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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 9:15pm On Oct 29, 2020
salford:

I did. It's public knowledge. If you can't see the irony in that statement, then I can't help ya.

He was right. The GOP is now a house divided against itself.
No they are more united. We get the real GOP and the RINO the GOP was dead before trump. Their last two presidential nominee was a clear indication. John McCain and Romney.
Nobody liked trump at first but they bought the ticket and now he is holding the party well and if anyone still want to do that career politician crap they are primaried. Gorge bush and Obama and Clinton are one and the same. Career politician. I see the GOP winning next week, win more senate seats and in 4years retain the white house

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 9:22pm On Oct 29, 2020
bayelsaowei:
nope you are arguing with emotions like you're envisaging a trump loss.

Its just few days to the elections. Let all and sundry keep voting. What can you do about your complaints other than suggesting a rigging of the election if biden wins.

Right from the onset the republicans have been running around mail-in voting, going to court and trying to even discourage people altogether from voting via a constitutional means.

Left for you or even the president citizens shouldn't even vote via the subject method.

You are complaining whilst others are voting.

I stand by my submission that voting is predominantly free from any malpractice and being carried out constitutionally..I am right and you know.
Hmmm. I don't get emotional over arguments. You have known me for more that a decade and you and I argue a lot... You have never seen me emotional about any argument so this is a projection.

We all know what the courts are for, they see something that does not look good they go to court.

I have made my case for you that they should be trying to perfect mail-in voting. Na you they make case for fraud. I made case that both sides have been doing fraud so I am not being partisan here... Na you they Make am about dem and rep.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 9:22pm On Oct 29, 2020
salford:

I did. It's public knowledge. If you can't see the irony in that statement, then I can't help ya.

He was right. The GOP is now a house divided against itself.

He is not that bright to get the message afterall!

I don't know why the bayelsaowei guy is wasting his time going back and forth with him.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 9:46pm On Oct 29, 2020
see them,awon party of jesus christ

Two prominent evangelical Trump advisers square off over alleged Holocaust survivor scam

Two members of President Trump’s evangelical advisory group are locked in a nasty legal dispute involving allegations of a multimillion-dollar Holocaust fundraising scam.

Mike Evans, a Texas author and Christian Zionist activist, this summer filed a federal lawsuit against Jentezen Franklin, a Georgia megachurch pastor who has been featured at Trump campaign events. The two men in 2017 had launched a fundraising project to benefit Holocaust survivors in Israel and raised millions for the cause, but Evans’s suit alleges Franklin turned over only $1.2 million — withholding more than $3.3 million he’d raised.

“We regretfully have not been given any options, in that Franklin has used our work to fundraise and has refused to send the money,” Evans wrote The Washington Post on Wednesday, alleging Franklin acted “exploitatively” toward survivors.

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The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia, accuses Franklin of fraud and conspiracy, and alleges Franklin was “trading on Evans’ personal reputation and credibility in Israel” and using him to meet influential Israelis.

Franklin is head of the 14,000-member Free Chapel church, based in Gainesville, Ga.

Evans’s accusations are “absurdly false,” Darrell D. Miller, an attorney representing Franklin and Free Chapel, told The Post in a statement. “Our clients have not misappropriated a single penny from Mike Evans, his organization or any other charitable endeavors."

In a September motion to dismiss Evans’s suit, Franklin argued that whatever agreement the two men had was not an enforceable contract and that Evans would have no standing to sue anyway because any money was meant for Holocaust survivors and not Evans. Franklin said in the motion that he has visited Israel on his own for years, donated to other charitable projects there, has his own networks in Israel and didn’t need Evans.

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“The value received by Pastor Franklin and his ministry is the knowledge that they are doing God’s work,” the motion reads.

Evans and his lawyers, the motion continues, “contend that any Christian ministry that agrees to participate in a humanitarian project abroad must continue to do so even if other humanitarian needs are greater in different parts of the world.”

One of Franklin’s lawyers, Andrew Brettler, told The Post that the millions raised by Franklin went to Evans, fundraising costs and other groups in Israel working on similar causes.

Several members of Trump’s advisory board, according to Evans, reached out to offer to help him settle the suit with Franklin. The board is an informal group of evangelicals who advise a president they see as supportive of their key causes: minimal oversight and limits on religious organizations, social conservatism, and support for Israel’s government.

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Evans and his lawyer told The Post there is no written contract; their suit characterizes the deal as “valid and enforceable.” Franklin’s motion says there simply was no contract but instead an “unenforceable agreement.” The project is attached to a Jerusalem museum that Evans runs to promote non-Jewish supporters of Israel. The museum is called Friends of Zion and is a campus of eight or nine buildings.

The two men have been advisers on Trump’s evangelicals-only faith advisory body since 2016, and Franklin’s son, Drake, serves as faith outreach director for the Trump campaign.

Starting in 2017, Franklin advertised and fundraised on his website and through his televangelism ministry, Kingdom Connections, for Holocaust survivors. The ads used images of Evans’s property or showed images of the two men together touring in Jerusalem.

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The men’s relationship turned sour in the summer of 2019, Evans says. That is when a representative of Franklin’s church, according to an email exchange provided by Evans’s attorney Nir Kimhi, emailed Kimhi with a list of donors whose names Franklin wanted put on a “donor wall” at the museum.

“Please see attached names for Holocaust Survivors Wall,” reads the email from an employee at Free Chapel.

Attached to the email were Excel spreadsheets listing 4,216 donors who gave $1,000 and 33 who gave $10,000, for a total of more than $4.5 million.

Realizing Franklin had raised far more than he knew, Evans demanded the rest of the money, according to the lawsuit and letters between lawyers for the two sides this spring. A June 2020 letter from one of Franklin’s lawyers to Evans’s characterizes their deal differently, saying Franklin initially agreed to give Evans $1 million and wound up giving him $1.2 million, and that the remainder of funds went to creating ads and buying television airtime for them for many months.

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In exchange, “he received Mr. Evans’ true show of gratitude in the form of the erroneous and baseless claims made in your letter,” wrote attorney Anthony Kennedy. A simple thank you “would have sufficed.”

Evans and his lawyers say the men’s agreement from the start was that all fundraising related to survivors would go to Churches United With Israel, a Texas nonprofit Evans runs. Evans launched the new Jerusalem project through Churches United, according to his July lawsuit.

Evans’s suit also accuses Franklin of falsely claiming in his ads that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was behind his work with survivors.

In a promotional fundraising video for money for survivors, Franklin says Netanyahu and his wife know about his work, “and even have sent special messages to us to let us know that this is their very heart.”

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A source in Netanyahu’s office told The Post that the prime minister was not aware his name was being used by Franklin to raise money and that he had not endorsed Franklin’s work.

In June, Franklin also began running a fundraising video and a blog item on his site featuring the prime minister’s son, Yair Netanyahu, distributing care packages to survivors. The video, entitled “Yair Netanyahu delivers care packages to Holocaust Survivors for Jentezen Franklin,” is set to somber music and shows a masked Netanyahu bringing boxes with “Jentezen Franklin” stickers to emotionally moved survivors.

Sources close to Yair Netanyahu told The Post he was unaware he was being used to fundraise for Franklin. He was volunteering for Yad Ezer, the sources said, and hadn’t intend to endorse Franklin.

Brettler said Franklin was working with fundraising materials from Yad Ezer that included the Netanyahus.

Shimon Sabag, chairman of Yad Ezer, the country’s largest residence for Holocaust survivors, told The Post in a letter that the group was unaware until recently that the two men had a dispute and that both are “righteous, faithful and devoted.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2020/10/29/trump-evangelical-advisors-jentezen-franklin-mike-evans-holocaust-survivors/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1fcJavmOrKBxudvc7MzXxIqmCXFPmVxiW7Ge1xNOM758wf4i5mlQ6D87Q

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:46pm On Oct 29, 2020
Even in the UK there are complains of malpractice with mail in but however no data has proven to show that it occurs at a level equal to or above any other form of voting.

Is it possible there could be malpractice via the method yes is the answer. Has it happened before, yes is also the answer. Should voting by mail even with the new measures be brought down because of an envisaged inconsequential number of errors or a party to be blamed for rigging the elections? HELL NO.

Point is: there is no voting method that is not susceptible to fraud..there is no water tight voting method. If errors from mail in ballots are infinitesimal to the whole electoral process (which it definitely is) why are republicans running amok around the courts to stop em?

Just desperate individuals...

And benalvino this is my last statement. You can continue to argue whilst americans vote constitutionally.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by minnet: 9:49pm On Oct 29, 2020

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bayelsaowei(m): 9:54pm On Oct 29, 2020
Because of trump suddenly constitutional ways of voting is now a problem..because of trump..just pure madness.

Na only america them dey vote by mail?

Nonsense.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bayelsaowei(m): 10:02pm On Oct 29, 2020
ObaIgwe1:


He is not that bright to get the message afterall!

I don't know why the bayelsaowei guy is wasting his time going back and forth with him.

I just have to continue with my brother to argue some issues..how can someone be envisaging what will not happen. No electoral process is perfect. And in america compared to 3rd World countries election malpractices or errors are infinitesimal in comparison to the whole. So I wonder what benalvino wants.

Trump will win if he is loved and will lose if he isnt.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Kophschmerzen: 10:05pm On Oct 29, 2020
bayelsaowei:
Because of trump suddenly constitutional ways of voting is now a problem..because of trump..just pure madness.

Na only america them dey vote by mail?

Nonsense.

Please stop letting that fool troll you my man.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 10:10pm On Oct 29, 2020
salford:

Soothsayer below:

He saw it coming.. The problem people have with Lindsey was that he later bowed.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford: 10:11pm On Oct 29, 2020
bayelsaowei:
I just have to continue with my brother to argue some issues..how can someone be envisaging what will not happen. No electoral process is perfect. And in america compared to 3rd World countries election malpractices or errors are infinitesimal in comparison to the whole. So I wonder what benalvino wants.

Trump will win if he is loved and will lose if he isnt.

You get time Sha..A GOP election lawyer debunked Trump's claim, but the umudike republicans think otherwise.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by descarado: 10:15pm On Oct 29, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thjPLOt2T68


What a caricature of a lady.
AA tout.
Zero mannerisms
Spit.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford: 10:19pm On Oct 29, 2020
Trump hires the best people my a55.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtUwq_rdo38

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 10:20pm On Oct 29, 2020
Kophschmerzen:


Please stop letting that fool troll you my man.
Hahaha ok. I didnt know me telling you to take a nap gets under your skin grin grin grin You are my bro i only want to see you have a rest so your brain can function

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 10:25pm On Oct 29, 2020
ObaIgwe1:


He is not that bright to get the message afterall!

I don't know why the bayelsaowei guy is wasting his time going back and forth with him.

I think they are friends. That's the only thing I can think of because the cultist makes no sense and how can you convert or change the mind of a cultist.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 10:25pm On Oct 29, 2020
GOP is finished!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 10:32pm On Oct 29, 2020
As at 4.32pm Central Time, over 81 million Americans have voted already and the polling stations are not even closed yet. Trump will smell his diaper wearing rear on late evening of Nov 3rd or early morning of Nov 4th.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 10:32pm On Oct 29, 2020
bayelsaowei:
Because of trump suddenly constitutional ways of voting is now a problem..because of trump..just pure madness.

Na only america them dey vote by mail?

Nonsense.

America has been using the mail in ballot system for many years now and nobody tried discrediting this much till Trump came around, when we say he is a threat to America's democracy some people will still ask how.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 10:35pm On Oct 29, 2020
bayelsaowei:
Even in the UK there are complains of malpractice with mail in but however no data has proven to show that it occurs at a level equal to or above any other form of voting.

Is it possible there could be malpractice via the method yes is the answer. Has it happened before, yes is also the answer. Should voting by mail even with the new measures be brought down because of an envisaged inconsequential number of errors or a party to be blamed for rigging the elections? HELL NO.

Point is: there is no voting method that is not susceptible to fraud... there is no water tight voting method. If errors from mail in ballots are infinitesimal to the whole electoral process (which it definitely is) why are republicans running amok around the courts to stop em?

Just desperate individuals...

And benalvino this is my last statement. You can continue to argue whilst Americans vote constitutionally.


did I show you an election yesterday that needs to be redone because of fraud? guess what they voted constitutionally and fraud still happen. we all know what signatures are for. when they say signature don't matter... guess what it becomes easier to cheat. they are suppose to be making it hard to cheat not easy. they can vote with mail and i want Dems to vote with mail because we know all the problems with it. at the end of the day 20million can vote only 14 or 17 million will be valid or get to the destination.

I dnt know how else i want to explain to you because i genuine think you are not being honest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJO4YwSCSPI
Yes or No?
you they post something from UK when we are talking about US.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 10:48pm On Oct 29, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
As at 4.32pm Central Time, over 81 million Americans have voted already and the polling stations are not even closed yet. Trump will smell his diaper wearing rear on late evening of Nov 3rd or early morning of Nov 4th.


It's almost game time.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 10:57pm On Oct 29, 2020
CoronaVirusRelo:



It's almost game time.

I will comfortably say, the game is over for President $750.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 11:01pm On Oct 29, 2020
sanpipita:


America has been using the mail in ballot system for many years now and nobody tried discrediting this much till Trump came around, when we say he is a threat to America's democracy some people will still ask how.

not even to this scale. there is a reason why trump say rep should vote in person
read this from NPR
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/22/904693468/more-than-550-000-primary-absentee-ballots-rejected-in-2020-far-outpacing-2016

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:05pm On Oct 29, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
I will comfortably say, the game is over for President $750.

That's guaranteed.

The celebration and jubilation I pray I witness.

That feel of relief I want to experience.

And our names will be written in the history books that " During the reign of The worst President of The United States of America, some men stood their grounds. They never wavered and neither did fear conquer them. Their struggles and perseverance lead this great country to everlasting freedom. And that we reap today"

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 11:30pm On Oct 29, 2020
Spot on. Evil thrives when good people are silent.
The Owners of the country will take their country back starting Nov 3rd.
CoronaVirusRelo:


That's guaranteed.

The celebration and jubilation I pray I witness.

That feel of relief I want to experience.

And our names will be written in the history books that " During the reign of The worst President of The United States of America, some men stood their grounds. They never wavered and neither did fear conquer them. Their struggles and perseverance lead this great country to everlasting freedom. And that we reap today"

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by MaziAlaye(m): 11:42pm On Oct 29, 2020
I'm sure some people won't go down well with this, buh I just want to let you know the greatest rapper of all time knows best.. if e pain you.............

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 11:48pm On Oct 29, 2020
MaziAlaye:
I'm sure some people won't go down well with this, buh I just want to let you know the greatest rapper of all time knows best.. if e pain you.............
Boom!!!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 12:01am On Oct 30, 2020
kiss kiss kiss

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 12:11am On Oct 30, 2020
bayelsaowei:
I just have to continue with my brother to argue some issues..how can someone be envisaging what will not happen. No electoral process is perfect. And in america compared to 3rd World countries election malpractices or errors are infinitesimal in comparison to the whole. So I wonder what benalvino wants.

Trump will win if he is loved and will lose if he isnt.


You are wasting your time. Trump followers only believe Trump's words as facts, they love whoever Trump loves and hate whoever Trump hates. They are incapable of accepting facts or sound logical reasoning. They don't believe in science or statistics except only when it suits their narrative. That is why they are called cultists.

If you engage them from now till ever, you will not achieve anything no matter the volumes of facts and evidences you submit.

Save your time and sanity, and avoid arguing or debating with them. The good news is that they are in the minority no matter how much noise they make.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 12:23am On Oct 30, 2020
obixcel:
Boom!!!
Midget, I am not a fan of rappers but who told you the midget brother of yours is the best rapper of all time. Go back to sleep in your unlit mosquitoes filled smelly one room mansion in Abuja.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 12:24am On Oct 30, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
Midget, I am not a fan of rappers but who told you the midget brother of yours is the best rapper of all time. Go back to sleep in your unlit mosquitoes filled smelly one room mansion in Abuja.

grin grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 12:33am On Oct 30, 2020
“My dad used to have an expression. He’d say, ‘A father knows he’s a success when he turns and looks at his son or daughter and knows that they turned out better than he did.’”

Joe Biden

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 12:38am On Oct 30, 2020
That was how the world thought It was game over for Trump in 2016 untill the final result was pronounced.

The shocker will be massive. grin

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