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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Chocs(f): 6:07pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Which still brings me back to the point I stated earlier. I’m talking about general average and not course by course evaluation. There is no need for this back and forth. All the best Backcheck: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Nobody: 6:08pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Exactly. Maybe the issue is with the profession of my parents, I don’t even understand topacs: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Nobody: 6:11pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
@lekiboboe any thoughts sir? Mideyo234: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Chocs(f): 6:15pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Poor grades can actually be a reason for refusal, I’ve seen it a few times. It can make it appear that you’re not a genuine student or you won’t be successful when you get to Canada. Your parents job might also have a role, the gcms stated weak economic and family ties. That points to your family not being well established. You can counter that by submitting more documents from your dad’s job, because the gcms said your dad’s job was just listed. You might want to add documents that show that your family is doing well and you are not running away for a better life. Good bank statements, assets, documents showing they’re doing well in their career etc All the best Mideyo234: 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by JustMellow: 6:17pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Mideyo234: Hello Mideyo234, If you didn't include your academic transcript, then, the fault comes from you for the VO to have been able to know about your poor grade. This may have been given as reason, thinking it will suffice enough to prove your study intent and its importance on why you're embarking to study in all that huge expenses in Canada. In the sentence that the VO mentioned the occupation of you both parents, it meant to be only an acknowledgement of the information and nothing more. You were refused because of home ties, current employment situation in home country and purpose of visit. You may have not been able to argue on the importance, relevance and what necessitated your decision to pursue the specific course in your study plan. On the balance, in your next application, and since you've previously talk about the poor grade, you should strongly argue on how it won't be disserviceable to your study in Canada. Point out your strong academic strength and briefly demonstrate how you have improved as a student. Ultimately, the supporting reason(s) for your refusal is stated by the VO in the last three sentences as "insufficient information," in order to understand your situation and to make an informed-decision. Address your ties economically as a prospect (considering your age) as well as any available ties belonging to your parents. All the best 2 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Nadheer15: 6:19pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
dommakavelli:Would he be able to use that to study? He wants to be with her and at the same time study |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Nadheer15: 6:20pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
JustMellow:Thanks |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Nobody: 6:27pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Thank you so much. Chocs: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Nobody: 6:29pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Thank you!! I added my transcript actually. This is really helpful, thank you. JustMellow: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by JustMellow: 6:29pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Chocs: Hello Chocs, I don't think the VO is concerned about the occupation of the moniker's parents. One love! |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Chocs(f): 6:55pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Hello justmellow, What then could the family and economic ties be referring to? JustMellow: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Lekiboboe: 6:56pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Ivygive:You are welcome Ivy, And Amen!!! thanks for the wishes, I do appreciate 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by dommakavelli: 7:14pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Once he's in Canada, he can apply for a study permit. He should focus on getting into Canada first and spousal sponsorship is very easier than study permit. Nadheer15: 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by dommakavelli: 8:20pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
I wrote an email to my MP to complain about Nairobi Visa office and I got a response. Nairobi Visa office should be able to do better. If you know anyone in Canada, You can ask them to write their MP too. Good luck everyone 2 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Jesusrules24: 8:24pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
What response did you get? Did you get bvland passport request? dommakavelli: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by gustav25: 8:29pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Lekiboboe: Thanks alot .... I just need my transcript to apply for NBcc now. When one is done with the program , what's the odd of getting a job and staying back in Canada ? The only issue giving me pains now is that If successful with the application, I have to wait almost an entire year now . The resumption on the website is September 2021 ![]() ![]() |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by JohnErrin: 8:39pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Hey guys, how do you send additional info to ircc when you have already submitted your application?, i just got the receipt for my school payment and im hoping to use that for my advantage |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Lekiboboe: 9:28pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
gustav25: U welcome Go to the Living In Canada Thread & Ask, HR professionals there would be able to give a detailed response on that (Based on their Experience from Study Route to PR and getting an HR Job) See link below https://www.nairaland.com/4933819/living-canada-life-canadian-immigrant/393 Well it ain't an issue to wait a whole year, The world ain't settled due to COVID-19 Pandemic, many programs in Canada had no choice than to defer to September 2021, cos some Programs can't be done online e.g Medical , Mining, Environmental related programs and some programs has only September intakes So you can use that whole 10-11 months to Prepare yourself for Admission & Study Visa Application. Yes there are PG. Cert. HR programs for May 2021 (Winter) e.g PG. Cert in HR at Cambrian College, Ontario has a Spring 2021 intake, probably you didn't google the schools in the link I sent you See link below, and google the schools https://www.collegesinstitutes.ca/our-members/list-of-degrees/?fwp_search_by_keyword=Human%20Resources%20management&fwp_program_levels=graduate-certificate Though their Tuition is quite on the high side like around $15,000 CAD upward, so NBCC or NSCC seems like your best shot for PG.Cert in HR based on low tuition 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by silvamania: 9:35pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Mideyo234: Hi , I guess the VO’s concern were basically on ; 1. Because of your age and maybe still single . You are mobile and may stay back at Canada . You can tackle that with good home ties and property by parents 2. Your employment prospects after acquiring the degree. You can work on this part too and present practical jobs that you can take with these degree and salary scale of people in that same industry. 3. For the third part about your grade, I think the VO is looking at your grades and he/she is not satisfied that you can cope with cyber security . I think you can tackle this by demonstrating how tough the cyber security certificate you possess was and the work you put into it to acquire such an important degree.How you have improved yourself over the years. You can also demonstrate What you have learnt so far in IT Security All the best bro . We are all in this together .it will end in praises as usual 2 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by dommakavelli: 9:44pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Oh no, I meant I got a response from the MP. I asked them to take the issue up with the minister of immigration and the Nairobi office. I complained about the long wait time for Nigerians and the lack of response to people's webform and inquiry emails. They connected me with the MP office immigration specialist who works with IRCC. I'm just encouraging others to do the same if they know people in Canada. But since you mentioned it, I will give them my brother's info and ask them to contact IRCC and Nairobi on his behalf. If it works, I will share it here. I think someone did the same and got a response. Fingers crossed. Jesusrules24: 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by topacs: 10:16pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Am sorry to differ, the issues raised by the VO are not in line with the law under the IRPA and the IRPRs (subsections 30(1) and (1.1) of the IRPA) a futher look into the law states that IRPRs requires a visa officer to issue a study permit to a foreign national if the individual has established that they: - have applied for a study permit in accordance with the IRPRs; - will leave Canada by the end of the period authorized for their stay; - meet the requirements of Part 12 (Students) of the IRPRs; - have been accepted to undertake a program of study at a designated learning institution (see also subsection 219(1) and the requirement for an acceptance letter from the designated learning institution). An individual who intends to study in Québec must hold a Certificat d’acceptation du Québec (subsection 216(3) of the IRPRs); - have adequate financial resources to pay the tuition fees for the intended study program and to maintain themselves and any family members during the proposed period of study, including payment of all travel costs; - have enrolled and will remain enrolled until completion of their studies; and - will “actively pursue their course or program of study”. It also states that An Officer must reach a reasonable decision and a reasonable decision must not be speculative. The jurisprudence does not allow for speculation; an acceptable decision must be reasonable and explainable I conclude that this is a case where the visa officer err in refusing to grant the Applicant a study visa? and The Officer did not provide any reason to explain why he was not convinced that the Applicant would leave Canada at the end of his authorized stay 1. Poor Grades: What are his reason 2. Parent occupations:And so? that's no reason 3. Given family ties or Economic motives: No reason (How and Why) 4. Course and background not reasonable...This clearly shows that the officer didn't make decision based on the documents before him. My take and advice to the applicant is, Just reapply and pay ur complete fees if possible.. Tweak ur SOP linking ur current Jobs to ur future goals and ambition and y u feel security is an upgrade to networking and give examples.. Researches u've made in other countries and Nigeria and why the Canadian college curriculum stands out among the many schools u analyse. Get ur reference letters, leave request and approval, pay stubs and pensions statements and a possibly a written note from ur employer that u will return to ur Job after studies, if its possible. Above all back ur application with more prayer. Finally u are still very young, with age at ur advantage, It would be better to go tru Express Entry and save yourself all dis plenty headache.. Chocs: 4 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Chocs(f): 10:54pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Hello Topacs, When I write things on here, they’re either 1) facts with proof 2) my opinions (and I always put a disclaimer if this is the case) An individual can be rejected based on poor academic records. See the below picture, it’s from an ex-visa officer saying the same thing. I’m not saying if he applies again, he won’t be approved but he has to give reasons why he’s capable of going for further studies and why and how he’ll be successful. All the best topacs:
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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by topacs: 11:14pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
There;'s no point arguing over this BOSS, this screenshot is just someones idea or opinion which doesn't fall within the armpit of the IRPA and the IRPRs (subsections 30(1) and (1.1) of the IRPA) Law as regards study permits for international applicants, the Visa officers are bounded to stay within the confines of the law which states that a decision must not be speculative, And if they must rely on surrounding facts in determining the outcome of an application that should be done with proper explanation, And dis explains why 70% of most JR cases ends up with out of court settlements and 90% success rate. Like I already advised, the applicant is still very young and should explore the EE route... Lastly I appreciate all the work and efforts you put in to assisting other... Chocs: 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by NwanyiOkpa(f): 11:28pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Good evening everyone. I have a question to ask; would it be okay if i use 1 sponsor (brother) and then also attach affidavit of support from my sister and parents? please i need advice. Thanks |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Oghogho1313: 11:37pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Hi Guys, Where is the best source to get the current exchange rate for CAD to use in converting funds available in NGN to CAD. Different rates for different sources it seems - BDC, Parallel Market, BDC, etc |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Lekiboboe: 11:50pm On Nov 02, 2020 |
Oghogho1313:Google search OANDA, and visit their website |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by vibrant99(m): 12:23am On Nov 03, 2020 |
Sincerely , I must commend what you wrote here , at least for taking time to go and read the constitution of the VO, Kudos ... But let me quickly get you very well... The VO has to look at this laws and just grant Visa ? By now Canada go don full now ... Rules or guidelines which every way you want it written are not constant , Nigerians are applying in Numbers but they have a number they should accept to keep everything at arms length . The student is less than a particular grade , is 100% Valid, most institutions in Canada don’t even look at your grades this days to send you admission letter as long as their school fees in the range oF 15-20KCAd. It is all about the money now. Canada is not a state in Nigeria , if you want to go there you must pass through the necessary procedures and clarification , when they want to reject you , they reject you, if they want to give you ... congratulations. They don’t owe you a visa , You owe them a reason. topacs: 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by UBCcookies: 12:39am On Nov 03, 2020 |
Thanks I'll work with these then. JustMellow: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Nobody: 12:43am On Nov 03, 2020 |
Amen! Thanks a lot for this. silvamania: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Nobody: 12:43am On Nov 03, 2020 |
these visa officers are just funny. but again if you allow many Nigerians the system will be abused as those who are not genuine students will get in and come here to create nuisance. |
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