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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:07pm On Oct 31, 2020
bayelsaowei:
trump abhors social distancing by gathering crowds for rallies. If those persons go ahead to contract covid 19 of which such instances has happened who do we blame? A whole leader who should drive covid 19 protocols down talks the virus and even complains the media is taking about it..what should a media house talk about more other than a pandemic ravishing the planet..?

When you become a manager of teams come back and continue leadership discussion with me.

When things go wrong whereever and whenever leaders know the buck stops on their table. For trump not to be in alignment with the opposition and being able to manage their expectations and also find a balance for all to work well for the benefit of the Americans shows he has failed as a leader and manager.

Like I tell you once you manage people you would understand this better. THE BUCK STOPS AT YOUR TABLE.

You didn't say anything when the media and dems along with other socalled scientist were asking people to go out and Riot and protesting you didn't say anything about social distancing instead you supported it. You have to be consistent

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sexylassie2(f): 4:09pm On Oct 31, 2020
The Great Barrington Declaration

https://gbdeclaration.org/

The Great Barrington Declaration – As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.

Coming from both the left and right, and around the world, we have devoted our careers to protecting people. Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health. The results (to name a few) include lower childhood vaccination rates, worsening cardiovascular disease outcomes, fewer cancer screenings and deteriorating mental health – leading to greater excess mortality in years to come, with the working class and younger members of society carrying the heaviest burden. Keeping students out of school is a grave injustice.

Keeping these measures in place until a vaccine is available will cause irreparable damage, with the underprivileged disproportionately harmed.

Fortunately, our understanding of the virus is growing. We know that vulnerability to death from COVID-19 is more than a thousand-fold higher in the old and infirm than the young. Indeed, for children, COVID-19 is less dangerous than many other harms, including influenza.

As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e. the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity.

The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection.

Adopting measures to protect the vulnerable should be the central aim of public health responses to COVID-19. By way of example, nursing homes should use staff with acquired immunity and perform frequent PCR testing of other staff and all visitors. Staff rotation should be minimized. Retired people living at home should have groceries and other essentials delivered to their home. When possible, they should meet family members outside rather than inside. A comprehensive and detailed list of measures, including approaches to multi-generational households, can be implemented, and is well within the scope and capability of public health professionals.

Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal. Simple hygiene measures, such as hand washing and staying home when sick should be practiced by everyone to reduce the herd immunity threshold. Schools and universities should be open for in-person teaching. Extracurricular activities, such as sports, should be resumed. Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:11pm On Oct 31, 2020
For some reason my bro thinks leadership is all about taking responsibility even if it's not your fault. I don't know anything about leadership I gree but I know that if someone wrongly accused you of something that is not your fault you should take it. Shekina
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:12pm On Oct 31, 2020
benalvino3:

That organization is useless and in the pocket of China. Let China fund them
so I ask you..what value did it add to the US right in middle of a pandemic? Zilch.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:12pm On Oct 31, 2020
benalvino3:

And bayelsaowei is asking me if trump has talked to them directly grin make you no make me laugh jor
there are genuine protesters who were protesting as a result of the georges death..those are the people I am talking about.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 4:13pm On Oct 31, 2020
I don't even want to waste my time here arguing. I'll come back to mock all the Trump supporters after Biden is elected grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:14pm On Oct 31, 2020
bayelsaowei:
so I ask you..what value did it add to the US right in middle of a pandemic? Zilch.

Wrong question. You should be asking what was the value US was getting from the WHO when they were paying that money to them.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:16pm On Oct 31, 2020
bayelsaowei:
there are genuine protesters who were protesting as a result of the georges death..those are the people I am talking about.
Hmm and Trump said they should peacefully protest. If they are genuinely protesting and peacefully why should he ask them to stop?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:16pm On Oct 31, 2020
benalvino3:

You didn't say anything when the media and dems along with other socalled scientist were asking people to go out and Riot and protesting you didn't say anything about social distancing instead you supported it. You have to be consistent
I supported the protest not violence..

And what I expected a reasonable president to do was talk to his citizens and ensure covid 19 protocols are observed even with the protest. Or manage the situation better via solidarity and empathetic gestures. NO..he even made it worse.

Is it not the same thing we saw with buharis handling of the end sars protest? Just come out and talk to your people as a leader. Quell the anxieties of the masses. Thats what leaders do..like I tell you trump isn't a leader.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:18pm On Oct 31, 2020
bayelsaowei:
so I ask you..what value did it add to the US right in middle of a pandemic? Zilch.

There was no value when the WHO was helping China spread the virus all over the world. The moment you remove trump that is the time you will understand that the WHO lied to the world allowing this pandemic. So what was the value then? Why still fund them when they are helping a communist regime spread virus. Why are we even arguing about this

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 4:19pm On Oct 31, 2020
benalvino3:
You see rioters Riot and destroy cities. Media will say it's peaceful and celebrities and Biden campaign will bail out people arrested for Rioting. Governors and mayor will tell police to stand back. When trump say he will send national guard in to stop it. They threaten with lawsuit. Call him dictator.

When he stops talking media will say look at what is happening to trump America.

Owei. Tell me... Is this his fault too because he is the president of the nation? Pls answer this question
Trump is not the first republican president. You know.

According to you, only Trump can save America from Trump's AmeriKKKa

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:20pm On Oct 31, 2020
benalvino3:

Wrong question. You should be asking what was the value US was getting from the WHO when they were paying that money to them.
and I ask you back what effect has withdrawing funds had on the US? Who is loosing more now?

And for you to ask what the US has been benefiting from WHo and its support for world health for decades must be an ignorant question..dont think because you support trump then you must forget the importance of some of these functions to the government and the world.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:20pm On Oct 31, 2020
bayelsaowei:
I supported the protest not violence..

And what I expected a reasonable president to do was talk to his citizens and ensure covid 19 protocols are observed even with the protest. Or manage the situation better via solidarity and empathetic gestures. NO..he even made it worse.

Is it not the same thing we saw with buharis handling of the end sars protest? Just come out and talk to your people as a leader. Quell the anxieties of the masses. Thats what leaders do..like I tell you trump isn't a leader.
Because of how bad you dislike this guy you don't even know. Most of the times you are arguing from ignorance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKxLp_TV8VY

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:22pm On Oct 31, 2020
salford1:

Trump is not the first republican president. You know.

According to you, only Trump can save America from Trump's AmeriKKKa
Lol... Talking about race

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 4:24pm On Oct 31, 2020
benalvino3:
For some reason my bro thinks leadership is all about taking responsibility even if it's not your fault. I don't know anything about leadership I gree but I know that if someone wrongly accused you of something that is not your fault you should take it. Shekina
You know zilch about leadership. Were you not all quick to blame Buhari for riots during the SARS protest?

There is a reason why CEOs earn big bucks. When something goes wrong, they take responsibility of any disaster that happened under their watch even though they might not be directly involved.

Trump however, not only did not take responsibility, he added fuel to the GF riots. And for covid, he is took no responsibility, downplayed the virus even though he knew it was deadly. Said the virus would magically go away, told trumptards to resist lockdown(liberate Michigan and co). Suggested that people inject bleach, said Covid affects virtually no one despite over 200k deaths e.t.c. Trump was the number one spreader of misinformation with regards to Covid.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:26pm On Oct 31, 2020
benalvino3:

Because of how bad you dislike this guy you don't even know. Most of the times you are arguing from ignorance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKxLp_TV8VY
can you play subsequent videos? grin you do know this is the trump that they usually coerce to do the right thing..shey after this speech him true colors come out.

Is it not the same nicompoop that ensured he undermined the very reason (racial discrimination) the protesters were protesting in the first place..its almost like when trump was encouraged to hold daily briefings on covid 19 until his ignorant/mumu traits showed up and he sidelined fauci and refused to adhere to every single covid 19 protocol.

We know trump..its not him to lead..

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 4:27pm On Oct 31, 2020
benalvino3:

Lol... Talking about race
This applies to all races in America and not just the black race. The cartoon has no meaning. cheesy

Those guys below from the Appalachian south would jump on those things you listed in your cartoon. They are not black you know.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bayelsaowei(m): 4:27pm On Oct 31, 2020
salford1:

You know zilch about leadership. Were you not all quick to blame Buhari for riots during the SARS protest?

There is a reason why CEOs earn big bucks. When something goes wrong, they take responsibility of any disaster that happened under their watch even though they might not be directly involved.

Trump however, not only did not take responsibility, he added fuel to the GF riots. And for covid, he is took no responsibility, downplayed the virus even though he knew it was deadly. Said the virus would magically go away, told trumptards to resist lockdown(liberate Michigan and co). Suggested that people inject bleach, said Covid affects virtually no one despite over 200k deaths e.t.c
thats why I told him to manage leaders of teams then he would understand the true meaning of leadership.

He thinks what trump is doing or the way he acts is normal. ..manage people as a leader and start doing the blame game and see who will take the individual seriously.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 4:35pm On Oct 31, 2020
Trump supporters are now attacking Biden buses in Texas.
From 'we' are winning in landslide to resorting to violence

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 4:37pm On Oct 31, 2020
bayelsaowei:
I supported the protest not violence..

And what I expected a reasonable president to do was talk to his citizens and ensure covid 19 protocols are observed even with the protest. Or manage the situation better via solidarity and empathetic gestures. NO..he even made it worse.

Is it not the same thing we saw with buharis handling of the end sars protest? Just come out and talk to your people as a leader. Quell the anxieties of the masses. Thats what leaders do..like I tell you trump isn't a leader.

when POTUS says go n protest does he need to tell you that you need to social distance.
Micro management
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 4:37pm On Oct 31, 2020
sanpipita:
Trump supporters are now attacking Biden buses in Texas.

From 'we' are winning in landslide to resorting to violence
grin grin grin
Sore losers.

The other day, they were intimidating voters on the queue waiting to vote. Trump has brought area boys and agbero politics to the USA.

At the rate Trump is going, EU, UK and Canada would have to intervene in this election. grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sexylassie2(f): 4:40pm On Oct 31, 2020
Liberal film maker Michael Moore, who in 2016 predicted Donald Trump’s electoral victory, is again interfering with the premature celebration over Biden’s victory.

Yesterday, just five days before the election, Moore sounded the alarm, strongly suggesting that the polls showing Biden with a comfortable lead over Trump are not accurate.

In a TV interview Moore said: “The Trump vote is always being undercounted. Pollsters- when they actually call the Trump voter, the Trump voter is very suspicious of the ‘Deep State’ calling them and asking them who they’re voting for.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 4:42pm On Oct 31, 2020
Kamala Harris escorted out of Texas by Trump supporters. Civilised people . Which is supporters to turn blue according to libidiots

https://twitter.com/SomeBitchIKnow/status/1322478395582750720?s=20

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 4:45pm On Oct 31, 2020
basilico:
Kamala Harris escorted out of Texas by Trump supporters. Civilised people .

https://twitter.com/SomeBitchIKnow/status/1322478395582750720?s=20
What they are doing right there is how democracy dies. And you support that action. Anyway, you are from a shithole country, so how would you know better?

Their Nazi tactics won't work. It won't stop a landslide and a blue wave grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 4:47pm On Oct 31, 2020
Apparently the USA Seal team were in Nigeria to rescue a kidnapped American in north Nigeria, hope they didnt rescue a double.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 4:48pm On Oct 31, 2020
sanpipita:
Apparently the USA Seal team were in Nigeria to rescue a kidnapped American in north Nigeria, hope they didnt rescue a double.
Lol. Only when it is authorized by Obama cheesy

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 4:48pm On Oct 31, 2020
salford1:

What they are doing right there is how democracy dies. And you support that action. Anyway, you are from a shithole country, so how would you know better.

I travel a lot. Installing power factor equipment, to save energy from powerline utilities. Nuthin Todo with Climate change.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 4:49pm On Oct 31, 2020
salford1:

grin grin grin
Sore losers.

The other day, they were intimidating voters on the queue waiting to vote. Trump has brought area boys and agbero politics to the USA.

At the rate Trump is going, EU, UK and Canada would have to intervene in this election. grin

Some far right militia groups say they planning to attacks dems on election day, hope American security forces are alert and ready, this is why people are procuring guns already, Trump and his supporters don't want peaceful election

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sexylassie2(f): 4:50pm On Oct 31, 2020
basilico:
Kamala Harris escorted out of Texas by Trump supporters. Civilised people . Which is supporters to turn blue according to libidiots

https://twitter.com/SomeBitchIKnow/status/1322478395582750720?s=20

This is so funny, they escorted her out of the state to her utopia communists kingdom grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 4:50pm On Oct 31, 2020
basilico:


I travel a lot. Installing power factor equipment, to save energy from powerline utilities. Nuthin Todo with Climate change.
Since when do you lot have stable power in Nigeria. Where do you travel to sef, Boko Haram territory in maiduguri? grin
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonianQueen(f): 4:50pm On Oct 31, 2020
sanpipita:
Trump supporters are now attacking Biden buses in Texas.

From 'we' are winning in landslide to resorting to violence
Some of the idiots came from another state.

This is how they lose Texas instead of voting they are behaving lile criminals

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 4:51pm On Oct 31, 2020
sanpipita:


Some far right militia groups say they planning to attacks dems on election day, hope American security forces are alert and ready, this is why people are procuring guns already, Trump and his supporters don't want peaceful election
AmeriKKKa in 2020. cheesy

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