Johntemmy:



God bless this bro. Valencia 2012
I have been having prob to upload here ever since but he challenged me to Hussle harder and I promise him to do so.
I try all my possible best to keep the promise now am getting positive returns since some hours ago calls and messages keep coming in.
God bless you bro.
A little advise can change someone's life positively.
I really learnt alots here God bless us all.
Please contact me for your rofing woods, roofing materials and woodwork biko.

One4me:
I have been reading a few comments regarding Architectural drawings, since l asked an aggrieved member here to layout his complaints, about another member here and it is true that a lot of people are joining the bandwagon, without understanding the issues or having a shallow understanding of it or at worst, trying to be politically correct, which l dont do.

Firstly, l wanted Dennis 3D to have the opportunity to respond to the allegations, before asking Elders in the house to weigh-in but since the person involved, ibk202 said "I have moved-on", l decided there is no need to cry more than the bereaved, so l wont broach that issue anymore, let everyone draw their conclusions but l want to speak in the GENERAL SENSE, my opinion.

Let us look at the following scenarios, when a Client wants to build -
You contact an Architect for a Drawing:
a) Should the Architect ask you to bring money FIRST before he can do the drawing of what you want or does he does the drawing of what you want, show you and then you pay him
b) does he show you a sketch first and when you are not happy with the sketch, you ask for modifications , which when done, you pay him or does he insists on payment at this stage
c) Should he complete the drawing to your satisfaction and thereafter, ask for payment afterwards.

Each of the above scenario is fraught with potential pitfalls, if any of the two parties is greedy or a conman. So, let us take them one by one and we shall see why l said people are just joining the bandwagon.

PITFALLS
In scene (a):
If you pay the Archy FIRST and he does a shoddy job and you insist he should rework it but he either refuse or fails to do what you desire.
At this point, he can call your bluff and refuse to refund your money back, you are at his mercy!
Take note, Client has gained NOTHING for the effort of the Archy since what he asked for, is a Drawing that is fit for building and he did not get that, so he has to look for another Archy to do the job. So, the Client has lost all or some of his money!
How many of this kind of situation should a Client go through, before getting a drawing that is fit for purpose?
So, we can understand that person who said 'I will not pay UNLESS you give me a drawing that is fit for my purpose'.
What if the Archy is one that has the habit of collecting money from Clients and not taking time to do a good job that is usable or he is just not good at his job but keeps making money here and there (based on EFFORT), by taking advance payment that he refuses to refund when his job is not acceptable?
That is a Conman.

On the other hand, what about Clients that act as if they dont like the job that the Archy has sweated over and then refuse to pay for it, using one excuse or the other, even after all amendments have been satisfactorily done? The Client then makes away with such job and the Archy loses for all his effort? That is a Conman.

(b) In this option, the Archy FIRST does a SKETCH (no dimensions, just a layout or rough sketch) of the Plan for the Client to see and make amendments. Since it is nearly impossible to make a drawing the first time and not have the Client request for amendments because this is just like an Art work, 'two different eyes will always see it differently', the Client as a rule, will always have amendments to make.
At this point, the Archy can request for a 'commitment-payment' which covers his effort so far. Does the Client pay at this stage or insist that the amendments should be done to his satisfaction, before committing money? What if the Archy refuses to do any amendments at this point, except he is paid?
As, we saw in scenario (a) above, either of the party can be untruthful or unfaithful at each of this stages.
If a drawing is not complete, it is still not complete and not usable, so Client has to spend another round of money with another Archy.
For the Client, if the Archy refuses to do the modifications at this stage, he is still stuck with an UN-USABLE Drawing and as such, any money committed so far, is a loss to the Client, irrespective of the effort or best intention of the Archy. ConMan.

But what if the Archy does the modification and the Client disappears with his job, while still insisting that he is not satisfied with the job?
But l must point out that at this stage, since it is the Client that is determining what modifications he wants, it is very unlikely that if and when those modifications are done, the Client will disappear and refuse t o pay, because he has got a satisfactory job. In most cases, disagreements occur when Archy is not willing to accommodate the amendments of the Client.
But you never can tell if Client is a Conman

(c) Now, what if the Archy has taken his time to complete the job to the satisfaction of the Client, with dimensions and all and the Client still tries to fi[b][/b]nd a reason not to pay the Archy? this is not impossible because there are ConMen out there! What can the Archy do to ensure he gets paid?
This scenario is the exact opposite, or the other extreme of the stick, to what we had in scenario one (where a rogue Archy tries to dupe Clients by collecting advance payment and not doing the job to the satisfaction of the Client, while still not returning the initial payment), but here, it is the Client that collected a full and complete job from the Archy and is trying to use an unreasonable excuse to not pay the full money or the balance?

As we can see in all three cases, each party is capable of being unfaithful, along the line.
So, how do we strike a balance that protects the Client from extortion and pays the Archy his due, for his effort?
Nobody will like to pay for something that is not useful to them and a drawing that a Client cant use, is not useful to him, so he should not be paying for it, notwithstanding whatever EFFORT the Archy puts into it, Client is not paying for 'effort' but paying for a useful drawing. If you cant do the job properly, then dont expect to be paid for "effort". You are not engaged for "effort".

Archy in this situation must be patient and listen to the customer and try to fulfill their requirements, by amending the drawing to their satisfaction but with a written commitment from the Client to pay him as agreed.
Dont forget, what the Archy wants is PAYMENT for his drawing and what the Client wants is a USABLE DRAWING THAT MEETS HIS NEEDS.
I am sure a Client can be prosecuted, if he refuses to pay for a completed job, based on the amendments you asked the Archy to make and which he has made. (Proof of their communication will prove that the amendments have been made and met).

Clients too must also understand that Archys and other service Providers, are family men with financial need and everyone deserves a reward for their trade. If he does your job, you have to pay for it otherwise, he can seek redress from the law and dont forget, their is a bigger Judge watching both of you and God help you if that your house does not crumble on your head one day, for eating somebody's sweat.
This idea that you can 'brain' someone into getting a professional job for free (except where it is their choice to provide it for free, as goodwill) is completely unacceptable.

Both Client and Archy can also agree on staged payment but it has to be such that dissuades the Archy from abandoning job just because he thinks he has got some money that covers his "effort". In most jobs, nobody pays for effort.
Making a small Advance/commitment fee is good, in my own opinion, once you get an initial sketch (say 10%) but just like any service provider, once the initial payment is high enough, complacency will set-in and no ones gets interested in doing the job where the remaining payment is not worth it anymore. So, l dont encourage a large down-payment.

The Julius Berger example someone used up there is totally irrelevant. JB is a known and established world Class institution, their jobs are usually first evaluated by Consultants who work for the Client, whose duty is to set and ensure specifications are met, before JB even makes a bid and we have never heard that JB collected money from a Client and did a shoddy job or disappears.

And no one pays for "bids", what happens is that you are required to pay a 'refundable amount' when bidding for a job and this is given back (to JB), if they dont get the job but JB does all the groundwork at its own cost.
Imagine if every Company that puts-in a lot of Effort (Transport, drawings, Writings, models, etc) in bidding for a job and they dont get it, is now asking the person giving out the job, to refund them back their initial costs of putting in the bid or to 'pay them for their effort'?
Where does that happen? It does not work that way at all, not anywhere in th world.
Archys in other Climates, once they get a commission to do a job, they will do everything within their professional knowledge, to ensure the Customer is satisfied, and they get Paid at the end.
You should not expect to be Paid for a job not COMPLETELY DONE, just because you put in some EFFORT.
Insulting a Client is also enough reason to terminate any agreement, you just have to learn to be Professional and be Courteous.
when it comes to verbal back-and-forth, remember what they say: Customer is King and no one insults the King without getting a bloody nose.

Ofcourse, the Client can out of his own decision/compassion, pay the Archy a small amount for "effort", where they cannot reach an agreement on the darwing but that is at his discretion and l encourage everyone to do so, for future goodwill.
What l think Professionals should always try to do is SATISFY the Customer's requirements and l am sure a lot of Archys do that and they dont have any complaint about not being paid.
Insulting or belittling the Customer is a just a red Flag for any Professional, even if you are think you are the best in the world. Human relationship is the greatest resource any Service provider can have, that is why companies spend heavily on PR and Customer Service.
Once your name is Tarnished, your Product is Tarnished.
Maybe some Service Provider gets too rich and too big for their Clients and think they cant take shit from Clients, if that is the case, then they should know that younger and more eager Providers are springing up daily. But if you are that 'Client from hell', you need to change your ways before you hurt and destroy yourself.
I have never heard any Client come here to complain that the likes of Spyder, Aventures, Gbadexy, Abdulwastesx, Kolashange and many more, have insulted him or her, why is that? Do they pick their own Clients from Jupiter or can it be that they go all out to satisfy their Clients?
Food for thought.

DancingSkeleton:
How much would it cost to roof a building of 3 bedroom apartment and 2 self contain using this same material? A rough estimate would be nice

Jasobry:
its parapet

oluwaseyi0:
please someone should help me convert 60 feet by 40 feet to square meter (sqm)

oluwaseyi0:
please someone should help me convert 60 feet by 40 feet to square meter (sqm)

Tezcatlipoca:
Hello everyone, please I stay in a decked apartment but yet to complete the building on top of it and the heat is so unbearable. Is dere something that can be done or placed on top of the building to reduce the heat please?

twinskenny:


60ft= 5.574 square metres
40ft= 3.716 square metres

Dennis3D:


60fit x 40fit = 2400sqfeet
Same as
18.1mx 12.1m = 219.39sqm

Jasobry:
My Kobo Kobo 3 bedroom bungalow... Plastering to commence soon...

rotecch77:


install pop underneath the decking.

adezie:

I couldn't help laughing when he said you are talking to him like an employee. Biko what is he supposed to be after collecting money for a job? Mr "I am too busy" but he has time to open school and give lecture. Now he is claiming 25k for his yeye time. I don't even want to talk abt that colleague that is supporting nonsense. please ensure you collect your remaining balance. Its a wonder how he got this far with such pride.

dbshaywhy:
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dbshaywhy:
Good evening professional in the... Happy Sunday and Happy New month too...

Just want to inform you all that I have a Ford transit bus(long chassis) available for haulage... Am base in Sagamu, Ogun State, Nigeria.

Thanks in anticipation as I expect your patronage.

Dennis3D:


Good idea, but...
I will be a bit more worried about the staircase area that goes up to the upper floor (not completed), if not properly done, might lead to leakage and would be worrisome to the POP. Just my thought.

krak101:

Looks good. How much have you spent up to this stage? Do you mind sharing your plan? Thanks

krak101:

Looks good. How much have you spent up to this stage? Do you mind sharing your plan? Thanks

diordaves:


Listening to those audio recordings, I just weak. I don't know if to laugh or cry. But I cried a little for the client sha. I really did.

.........I SAY KEEP QUIET WHEN I TALK TO YOU!!!! I should keep shut while you talk to me after I have EMPLOYED you to deliver a service.

DON'T TALK TO ME LIKE I'M YOUR EMPLOYEE!!!!! Really? So what are you? My father and I'm your child?

I HAVE TOLD YOU MY SCHEDULE, NOW GET OFF MY PHONE, GET OFF MY PHONE!!!! But you called me na. I SAY GET OFF MY PHONE!!! Ogbele o!

As your EMPLOYER, I expect to be part of your SCHEDULE so it does not help how I feel if you have told me of your schedule previously.

I cried at the end of the clip when the client said: you have my money; anything you like you can do. Oh lord, this really touched me. And of course, he did what he liked, he arbitrarily and dictatorially deducted 50% of the mobilisation fee for his effort. Effort at talking to me as a child? So I will pay you 25k to berate me like a child? Wahala dey o.

Well, I'm with Egun on this one: I will pursue you to the ends of the world and back to get my money in FULL just to prove two points: I'm not your child and yes, you ARE my employee.

I have been on Nairaland going a very long time and I've witnessed all Contractor - Client fall out, those audio clips are the worst case study to date.

One4me:
I have been reading a few comments regarding Architectural drawings, since l asked an aggrieved member here to layout his complaints, about another member here and it is true that a lot of people are joining the bandwagon, without understanding the issues or having a shallow understanding of it or at worst, trying to be politically correct, which l dont do.

Firstly, l wanted Dennis 3D to have the opportunity to respond to the allegations, before asking Elders in the house to weigh-in but since the person involved, ibk202 said "I have moved-on", l decided there is no need to cry more than the bereaved, so l wont broach that issue anymore, let everyone draw their conclusions but l want to speak in the GENERAL SENSE, my opinion.

Let us look at the following scenarios, when a Client wants to build -
You contact an Architect for a Drawing:
a) Should the Architect ask you to bring money FIRST before he can do the drawing of what you want or does he does the drawing of what you want, show you and then you pay him
b) does he show you a sketch first and when you are not happy with the sketch, you ask for modifications , which when done, you pay him or does he insists on payment at this stage
c) Should he complete the drawing to your satisfaction and thereafter, ask for payment afterwards.

Each of the above scenario is fraught with potential pitfalls, if any of the two parties is greedy or a conman. So, let us take them one by one and we shall see why l said people are just joining the bandwagon.

rajput4real93:

Same here o my brother. When i listened to the two audios, i was speechless. Arrogance at its peak. May the lord bless Darenyx and other good professionals. When i gave him an architectural drawing a few months ago, he nearly killed me with his patience. He corrected it at least seven times despite his tight schedule and still maintained his calmness. I was even embarrassed to tell him the last time.

diordaves:


Listening to those audio recordings, I just weak. I don't know if to laugh or cry. But I cried a little for the client sha. I really did.

.........I SAY KEEP QUIET WHEN I TALK TO YOU!!!! I should keep shut while you talk to me after I have EMPLOYED you to deliver a service.

DON'T TALK TO ME LIKE I'M YOUR EMPLOYEE!!!!! Really? So what are you? My father and I'm your child?

I HAVE TOLD YOU MY SCHEDULE, NOW GET OFF MY PHONE, GET OFF MY PHONE!!!! But you called me na. I SAY GET OFF MY PHONE!!! Ogbele o!

As your EMPLOYER, I expect to be part of your SCHEDULE so it does not help how I feel if you have told me of your schedule previously.

I cried at the end of the clip when the client said: you have my money; anything you like you can do. Oh lord, this really touched me. And of course, he did what he liked, he arbitrarily and dictatorially deducted 50% of the mobilisation fee for his effort. Effort at talking to me as a child? So I will pay you 25k to berate me like a child? Wahala dey o.

Well, I'm with Egun on this one: I will pursue you to the ends of the world and back to get my money in FULL just to prove two points: I'm not your child and yes, you ARE my employee.

I have been on Nairaland going a very long time and I've witnessed all Contractor - Client fall out, those audio clips are the worst case study to date.

diordaves:


The Architecture profession in Nigeria like some other professions is self-regulatory. The body does have a code of conduct that answers all the valid point you've raised. So engaging an architect in truth and in spirit is not very complicated and is not fraught with potential pitfalls. From my experience over the years, it is a very simple engagement process:

You walk (or call) into an architect's office and you tell him/her for brief. For example:

Client: I want to build a four flats storey building for rent. Two bedrooms each. I want one ensuite master bedroom and one communal toilet. I don't want a visitor's toilet. The rooms should not be too big and I like it light and airy. Do you have experience in doing this and what is your charge?

Architect: Yes I have experience in doing this. My fee is N250K but you will pay N5k non-refundable advance fee. This 5k will be deducted from the final fee after the job is done. If you change your mind pathway through you will not get a refund.

Client: Ok. Do you have any sample floor plan I can see just to trigger off my mind on what I want?

Architect: Yes. (produces three previous work for perusal)

Client: Can I take these home to study?

Architect: No Sir but don't worry, I will give you some floor plans to study.

Client: Ok. I think I like this one ( client settles for one) but I like you to make so so and so modification. (Client spells out what they want).

Architect: Ok. I will give you three different floor plans by Friday for you to go through over the weekend and let me know your decision. I can make a maximum of three modifications for free after that, any further request for modification is 5k.

Client: Why?

Architect: This is to help you make up your mind so we don't drag this endlessly.

Client: Ok. After I settle for a plan what next?

Architect: You will pay 100k to commission the job.

Client: When will the structural drawings be ready?

Architect: I will get the structural drawings ready by month-end that is 31 October 2020.

Client: That is too long. Can you do it earlier?

Architect: I have a one-week seminar in Abuja I must attend and I have some other pending jobs, so the best I can do is 31 October 2020.

Client: Ok. So I pay the balance after all job is completed?

Architect: No Sir. You will pay a further 100k for us to take the plan to the local government for approval. Then you pay the balance less the 5k after the approval.

Client: Why can't I pay the balance after the approval?

Architect: We will need to pay the local government fee which is 80k in this State.

Client: This is good enough for me. Is there any agreement to paper I can sign?

Architect: Yes Sir. Thanks for your patronage.

From the above, all the points you raised are answered. If you walk away, you lose your deposit; the architect is reasonably compensated for their time. Do you want a free plan by trick? No. The floor plan given is just a draft plan that the client can't work with without dimensions. There is a timeline for completion. You make payment at the completion of each stage and everything is spelt out upfront.

dbshaywhy:


Waw... We are both avin same building structure.. Mine too is at roofing level... Kindly let me know how you later work tins out.

One4me:
I have been reading a few comments regarding Architectural drawings, since l asked an aggrieved member here to layout his complaints, about another member here and it is true that a lot of people are joining the bandwagon, without understanding the issues or having a shallow understanding of it or at worst, trying to be politically correct, which l dont do.

Firstly, l wanted Dennis 3D to have the opportunity to respond to the allegations, before asking Elders in the house to weigh-in but since the person involved, ibk202 said "I have moved-on", l decided there is no need to cry more than the bereaved, so l wont broach that issue anymore, let everyone draw their conclusions but l want to speak in the GENERAL SENSE, my opinion.

Let us look at the following scenarios, when a Client wants to build -
You contact an Architect for a Drawing:
a) Should the Architect ask you to bring money FIRST before he can do the drawing of what you want or does he does the drawing of what you want, show you and then you pay him
b) does he show you a sketch first and when you are not happy with the sketch, you ask for modifications , which when done, you pay him or does he insists on payment at this stage
c) Should he complete the drawing to your satisfaction and thereafter, ask for payment afterwards.

Each of the above scenario is fraught with potential pitfalls, if any of the two parties is greedy or a conman. So, let us take them one by one and we shall see why l said people are just joining the bandwagon.

PITFALLS
In scene (a):
If you pay the Archy FIRST and he does a shoddy job and you insist he should rework it but he either refuse or fails to do what you desire.
At this point, he can call your bluff and refuse to refund your money back, you are at his mercy!
Take note, Client has gained NOTHING for the effort of the Archy since what he asked for, is a Drawing that is fit for building and he did not get that, so he has to look for another Archy to do the job. So, the Client has lost all or some of his money!
How many of this kind of situation should a Client go through, before getting a drawing that is fit for purpose?
So, we can understand that person who said 'I will not pay UNLESS you give me a drawing that is fit for my purpose'.
What if the Archy is one that has the habit of collecting money from Clients and not taking time to do a good job that is usable or he is just not good at his job but keeps making money here and there (based on EFFORT), by taking advance payment that he refuses to refund when his job is not acceptable?
That is a Conman.

On the other hand, what about Clients that act as if they dont like the job that the Archy has sweated over and then refuse to pay for it, using one excuse or the other, even after all amendments have been satisfactorily done? The Client then makes away with such job and the Archy loses for all his effort? That is a Conman.

(b) In this option, the Archy FIRST does a SKETCH (no dimensions, just a layout or rough sketch) of the Plan for the Client to see and make amendments. Since it is nearly impossible to make a drawing the first time and not have the Client request for amendments because this is just like an Art work, 'two different eyes will always see it differently', the Client as a rule, will always have amendments to make.
At this point, the Archy can request for a 'commitment-payment' which covers his effort so far. Does the Client pay at this stage or insist that the amendments should be done to his satisfaction, before committing money? What if the Archy refuses to do any amendments at this point, except he is paid?
As, we saw in scenario (a) above, either of the party can be untruthful or unfaithful at each of this stages.
If a drawing is not complete, it is still not complete and not usable, so Client has to spend another round of money with another Archy.
For the Client, if the Archy refuses to do the modifications at this stage, he is still stuck with an UN-USABLE Drawing and as such, any money committed so far, is a loss to the Client, irrespective of the effort or best intention of the Archy. ConMan.

But what if the Archy does the modification and the Client disappears with his job, while still insisting that he is not satisfied with the job?
But l must point out that at this stage, since it is the Client that is determining what modifications he wants, it is very unlikely that if and when those modifications are done, the Client will disappear and refuse t o pay, because he has got a satisfactory job. In most cases, disagreements occur when Archy is not willing to accommodate the amendments of the Client.
But you never can tell if Client is a Conman

(c) Now, what if the Archy has taken his time to complete the job to the satisfaction of the Client, with dimensions and all and the Client still tries to fi[b][/b]nd a reason not to pay the Archy? this is not impossible because there are ConMen out there! What can the Archy do to ensure he gets paid?
This scenario is the exact opposite, or the other extreme of the stick, to what we had in scenario one (where a rogue Archy tries to dupe Clients by collecting advance payment and not doing the job to the satisfaction of the Client, while still not returning the initial payment), but here, it is the Client that collected a full and complete job from the Archy and is trying to use an unreasonable excuse to not pay the full money or the balance?

As we can see in all three cases, each party is capable of being unfaithful, along the line.
So, how do we strike a balance that protects the Client from extortion and pays the Archy his due, for his effort?
Nobody will like to pay for something that is not useful to them and a drawing that a Client cant use, is not useful to him, so he should not be paying for it, notwithstanding whatever EFFORT the Archy puts into it, Client is not paying for 'effort' but paying for a useful drawing. If you cant do the job properly, then dont expect to be paid for "effort". You are not engaged for "effort".

Archy in this situation must be patient and listen to the customer and try to fulfill their requirements, by amending the drawing to their satisfaction but with a written commitment from the Client to pay him as agreed.
Dont forget, what the Archy wants is PAYMENT for his drawing and what the Client wants is a USABLE DRAWING THAT MEETS HIS NEEDS.
I am sure a Client can be prosecuted, if he refuses to pay for a completed job, based on the amendments you asked the Archy to make and which he has made. (Proof of their communication will prove that the amendments have been made and met).

Clients too must also understand that Archys and other service Providers, are family men with financial need and everyone deserves a reward for their trade. If he does your job, you have to pay for it otherwise, he can seek redress from the law and dont forget, their is a bigger Judge watching both of you and God help you if that your house does not crumble on your head one day, for eating somebody's sweat.
This idea that you can 'brain' someone into getting a professional job for free (except where it is their choice to provide it for free, as goodwill) is completely unacceptable.

Both Client and Archy can also agree on staged payment but it has to be such that dissuades the Archy from abandoning job just because he thinks he has got some money that covers his "effort". In most jobs, nobody pays for effort.
Making a small Advance/commitment fee is good, in my own opinion, once you get an initial sketch (say 10%) but just like any service provider, once the initial payment is high enough, complacency will set-in and no ones gets interested in doing the job where the remaining payment is not worth it anymore. So, l dont encourage a large down-payment.

The Julius Berger example someone used up there is totally irrelevant. JB is a known and established world Class institution, their jobs are usually first evaluated by Consultants who work for the Client, whose duty is to set and ensure specifications are met, before JB even makes a bid and we have never heard that JB collected money from a Client and did a shoddy job or disappears.

And no one pays for "bids", what happens is that you are required to pay a 'refundable amount' when bidding for a job and this is given back (to JB), if they dont get the job but JB does all the groundwork at its own cost.
Imagine if every Company that puts-in a lot of Effort (Transport, drawings, Writings, models, etc) in bidding for a job and they dont get it, is now asking the person giving out the job, to refund them back their initial costs of putting in the bid or to 'pay them for their effort'?
Where does that happen? It does not work that way at all, not anywhere in th world.
Archys in other Climates, once they get a commission to do a job, they will do everything within their professional knowledge, to ensure the Customer is satisfied, and they get Paid at the end.
You should not expect to be Paid for a job not COMPLETELY DONE, just because you put in some EFFORT.
Insulting a Client is also enough reason to terminate any agreement, you just have to learn to be Professional and be Courteous.
when it comes to verbal back-and-forth, remember what they say: Customer is King and no one insults the King without getting a bloody nose.

Ofcourse, the Client can out of his own decision/compassion, pay the Archy a small amount for "effort", where they cannot reach an agreement on the darwing but that is at his discretion and l encourage everyone to do so, for future goodwill.
What l think Professionals should always try to do is SATISFY the Customer's requirements and l am sure a lot of Archys do that and they dont have any complaint about not being paid.
Insulting or belittling the Customer is a just a red Flag for any Professional, even if you are think you are the best in the world. Human relationship is the greatest resource any Service provider can have, that is why companies spend heavily on PR and Customer Service.
Once your name is Tarnished, your Product is Tarnished.
Maybe some Service Provider gets too rich and too big for their Clients and think they cant take shit from Clients, if that is the case, then they should know that younger and more eager Providers are springing up daily. But if you are that 'Client from hell', you need to change your ways before you hurt and destroy yourself.
I have never heard any Client come here to complain that the likes of Spyder, Aventures, Gbadexy, Abdulwastesx, Kolashange and many more, have insulted him or her, why is that? Do they pick their own Clients from Jupiter or can it be that they go all out to satisfy their Clients?
Food for thought.

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1. We will pay the trucks/vans owners on a monthly or bi-weekly basis. These payment will be made at the end of each month or every 2 weeks after the trucks/vans has started working, Payment will be made as agreed.

2. We will make accommodations available for all the Drivers and Motor-boy (Trucks)

3. We will handle the provision of supervisors for the Trucks/Vans for a proper monitoring of their operations.

4. We will handle the Drivers and Motor-boy's daily allowances(Trucks)

5. We will handle the monthly maintenance of the Trucks/Vans by changing the oil and the oil filters, monthly.

What the Trucks/Vans Owners will Handle in this Partnership:-

1. They will be in charge of employing their Drivers and Motor-boy(In case of Trucks).


2. They will pay their drivers monthly Salaries.
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3. They will be in charge of handling the major maintenance of their Trucks/Vans .

4. They will handle all the government paper works on the Trucks/Vans.

5. They will be responsible for the registration of insurance and trackers(optional) for the Trucks/Vans.

6. They will handle the purchase of their Trucks/Vans.