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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 12:26am On Oct 26, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: dum dum blabbermouth fool, you wouldn't know Jesus if you came face to face with Him |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 12:34am On Oct 26, 2020 |
johnw47: In public forum as this, you don't expect everyone to share the same view as you. Don't be so quick to insult people. Taking dogmatic stand in situations where God doesn't not give clear-cut rules as the manner to which sexual relation should be between Husband and Wife is repugnant. God created sex for couples to enjoy and not just for 'reproduction style/sake' . He wants them to express love to themselves some expression of it in (Proverbs 5:15-20), you might also want to read song of Solomon. Don't police people or authorized your traditional view on them. One thing certain is that, every couple will stand in judgement before God . Awaiting the usual insult 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Blabbermouth: 12:37am On Oct 26, 2020 |
johnw47:Matthew 5:22. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 12:46am On Oct 26, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: These little flocks that's is going to be part of the heavenly government will have their privileged of service to eternity (Rev 22;5) |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 12:47am On Oct 26, 2020 |
Blabbermouth: Luk_12:20 But God said unto him, fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? like i said blabbermouth fool you wouldn't know Jesus if you came face to face with Him Rev 21:8 But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 12:57am On Oct 26, 2020 |
haddeylium: false jw haddey of course you believe like other false jw's that it's alright with God for you to have any kinds of sex, which includes anal sex behind closed doors between a married couple, so long as you enjoy it, and that it is in fact "holy" you are clearly satan's mob: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by haddeylium(m): 1:36am On Oct 26, 2020 |
johnw47: You're dyslexic? You've been parading yourself as a pervert all along.. You're the only quoting and crying over anal sex How could someone not loose a brain cells in conversations with you Rest ahbegg! 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Ndipe(m): 4:41am On Oct 26, 2020 |
https://carm.org/jesus-resurrection-was-physical quote author=Janosky post=95332498] Bros , according to your link , was Jesus resurrected body "different from before his crucifixion "? Do you now agree that the title of your link is "Jesus use the same body" is FALSE ? According to your link, the Roman soldiers "literally drained the blood from Jesus body, is that claim in your own Bible? Why would Jesus be able to appear and disappear if he's not floating like spirits ? [/quote] |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 5:06am On Oct 26, 2020 |
Though he banned me from commenting on the R~section on NL but i woke up this morning and i can't stop laughing, you're just as naughty as my man. Surely i also don't give in to anal sex cause i can't just sense the pleasure after trying it once since 24 years ago with my ex, my hobby also hate it but oral is best when there's no preventives or during menstrual cycle. It's like most ex Muslims have same thinking cap, your demanding scriptural backing for Mr John's pigheaded opinion shows you're same as my hobby! Blabbermouth: 2 Likes |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 5:26am On Oct 26, 2020 |
In ancient Israel there were 13 tribes after Jacob splitted Joseph's family to two, this makes Ephraim and Manasseh two tribes instead of being one under Joseph's clan. All the twelve tribes live and work anywhere they like in Israel but as for the Levitical family they are stationed in Jerusalem! So according to the new covenant, the 144,000 who will serve as Kings and Priests will forever remain in the new Jerusalem (heaven) with the King of kings who is now the highpriest (Jesus) that's why Apostle Paul could say "there we (144,000) will be with the Lord forever" [1Thess 4:16-17] Apostle John also saw the same vision in revelation! [Reve 14:4] saying they go anywhere the Lamb goes. Jesus (the new highpriest) is no more coming to live in the flesh so all the chosen priests who were bought from the earth will also remain with him forever {Reve 22:5} that's what he went to prepare for them in heaven a permanent home. John 14:1-4 Blabbermouth: |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Jozzy4: 7:42am On Oct 26, 2020 |
livingchrist:Look up that verse and see how many translation use the word " physical" . It's clear you are the deluded one here. What is buried us flesh and bones, which is Natural or physical body. Natural body means physical body. Definition number 12 from Mariam Webster also admit this.
Spiritual is That which is opposed to physical . Undisputed. That's so weak, The Christ in heaven at the time of the isrealites is a physical Rock ? Decay leads to death u say. But the Sinners wont die too. They are immune from the effect of the fire and worms. That's an Incorruptible body. They ain't decaying in the first place. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 9:04am On Oct 26, 2020 |
Jozzy4:good, I did not say it cannot be translated as physical only that it is a weak translation. Spiritual is That which is opposed to physical . Undisputed.No, not nesccesarily. The Rock was also a physical rock that produced water for them. Also they ate spiritual food, does that mean that the food was not also physical? Decay leads to death u say.Decay does not neccesarily leads to death, it can come after death or before death. Your fraudulent organisation lied that Jesus body was dissolved whereas the bible said His body didnt suffer decay. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 9:17am On Oct 26, 2020 |
haddeylium: that's it coward run away again from the truth twist things around like all you false jw's do the fact is you, jozz, blabber etc. are agreeing with mad max that a married couple can do anything behind closed doors, max and trivina mentioned hand jobs and blow jobs, and so anal intercourse also fits into the anything catorgrie, unstable max says they are not only okay, but anything a married couple do behind closed doors is "holy", deluded one and all that's the subject girlie, that you all keep running from liars and deceivers that you are: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev 21:8 But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Jozzy4: 9:29am On Oct 26, 2020 |
livingchrist: It's not weak , natural means physical . Every dictionary can testify. Don't be deluded. Paul drive it home when he said the natural is buried. That same physical body buried. It's now so silly that You are saying it is raised as well as the same Natural/physical body.
If Christ is not the physical Rock. U quoted a wrong verse. Your point can only stand if the Christ of the time of the isrealites is a rock that can be physically touched.
Those sinners ain't dying. Worms feed on something to ruin it. That they were to exist forever proved neither the fire or worm. Affect them. Their flesh and bones body is eternally incorruptible like the one you gave to Christ by your logic. Did they say it suffer decay ? He surely wasn't raised a physical body . so where is the body if that explanation is not correct in your eyes ? Physical body is a body of flesh and bones like the one he was buried with. So appreciate that explanation. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 10:04am On Oct 26, 2020 |
AkinwaleJJ, I thought you said you were an aged mother? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 11:04am On Oct 26, 2020 |
Jozzy4:actually it is, words has places they best fit. If Christ is not the physical Rock. U quoted a wrong verse. Your point can only stand if the Christ of the time of the isrealites is a rock that can be physically touched. How about this, Numbers 20:11 And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice: and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also. Those sinners ain't dying. Worms feed on something to ruin it. That they were to exist forever proved neither the fire or worm. Affect them. Their flesh and bones body is eternally incorruptible like the one you gave to Christ by your logic.corruption does not mean death. An incorruptible body can not be eaten by worms. The same dictionary you used told you that decay means dissolution. Fraudulent organisation, Jesus body did not decay, what happened to it? 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Emusan(m): 11:37am On Oct 26, 2020 |
AkinwaleJJ: But even your organization admitted that the early Bible students made mistakes as those of Apostles. So which means going by your point, no one is in heaven with Christ since virtually NO HUMAN IS INFALLIBLE. This is a statement from Watchtower "The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction. In fact, the Watch Tower Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clarified,” which lists adjustments in our Scriptural understanding since 1870. Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food." Watchtower 2017 Feb p.26 Now do you think anyone among Jehovah witness since inception will be in heaven by now? It is a contradiction to later claimed that people are already resurrected to heaven since 1914. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 12:20pm On Oct 26, 2020 |
DappaD:I have a grandson now though from my stepson whom i brought up as my biological son, and my own biological son is now 21. So what do you think of me? Perhaps a woman in her 40s shouldn't feel young, agile and vibrant again for marrying an African, right? |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 12:38pm On Oct 26, 2020 |
Emusan: Mere mistakes differs from deliberate acts! Peter's feeble faith almost got him drowned, wanted to behead a thug who was smart enough to dodge but the man's ear didn't escape the sword, denied Jesus three times, was afraid of Jewish Christians to the extent he separated himself from gentile Christians. All these are mistakes but never deliberate acts, unlike Judas Iscariot who deliberately stole money from what is kept with him and even sold Jesus for money. Both committed blunders but Peter's error was a result of imperfection while Judas's deliberate acts still needs more counseling if he will keep his prospect as citizen of God's Kingdom, one is still under the grace of being part of the ruling class while the other could only wait to become a citizen under God's Kingdom. That's why God's word said all those who aren't part of the first resurrection must undergo a thousand years assessment before they could be counted worthy of life! Reve 20:5-6 |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by DappaD: 12:42pm On Oct 26, 2020 |
AkinwaleJJ: No, no that's not what I'm saying. I can't be the only one who might have noticed the striking similarity/resemblance in the comments you, MaxInDHouse/Maximus69, TATIME have made on NL so far. I'd like to offer a suggestion but can't do that on a public forum. |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by AkinwaleJJ(f): 2:31pm On Oct 26, 2020 |
DappaD: The secret is 22 & half years together! |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:16pm On Oct 26, 2020 |
@MuttleyLaff I didn't say Achorladey is a homosexual, he's just brother in the same faith. That's what people like Apostle Paul and Max detests vehemently! 1Corinthians 6:9 I'm sure you're part of the moderators on this forum because each time you earn a ban, you often start commenting within the next few minutes whereas others will have to wait for the next 24hrs. But that's not going to change anything, JWs will never worship with a homosexual, even if you're one before you start associating, it's either you stop the demonic act or you hide it from the congregation like fornicators, adulterers, pedophiles, drunkards, spiritists and others |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MuttleyLaff: 5:00pm On Oct 26, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img] Hmm, awọn aiye, ọmọ Adamọ You made sure you forced me to emerge from my "Temporarily closed for Spiritual Servicing & Maintenance" hiatus Why couldn't you use this same intelligence to know, understand and figure out that the words translated from Greek to the following English words: "effeminate," "idolaters," "fornicators" and "adulterers" in 1 Corinthians 6:9, do not convey Apostle Paul's original import nor the explicit meaning of the Greek original words, hmm? No more comment from my end before "Temporarily closed for Spiritual Servicing & Maintenance" is over 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:49pm On Oct 26, 2020 |
Never mind Max jare, you're OK with your God even if Max refuse to worship with you Sir! MuttleyLaff: |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by johnw47: 9:50am On Oct 27, 2020 |
AkinwaleJJ: false jw trivina you satans mob love talking about your unnatuural perverted sex activities to all and yes blabber did ask for scripture after i have already posted some and which you also are blinded to: 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. so what are these? cannot stop lying, unnatural and immoral trivina: Jas_1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. 1Jn_2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 1 Thes 4:3-5. "For this is the will of God,...ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honor. Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God" and more that you didn't see, blinded false jw trivina: Gal_5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 1Co 14:40 Let all things be done decently and in order. Heb_13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: 2 Corinthians 7:1 Therefore, since we have promises, dear friends, let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates the body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God. Romans 12:1 I appeal to you therefore brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, Which is your spiritual worship. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price, therefore glorify God in your body, and in your Spirit, which are God's. and yet more blinded one: all forms of sexual immorality are sinful 1Th 4:3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: 1Th 4:4 That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; 1Th 4:5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God: 1Th 4:6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified. 1Th 4:7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness. 1Th 4:8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit. paul identifies as sinful what is not natural. any sex act therefore that is not natural would be wrong. explicitly, paul identifies homosexuality. implicitly, paul refers to what is not natural generally. Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:23am On Oct 27, 2020 |
She'll not respond to you again so focus on the topic of discussion, it's like only you that's interested in the private sex life of a legally and scripturally married couple! johnw47: |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:28am On Oct 27, 2020 |
You're right but you missed just one aspect "Temperament" of course the two will become one but never in their manner to respond. There are so many things Max will just laugh it off but try to observe JJ closely! DappaD: |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Info6: 12:00pm On Oct 27, 2020 |
You joined the massive protest! End sars! End sars!! End Sars.. But what about the sins in your life that should be ended too? Let the change begins with you. REPENT! (Romans 2:21-22, Matthew 7:3-5) "Christmas is coming! Christmas is coming!! I have a budget!!! The year is ending." ...Is that why you cannot do good to that poor man that came to you to beg money for his son who is on admission in the hospital? Don't stop doing good for whatever reasons. REPENT! (Deuteronomy 15:7-10) Why kill yourself, kill others, join secret society, loot the nation's treasury, do rituals, yahoo yahoo, prostitute? #REPENT! (Galatians 5:19-21) Let's talk about you. Who are you? Why the pride? What do you have? Even till this moment no man is richer than solomon. Be humble, and REPENT! (1 King 3:12-13) Nobody has it all & nobody knows it all! The millionaire is broke in the eyes of the billionaire. The billionaire is broke in the eyes of the trillionaire! Remember, nobody ever lived in this world and get out of it alive! Death and God is above all. #REPENT! (1 Timothy 6:7) You are a millionaire watching your neighbours suffering to eat, but you said to yourself, "I worked for my money, they should work for their's". Let me ask you this, Did you work for God's blessing? REPENT! (Deuteronomy 8:18, Deuteronomy 6:10-12) You are a car owner, you come across students on their way back from school, standing on the road begging for lift, saying "please sir, please sir, the next junction.." Out of the wickedness of your heart, you drove off without carrying them, yet you joined the end SARS Movement. Where is the change sir? Where is the change ma? REPENT! (1 Timothy 4:12) Let the change begins with you. You can be the Governor of this great state! You can be the president of this great nation! Everyone is a king with well doing! REPENT! (Revelation 1:6) Don't mock people who come to seek your help. Because the same sun which melt butter is the same sun that hardens clay, be kind to everyone. REPENT! (1 Peter 2:17, Proverbs 17:5) Your wealth means nothing to God if it is not for the benefit of the poor. Always remember you were not born with wealth and you will not leave this world with it. REPENT! (Matthew 25:35-40, John 21:15-17) "...and at the end, both the rich and the poor will die and the souls return back to God who gave it." Vanity! REPENT! (Psalm 49:10) He gives you money for your upkeep. Does he take care of his own wife? My dear remember the law of the universe. whatever you sow that shall you reap, expect that when you finally get married to your own husband. #REPENT! (Galatians 6:7, Matthew 7:12) "I pledge to Nigeria, my country to be faithful, loyal, and honest." You are not loyal and honest, if you stand on the road with a wood-block collecting money from people. Where is the oath you sware? "I pledge to Nigeria my country... to defend her unity." Oga mek you too REPENT! (Luke 3:14) Luke 3:14 "And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages." REPENT! Anytime you find it difficult to forgive people, you are portraying yourself as an unbeliever. Christianity is a religion of love! Any man can offend you, be prepared for it. As they offend you, forgive them. Those who fail to forgive others, will not be forgiven by God. REPENT! (Matthew 6:15) Notice Board: Until you are born again, God ever abiding presence will never be with you. You must be born again to enjoy God's unlimited salvation. Please say the displayed prayer below in faith: Lord Jesus, come into my life. I accept You as my Lord and Personal Saviour. I believe in my heart You died and rose from the dead to save me.Thank You Lord for saving me, in Jesus name Amen. Congratulations for taking the best decision in life if you said that prayer. Thanks for your attention. This is evangelism. Pls take a part in it and forward to group or contacts you care for. God will bless u as u do this in Jesus name. *Pls never be ashamed of Jesus Christ or his good work.. For he cares and loves you* |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Jozzy4: 3:53pm On Oct 27, 2020 |
livingchrist: Living Christ : the same body rises . Physical body died and was raised Paul; No, It was buried a physical body, but raised a spiritual one. If there was a physical body, there is a Spiritual one too. Can you see yourself ?
Moses hit Christ ? Or is Christ not the rock again ? Stop quoting what you don't understand
Just as sinners body will never be eaten by worms. It exist forever . Incorruptible , won't die or decay . U just busy proving Jesus and the sinners got same body
We know Jesus wasn't raised a physical body, begs the question: if you don't agree with that explanation, where is the physical body ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by livingchrist: 8:35pm On Oct 27, 2020 |
Jozzy4:do you even understand anything at all? It[the body] is sow a natural body but [the body] raised a spiritual body. Whether you call it physical or not, the fact remain that Jesus body rose but in a different state but your organisation denied it. Moses hit Christ ? Or is Christ not the rock again ? It does not change the fact that Jesus rose with his body Just as sinners body will never be eaten by worms. It exist forever . Incorruptible , won't die or decay . U just busy proving Jesus and the sinners got same body Only a dummy will deny what has being clear set before you. Sinners body will be eaten by worm Jesus said ao. We know Jesus wasn't raised a physical body, begs the question: if you don't agree with that explanation, where is the physical body ?but your organisation said Jesus body was destroyed, that means Jesus body was never raised. Fraudulent organisation. 1 Like |
Re: After Jesus’ Resurrection, Was His Body Flesh Or Spirit? by Janosky: 9:53pm On Oct 27, 2020 |
livingchrist:@*1 WAYO man wey refuse to accept the truth that "physical body" is the same as 'natural body' even when him biblehub and EVERY Dictionary quote tell am say it applies to beasts and Man . @*2. WAYO man done bring his own FALSE gospel he DUBIOUSLY attach to JWs.. Bros, have JWs not extensively quoted Jesus speaking to you @ John 6:51 and Paul speaking to you @Hebrews 10:10 ? Your Bible says Jesus body was his offering for our redemption from sin. Did I not ask you this question: "The Offering you put in your church box, do you collect it from the box after church service? I wrote " the honest answer in your heart, apply it to Hebrews 10:10.. Did I not tell you? Bros, You love FALSEHOOD too much |
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