rightfully corrected and not to undermine or insult other people's contributions

Thank you, Jesus. ❤

If unbelief is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost then Paul and Thomas wouldn't have had a ministry at all, considering their unblief in the past.

Holy Spirit is a personality that can be grieved (Eph 4:30), vexed or rebelled (Is 63:10), opposed (Acts 7:51), lie against (Acts 5) and quenched (I Thess 5:19) but woe to whomever that does this whether a believer or non believer.

Non of the Apostles received the Holy Spirit while Jesus Christ was with them. So not clear why mixing up Judas Iscariot and whether he believed in Jesus or not. That you believed in Jesus doesn't mean you are immuned from temptation. How you overcome temptation and be victorious, is by the Spirit of God and the Word. Not by your will or strength or your past accomplishments or victories. It is a continuum in HOLY spirit - walking and communing in Holy Spirit.

live4dgospel:
Matthew 12:31-32

"Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come."

What really constitutes this unforgivable sin? This is a fearful sin nobody would want to commit, right? Because Jesus Himself said that such sin cannot be forgiven either in this world or in the world to come. Today, I would like to shed light on this unforgivable sin and the responsibility of every human being born on this earth. What is the unforgivable sin? If someone says to someone who is speaking in strange tongues, "Shut up!". Does it mean he has committed the unforgivable sin? If someone criticizes prophets and pastors, has he committed the unforgivable sin? Because of this many Christians are afraid of speaking up against all these false miracles, signs, prophecies being propagated by these ministers. I know they think this way because of the scenario that led Jesus to talk about the unforgivable sin. In verse 24 it is written "Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, “This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.”
This is exactly what gave people the misconceptions of the unforgivable sin. What led the Pharisees to utter those words? It because they didn't believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God and their long awaited Messiah. In order words, they didn't believe in the Word of God. It is from the heart the mouth speaks, and God looks at the heart and not just spoken words (1 Samuel 16:7).
In verse 25 it written "But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand." That Jesus knew their "thoughts", means Jesus knew their unbelieving hearts, He considered their thoughts not just their spoken words.

Dear fellow Christians, the unforgivable sin is the sin of unbelief. Whosoever commits this one sin cannot be forgiven. Some sins like fornication, murder, theft etc committed out one's weakness can be forgiven. But this sin of unbelief in the gospel of salvation is an unforgivable sin, which one decidedly commits all the days of his life. I mean someone who does not believe in the gospel of Jesus today might believe tomorrow, so the sin of refusing to believe in the gospel of salvation of Jesus Christ till the very end is the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
Let's ponder on this for a moment, how can someone be forgiven when he refuses to believe in the way of salvation? If he commits adultery and has received the way of salvation, his sin is forgiven, if he commits murder and has received the gospel of salvation, his murder is forgiven. How then will he be forgiven when he has rejected the very gospel of salvation? Imagine a man drowning in the ocean, a boat man comes around him, straights forward his hand and says "Give me your hand, let me take you in to my boat", to rescue the drowning man inside his boat. If the drowning man consistently refuses to accept the help, if he insists, "Don't worry, I can swim myself out of this ocean", will he be saved? Absolutely not. Therefore, the very sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is the sin of unbelief.
Let me explain this in greater details, Nicodemus came to Jesus by night for the fear of the Pharisees. He believed in Jesus but he wanted to learn more from Him, therefore he came to Him by night so that other Pharisees might not speak ill of him. He came to know the way of salvation which other Pharisees rejected. What did Jesus say to him?
He said “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." (John 3:5).
This very gospel of the water and the Spirit is the only way to enter the kingdom of God, so rejecting this gospel till the end is the unforgivable sin. God the Father planned our salvation, God the Son fulfilled it by coming to this world wearing human flesh, have our sins transferred to his head during baptism, and paid the price for sins with His own blood on the cross and rose again the third day, having obtained eternal redemption for those who believe. What is then the work of God the Holy Spirit? It is to bear witness of this gospel. 1 John 5:6
"This is He who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ; not only by water, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth."
Therefore anyone who refuses to believe in the witness of the Holy Spirit that Jesus Christ came by the water of His baptism and the blood of His crucifixion cannot be forgiven either in this world or in the world to come.

I think you have over simplified the unforgiving sin as UNBELIEF but no.

It simply means knowing the Holy Spirit BUT daring Him to do His worst. It means REJECTING the HOLY SPIRIT after knowing Him. It is more than committing sins. Just like with your heart and mouth you accept Jesus, one can with his
heart and mouth also reject Jesus and His Holy Spirit.

Heb 6:4-6:
"For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened , and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost , And have tasted the good word of God , and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again to repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame."

1Jn 5:16:
"If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not to death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not to death. There is a sin to death: I do not say that he shall pray for it."


We were ALL once in the din of UNBELIEF but became saved by grace

U guys should stop disturbing yourself nobody or very few in our generation dat can sin against the holy spirit
Check Heb from 6 down u will understand
A lot of misinformation spread by dis call pastors to bring fear to the congregation

No, the unforgiven sin is not unbelief but the sin of apostate ( abandoning Jesus and rejecting/renouncing Christ)

See now Hebrews 6:4 For it's impossible for those who were once elightened, tasted of haveanly gift..... Read to verse verse 5 it has 5 criteria before one can commit such sin.

Note that a baby christian can't commit the unforgiven sin, and for a Christian to be qualified to commit such sin, he must be very matured and must have partake of the five listed criterion.

A G. O of a church may not have even been qualified enough to commit such sin.
So say someone who has partook of the above criteria, and he is now very sure of whom Christ is like the apostles after the Holy ghost have come upon them, men like Peter, John, James, Paul, for them to now turn back and say Christ is a scam or the whole salvation issue is an hoax or a scam will put them in irreversible lane with God.

The Scripture is clear it says "It's impossible to bring them back" it means they can't be forgiven again and the bible is final about this and not emotional or guessing about it.

For further study

See THE TRIUMPHANT CHURCH BY KENNETH E. HAGIN

Kobojunkie:
Stop lying in the name of God!

Jesus Christ was clear on what the unforgivable sin is and was... There is even an example of it happening in the book of Acts where Ananias and Saphira bit the dust because they lied against the Spirit of God. Herod was turned to worms, as a result of his gloating and taking glory for that which God, and not Him, made happen. Why not read the book and learn from it rather than pretend it is ok for any tom-dick-and-harry to inject their lies and delusions into what is written, ignoring facts.

Those who do not believe in God have already received a punishment befitting them since even the time of Adam. Why would God turn around to punish them for the exact same crime again? That is not what does. Unbelievers are those who are condemned to perish in the grave.

As for those of you who pretend yourselves a better lot in Christ, be careful, for Hell is the end for those who do not heed the words that Jesus Christ preached and taught. The believers who refuse to obey the commandments of the New Covenant that is Jesus Christ, the grace of God through Christ, you are essentially marking yourself for Hell.. yes, it is for some of those who believe(have eternal life) that Hell is prepared for.

You needn't be so hard. He isn't lying. He said his understanding about the matter.

It is best to state your own point and leave

This matter pass me. Make I just they observe

womenareapes:
them die and go to hell fire! direct express to Hellfire.

hmm... what a pity