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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:42am On Nov 08, 2020
Pallets for sale.

#800 per unit (excluding transport/shipping cost).

Location: Ogun state

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:54am On Nov 08, 2020
amosblisz:
Pls how many tyres of a truck has a 20ton and a 30ton of granite?

I don't want to be cheated by my Engr buying a 20ton instead of a 30ton granite

When I’m in least doubt, I go with small tippers. Here’s why:

n3xt:


Tbh, I can’t say but what I know is big trucks rob BIG and small trucks rob small.

It’s easy to spot a 5 tonnes truck that’s not full than a 30 tonnes truck carrying 25 tonnes of sand.


Here’s a very good example:

Another contractor on my ongoing project used one trip of 20 tons and a few quantities of sand for his blinding while I use one trip of 10 tons and a very few quantity of stonedust for the same size of foundation; same depth and same approved mix ratio.

He used 10 tyre truck. I use 6 tyre tipper.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:03am On Nov 08, 2020
KolaShangOne:


Akobo, ibadan.


I don’t have boards in Ibadan right now. How soon will these be needed?

What’s the size of the project and the duration?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:26am On Nov 08, 2020
This is Nigeria Baba Lati Brikila work o cool

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:26am On Nov 08, 2020
lipsrsealed
One4me:


Very true, we seem to underestimate the value of QS!
I think l will trust a Quantity Surveyor more, to supervise my building project (as long as l have a competent Builder), than employ an Engineer for Supervision.
Unlike an Engineer, he will monitor the Cost and Material usage, due to his knowledge of material costing and can quickly advise where shortages or excesses might occur and the Builder can double as the Engineer, especially in these days when Architects are also parading as Engineers and Builders.
My opinion, #NotABibelli


Baba, you’re very correct BUT for this to happen you’ll need the following:

- Complete and fully dimensioned plans and section. (I really mean complete grin)
- Detailed specifications
- Rates of various items of work (the schedule of rate MUST be followed as far as possible and there must be thorough supervision of the project for this to work).

But I think, it’d be nice to hear from the horses mouth. QS dey here na.

Let’s learn about the following from the QS in the house:

- Contigencies
- And of course, how Bill of Quantities can help to deal with the issues of rip offs by suppliers which is always a major issue discussed here on a daily basis.



________
From my experience tho, QS aren’t always there to monitor costs o grin
Na we dey always complain to the homeowners/project managers before changes are effected.

I’ve been on a N5.5m project that the QS place contingency at 40k. It was not until we enumerated the numerous site challenges that the owner decided to change his approach.

First issue was accessibility. Trucks couldn’t get in for weeks and we had to transload materials to site. This cost about 8k per trip on a project where 40k contingency was allowed.

I can go on and on but let’s hear from the pros.

Good morning!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 8:29am On Nov 08, 2020
aghaibiam:
SOS! I bought brimix shower heads and they were installed by the plumber for my new home in September.Now they are not working.All 3 rooms,the overhead water tank height is ok.what can possibly be wrong? Pictures are not attaching.
@rotech77 please help me!

It should be a blockage. The blockage should be as a result of dirt from overhead tank. You need to remove the shower head and clean the dirt. Also you need to install filter to the discharge pipe from the overhead water tank to filter all the dirt before distributing to the building .

Tell your plumber to wash your overhead water tank too.

Thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 8:58am On Nov 08, 2020
n3xt:
lipsrsealed


Baba, you’re very correct BUT for this to happen you’ll need the following:

- Complete and fully dimensioned plans and section. (I really mean complete grin)
- Detailed specifications
- Rates of various items of work (the schedule of rate MUST be followed as far as possible and there must be thorough supervision of the project for this to work).

But I think, it’d be nice to hear from the horses mouth. QS dey here na.

Let’s learn about the following from the QS in the house:

- Contigencies
- And of course, how Bill of Quantities can help to deal with the issues of rip offs by suppliers which is always a major issue discussed here on a daily basis.



________
From my experience tho, QS aren’t always there to monitor costs o grin
Na we dey always complain to the homeowners/project managers before changes are effected.

I’ve been on a N5.5m project that the QS place contingency at 40k. It was not until we enumerated the numerous site challenges that the owner decided to change his approach.

First issue was accessibility. Trucks couldn’t get in for weeks and we had to transload materials to site. This cost about 8k per trip on a project where 40k contingency was allowed.

I can go on and on but let’s hear from the pros.

Good morning!

Contingency is 10% , the 40k pegged as contingency is an error on the part of the QS.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 9:32am On Nov 08, 2020
Happy sunday everyone,

I've got a few questions, hopefully someone has the answers...

1) TILING: How many SQM of wall tiles can one bag of cement install?
e.g. if i have 100sqm of external WALL TILES area to do, roughly how many bags of cement should we estimate?

We will normally just buy bulk cement and monitor, but with the price of cement some computations needed whether to commission the job or not.

2) WATERPROOFING: What is the total area (SQM) that is expected in a full roll of 3mm bituminous FELT?
Since the wet areas to be covered are reported in SQM or liner meter whereas the felt material is sold in rolls... i need to marry both for planning purposes.

Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:32am On Nov 08, 2020
raymondFirstborn:


Contingency is 10% , the 40k pegged as contingency is an error on the part of the QS.

Thanks raymondFirstborn. I love this type of discussion. Let’s hear from others.

Contingencies are estimated with intuition and the percentage ranges between 1% - 5% but not more than 10% (except special constructions).

A QS who allowed +10% contingency must be an extremely generous one. Remember, there’s still variation and supervision

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:35am On Nov 08, 2020
I'm selling a used gate in Elebu, Ibadan. It's in very good condition but could use paint. It's made from very solid metal.

Thanks.

According to my welder it’s okay for N150K

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 10:00am On Nov 08, 2020
Good morning sir.

As a professional quantity surveyor, I feel the need to attend to some of the issues raised here.

First of all, "Contingency" included in Bill of Quantities is not part of the contractor's money. It's SOLELY THE CLIENTS' MONEY. As such it cannot be expended without the express approval of the clients.

A Contingency sum is the money set aside to cover unforeseen circumstances during the course of construction. The amount set aside depends on the likely risks to be encountered during the construction process. The NIGERIA INSTITUTE OF QUANTITY SURVEYORS have an exhaustive list of these risks. However, some Quantity Surveyors prefer to use percentage due to ease of calculations.

Then there's a "Provisional Sum" included in Bill of Quantities. Provisional sums are monies set aside for foreseeable works but whose scope cannot be entirely ascertained as of the time the Bill of Quantities is prepared.

The instance you gave in your post about the QS setting aside "40k" is that of a provisional sum and not that of contingency.

That said, I want to interest you that Quantity Surveyors prepare Bill of Quantities from "mere specifications" alone even without drawings in some instances. Of course, drawings are also necessary in a lot of cases.

Lastly, like I said before, quantity surveyors ensure value-for-money for clients and contractors.

Happy Sunday


n3xt:
lipsrsealed


Baba, you’re very correct BUT for this to happen you’ll need the following:

- Complete and fully dimensioned plans and section. (I really mean complete grin)
- Detailed specifications
- Rates of various items of work (the schedule of rate MUST be followed as far as possible and there must be thorough supervision of the project for this to work).

But I think, it’d be nice to hear from the horses mouth. QS dey here na.

Let’s learn about the following from the QS in the house:

- Contigencies
- And of course, how Bill of Quantities can help to deal with the issues of rip offs by suppliers which is always a major issue discussed here on a daily basis.



________
From my experience tho, QS aren’t always there to monitor costs o grin
Na we dey always complain to the homeowners/project managers before changes are effected.

I’ve been on a N5.5m project that the QS place contingency at 40k. It was not until we enumerated the numerous site challenges that the owner decided to change his approach.

First issue was accessibility. Trucks couldn’t get in for weeks and we had to transload materials to site. This cost about 8k per trip on a project where 40k contingency was allowed.

I can go on and on but let’s hear from the pros.

Good morning!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by valencia2012(m): 10:09am On Nov 08, 2020
EgunMogaji2:
I'm selling a used gate in Elebu, Ibadan. It's in very good condition but could use paint. It's made from very solid metal.

Thanks.

I love strength.
I wished it was in my state.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 11:01am On Nov 08, 2020
Good morning my people and happy Sunday. Just take a look at out local door. Yes we do am for Nnewi but can get it to your location.

The second picture is the job which our very own oga Valencia 2020 paid us to do here in Nnewi and will be going to his country home at Imo State

Third picture is fence rail for another person

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:15am On Nov 08, 2020
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 11:21am On Nov 08, 2020
For the tiling, do 7 square metres for 1 bag of cement.

For the bituminous felting waterproofing, you should have stated the dimensions of the "roll" like you stated in your post.

megacontrol:
Happy sunday everyone,

I've got a few questions, hopefully someone has the answers...

1) TILING: How many SQM of wall tiles can one bag of cement install?
e.g. if i have 100sqm of external WALL TILES area to do, roughly how many bags of cement should we estimate?

We will normally just buy bulk cement and monitor, but with the price of cement some computations needed whether to commission the job or not.

2) WATERPROOFING: What is the total area (SQM) that is expected in a full roll of 3mm bituminous FELT?
Since the wet areas to be covered are reported in SQM or liner meter whereas the felt material is sold in rolls... i need to marry both for planning purposes.

Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 11:49am On Nov 08, 2020
Getting this replicated off of Pinterest.

We need powdercoaters in Ibadan.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Aforxzy(f): 12:20pm On Nov 08, 2020
One4me:


Very true, we seem to underestimate the value of QS!
I think l will trust a Quantity Surveyor more, to supervise my building project (as long as l have a competent Builder), than employ an Engineer for Supervision.
Unlike an Engineer, he will monitor the Cost and Material usage, due to his knowledge of material costing and can quickly advise where shortages or excesses might occur and the Builder can double as the Engineer, especially in these days when Architects are also parading as Engineers and Builders.
My opinion, #NotABibelli



The issues here is that everyone has become a jack of all trades but this shouldn't be. We all have our clear and distinct roles to play on a project , which makes us experts in what we do. Every party is vital to the successful completion of a project but we overlook them because of their fee.

However the construction of any structure should be about quality, cost and time but most times we tend to value cost saving over quality control .

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Gigaset: 12:21pm On Nov 08, 2020
This is a very nice job and this is my first post here on NL grin( what a wonderful platform happy Sunday to you all)
EgunMogaji2:
This is Nigeria Baba Lati Brikila work o cool

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 12:23pm On Nov 08, 2020
Gigaset:
This is a very nice job and this is my first post here on NL grin( what a wonderful platform happy Sunday to you all)

You’re welcome.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 12:33pm On Nov 08, 2020
EgunMogaji2:
Getting this replicated off of Pinterest.

We need powdercoaters in Ibadan.



Marine / industrial paints would do wonders.

Did this for a client a while back.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 12:46pm On Nov 08, 2020
Aforxzy:




The issues here is that everyone has become a jack of all trades but this shouldn't be. We all have our clear and distinct roles to play on a project , which makes us experts in what we do. Every party is vital to the successful completion of a project but we overlook them because of their fee.

However the construction of any structure should be about quality, cost and time but most times we tend to value cost saving over quality control .




The bolded part though. cool
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 12:52pm On Nov 08, 2020
Thank you for the tutelage sir, I tap more knowledge from your ananlysis cool
QSFemi:
Good morning sir.

As a professional quantity surveyor, I feel the need to attend to some of the issues raised here.

First of all, "Contingency" included in Bill of Quantities is not part of the contractor's money. It's SOLELY THE CLIENTS' MONEY. As such it cannot be expended without the express approval of the clients.

A Contingency sum is the money set aside to cover unforeseen circumstances during the course of construction. The amount set aside depends on the likely risks to be encountered during the construction process. The NIGERIA INSTITUTE OF QUANTITY SURVEYORS have an exhaustive list of these risks. However, some Quantity Surveyors prefer to use percentage due to ease of calculations.

Then there's a "Provisional Sum" included in Bill of Quantities. Provisional sums are monies set aside for foreseeable works but whose scope cannot be entirely ascertained as of the time the Bill of Quantities is prepared.

The instance you gave in your post about the QS setting aside "40k" is that of a provisional sum and not that of contingency.

That said, I want to interest you that Quantity Surveyors prepare Bill of Quantities from "mere specifications" alone even without drawings in some instances. Of course, drawings are also necessary in a lot of cases.

Lastly, like I said before, quantity surveyors ensure value-for-money for clients and contractors.

Happy Sunday


Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 12:58pm On Nov 08, 2020
The major problem. I gave up when I heard an electrical engineer bargaining with homeowner that he will provide him architectural drawings angry
Aforxzy:




The issues here is that [b]everyone has become a jack of all trades but this shouldn't be. [/b]We all have our clear and distinct roles to play on a project , which makes us experts in what we do. Every party is vital to the successful completion of a project but we overlook them because of their fee.

However the construction of any structure should be about quality, cost and time but most times we tend to value cost saving over quality control .





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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 1:00pm On Nov 08, 2020
Thanks man for your response.

I know the felts are sold per roll but i do not know how many meters or SQM are in one roll. That's what i'm trying to find out so i can compute how many units/rolls i will need. Guess i'll just speak to an installer then.

Your info on the tiles area is useful and much appreciated.

QSFemi:
For the tiling, do 7 square metres for 1 bag of cement.

For the bituminous felting waterproofing, you should have stated the dimensions of the "roll" like you stated in your post.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 1:01pm On Nov 08, 2020
Welcome with your pen and notebook to the university of construction smiley, you will be glad you join...
Gigaset:
This is a very nice job and this is my first post here on NL grin( what a wonderful platform happy Sunday to you all)
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by aghaibiam(f): 1:10pm On Nov 08, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


If I may?

1) Are all other outlets flowing water?

2) I have a filter at my stanchion and I’ve noticed increased pressure if I bleed it using the bleed needle on the filter.
Yes the kitchen faucet is running well,master bedroom shower which is not brimix is running as well.No filter at my stanchion.will look into getting one fixed.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Gigaset: 1:10pm On Nov 08, 2020
Thank you very sir actually am about to start a project that´s why am here to find a good and honest engr based on recommendation or review
Abolarin91:
Welcome with your pen and notebook to the university of construction smiley, you will be glad you join...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 1:11pm On Nov 08, 2020
raymondFirstborn:


Marine / industrial paints would do wonders.

Did this for a client a while back.

Okay I’ll check it out. Thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:12pm On Nov 08, 2020
Contact Samuel Ajose Engineers LTD for your architectural drawings, structural drawings, mechanical and electrical designs.
Bill of quantities etc.

WhatsApp/call: +2347035596641

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Ogborokiri(m): 2:29pm On Nov 08, 2020
can someone please help with a plan of 2 self-contained in a 50 by 50 land thanks in advance
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:33pm On Nov 08, 2020
Ogborokiri:
can someone please help with a plan of 2 self-contained in a 50 by 50 land thanks in advance

I can, but you will pay a token.
WhatsApp/call: +2347035596641

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 2:46pm On Nov 08, 2020
EgunMogaji2:
Getting this replicated off of Pinterest.

We need powdercoaters in Ibadan.

Good choice, the job looks neat as well.

What I like about this is it doesn't have that "jail" like feel to it.

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