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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:47pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
[quote author=Jasobry post=95679517][/quote] Very simple and nice plan. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by valencia2012(m): 5:54pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 6:01pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
My Mason charged me 300k for plastering, window dressing, grooving and belting as shown in my drawing... Please is the price ideal? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mobileboy: 6:55pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
I just got a land (half plot, the owner built on the other half) and my lawyer is asking for copies of the following from the seller 1) c of o 2) survey and 3) deed of assignment submitted on the land But the seller is kinda of sluggish or unwilling to put them down claiming the c of o number is good enough and he's afraid of fraud in the future As a buyer do I need all the above after buying land, and if yes how can I convince the woman (she is elderly and taking advise from her son and house caretaker) 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 7:11pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
Where is the attached drawing? Jasobry: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 7:13pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
n3xt: At the bolded: Which Architect in his right mind, l mean an Architect that really finished School and Completed his training will draw a Plan with the Porch facing the back of the House, when it should be facing the Front? I am sure that even the worst Architect on Nairaland will not make that kind of professional error. How is that the MISTAKE of the Client? Is it that he did not see the layout of the Land from the Survey paln, with the front Road properly described or he wants the Client to be looking into the Bedroom of the people on the other street, when he comes out to have a look at the environment or scenery ? ![]() ![]() ![]() As a seasoned Professional, there are certain "BASICS" of your Profession that the Client will not be aware-of but you are expected to know, that is why you are being paid for your services. if the Archy dont know such things, then he needs to change Profession. Imagine employing a Driver and he does not know how to change the gear when climbing a Hill, only to end-up burning the Clutch or making the vehicle roll back and crash! ![]() What would anyone here do, if the Driver's response was: Oga, you should have told me to change to a lower gear, at least you are sitting right behind me or if he says: Oga, you did not ask me whether l can Change Gears when you were interviewing me for this job. ![]() ![]() Does that kind of Driver not deserve to pay for any damage, from his salary and does he not deserve to be sacked, before he kills himself and the vehicle owner? ![]() That a Client looked at the Plan and missed certain VERY IMPORTANT BUT BASIC PRINCIPLES OF ARCHY, does not take away liability from the Architect who drew the Plan (I am talking about basic principles of Architecture like Putting a Staircase where there is no Entrance/Exit Opening leading to the Stairs or a Bedroom Door without Door or even not putting any window in a bedroom ![]() ![]() ![]() Again, imagine if someone claims to be a Builder and he takes a plan and build a House whose floor is lower than the surrounding land in a swampy, flood-prone area, then turns around to tell the Client that: You saw me building the house and should have told me to raise the floor by two boards or more, that was your mistake, not mine! Why is he an Engineer/Builder if he does not know the BASICS that says the floor of a House/Compound must take into consideration, the level (and even anticipated increases) of the road and surroundings, otherwise the Building will become a Dam for the neighbourhood? Every 'Professional' is trained and that is why you are better than the ordinary layman (Client), that is why you are to being paid for your Services. The Client revising the Plan is just to ensure that his 'specific inputs' are also incorporated into the plan, not to take away from the professional input of the Professional Archy. For example he might want a secret door that leads from his bedroom into his wife's bedroom because he does not want the Children to know when Arsenal will get beaten by Man-United (apologies to Arsenal fans, no be my fault that they get beaten often! ![]() ![]() Thank you for your input Bros. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kingzsoul: 7:23pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
Hello house. Pls is it compulsory to use 16mm iron rod for a raft foundation for 2bedroom with a penthouse? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 7:32pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
rotecch77: Respects Sir! The above does not solve the heat problem, l have experienced it before and l did exactly that, based on advice. It was a three storey building with the top decked with concrete, instead of roof. We keep our Generators and other things at the top and also take breeze there at night but during the day time, f[b]rom about 11am till 3am in the middle of the night[/b], you cant stay inside, even with A.C at full blast in the afternoons. I eventually have to moved out of the house because it was cooking me from the inside, so to speak. Damages everything, from Electronics, to leather Shoes. ![]() After many years, on a visit to a neighbour who persisted to live there, l saw that what they did was to install Polystyrene Insulators on the Concrete deck and this reduced the heat in the house drastically. The explanation was that the Concrete absorbs the sun's heat in daytime and gives it out from the evenings, till it finally loses that heat completely around 3am in the night. By gumming such insulators (those white, packing foam) on the Concrete, the Sun's heat is prevented from even reaching the Concrete so that it cant absorb it. Doing POP "inside" the rooms wont stop the Concrete from absorbing the heat and it will still pour it out in the space between Concrete Ceiling the POP but the POP Ceiling cannot withstand the pressure build-up arising from the sealed space (if completely sealed), as the temperature in-between rises, it will eventually crack and breakdown. And if not completely sealed, the heat still escapes into the room (as in my own case!) and we were back to square one. within a few weeks, the POP was discoloured and cracking. and dont forget that the Concrete also transmits the heat to the walls because our walls get hot too. The ultimate solution is one that prevents the rays of the sun from hitting that concrete. Roof it or insulate it 5 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 7:42pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 7:43pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
diordaves: I listened to it too and l was really angry. For someone like me who does not have patience for nonsense, l will be at the Architects door the next day, demanding for my full refund or there will be blood. That is why l said, in my previous post that "An Archy is not paid for 'EFFORT', but must be paid for a USABLE Drawing. paying the Archy for 'effort' should be at the discretion of the Client and most Clients will do that, once the breakdown in relationship is not due to incompetence or unprofessionalism, like using abusive language on a Client. I appreciate the Client for being a man who embraces peace, that is to his credit. Deniss 3D, you really need to restore faith in your Character and temperament (l know you are trying to get better) by making reparation to that your former Client. That money is too small to stake your image on, the honorable thing to do will be to refund the 25K and openly apologise to him, to show us you are what you say you are. That is my suggestion. @HajjM, you recommended him, what is your take on this? ![]() 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 7:57pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
rajput4real93: Now, tell me how this Client will not be willing to even pay extra, for such Archy, instead of dragging "effort" money with him? Kudos to you Darenyx, your character goes before you. Please Professionals, dont think what people say about you does not matter, whatever is bound (truthfully and justifiably) on Earth, is also bound in heaven, that is what the Bible and Quran says. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 8:02pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
Access14: This issue of ESCROW keeps coming up, time after time! I agree with it but things have to be more formalised, for it to be bullet-proof. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:03pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
One4me: There's nothing else to say Baba. Just like we didn't wait to hear the whole story of what really transpired between the client and the architect in the reported case before judging the case, I think we're making that same mistake here once again. There was no where in my post where I wrote or claimed "The architect placed the porch at the back of the house." It was at the front but the approach wasn't facing the roadside. In response to the your number 1 question above, I'm the one who even corrected the surveyor. The numbering on the pillars were wrong. My friend was just busy calling the shot from his couch in UK thinking everything can be remotely managed. For me, when there's conflict, I always focus on what went wrong and not who went wrong. How can anyone blame the architect here? It took my visit to the project to detect that the pillar numbering was wrong and I had to call the surveyor to come and correct the error. Come to think of it, 99.9% of most houses in naija are designed by architects without conducting a physical survey of the site. Baba, I dey feel your vibe but I think it'll be nice if we focus more on what went wrong and not who went wrong to help many other people using this forum. _____ I didn't listen to any audio release because that's not how they started ![]() _____ Abeg, let's digress! Who's winning between Trump and Biden? 2 Likes
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:09pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
Access14: I second the idea and I’m actually working on a concept that will satisfy Nigerians unique situation. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aforxzy(f): 8:58pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
kingzsoul: 16mm should be the minimum diameter for a raft beam. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by krak101(m): 9:02pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
Jasobry:Nice thing you have going. What's the land size? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 9:04pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
krak101: Its 400sqms 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 9:44pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
I mean the floor plan. [quote author=Jasobry post=95692704][/quote] |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 9:46pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
One4me: Thanks so much chief for this. Actually I know of this polystyrene system but I do use it for damped problem although it can also protect heat.its good insulating material too. Somethings ago I used it for a member here to stop damps/ insulator on decking ( the upper area of the building wasn’t built then. Now let’s check some advantages and uses of pop (plaster of Paris) Advantages of Plaster of Paris: It is light in weight and more durable. It has low thermal conductivity. It is very good fire resistant and hence a very good heat insulating material. It does not shrink while setting. Therefore, it does not develop cracks on heating or setting. It forms a thick surface to resist normal knocks after drying. It mixes up easily with water and is easy to spread and level. It has good adhesion on fibrous materials. It gives a firm surface on which the colours can settle. It has no appreciable chemical action on paint and does not cause alkali attack. Plaster of Paris gives a decorative interior finish. Its gypsum content provides it a lot of shine and smoothness. It can easily be moulded into any shape. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by write2obi(m): 10:21pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
cjfbn:Stucco and Marble effect.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 10:39pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
@ kidfurniture , here are links to basecoat screeding and painting pictures of some member's projects; https://www.nairaland.com/6085593/screeding-painting-pictures-propertylanders-building https://www.nairaland.com/6085561/screeding-painting-pictures-shagamu-building https://www.nairaland.com/4783553/wall-screeding-ready-mix-putty And link to a thread with links to the demonstration video of a water repellent paint and it's washing https://www.nairaland.com/6232605/water-repellent-based-paint-demonstration#95698619 With the skyrocketing of pop materials, basecoat that happens to be the most durable screeding material is now a much cheaper alternative. Although there isn't really much difference in the total cost for labor and material when compared to the pop screeding even when prices weren't high. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Ibk2020: 10:44pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Ibk2020: 10:49pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 10:53pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
As regards how to prevent heat on concrete decking, I doubt pop would be able to do much to prevent heat from being transmitted. Pop itself would dry off and fail from water gradually evaporating from it. Insulating it is one thing, waterproofing it is another. Finding a suitable material to insulate it would still not solve water leaking through the decking. The styrofoam used to package apple could be used or the flat white type used in packaging. I'm pretty sure if searched online, one would get similar materials being sold in commercial quantity. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Ibk2020: 10:54pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Ibk2020: 11:08pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by SurveyorGeo: 11:14pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
mobileboy: Since you have bought the land already, your lawyer suppose to prepare a deed of assignments between you and seller. with c of o number you can get a replica (CTC) of the c of o at land registry, same thing with the deed. just get their numbers, with numbers, you can get replica 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 11:40pm On Nov 04, 2020 |
SurveyorGeo: You are right Surveyor, Deed of assignment is between the Seller and the current Buyer, hi slawyer needs to prepare the document for the seller to sign and he can use that to apply for his own C/O My own seller just gave a photocopy of their global C/O, which l used as attachment to my Documents used, when applying for my own C/O in my name. The Sellers document (in their name), are their document, one just needs photocopies in what is called "Historical trace of ownership" of the land, incase of future litigation. But he needs to be careful in this case of "owner keeps half and sells half". Owner already has document showing ownership of the full plot, by their Survey and C/O. what stops him from coming up in future, to say l did not consent to selling the other half to the buyer? This is where a full transfer of Deed (assignment) is required, signed by the seller and witnessed by an independent person and he should also go and register it with the Govt by attaching stamp duty to it. The Survey should also be an excision (carving out) from the whole plot, showing the full plot and then the carved-out part, so that the same land (the sold half) dont have two different beacon numbers without reason, rendering the sold half null and void. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 12:56am On Nov 05, 2020 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 1:00am On Nov 05, 2020 |
Ibk2020: No worries. God will repay you in a different way. Let him feel emboldened until he’ll meet a client like me that will spend N100K to collect N25K from him. 5 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chimexdnice1(m): 1:32am On Nov 05, 2020 |
Hhmm... After listening to the phone conversations, I feel the pain of the client. I have engaged an architect sometime ago and after payment, didn't deliver at the set time. That conversation left me wondering what is the primary job of an architect and what is the primary job of a builder. I know here in Nigeria there is no system, that's why everybody can do any body's job. Architects of nowadays are more concerned about building than drawing, which always leave them bitting more than they can chew, therefore bringing out the unprofessional side of you.The only issue I see there in that conversation is time constraints. I will only advise the client to move on. As for achitects who are actively involved in building process from start to finish, please try to pay some attention to other clients that need your drawing services, they are equally important. 5 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yangniuyan: 1:34am On Nov 05, 2020 |
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