normal sexual intercourse between a married man and woman is natural.
anal and oralsex is lust:
Jas_1:15  Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

1 Thes 4:3-5. "For this is the will of God,...ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honor. Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God"

Barristter07:


What is glorious is perfect, A perfect body doesn't have wounds. Wounds either from accident or whatever is a dishonor to the body.





This is the meaning of incorruptible according to Mariam Webster


Definition of incorruptible
:
b: not subject to decay or dissolution


Sinners body is not subject to death or dissolution too.


Change what? Lol
Fraud man, QuOTE the definition of Natural , number 12 for this thread and let's see if it's not the same as physical. I deliberately wanted you to quote it . Since English is a problem for you

Incorruptible does not mean death, merriam Webster never defined it as such.

Ok, let me go with the assertion that the natural body means physical body but yet still does changes the fact about Jesus resurrection body.

Jesus body was a real body, flesh and bones but a spiritual one.
Since corruption means decay or dissolution,
Jesus body never suffered corruption mean that his body never decayed neither did it suffer dissolution.
As for sinners body, can you give me anywhere in the bible that said sinners body will be incorruptible? Rather the bible said worm will feed on their bodies which means decay but the worms never dies ( unending decay)

MaxInDHouse:

Did you also notice what Blabbermouth (who has been criticising the idea of one Organization) said

false jw mad max

you cowards love to bring others in
just like trivina tried to

AkinwaleJJ:
Oh i can see you're the fool Roseline often call the "fake wealthy pastor" Sorry you're not a real man, no wonder the little girl love making fun of your worthlessness.
Where is Roseline? You're not difficult to describe, she labelled you Pastor with only three Bible quotes perfect description of you fake wealthy pastor!

like husband like wife

Rev 21:8  But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

livingchrist:

Incorruptible does not mean death, merriam Webster never defined it as such.

Do you read ?

Def of incorruptible
:
b: not subject to decay or dissolution

Define dissolution ?

Ok, let me go with the assertion that the natural body means physical body but yet still does changes the fact about Jesus resurrection body.

Jesus body was a real body, flesh and bones but a spiritual one.

Real body, you mean physical body ?
That means apostle Paul was wrong. It was raised a physical body not spiritual. Spiritual is not physical. Are u sure you know what you are doing ?

Since corruption means decay or dissolution,

Corruption means decay

Jesus body never suffered corruption mean that his body never decayed neither did it suffer dissolution.
As for sinners body, can you give me anywhere in the bible that said sinners body will be incorruptible?

Will they die ? No.

Will they decay ? No

That's the prove of incorruptible body of sinners. It will also be a real body of flesh and bones. Guy, Sinners share Christ body

Rather the bible said worm will feed on their bodies which means decay but the worms never dies ( unending decay)

Show me where it says the above ?
Big lie. If worm will feed on it, they won't have exist forever in that hell. Neither the fire nor worm have any power of that body. It's incorruptible , cannot die nor decay.

johnw47:
normal sexual intercourse between a married man and woman is natural.
anal and oralsex is lust:
Jas_1:15  Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Don't let God of heaven Judge you. Stop this shameful display, leave AkinwaleJJ and MaXinDhouse alone. And not just them, Other married couples you come across. Are they complaining?

Whatever happens between a married couple is their business, not yours.

Do you not read 1Corinthians 7:4 ?

" The wife gives authority over her body to her husband, and the husband gives authority over his body to his wife. "

Desist from nonsense post and respect their authority to do whatever they want with their bodies.

Barristter07:

You know very well that the physical rendering will finish you . Hence the denials.
KJV said it is sown a natural body ... Is this not the physical body ?

He now admit natural means physical. But insisted Paul is wrong , Jesus was raised with the same Natural/physical body . Comedy lol

MaxInDHouse:


They are scattered in different DENOMINATIONS of Christendom Churches with contracting teachings and conflicting doctrines!

They are mistaken, Jesus stress the importance of his followers been in the same organization when he said be careful of the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees. Jesus is against wrong teaching. It's one thing to believe in Jesus , it's another to swallow teachings of the Pharisees, So when they are together, that's when they can assist each other on the right path and where there is need to adjust like the circumcision issue, Readjustment can occur in their midst . This won't be Feasible if many of them are still scattered in various ideologies around that time.

Jozzy4:

OK you think believers must share the same line of thought shey?

I think sey nah only Jesus {John 17:20-23} and Paul {1Corinthians 1:10} say believers should have the same line of thought!

You know women are not that calm when they see some useless radical religionsist who just want to impose his own man-made doctrine on everyone. She wanted to track him down by posting her pics perhaps to get to know the useless commentator and deal with him but i've resolved that, she'll no more feature on religious section because she's too emotional.
Thanks!

Jozzy4:


Don't let God of heaven Judge you. Stop this shameful display, leave AkinwaleJJ and MaXinDhouse alone. And not just them, Other married couples you came across.

Whatever happens between a married couple is their business, not yours.

Do you not read 1Corinthians 7:4 ?

" The wife gives authority over her body to her husband, and the husband gives authority over his body to his wife. "

Desist from nonsense post and respect their authority to do whatever they want with their bodies.

Jozzy4:


Don't let God of heaven Judge you. Stop this shameful display, leave AkinwaleJJ and MaXinDhouse alone. And not just them, Other married couples you come across. Are they complaining?

Whatever happens between a married couple is their business, not yours.

Do you not read 1Corinthians 7:4 ?

" The wife gives authority over her body to her husband, and the husband gives authority over his body to his wife. "

Desist from nonsense post and respect their authority to do whatever they want with their bodies.

dope jozzy4

God doesn't give authority for sexual immorality, fool

you stick with your false jw immorality
i will speak against it

normal sexual intercourse between a married man and woman is natural.
anal and oralsex is lust:
Jas_1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

MaxInDHouse:
You know women are not that calm when they see some useless radical religionsist who just want to impose his own man-made doctrine on everyone. She wanted to track him down by posting her pics perhaps to get to know the useless commentator and deal with him but i've resolved that, she'll no more feature on religious section because she's too emotional.
Thanks!

unstable false jw mad max

the scriptures i have posted are not man made doctrine, fool

oh duh mad max, she was really dealing with me

if it was going good for her you wouldn't have banned her, fool jw

Rev 21:8  But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

johnw47:

the scriptures i have posted are not man made doctrine, fool

Just explain what an adult (man) intoxicated with a woman's breast meant to you! Proverbs 5:19
Then explain what God's word is saying about a man singing about his wife's breasts and curves! Song of Solomon 7:1-3
Also explain what Paul meant at 1Corinthians 7:4

The only seemingly related scripture you quoted was about "lust" {James 1:15} that says "lust can lead to sin" now there is no scripture that linked sin to what married couples do in the private!

MaxInDHouse:

Just explain what an adult (man) intoxicated with a woman's breast meant to you! Proverbs 5:19
Then explain what God's word is saying about a man singing about his wife's breasts and curves! Song of Solomon 7:1-3
Also explain what Paul meant at 1Corinthians 7:4

The only seemingly related scripture you quoted was about "lust" {James 1:15} that says "lust can lead to sin" now there is no scripture that linked sin to what married couples do in the private!

lying false jw mad max
here is another from just this page:

johnw47:

1 Thes 4:3-5. "For this is the will of God,...ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honor. Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God"

MaxInDHouse:

Just explain what an adult (man) intoxicated with a woman's breast meant to you! Proverbs 5:19
Then explain what God's word is saying about a man singing about his wife's breasts and curves! Song of Solomon 7:1-3
Also explain what Paul meant at 1Corinthians 7:4

The only seemingly related scripture you quoted was about "lust" {James 1:15} that says "lust can lead to sin" now there is no scripture that linked sin to what married couples do in the private!

deluded false jw mad max
you believe if you and trivina have oral and even anal sex or any kind of sex behind closed doors
that it's okay with God so long as you enjoy it, and not only okay but that it is in fact "holy"
talk about satans false jw mob:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

MaxInDHouse:

Just explain what an adult (man) intoxicated with a woman's breast meant to you! Proverbs 5:19
Then explain what God's word is saying about a man singing about his wife's breasts and curves! Song of Solomon 7:1-3
Also explain what Paul meant at 1Corinthians 7:4

The only seemingly related scripture you quoted was about "lust" {James 1:15}[/b] that says "lust can lead to sin" now there is no scripture that linked sin to what married couples do in the private!

here is another i posted lying unstable max

1Jn_2:16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

MaxInDHouse:
You are free jare no wahala!
Those who wish to know the one and only TRUE Christian group like me will not relent, they will continue to seek righteousness! Zephaniah 2:2-3
So keep working for your God!

You mean TRUE CURSED and BASTARDIZED group . Oga use the new DIVINE NAME given in 1931

When something or issues are private. They remain private. I bet no one forced MaxInDHouse to dish out what happens in his private life here on a PUBLIC FORUM. Johnw47 didn't dip his hands inside the throat of Max to DIVULGE it either.

When the individual brought it into a PUBLIC space. The individual forgot it was a private matter. The individual went ahead to use the same PRIVATE matter to INSULT the same person he is in discussion with. Now the reactions to his actions are coming back. You cry BLUE MURDER.


Nobody will castigate him for telling you what he does in private with his wife, there must have been a discussion between you two leading to that and nothing's gonna happen even if you cry over it from now till eternity!.........copied


One can never tell what will happen INDEED or tell about one will be free of CASTIGATIONS on a public forum like this.

johnw47:


dope jozzy4

God doesn't give authority for sexual immorality, fool

you stick with your false jw immorality
i will speak against it

normal sexual intercourse between a married man and woman is natural.
anal and oralsex is lust:
Jas_1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Go back to my post and read the scripture quoted and stop acting silly in public. I shared that post not only for MaxiInDHouse , But any other couple you meet , don't ever interfere in their private matters. Whatever they do is between them. They have authority over every part of their bodies.

johnw47:


here is another i posted lying unstable max

1Jn_2:16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Sexual desires with ones married partner is not lust. You need to understand scripture before quoting them.

Jozzy4:

Sexual desires with ones married partner is not lust. You need to understand scripture before quoting them.

He's just one of those churchrats who only swallow whatever pastor says, now that it's time to relate his beliefs with the scriptures, instead of quoting the words to make meaning he's just quoting out of context!

Go and worship with MuttleyLaff, your homosexual brother in da lord!
I'm OK with my own wife in the one and only group that's worshiping the God i understood.

achorladey:
When something or issues are private. They remain private. I bet no one forced MaxInDHouse to dish out what happens in his private life here on a PUBLIC FORUM. Johnw47 didn't dip his hands inside the throat of Max to DIVULGE it either.

When the individual brought it into a PUBLIC space. The individual forgot it was a private matter. The individual went ahead to use the same PRIVATE matter to INSULT the same person he is in discussion with. Now the reactions to his actions are coming back. You cry BLUE MURDER.


Nobody will castigate him for telling you what he does in private with his wife, there must have been a discussion between you two leading to that and nothing's gonna happen even if you cry over it from now till eternity!.........copied


One can never tell what will happen INDEED or tell about one will be free of CASTIGATIONS on a public forum like this.

Jozzy4:


Go back to my post and read the scripture quoted and stop acting silly in public. I shared that post not only for MaxiInDHouse , But any other couple you meet , don't ever interfere in their private matters. Whatever they do is between them. They have authority over every part of their bodies.

Now i know it's a problem when people just associate with religionsists without studying the Bible diligently. Many people still need to know the reason why God after creating Adam and Eve left them naked to continue examining each other's private parts without hindrance!
Even after Paul's comment saying the wife has authority over her husband's body and that the husband also have the same authority over the wife's body, the wife has no right to deprive her husband and that the husband has no right to deprive his wife {1Corinthians 7:3-4} these misinformed religionsists still carry loads of man-made traditions on their heads.
One can't even distinguish between Bible readers and our uncivilized people who used to make tiny windows for couples back then. I remembered my grandma once told me that it was a taboo for a woman to see her husband's organ!
Now these Churchrats are now bringing back the memories of my old grandma's superstitious idea. Please do you think my grandma will ever believe that God created Adam and Eve for the two to walk about nakedly?
Yet she was a bonafide member of Africa Church in our village back then o!

brocab:
The truth is the bible-outside the bible-you have nothing. And what is the bible-it's God's Word-you even use it yourselves-to prove a point..
Now anytime you may believe you may even be with the Lord-He doesn't look at denominations-He looks at heart. Matter of fact Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world.
He never called Himself a JW' the Watchtower had added what you believe is the organisation you call a denomination. [/color]

If only you studied your Bible , you won't write that CRAP (bolded)
According to your Bible, Isaiah 43:10-12, John 9:4 & Acts 3:13, Rev3:12-14 what does Jehovah call His servants ?
Who is the God and Father of servants of Jehovah?

Bros, you have the option to DECEIVE yourself

livingchrist:
which dictionary tell you that natural is physical nature?

Bros, From the same Merriam- Webster dictionary you consulted, see the hard evidence here

Barristter07:


You have finished yourself with that dictionary you quoted. Quote definition 12 according to Mariam webster for Natural on this thread

The Bros done jakpa shepaly. He can't give you ammunition to nail his spurious claims nau.

MaxInDHouse:
Go and worship with MuttleyLaff, your homosexual brother in da lord!

Where and when did you learn that achorladey is homosexual, hmm? Have you irrefutable evidence that achorladey is homosexual, erhn?

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MaxInDHouse formerly aka Maximus69:
She's my QUEEN!
For your information, i always shave the hairs in her puSsy because she's mine and mine alone!
So we both do everything together like babies, in fact most friends i have now are far too young to me because they want to know what exactly is keeping my wife and i so close, some thought it's jass until they hear how we met and all the things we've both been through!
Yes! I can do anything as in ANYTHING for my one and only Trivina!

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MaxInDHouse:
I'm OK with my own wife in the one and only group that's worshiping the God i understood.

MuttleyLaff:
I am sure you've noticed that I ignored your AkinwaleJJ foolery and unsubstantiated "hmmm, so you're homosexual ..." claim, but now you out of frustration, want to rope me in with Bobrisky and purporting that he lives in Nigeria with me. Is this the sort of intelligence gathering tattered training you were put through, make up stories and fit up people you have dealing with on false charges, hmm.

You are a self confessed extremely unpleasant and unsavoury bigot, who especially, discriminates against the sort of persons, who are, like two God believing, have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do, that you wouldnt have them worship God together with you. You rather they be ostracised.

I wonder what you will do, if at the point of death, and it happens that a homosexual is the only person alive who can medically save you, asks that you both join hands together, to say a prayer of agreement together to God. I would hazard a guess that, you'll probably bite your nose off to spite your face, lmso

You're unable to give the answer to "What in one word, outlives marriage?" but you rather without empirical evidence to support your wild goose chase, are hellbent persistent in trying hard to homosexualise me. Your sort, usually are closet homosexuals anyway and into all sort of kinky stuff, that by yourself, you've admitted to be up to on this forum, so I won't be surprised when you get forced to come out from your homosexual closet, lmso

Fyi, making homosexuality per se, a sin, is a Constantine Christian invention, so you please, better don't go there, that direction, lmso. Ani, don’t ever go that way, lmso

If you are OK with your wife, then, leave in peace for them too to be happy, loving each other, any two God believing, have accepted Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, consenting adults, enjoying having a lifetime until death do part them, loving each other, faithful, kind, caring, committed monogamous homosexual relationship, with no evil or harm done to each other, children, neighbour and environment, but exuding the fruit of the Holy Spirit, as is expected to from any other children of God to do. Why put discriminating against homosexuals for head, like as if you're a shrimp.

No one faults you, for your circulated here on this forum by at least one poster, info about your alleged enjoyment of having anal sex, shaving hair from honeypot, your confession of committing past rapes and even confessing to enjoy having your chicken stroked and in kinky fashion marvelled at

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Jozzy4:


Do you read ?

Def of incorruptible
:
b: not subject to decay or dissolution

Define dissolution ?



Real body, you mean physical body ?
That means apostle Paul was wrong. It was raised a physical body not spiritual. Spiritual is not physical. Are u sure you know what you are doing ?

I hope you know that there is a greek word for 'physical'?



Bible > Interlinear > 1 Corinthians 15:44
◄ 1 Corinthians 15:44 ►
1 Corinthians 15 - Click for Chapter
44 4687 [e]
44 speiretai
44 σπείρεται
44 It is sown
44 V-PIM/P-3S
4983 [e]
sōma
σῶμα
a body
N-NNS
5591 [e]
psychikon
ψυχικόν ,
natural
Adj-NNS

Do you know what psychikon mean in english?
It means soulish or animal like


Greek words are not black and white like you think.
If paul wanted to use physical he could used fysikos instead.

There are cases in the bible where physical things or beings where described as spiritual.

For example,

1 Corinthians 10:3-4 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

We all know the Israelites both ate and drank real physical food and drinks.
The opposite of physical is not neccesarily spiritual.

Corruption means decay



Will they die ? No.

Will they decay ? No

That's the prove of incorruptible body of sinners. It will also be a real body of flesh and bones. Guy, Sinners share Christ body


Show me where it says the above ?
Big lie. If worm will feed on it, they won't have exist forever in that hell. Neither the fire nor worm have any power of that body. It's incorruptible , cannot die nor decay.

corruption is not death, dont get it twisted, corruption simply means decay or disintegration which leads to death.

Mark 9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

The worms that fist on the body of those in hell do not die.
If worms could fist on the body of sinners then their body is a corruptible body

Janosky:

Bros, From the same Merriam- Webster dictionary you consulted, see the hard evidence here

A single word can have various meaning, it does not mean all can be applied in all occasion.
Definition 12 does not cut it, in the case of 1 Corinthians 15vv44

livingchrist:
A single word can have meaning meaning, it does not mean all can be applied in all occasion.
Definition 12 does not cut it, in the case of 1 Corinthians 15vv44

Bros, according to you, these Translations does not cut it... because in your faulty submission, Physical is not natural and the human body is not physical. Haaaaa !!
Omo you go write your own Bible na


1 Corinthians15:44
Contemporary English Version
As surely as there are physical bodies, there are spiritual bodies. And our physical bodies will be changed into spiritual bodies.

Good News Translation
When buried, it is a physical body; when raised, it will be a spiritual body. There is, of course, a physical body, so there has to be a spiritual body.



International Standard Version
It is planted a physical body but is raised a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual body.


Aramaic Bible in Plain English
It is sown an animal body; a spiritual body rises, for there is an animal body, and there is a spiritual body.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
It is planted as a physical body. It comes back to life as a spiritual body. As there is a physical body, so there is also a spiritual body.