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Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by advocatejare(m): 3:11pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
Muslims always claim that Muhammad didn't discrimate against anyone and that he treated Bilal a blackman good. All those are false. Below is an example of such
Muhammad discriminated against black people. Muhammad equated two black slaves as one non-black slaves. What discrimination is more than that? Sahih Muslim Book 010, Number 3901: Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported: There came a slave and pledg- ed allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man) Bilal was one of the most prominent and trusted companions of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) after he set him free from his former master.Muhammad didn't set Bilal free from his former master, rather he bought Bilal from his former master and then made him his slave and Bilal remained Muhammad's slave till Muhammad died after which Abu Bakr then bought him and set him free. Bilal said to Abu Bakr, "If you have bought me for yourself then keep me (for yourself), but if you have bought me for Allah's Sake, then leave me for Allah's Work." -Sahih Bukhari 5:57:99 Umar used to say, [/b]"Abu Bakr is our chief, and he manumitted our chief," meaning Bilal.[/b] -Sahih Bukhari 5:57:98 Antichristian, Empiree and Thatfairguy1 all these are from your Sahih ahadith, do you have a contrary view? 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by NeoWanZaeed(m): 4:04pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
laughing... who's this mumu.. Islam has rulings on slaves. the only thing that can emancipate a slave is if he's a Muslim and his master is a Muslim too. a kafir can be the master of a Muslim and he has obligations on him.. go read all hadiths on slave obligations and come back to comment it has nothing to do with race 1 Like |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by illicit(m): 5:00pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
any body that support slavery is mad.... 3 Likes |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by advocatejare(m): 5:21pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
NeoWanZaeed:If you're sure of yourself and you're truly a Muslim give us the reference from authentic sources about your claims 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by NeoWanZaeed(m): 5:23pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
advocatejare: go to play store.. download Hadith go to search bar type in keyword SLAVE. READ EVERY HADITH ON IT 1 Like |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by advocatejare(m): 6:33pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
NeoWanZaeed:You have disappointed your religion for not be able to defend it ![]() 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by NeoWanZaeed(m): 6:33pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
advocatejare: I don't discuss with twerp .. 1 Like |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by advocatejare(m): 9:56pm On Oct 29, 2020 |
NeoWanZaeed: For failing to defend your religion and your Prophet , you will not get the virgins Allah promised his followers to be having sex with till eternity because you're not worthy anymore You'll be one of the young boys made eternal that will be servicing men in Islamic paradise. يَطُوفُ عَلَيْهِمْ وِلْدٰنٌ مُّخَلَّدُونَ "There will circulate among them young boys made eternal" (QS. Al-Waaqia 56: Verse 17) 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by AntiChristian: 6:28am On Oct 30, 2020 |
advocatejare: Here are some Biblical Slave verses from Yahweh Jehovah 1. Permission to sell Slaves. However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. Leviticus 25:44-46 How do you define racism again? This is too much! 2. Ruling on selling your daughter as a slave When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. Exodus 21:7-11 No wonder Christians don't use most of these verses anymore! How can we be selling our Children? 3. A slave is his owners property... When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. Exodus 21:7-11 So as you can see, if the slave doesn't die, then there is no punishment, it is just a loss for the owner since the slave is too hurt to work! WOW! So this means, you can hurt your slave as much as you want, just make sure IT doesn't die, and the reason I say IT is because it is clear the Bible regards slaves as mere processions, an object, like land, and not a human being. So as you can see, the Bible's slavery in the OT is no different than the slavery inflicted upon black people by white Americans and white Europeans, they got these racist slavery attitudes straight from the bible, even the Biblical commentator said they are the same! So here are the Questions that need answers! 1. Abraham married Sarah and took Slave Hagar as what? Concubine, wife, others Please mention...…………. 2. Who authorised those laws above? 3. Did the Person in 2 above change his mind now? 4. Was Jesus' position on slavery different from His father's bearing in mind that: Jesus gave them this answer: "Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. John 5:19 5. Are there any verse(s) from Genesis to Revelation that recommends freeing of slaves whatsoever back then? 6. If Jehovah did authorised those laws can He be called all those unprintable names advocatejare, sagenaija and agentnairaland call Muhammad (salallahu alayhi wa salam)? Slaves in Islam are treated fairly and better than the biblical slavery 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by advocatejare(m): 7:08am On Oct 30, 2020 |
AntiChristian: You've not told us how other Prophets of God sold and bought humans like commodities like Muhammad did and why Muhammad refused to set Bilal free just because he feels black people worth less than non blacks Sahih Muslim Book 010, Number 3901: Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported: There came a slave and pledg- ed allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man) Come and see how Muhammad the slave trader sold humans like commodities "Narrated Jabir: The Prophet (ﷺ) came to know that one of his companions had given the promise of freeing his slave after his death, but as he had no other property than that slave, the Prophet (ﷺ) sold that slave for 800 dirhams and sent the price to him." -Sahih Bukhari 9:89:296 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by true2god: 12:41pm On Oct 30, 2020 |
Bilal was mohammed's time keeper and cock crow anytime he want to do a call to prayer. Bilal is the islamic house negro, who instead of doing dirty jobs like working at the mill, doing farm work, singing for his slave master, etc, hang around mohammed and his sahabas and doing light jobs. The buttom-line remains that he was among the numerous black slaves mohammed owned and used for his day to day works. The arabs now want to present Bilal in a positive light as if they are doing black people favour by enslaving Bilal. Nonsense. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by advocatejare(m): 1:00pm On Oct 30, 2020 |
true2god: Bilal was the slave only worthy of doing the work meant for bells, it wasn't in anyway a honorable job for him, it was because Muhammad didn't want to use bell to announce prayer time that was why he ORDERED Bilal the Blackman to the the work of a bell Narrated Anas: The people mentioned the fire and the bell (as means proposed for announcing the time of prayer) and by such a suggestion they referred to the Jews and the Christians. But Bilal was ordered, "Pronounce the words of the Adhan (i.e. call for the prayer) twice and the Iqama once only." Sahih Bukhari 4:55:663 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by true2god: 1:05pm On Oct 30, 2020 |
advocatejare:That's why I called him Mohammed's rooster crow. He was nevertheless a house Nigga who usually hang aroung mohammed and his sahabas. In Islam, it is a great privilege for a black slave to hang around mohammed and his sahabas. Black slaves are meant to be doing the dirtiest of the jobs for their arab slave masters. The arabs always use house nigga Bilal to market Islam to the black people and the blacks will not even see the insult being shoved on their throat. 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by advocatejare(m): 1:12pm On Oct 30, 2020 |
true2god: You're right The so called revelation on how to recite the call to prayer was revealed to someone else not even Muhammad. If it was a honorable job why didn't the person who received the revelation take up the job, why give it to a black slave : It was narrated from Salim, from his father, that: The Prophet consulted the people as to how he could call them to the prayer. They suggested a horn, but he disliked that because of the Jews (because the Jews used a horn). Then they suggested a bell but he disliked that because of the Christians (because the Christians used a bell). Then that night the call to the prayer was shown in a dream to a man among the Ansar whose name was 'Abdullah bin Zaid, and to 'Umar bin Khattab. The Ansari man came to the Messenger of Allah at night, and the Messenger of Allah commanded Bilal to give the call to the prayer. (Da'if)Zuhri said: "Bilal added the phrase "As-salatu khairum minan-nawm (the prayer is better than sleep)" to the call for the morning prayer, and the Messenger of Allah approved of that." 'Umar said: "O Messenger of Allah, I saw the same as he did, but he beat me to it." - : Sunan Ibn Majah 707 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by true2god: 1:17pm On Oct 30, 2020 |
advocatejare:Islam is a joke mhen! Are you sure this is not a 'weak and fabricated' hadith? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by advocatejare(m): 1:27pm On Oct 30, 2020 |
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Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by OyedejiIfedayo: 11:32am On Dec 07, 2020 |
advocatejare: You keep on digging to devalue islam. I don't know why you do it but I like it because it forces me to vigorously learn more about the religion. But, you are biased, partial and not just by the weight of an atom. This is because the unbelievable things in Christianity (which you defended on some threads) are also too bad. If you are truly proving to be an unbiased researcher about the falsehood and truths of religion, you won't claim Christianity. I would appreciate your words if you claim atheism but most of your threads claims Christianity. I would also not have accused you as bias if I didn't spot some of your misunderstanding about the religion. Can u prove the existence of God? How's Jesus God? Why didn't God make us all same religion since he created us? You should sit here arguing as one theology prof instead of you to think whether your book that told you of regret of God in genesis would give you the salvation you claim. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by advocatejare(m): 1:40pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
OyedejiIfedayo:So showing what the authentic hadith talks about is devaluing? They shouldn't have included it in their books if they don't want us to see it I'm here to promote Christianity, be free to promote Islam or atheism, just be ready to defend yourself because we will expose your lies Can u prove the existence of God?I'm not here to prove anything to you, if you choose to deny God that's your headache. How's Jesus God?Jesus is not God Why didn't God make us all same religion since he created us?God didn't create humans as zombies, he gave you freewill, you can do whatever you like, but there will be consequences. Just like humans too, your govt has made laws, if you obey them, you wont have problems but if you break the laws you'll either be jailed or face whatever the consequences are, so it's left to you. |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 3:08pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
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Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 3:26pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
^^^^ This is fake and fraudulent religion you want to promote?. Your Christianity founder was a liar and fraudster but you called him "apostle"? ![]() ![]() |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 4:19pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
advocatejare:White Christians are still enslaving Black Africans and you are here discussing centuries old texts to tarnish Islam. Here are text that proved Islam set slaves free.
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Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 4:27pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
advocatejare:I have plenty of this like iyepe. You can never defame Islam.
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Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 4:29pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
advocatejare:you want some more?
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Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 4:55pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
advocatejare:This is a Knockout. Say whatever you want. This is the last message of the prophet muhammad (peace be upon him)
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Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by advocatejare(m): 5:17pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Empiree:I can see that your ass is on fire. Instead of writing all these nonsense. It would have made sense if you can show the proof that your false Prophet Muhammad did not trade slave or own slaves. Show this from your authentic hadith and we move on 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 5:32pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
advocatejare:what did I post, Bible or Hadith?. They didn't trade slaves in your Bible? |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by advocatejare(m): 5:36pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Empiree: Liar, why didn't you tell us the source of that quote. Muhammad that was a man of hate. His last words were that of hatred and racism Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying:Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it. -Sahih muslim 2167a Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab: That the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: If I live - if Allah wills - I will expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula. -Jami at-tirmidhi 1606 Jabir bin ‘Abd Allah said that he was told by ‘Umar bin Al Khattab that he heard the Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) say “I will certainly expel the Jews and the Christians from Arabia and I shall leave only Muslims in it.” -Sunan Abi Dawud 3030 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by advocatejare(m): 5:38pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Empiree: 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by advocatejare(m): 5:41pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Empiree:Jesus is the perfect example the Christians, he didn't own slaves or traded slaves. Muhammad is the perfect example for Muslims, and he traded slaves and owned slaves 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 5:45pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
advocatejare:I don't owe you anything but you can go and kill yourself over this Source: al-Mustadrak 289 Shu’ab al-Imān 4706 Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 6403, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 66 |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by advocatejare(m): 5:48pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Empiree:You're the one that will kill yourself like Muhammad who died of poison from atenuje because he didn't have self control. Atenuje lopa Muhammad 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Bilal The Blackman Was Never Set Free By Prophet Muhammad by Empiree: 5:50pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
advocatejare:slave trades existed during Jewish reign right?. slave trades existed before and during Jesus, right? Slave trades existed before Muhammad right? So if slavery existed before Muhammad, how come your Bible writers skipped slave trading history in connection with Jesus and then slavery appeared again in the time of the prophet muhammad?. Who was fooling who?. Why are Christian historians being untruthful for skipping slave trades record in the time of Jesus yet, they documented slavery in the Bible?. 1 Like 1 Share |
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