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Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by payloader(m): 7:54am On Nov 03, 2020
What is "Not fully in support of homosexual union" comment na? Either you're in support, or you condemn it outrightly. He has seen the backlash it has created, now he's looking for a deplomatic way out of it. Guy, you are a secret devil worshipper masquerading as an angel of light.

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Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by Righteousness89(m): 8:00am On Nov 03, 2020
mecusbosco:
Oga what exactly are u saying? Do you Judge them because they are homosexual?

The act of Homosexuality is Evil, abomination and Wickedness...
It Provokes God's Wrath!!
There is no Modification to that!
We don't Hate the People but we Don't modify the act to suit anyone! It is Evil! It angers GOD!
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by Righteousness89(m): 8:01am On Nov 03, 2020
femzybiz:
I like u and your consistency! God bless u real good.
AMEN
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by goodheart02(m): 8:03am On Nov 03, 2020
Davash222:
How can a sane Man leave succulent breasts with fresh thighs accompanied with German juice and decides to settle with flat chest and dry nyash


My brother, the matter tire me. Even this description u give here sef is capable of giving any sane man a hard on
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by tiswell(m): 8:06am On Nov 03, 2020
ursullalinda:
Don't care about those misquoting Pope.......his message is very clear........Show homosexuals love and bring them closer........that way they will be easier to convert.......wonder why people started blabbing nonsense......well don't need to convince anybody........Catholic and proud!
You have been brainwashed, you just exhibited religious extremism very common among catholic faithful.

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Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by ti4c: 8:21am On Nov 03, 2020
He is not God so he can't condemn anyone. Leave everyone and their lifestyles to God. We are not better than homosexuals. Just live your life.
jesusjnr2020:
It's just a real shame...

Why can't he just come out and outrightly condemn same-sex marriages as his predecessors did?

Let them keep trying to deny the obvious. One day every secret and hidden agenda would be revealed.

"For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known." Luke 12:1
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by ursullalinda(f): 8:33am On Nov 03, 2020
tiswell:
You have been brainwashed, you just exhibited religious extremism very common among catholic faithful.



Dalu so.......taste and see that's my faith
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by taurusdude0(m): 8:58am On Nov 03, 2020
Hambivert:
Sparogatively, I have no business with the pope and I'm not interested in knowing who is bankrolling him.
It's those people that are called Feminist Coalition that I was and is still more concerned with!

Group wanted to hijack the #EndSars protest for their selfish ideology. What the hell? angry

I mean what the hell? angry
Lol who is bank rolling the Pope, vitican city makes more money than your country nigeria,has it's own police and secret service, as for the OP or mod the Pope did not in any way partially support gay union he only advocates showing love to them just as you should to all sinner's by trying to change them and help them repent instead of just casting them out.
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by Gemez: 9:15am On Nov 03, 2020
I don't see anything strange with what the pope said Sha....I believe it has always been love the sinner hate the sin......even so called believers babbling up and down......if someone comes to your church as gay wetin u go do....kill am . ....some even claim to be born with those feelings.. yet suffer for what they never caused.. Let's be tolerant a little........it takes love to win them to Christ...... Those insulting the pope....you fit say na small Pekin abi.....do u know the sacrifices he has made to be a pope.......be calming down nor go carry curse.........Jesus loves everyone no matter how you are.........and gives you grace to overcome any sin you are in shalom.....
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by navzla(m): 9:26am On Nov 03, 2020
Love ur enemies and pray for them.says the bible.The act "gay" is the enemy But we must love and pray for those who practice it for their conversion
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by Ogaonos: 9:42am On Nov 03, 2020
Macsjebs:


Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8905421/Vatican-moves-clarify-popes-comments-civil-union-laws.html
LGBTQ COMMUNITY IS NOT THE PROBLEM IN CHRISTIANITY.BUT FASLE. PROPHET/PASTOR THEY DECEIVE PPLE AND DESTROY THE OPPRESSED AND DESTROY HOMES.FINALLY DEMARKET CHRIST.NOW WE NOW HAVE WITCH DOCTORS ON PULPIT THAT THE REAL THREAT.IMAGINE WE HAVE ELIJAH TYPE WHERE ATHEIST WAN COME FRM. JUDGEMENT ( FALSE /WITCH DOCTOR AND MONEY LAUDERING PASTORS) WILL COME SOON.
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by linearity: 11:02am On Nov 03, 2020
Elvis778:

civil union is not marriage

I know that civil union is not material.

The whole contention about marriage and why the LGBTQ community are in arms about it, is because the Government stepped in and elevated marriage in civil society, gave it special tax considerations, special rights and privileges, special treatments, favor, etc.

Had the Government stay away and instead treat all citizens equally, give them all equal rights and privileges as individuals; no body would really care if they are married or in a civil union.

Marriage should have been left in the Bible, Quran and other religious books where they belong and serve their relevance and blessings to those groups who decides that is what they want to do.

You can see that, no one outside the religious circles who observes Holly communion cares if they have received one or not and there are no court cases of non-believers fighting their ‘rights’ to receive one or part take in the other religious rites like baptism, Ash Wednesday, etc......but, if tomorrow the Government steps in and say, only those who have been baptized will be able file as couples on their tax returns and get a higher tax deductions as a result, many people will be in arms to get baptized and if you tell them no, they will sue you.

That is why I say, there is no difference between both, it just have different relevance and importance to select groups of citizens and Government would have left it so....instead, Government stepped in and tipped the scale hugely in favor of one with huge financial consequences and lost of rights & privileges to the other.

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Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by Openbusiness: 11:13am On Nov 03, 2020
femzybiz:
Explain more on this... thanks
MODIFIED: Once upon a time, there was an astonishingly great ruler, a king of kings (take note of "A" not "The", because Jesus is "THE" King of Kings). His political power was supreme, he ruled the entire world, all the prominent kingdoms and empires. He was the King that had many other kings under his rule. You could call him the greatest earthly "King" (quote and unquote) this world has ever seen. His Empire's (Babylonia) control stretched across the length and breath of the virtually all of the world of man. The name of this great King was Nebuchadnezzar. He conquered the great Egyptian kingdom. He brought an end to the Pharaoah dynasty. He conquered the Assyrian empire, and all the surrounding kingdoms. Nebuchadnezzar ruled over the entire Mesopotamia and from Macedonia to Phrygia to the Kingdom of Medes were under his control. He conquered the entire Canaan too. And best of all, he conquered the Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah.



Let's rewind back a little in history. There was once a nation called Israel. They were God's very own chosen people and He gave them the land of Canaan for their possession, for their country. They grew strong and fearless. But best of all there was something extraordinarily supernatural about them. Anybody that rose against them fell, no army could withstand them, every King that opposed them was either mysteriously defeated or greatly disgraced.

Soon enough, the surrounding people came to know that of a truth, there is a God in Israel. Everyone was afraid of them because of this. Gradually, Israel expanded its political reach, and conquered almost all of the land of Canaan. However, finally, people figured out their secret. And this secret was so long as the God of Israel was happy with Israel, they could never lose, and so if you want to defeat them, the only way was to influence them to rebel against God and once God was angry with them, Israel would lose and suffer and could be defeated. Unfortunately, this plan worked.

And gradually, the neighboring countries, infiltrated Israel, as well as the remnants of the nations they had conquered in Canaan and taken over their lands. The land of Canaan was the land of idolatry, something God hates with passion. He told the Israelites if they would practice Idolatry he would turn against them and punish them. The curse and punishment for idolatry was one very LONG LIST.

Unfortunately, gradually due to mixing with other cultures, idolatry became prominent in Israel, it got so bad that even the Kings were worshipping idols. Later these would lead to the Kingdom of Israel dividing into 2: the Kingdom of Israel (North) and the Kingdom of Judah (South). Northern Israel (or Kingdom of Samaria) fell to idolatry under evil Kings, but Judah remained steadfast with God, although they had their own errors and acts of idolatry here and there, but it was not like Israel. Judah still kept the Judaism faith, but Israel had mixed Judaism with idolatry.

God became very angry. Later, because of this, Israel fell to Assyria. They were conquered by Assyria and many of their people were exiled and take away into the Assyrian empire. Later The Chaldean empire (Nebuchadnezzar) under his father conquered the Assyrians. And this great empire became the Babylonian empire. Later, the Kingdom of Judah followed. It was conquered by Babylonian Empire, under Nebuchadnezzar. Jerusalem was the capital of Judah. It was the seat of power.

The great King David lived in Jerusalem, built his palace there and the temple of God was in Jerusalem, built by Solomon. Who was Solomon? Solomon was no ordinary King. Solomon was the richest king in human history. No other king had the kind of wealth Solomon had and this happened for 2 reasons.

#1. His father was King David. David was no ordinary King. He was a mighty warrior. The greatest army the nation of Israel ever had in the ancient world was under David. The Israeli military under King David was EXCEPTIONAL. The Israeli military under King David was the most powerful military in the world during that time. David had some of the best exceptionally gifted soldiers the world had ever seen. There were a particular group of 30. These guys were the baddest guys on the planet. One of them cold kill a lion with only their bare hands, no weapon. One of them killed 300 soldiers with just one spear. One man with a spear killing 300 enemy soldiers armed with weapons etc. David himself was badass too. Remember he killed Goliath, remember he killed a lion and a bear as a youth. So there was a lot of exceptional military exploits under King David.

King David expanded the kingdom of Israel, he enlarged their territory in Canaan through military conquests. And his reign was prosperous. There was so much wealth in Israel under David. They had so much gold they had won through war and through tributes. David was an extremely wealthy King and Israel was an extremely wealthy country under David. David wanted to build God's temple so he set aside a lot of gold and money and treasure for this purpose.

#2. Solomon himself was an exceptional King, his father's warrior reputation had struck fear in surrounding countries. Nobody wanted to mess with Israel. So Solomon had peace during his reign. With that peace, he built the temple of God in Jerusalem. The temple was magnificent, it was a wonder. Solomon was also gifted with wisdom. And this made other nations to like him. And because of the military might of Israel combined with the wisdom and grace of Solomon, people brought unimaginable treasure and gold to Israel just to seek their favor and also win their friendship. For example: 1 Kings 10:10: Then she gave the king 120 talents of gold, and a very great quantity of spices and precious stones. Never again came such an abundance of spices as these that the queen of Sheba gave to King Solomon..

So Israel was super rich with gold and treasure under King Solomon. This treasure was in Jerusalem, city of David. Unfortunately, Judah fell to Babylonia. And all the treasure of Judah was taken by Nebuchadnezzar. When the Egyptian empire fell, all the treasure of Egypt was taken by Nebuchadnezzar. When Assyria conquered the Kingdom of Samaria (North Israel, 10 tribes), they took treasure too. But Nebuchadnezzar conquered Assyria later on. So, basically, all the wealth in the entire world, was in Babylonia, was with Nebuchadnezzar in the capital city of Babylon.

Like I said before, it's a long story, but I'm going somewhere with all this history, so bear with me. But I will try to keep it as short as possible.

One day Nebuchadnezzar had a dream, a bad dream. He summoned for the magicians, sorcerers, witches and wizards, astrologers, seers, the wise etc, literally every "gifted" person in his empire. But he was a very wise King. He knew if he told them the dream, they could give him fake meanings and interpretation just to save their skin and he wouldn't be able to tell whose interpretation was correct. So he decided not to tell them his dream. He summoned them and told them he had a disturbing dream, and they must tell him the dream he had or he will execute them all. Nobody could tell what the dream was. So Nebuchadnezzar ordered that all the gifted people in his Empire should be executed.

Then Prophet Daniel and his companions were arrested to be sent to the executioner. But Daniel was no ordinary Prophet. He was a SEER. This was his gift. And Daniel said, please take me to the King. When he met with Nebuchadnezzar, he pleaded that he should give him a little time and he will tell him his dream. That same night, Daniel had the same terrifying vision Nebuchadnezzar had. He told Nebuchadnezzar his dream in the morning and he was astonished and shocked that Daniel revelations about the dream was exactly like what he dreamt about.

This was the dream:
Daniel 2: 29 “As Your Majesty was lying there, your mind turned to things to come, and the revealer of mysteries showed you what is going to happen. 30 As for me, this mystery has been revealed to me, not because I have greater wisdom than anyone else alive, but so that Your Majesty may know the interpretation and that you may understand what went through your mind.

31 “Your Majesty looked, and there before you stood a large statue—an enormous, dazzling statue, awesome in appearance. 32 The head of the statue was made of pure gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, 33 its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of baked clay. 34 While you were watching, a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were all broken to pieces and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer. The wind swept them away without leaving a trace. But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.

36 “This was the dream, and now we will interpret it to the king. 37 Your Majesty, you are the king of kings. The God of heaven has given you dominion and power and might and glory; 38 in your hands he has placed all mankind and the beasts of the field and the birds in the sky. Wherever they live, he has made you ruler over them all. You are that head of gold.

39 “After you, another kingdom will arise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth. 40 Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron—for iron breaks and smashes everything—and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others. 41 Just as you saw that the feet and toes were partly of baked clay and partly of iron, so this will be a divided kingdom; yet it will have some of the strength of iron in it, even as you saw iron mixed with clay. 42 As the toes were partly iron and partly clay, so this kingdom will be partly strong and partly brittle. 43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay.

44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. 45 This is the meaning of the vision of the rock cut out of a mountain, but not by human hands—a rock that broke the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold to pieces.

“The great God has shown the king what will take place in the future. The dream is true and its interpretation is trustworthy.”

46 Then King Nebuchadnezzar fell prostrate before Daniel and paid him honor and ordered that an offering and incense be presented to him. 47 The king said to Daniel, “Surely your God is the God of gods and the Lord of kings and a revealer of mysteries, for you were able to reveal this mystery.”

From the above, we can see 6 major kingdoms DESTINED to rule the world. The first 5 are Earthly but the last one is Divine

To be continued... watch out for part 2. It is more interesting than part 1 grin
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by Openbusiness: 12:17pm On Nov 03, 2020
Openbusiness:
MODIFIED: Once upon a time, there was an astonishingly great ruler, a king of kings (take note of "A" not "The", because Jesus is "THE" King of Kings). His political power was supreme, he ruled the entire world, all the prominent kingdoms and empires. He was the King that had many other kings under his rule. You could call him the greatest earthly "King" (quote and unquote) this world has ever seen. His Empire's (Babylonia) control stretched across the length and breath of the virtually all of the world of man. The name of this great King was Nebuchadnezzar. He conquered the great Egyptian kingdom. He brought an end to the Pharaoah dynasty. He conquered the Assyrian empire, and all the surrounding kingdoms. Nebuchadnezzar ruled over the entire Mesopotamia and from Macedonia to Phrygia to the Kingdom of Medes were under his control. He conquered the entire Canaan too. And best of all, he conquered the Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Judah.



Let's rewind back a little in history. There was once a nation called Israel. They were God's very own chosen people and He gave them the land of Canaan for their possession, for their country. They grew strong and fearless. But best of all there was something extraordinarily supernatural about them. Anybody that rose against them fell, no army could withstand them, every King that opposed them was either mysteriously defeated or greatly disgraced.

Soon enough, the surrounding people came to know that of a truth, there is a God in Israel. Everyone was afraid of them because of this. Gradually, Israel expanded its political reach, and conquered almost all of the land of Canaan. However, finally, people figured out their secret. And this secret was so long as the God of Israel was happy with Israel, they could never lose, and so if you want to defeat them, the only way was to influence them to rebel against God and once God was angry with them, Israel would lose and suffer and could be defeated. Unfortunately, this plan worked.

And gradually, the neighboring countries, infiltrated Israel, as well as the remnants of the nations they had conquered in Canaan and taken over their lands. The land of Canaan was the land of idolatry, something God hates with passion. He told the Israelites if they would practice Idolatry he would turn against them and punish them. The curse and punishment for idolatry was one very LONG LIST.

Unfortunately, gradually due to mixing with other cultures, idolatry became prominent in Israel, it got so bad that even the Kings were worshipping idols. Later these would lead to the Kingdom of Israel dividing into 2: the Kingdom of Israel (North) and the Kingdom of Judah (South). Northern Israel (or Kingdom of Samaria) fell to idolatry under evil Kings, but Judah remained steadfast with God, although they had their own errors and acts of idolatry here and there, but it was not like Israel. Judah still kept the Judaism faith, but Israel had mixed Judaism with idolatry.

God became very angry. Later, because of this, Israel fell to Assyria. They were conquered by Assyria and many of their people were exiled and take away into the Assyrian empire. Later The Chaldean empire (Nebuchadnezzar) under his father conquered the Assyrians. And this great empire became the Babylonian empire. Later, the Kingdom of Judah followed. It was conquered by Babylonian Empire, under Nebuchadnezzar. Jerusalem was the capital of Judah. It was the seat of power.

The great King David lived in Jerusalem, built his palace there and the temple of God was in Jerusalem, built by Solomon. Who was Solomon? Solomon was no ordinary King. Solomon was the richest king in human history. No other king had the kind of wealth Solomon had and this happened for 2 reasons.

#1. His father was King David. David was no ordinary King. He was a mighty warrior. The greatest army the nation of Israel ever had in the ancient world was under David. The Israeli military under King David was EXCEPTIONAL. The Israeli military under King David was the most powerful military in the world during that time. David had some of the best exceptionally gifted soldiers the world had ever seen. There were a particular group of 30. These guys were the baddest guys on the planet. One of them cold kill a lion with only their bare hands, no weapon. One of them killed 300 soldiers with just one spear. One man with a spear killing 300 enemy soldiers armed with weapons etc. David himself was badass too. Remember he killed Goliath, remember he killed a lion and a bear as a youth. So there was a lot of exceptional military exploits under King David.

King David expanded the kingdom of Israel, he enlarged their territory in Canaan through military conquests. And his reign was prosperous. There was so much wealth in Israel under David. They had so much gold they had won through war and through tributes. David was an extremely wealthy King and Israel was an extremely wealthy country under David. David wanted to build God's temple so he set aside a lot of gold and money and treasure for this purpose.

#2. Solomon himself was an exceptional King, his father's warrior reputation had struck fear in surrounding countries. Nobody wanted to mess with Israel. So Solomon had peace during his reign. With that peace, he built the temple of God in Jerusalem. The temple was magnificent, it was a wonder. Solomon was also gifted with wisdom. And this made other nations to like him. And because of the military might of Israel combined with the wisdom and grace of Solomon, people brought unimaginable treasure and gold to Israel just to seek their favor and also win their friendship. For example: 1 Kings 10:10: Then she gave the king 120 talents of gold, and a very great quantity of spices and precious stones. Never again came such an abundance of spices as these that the queen of Sheba gave to King Solomon..

So Israel was super rich with gold and treasure under King Solomon. This treasure was in Jerusalem, city of David. Unfortunately, Judah fell to Babylonia. And all the treasure of Judah was taken by Nebuchadnezzar. When the Egyptian empire fell, all the treasure of Egypt was taken by Nebuchadnezzar. When Assyria conquered the Kingdom of Samaria (North Israel, 10 tribes), they took treasure too. But Nebuchadnezzar conquered Assyria later on. So, basically, all the wealth in the entire world, was in Babylonia, was with Nebuchadnezzar in the capital city of Babylon.

Like I said before, it's a long story, but I'm going somewhere with all this history, so bear with me. But I will try to keep it as short as possible.

One day Nebuchadnezzar had a dream, a bad dream. He summoned for the magicians, sorcerers, witches and wizards, astrologers, seers, the wise etc, literally every "gifted" person in his empire. But he was a very wise King. He knew if he told them the dream, they could give him fake meanings and interpretation just to save their skin and he wouldn't be able to tell whose interpretation was correct. So he decided not to tell them his dream. He summoned them and told them he had a disturbing dream, and they must tell him the dream he had or he will execute them all. Nobody could tell what the dream was. So Nebuchadnezzar ordered that all the gifted people in his Empire should be executed.

Then Prophet Daniel and his companions were arrested to be sent to the executioner. But Daniel was no ordinary Prophet. He was a SEER. This was his gift. And Daniel said, please take me to the King. When he met with Nebuchadnezzar, he pleaded that he should give him a little time and he will tell him his dream. That same night, Daniel had the same terrifying vision Nebuchadnezzar had. He told Nebuchadnezzar his dream in the morning and he was astonished and shocked that Daniel revelations about the dream was exactly like what he dreamt about.

This was the dream:


From the above, we can see 6 major kingdoms DESTINED to rule the world. The first 5 are Earthly but the last one is Divine

To be continued... watch out for part 2. It is more interesting than part 1 grin
PART 2: From the statue The 6 kingdoms are as follows:
Gold = Babylonian Empire (Nebuchadnezzar)
Silver = The Medes / Persian Empire (Cyrus the Great)
Bronze = Greek Empire (Alexander the Great)
Iron = Roman Empire (The Emperors)
Clay = European Union (clay because unlike the rest, this is the era of "human rights" )
Divine stone = The Kingdom of Christ (Jesus the King of Kings)

Now the interesting part is this. The Babylonian empire had all the wealth in the world. When it fell to the Persians, the wealth was transferred to Persia. When the Persians fell, the wealth was transferred to the Greeks. When the Greeks fell the wealth was transferred to the Romans. Now at this point, you need to take note that the Gold was wiped out, the Silver was wiped out, the Bronze was wiped out. BUT you see, the Iron, this one is different. Remember the scripture said iron MIXED with clay. When the Roman empire fell, it wasn't wiped out. It continued in a fragmented form, and that fragment is the VATICAN country, that fragments is the Roman Catholic Church. The greatest amassment of physical wealth (gold) and treasure of the world that was with the Roman empire didn't disappear when the Roman empire fell, it wasn't taken by the anybody. That wealth passed on to the Roman Catholic Church, that wealth today is with the Vatican City. The Vatican City is the richest country in this world, but it's a very protected secret. The generational wealth transferred from the Babylonian empire down through the ages is with them. They are stupendously rich.

Part 3 is coming.......stay tuned.
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by boscolly(m): 12:18pm On Nov 03, 2020
we should all calm down and read the article patiently enough... couldn't you guy read as posted by the journalist that it was edited and some words he (Pope) said was cut out??

abeg chillex...

one thing is sure the pope is infallible on the teachings and norms of the church...

I know only few would understand this...

don't be too quick to judge and utter bad words at people

gratias
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by nayolight(m): 12:51pm On Nov 03, 2020
Thank you my brother.
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by Stallione(m): 1:04pm On Nov 03, 2020
"Fully support" so sooner or later he will support the evil fully.Am waiting till then,when i will release my curse.
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by loveth360(f): 1:13pm On Nov 03, 2020
Wiseandtrue:
There's an adage that says "you should not smell what you know you cannot eat!!!"

Why should the Pope support it partially

This is the major reason God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah

They were sleeping with their fellow men

God frowns at such!

So why should the Pope, support it partially Why

Read the scriptures:
Leviticus 18:22
"Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin."

Modified

Is like you take pride in the sins being committed

Quantinue, wear am for neck like medal undecided

SMH
So if you find out that your son is a homosexual,what will you do?

Ok you will carry gun and shoot him dead.



Why didn't Jesus condemned the woman caught in adultery,As the law demands.


A homosexual can repent and make heaven while you that do opposite Sex,if die in it will go hell.
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by Wiseandtrue(f): 1:16pm On Nov 03, 2020
loveth360:
So if you find out that your son is a homosexual,what will you do?

Ok you will carry gun and shoot him dead.



Why didn't Jesus condemned the woman caught in adultery,As the law demands.


A homosexual can repent and make heaven while you that do opposite Sex,if die in it will go hell.

A lion cannot give birth to a chameleon

@ bolded, you be God

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Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by loveth360(f): 1:30pm On Nov 03, 2020
Wiseandtrue:

A lion cannot give birth to a chameleon

@ bolded, you be God
Lolz you see how it feels.I intentionally say that to make you feel so.

You have condemned the pope because he didn't order the church to start killing homosexuals.

You have even condemned all homosexual,as if you are better than them all.

Homosexual is sin same as other sins.




Pls answer the question i asked before."If you found out that your son is a Homosexual,what will you do?"
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by jesusjnr2020(m): 3:10pm On Nov 03, 2020
ti4c:
He is not God so he can't condemn anyone. Leave everyone and their lifestyles to God. We are not better than homosexuals. Just live your life.
Whose talking about condemnation here? Does speaking the Truth equate to condemnation?

The blood of homosexuals would be on your head if you don't tell them the Truth if you don't know.

So be there trying to justify Catholic Pope's endorsement of the abominable act.

You're obviously not of God because if not you'd know that it behoves those of God to speak the Truth to those of the world. It's up to them to accept it or not.
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by jesusjnr2020(m): 3:18pm On Nov 03, 2020
linearity:


I don’t know if we read the same article, the guy supported civil union fully, he appear to be opposed to marriage and not civil union....the truth is, I don’t know the difference between both, because there is no difference.

This is his quotes....

What we have to have is a civil union law; that way they are legally covered...
I was just tried to imply the point they were trying to make.

It beyond obvious to me that the Catholic Pope is on a demonic course to advance the abominable act in the church and by extension, the world. I had voiced this concern since over a year ago, so this is just a confirmation of my thoughts then.

What he did was very deliberate so all these excuses are just for cover-up.

So I agree with you, there's no difference.
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by A305: 3:19pm On Nov 03, 2020
Memphitz537:
Homosexuality isn't natural. Stop all this gay sh!t,abeg angry
Funny enough, it is.

Homosexuality is primal natural but sadly, evolution doesn't support it - just like intelligence, evolution does not support Intelligence. This is why, intelligence folks don't reproduce more when compared to ignorant folks.

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Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by jesusjnr2020(m): 3:22pm On Nov 03, 2020
Lashist:

Mallam you too talk...he condemns same sex marriage but he.is saying they should be treated like other human beings. Read wella next time
It's better to talk too much and say the Truth, than to speak a little of lies as you've done.

If you think the catholic Pope condemns same-sex marriage, you are obviously lying to yourself and have no idea of what he said or what he was trying to achieve by what he said. Take off the log from your eyes!
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by Lashist(m): 3:39pm On Nov 03, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
It's better to talk too much and say the Truth, than to speak a little of lies as you've done.

If you think the catholic Pope condemns same-sex marriage, you are obviously lying to yourself and have no idea of what he said or what he was trying to achieve by what he said. Take off the log from your eyes!
You are still.saying rubbish mr Jnr. Even before now he has condemned it. Its wereys like you that will say rubbish. If he isnt against it, he should have introduced it to the catholic church. Una go just open mouth dey say and type rubbish. You that have an.idea of what he said, show us where he said he wants same-sex marriage and has endorsed it in the church
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by Senatorbng(m): 3:49pm On Nov 03, 2020
Partially or fully, support is support.
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by jesusjnr2020(m): 4:15pm On Nov 03, 2020
Lashist:

You are still.saying rubbish mr Jnr. Even before now he has condemned it. Its wereys like you that will say rubbish. If he isnt against it, he should have introduced it to the catholic church. Una go just open mouth dey say and type rubbish. You that have an.idea of what he said, show us where he said he wants same-sex marriage and has endorsed it in the church
I understand where you're coming from for someone whose completely blind to the Truth.

So you have every right to continue in your blindness, but just so you know not everyone is blind as you.
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by linearity: 4:26pm On Nov 03, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
I was just tried to imply the point they were trying to make.

It beyond obvious to me that the Catholic Pope is on a demonic course to advance the abominable act in the church and by extension, the world. I had voiced this concern since over a year ago, so this is just a confirmation of my thoughts then.

What he did was very deliberate so all these excuses are just for cover-up.

So I agree with you, there's no difference.

Let me ask you though....

What difference does it make on the church, if people they consider as sinners get into civil union?

I truly does not see any impediments to Christianity if a sinner decides to commit three sinners instead of one.....or if a sinner who use to commit 100 sins, reduces them to just one. They are still considered sinners.

Also, it is against the Bible to teach the law before Grace. The Bible say, sinners will sin, because that is their nature, so enacting laws to forbid sin is not Christianity, otherwise we should also enact laws and penalties for fornication and adultery.

Yes, there are sound arguments about the needs for these laws for social harmony in society, but where should we stop? How about outlawing fornication, sex before marriage, adultery, lies, women wearing men’s clothing and vi-sa-va?

Christians today, will tell you that they are living above sins not by their power; but by the Grace of God and the enablement of the Holy Spirit that live in them....it is then an insult and disregard to the supernatural powers in the Grace of God and the Holy Spirit to expect sinners who have not experienced that same Grace and power of the Holy Spirit to somehow live above sin.

Preach the Gospel to them first with love and care, when they become born again; the Holy Spirit will convict them of sins and empower them to live above sin....to do otherwise and push the law into their face, is like erecting a stumbling block in their path to knowing God.
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by jesusjnr2020(m): 4:41pm On Nov 03, 2020
linearity:


Let me ask you though....

What difference does it make on the church, if people they consider as sinners get into civil union?

I truly does not see any impediments to Christianity if a sinner decides to commit three sinners instead of one.....or if a sinner who use to commit 100 sins, reduces them to just one. They are still considered sinners.

Also, it is against the Bible to teach the law before Grace. The Bible say, sinners will sin, because that is their nature, so enacting laws to forbid sin is not Christianity, otherwise we should also enact laws and penalties for fornication and adultery.

Yes, there are sound arguments about the needs for these laws for social harmony in society, but where should we stop? How about outlawing fornication, sex before marriage, adultery, lies, women wearing men’s clothing and vi-sa-va?

Christians today, will tell you that they are living above sins not by their power; but by the Grace of God and the enablement of the Holy Spirit that live in them....it is then an insult and disregard to the supernatural powers in the Grace of God and the Holy Spirit to expect sinners who have not experienced that same Grace and power of the Holy Spirit to somehow live above sin.

Preach the Gospel to them first with love and care, when they become born again; the Holy Spirit will convict them of sins and empower them to live above sin....to do otherwise and push the law into their face, is like erecting a stumbling block in their path to knowing God.
This is the Gospel of Christ to all sinners:

"Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more". {John 8:11}

That's the Gospel I preach to the homosexuals.
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by Lashist(m): 5:34pm On Nov 03, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
I understand where you're coming from for someone whose completely blind to the Truth.

So you have every right to continue in your blindness, but just so you know not everyone is blind as you.
No i understand you are completely blind to the truth. The pope has always been against same sex but said their lives should be protected. Prove you ain't ignorant and show where he endorsed same sex marriage. If you cant, emancipate yourself from mental blindness junior
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by Bella223: 6:51pm On Nov 03, 2020
Openbusiness:
Many people (Believers) think Muslims are the biggest "threat" to Judaism and Christianity, they think the Antichrist will come from Islam. No! They got it wrong. To understand better, we need to review a man called "Father Abraham".

Who's Abraham, and why is Abraham special? Abraham is simply an ordinary man with extraordinary faith. But that's not what makes Abraham special. Abraham is special because he was the only man in this world, in the entire history of human existence that God made a promise to that his seed shall inherit the Earth.

That is to say, God willed the entire Planet EARTH to Abraham, and that's why Abraham is special, and this is what it means when you hear the term "Abraham's Blessing" or "the Blessing of Abraham". The Blessing is the promise of ownership of the Earth he got from God and God doesn't lie. Whatever He says he will do, He will do.

God promised the seed of Abraham the entire Earth, so this world we are living inside belongs to Abraham and his seed (Children). This world has an owner and the owner is Abraham and his children.

Islam came from Mohammed, a descendant of Ishmael, son of Abraham. Judaism came from Moses, another descendant of Abraham from the lineage of Isaac, son of Abraham. Christianity came from Jesus, another descendant of Abraham, lineage of Isaac, but Jesus was and is the Son of God, and it was in Jesus and through Jesus that God fulfilled his promise to Abraham.

Jesus owns the world today. God gave Jesus the "C of O" of this world when he obeyed his Father and died on the cross for the sins of humanity. And through Jesus, every descendant of Abraham can partake of the Blessing (promise) God made to Abraham and his Children.

The descendants of Ishmael, the Arabs, are "blind", the descendants of Isaac, the Hebrews, are "blind", that's why Jesus prayed that they should be forgiven for they know not what they do. But the time will come when the blindness will be removed from their eyes, and they will see that Jesus, the son of Abraham, is the son of God. The time is coming when all the Children of Abraham will be united in Jesus.

Jesus will unite the Jews and the Arabs. They will wake up and see they are the children of the same Father, Abraham, that they are the children of the same God, and that Jesus is the torch bearer of the seed of Abraham. All of them will fall behind Jesus as their Lord. So Islam is not the enemy, their darkness and confusion will come to an end soon, same thing with the Jews.

So who then or where will the Antichrist come from. The Pope belongs to the Antichrist.



Purple is purple, and scarlet is color red. Do the math wink
Na catholic church matter go kill all of una..
Re: 'Pope Didn't Fully Support Gay Civil Unions, Comments Were Taken Out Of Context' by DiegoMaria(m): 8:57pm On Nov 03, 2020
Emu4life:
Truth is bitter
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But ur lie sweet

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