Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,184,943 members, 7,924,937 topics. Date: Monday, 19 August 2024 at 06:19 AM

American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! - Foreign Affairs (1538) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Foreign Affairs / American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! (1829723 Views)

American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections -- Trump's Presidency! - NOV. 5!! / American Politics For Republicans And Lovers Of Truth And Reason / President Bolsonaro Imported The Devilish American Politics To Brazil(photos) (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) ... (1535) (1536) (1537) (1538) (1539) (1540) (1541) ... (4326) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:57am On Nov 09, 2020
feedthenation:



---The Democrats should exercise caution and be on guard for 2022 mid term elections---as the Republicans will be ferocious in turning both houses to the GOP---this will propel them for a possible takeover of the presidency in 2024---i think one of the current GOP conservative senators will be the Republican presidential candidate in 2024---not an outsider like Donald J. Trump ever again---
The Gop will be divided.Who do you have in mind Ted Cruz?which senator

2 Likes 1 Share

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 1:09am On Nov 09, 2020
feedthenation:



---The Democrats should exercise caution and be on guard for 2022 mid term elections---as the Republicans will be ferocious in turning both houses to the GOP---this will propel them for a possible takeover of the presidency in 2024---i think one of the current GOP conservative senators will be the Republican presidential candidate in 2024---not an outsider like Donald J. Trump ever again---


This has always been your fears. A neutral guy turning the whole place around and draining the Swamp. Hahaha...get ready for a shocker!
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 1:10am On Nov 09, 2020
Hathor5:


Some argue that the electoral college system is outdated.

I like the idea of having two votes. cheesy And I prefer proportional representation too but the system has worked for America so far and I don't see it change soon.

Can't blame them lipsrsealed But I guess anyone who dares suggest this, might be seen as wanting to change the system to his/her advantage grin

3 Likes

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 1:11am On Nov 09, 2020
salford1:

In Canada, it's the popular votes which is also directly proportional to the number of members of parliament/party. Ontario has the largest population and number of Parliament seats; hence, that part of Canada determines who would become the next Prime minister.

This makes sense as well!

2 Likes

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 1:13am On Nov 09, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

The Gop will be divided.Who do you have in mind Ted Cruz?which senator
Ted for wia. The guy was born in Canada. It would be used against him.
Maybe little Marco grin
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 1:14am On Nov 09, 2020
budaatum:

@budaatum could not find you.

What really?!

Here's the link

https://twitter.com/m_o_g_e_?s=09

And the code


But Buda, I hope you know we already follow each other grin grin grin

1 Like 1 Share

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 1:19am On Nov 09, 2020
feedthenation:
While Biden and Harris were being officially called Pres and VP, Rudy Giuliani was having a press conference for Donald Trump. But instead of having it at the "Four Seasons" hotel some incompetent accidentally booked it for "Four Seasons Total Landscaping" and they legit had a press conference outside of a random philly parking lot for a building that sales mulch. The extra funny part was "four seasons total landscaping" is also beside a sex shop and across from the crematorium.

---Trump's campaign funds must be very low to hold a press conference in a busines park---
grin grin grin

2 Likes

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 1:25am On Nov 09, 2020
feedthenation:


Fox News suspends Jeanine Pirro’s show after ‘spat’ over airing baseless voter fraud claims.

Fox News reportedly cancelled Jeanine Pirro’s show over the weekend after she was set to make the baseless claim that widespread voter fraud took place in the 2020 election


---Fox News ain't playing games anymore---
No wonder New York Post switched sides immediately.

3 Likes

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:28am On Nov 09, 2020
fieryy:


What really?!

Here's the link

https://twitter.com/m_o_g_e_?s=09

And the code


But Buda, I hope you know we already follow each other grin grin grin
I see you in front of me cheesy

1 Like 1 Share

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 1:29am On Nov 09, 2020
budaatum:

They need to be educated. They believe trump because they lack the knowledge and ability to separate the wheat from chaff, same with his supporters here and the almanjeris too. Teach them, as in, overcome their barriers to learning with superior ability and thought, and they'll know how to resist stupidity.

I used to believe this as well, but I'm not longer convinced by the idea. Most people who voted for Trump had been white men and women and I bet most Latinos who did, had been white passing. The percentage between people with and without a college degree wasn't that drastic.

I believe white people can afford voting for a person like Trump. I mean, let's be honest who is president doesn't affect them much. Politics will aways favour them. Minorities are usually the ones asking themselves, will it favour us too?

6 Likes 1 Share

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:35am On Nov 09, 2020
Ibime:


Thanks for confirming that the reason behind your Trump fanaticism is sheer stüpidity. I make no bones to tell you that you are a clown with pap for brains to think that China will unleash a pandemic on their own population just in the vague hope of someday changing the US President.

I support free education!

5 Likes 1 Share

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:55am On Nov 09, 2020
Ibime:


I fear the horse has bolted for the GOP. I do not see moderate politics ever returning to the GOP, although they may slightly improve from the Trump years. This started with Sarah Palin in 2008, followed by many moderates being chased from the GOP by the Tea Party. Trump jumped on this groundswell and actually launched his Republican career off the back of the Obama birther conspiracy lie which gained so much traction that Trump found his next con in this group of Tea Party people who prefer lies and falsehoods to Truth. I need not tell you that the preparation for supremacist ideas start with the disregard of truth. It is eerily reminiscent of the Nazi party in the 1920s which started with small scale demonisation of Jews (read Mexicans and Muslims) but the underlying similarity between both movements is the total disregard for truth. That's why far-right conspiracy channels like Alex Jones and co have gone majorly mainstream.

I agree with the poster earlier who said America is on a dangerous precipice if half the population have no regard for truth, underpinned by supremacist ideology.

Shout out to the Bushes, Mitt Romneys, John McCains etc. They will be the last of the moderate Republicans to taste power within the GOP for a long time.
Palin, her tea parties and the self-centred ideology of Ayn Rand promoted by Hitler's tactics.

America, thankfully, does study history, and have learnt to write it down for future study. The next few years will stuff so much on telly and in the cinemas ridiculing trump that it would be very difficult to maga in the next hundred or so years. GOP might win again soon if they don't shed their trump branding, but after one more go of maga they might not taste power in America for a long long time. If even Saudi is liberalising, and Iranians and N.Koreans dream and clamour for liberty, America can hardly be tacking far right back to slave times, unless there's something we missing I guess.

I'm going to miss trump. I was so looking forward to the attack on Roe v Wade.

2 Likes

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:08am On Nov 09, 2020
Ibime:


Well said. We are at a critical point in politics. I have followed Western politics closely for at least 23 years and never have I been worried about the future of civilised society until the last 4 years. Truth and facts must be protected at all cost which is difficult to do.......
No its not! Not difficult at all!

23 years you say you been following but even you must admit that following this was much easier than 23 years ago. And by golly, did you not have as much resource at your disposal to influence the outcome as you so successfully have done.

I put it to you that it is very undifficult to protect "truth and facts" because you are very more than able.

My faith in you is immense.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:11am On Nov 09, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

You are absolutely correct.The GOP has gone full Qanon imagine them nominating far right nutcases to congress.I don't see some morderates or never Trumpers like RVAT,lincoln project etc returning to the party.
They will dwindle till they dodo.

2 Likes

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:21am On Nov 09, 2020
MaziShalaye:

You're still a novice Mr Man you need to remove your head from your rectum. It is clear. Wipe the shit from your eyes.
T- is the 20th alphabet (2020 was when they unleashed it).. I'm going somewhere.............

R- is the 18th alphabet (5g was First launched in 2018)

U- is the 21st alphabet (Jan 21st 2020, The US recorded it's first case if Coronavirus)

M- is the 13th alphabet (the word Barack has 6 letters innit... 13+6=19, Covid19 shocked

P- the 16th alphabet (Trump won 2016 and did 4years, add it that's 2020 when he lost re-election because of Covid19)

Young man with all these, and you still don't believe corona was a bioweapon aimed at Donatus re-election, then I don't know what to say to you honestly.
I would have very strongly advised you to stop believing crap you cook up in your head and seek knowledge and understanding but I might be far too young.

https://www.nairaland.com/5123700/disbelieve-know

3 Likes

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:33am On Nov 09, 2020
Ibime:



You are too optimistic, intact blinkered by optimism. Trump controls the Republican party machinery currently and either him or his appointee will control it in 4 years. To show how much the GOP is in hock to the loonies, Romney is currently the only elected GOP member on National level to congratulate Biden and ask Trump to step down. The rest are too scared of what Trumpets will do to them for going off message.

The democrats have also come close to losing control of the party to the left, but each time manage to produce a centrist candidate.
Scared of does not mean he controls. Trump family are already complaining no gop support, and he's running out of money.

If nothing else damns him, his very unsporting behaviour sure will, especially to those weened on basket and baseball. I predict they throw him under a bus in the next few days, till then, watch out for Republicans yelling, "concede"!
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:36am On Nov 09, 2020
raumdeuter:


Most politicians cannot oppose Trump openly for fear that they will lose. Just like Democrats cannot condemn antifa and the far left. They need them for votes. Its the same reason Nigerian politicians in every region cannot openly condemn OPC, Miyetti allah, IPOB or MEND regardless of how crazy and illogical they are
Romney can only do that because it doesnt affect him in votes, he is in Utah where his mormon roots will work for him, also he is not due for reelection till 2024 after Trump would have gone.

Trump controls the party because the president whoever he is becomes the defacto leader of the party who control a sizable followership just like Biden had to embrace the Sanders people. Once Trump leaves the owners of the party will take over their party from the ruins. They have to queue behind Trump for now because they need his crazies to regain the Senate in runoff elections in January. Assuming Trump was blown away and lost bigly the real Republicans will come out. Trumps people cut across both parties. And with the nature of democracy you need every vote

All the FBI guys indicting him for Russia are Republicans, Georgia governor and SOS are Republicans

After Biden inauguration I believe the party owners will come out again

See the tweets from Bush, Jeb Romney and many prominent Republicans
In 2016, 12% of Sanders supporters voted Trump and about 20% sat out the general elections
This is more like it.

1 Like

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:39am On Nov 09, 2020
BraniacX:

@ bolded, funny you should say that seeing as non of the so called socialist democrats or justice democrats as they like to be called lost their seats instead system democrats or corporate beholden democrats are the ones loosing their seats! The ones voters can't differentiate from republicans in terms of policies and politics while every justice democrat that successfully scales through the stumbling blocks set by the democratic party in their primaries wins their elections. It is funny you should equate democrats who want politicians to be actually accountable to their voters instead of lobbyists and special interests groups to the Republican tea party and their previously fringe but now mainstream lunatics like trump. I think you are being economical with the truth here! The democrats have this opportunity to embrace the current young generation who will make up the majority of the voting populace in a decade or two and their liberal worldview now or lose that franchise to another party that will embrace them! Paying attention to Republican talking heads is allowing the opposition frame your position for you and that is just plain stupid
That last paragraph is why I could not respond to his. Fine job you done. Thanks.

1 Like

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:48am On Nov 09, 2020
Ibime:


Let's hope what you wrote up here is true for a better world, but I feel the voters determine the posture of the politicians and too many GOP voters are loonies at present. I still remember how Tea Party conducted a sweep of all moderates in the party some years ago in subnational elections.
And then the tea party just kind of died off before the election that followed. We had Momentum behind Corbyn over here in UK trying to beat Boris, but just last week was he suspended from the Labour Party.

The 'party' is usually made up of coalitions of diverse groups which trump pulled together with populism. Now he's gone (and trust me he's so gone he's Alex Jones gone - and don't you argue his crazy is not fringe), wearing maga hats will be like wearing a white hood, and I promise we will be cancelling their asses by beating them up in the streets! I'm so glad it's red so can't miss it.

1 Like

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:01am On Nov 09, 2020
Ibime:


The left wing democrats (the squad people) can only win in inner cities. They can't win in middle America, and if the Democratic party goes their way, they will never win on National level. Pelosi has done a good job managing them not to become the face of the party. It is never a good idea for a party to go too extreme if they want to succeed. Any middle class person with assets to protect will always vote against a hard jerk to the left. Na students and poor people dey vote extreme left for the most part. I've been supporting Conservatives in UK for most of the last decade due to Jeremy Corbyn and Ed Milliband going too far left in the Labour Party, while the Conservatives presented moderate options in Cameron and Theresa May. From 2000-2010 I was a natural Labour supporter cos their candidates (Tony Blair and Gordon Brown) were moderates. If you give the average centre-left citizen a choice between far-left and centre-right, he will go centre-right.
I, on the other hand, was behind Cobyn as most of what was said of him was mischaracterisation like they mischaracterize Sanders by labelling him socialist. He just got suspended from the party for 'antisemitism', a word used to define anyone who says anything against Israels apartheid of the Palestinians.

UK does not do extreme left and no party leader would go there, nor in US where they can't differentiate it from communism, but I would not be surprised if unions return to America and healthcare becomes free for all. Trumpism has shown education should be free too so people do not become deplorables.

5 Likes 1 Share

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:30am On Nov 09, 2020
Ibime:


Well it's a progression and America is not ready for it at this stage. Let some older people pass on first and the new generation may be open to these ideas in 30-40 years like Obalgwe1 stated. You can't rush anything in life. These ideas were illegal just 60 years ago under McCarthyism so you have to give it time. Europe was able to implement these ideas immediately after the 2nd World war because many people had lost family and assets and that changed their orientation about what they expect from the State. America did not go through that experience so it would require the passing of time, more international travel and exposure to open them up to such ideas.

Right now the wolf at the door is Fascism/Trumpism and that's what the far left needs to help avoid by producing a centrist candidate from their party, otherwise the country will swing even further away from their goal

They embraced Roosevelt's very socialist New Deal in 1933 until Truman usurped it in '47 with what is now known as McCarthyism. Still, social security cheques better not be late, plus covid19 so can't work, no healthcare nor money for rent. As we say where I'm from, Ijesa is not hungry so refuses to eat ẹkọ Oyo. When hungry catch Sule he'll eat monkey.

2 Likes

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bjtinz: 3:37am On Nov 09, 2020
wirinet:
Here is Senator Joe Biden in 1986 criticising the way the Reagan administration was patronising the white South African government. He was passionately in support of black South Africans and against apartheid. He was responsible for the sanctions the US congress imposed on the apartheid regime in South Africa, which contributed to the end of white minority rule in South Africa.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_v00iGJCLY

And some uncle toms will come online and accuse President elect Joe Biden of being racist, and Trump who had never supported any black cause of doing more for blacks than Jesus.

Wow! Surprised I'm just seeing this now

1 Like

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:43am On Nov 09, 2020
fieryy:


I used to believe this as well, but I'm not longer convinced by the idea. Most people who voted for Trump had been white men and women and I bet most Latinos who did, had been white passing. The percentage between people with and without a college degree wasn't that drastic.

I believe white people can afford voting for a person like Trump. I mean, let's be honest who is president doesn't affect them much. Politics will aways favour them. Minorities are usually the ones asking themselves, will it favour us too?
Most people who voted Biden were white too and in fact more of them than voted for trump. And it very much seems to affect white people when a black person is beat by police as we saw with whites yelling "Black Lives Matter", and that's apart from Roe v Wade, so I think politics very much affects them. You just need see how rejoicefully they are dancing on the street after collectively affecting trump.

I'm going to wait for proper demographics on this election. The polls have taught me there's often noise, but education is not "college degree". In UK, we teach it in kindergarten at age 3. Below is some parents saying, "don't teach it to my child!"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/26/birmingham-anti-lgbt-school-protests-judge-ban-permanent

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford: 3:49am On Nov 09, 2020
grin
Real beating

4 Likes

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:00am On Nov 09, 2020
Spanberger’s view was echoed by Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) on “Meet the Press”: “I don’t think the American people want to sign up for the Green New Deal. … I don’t think they’re interested in Medicare-for-all or higher taxes that would slow down the economy.” But this diagnosis is at odds with the numbers. A near-majority of voters in swing districts supported the Green New Deal. Fifty-three percent of Americans support Medicare-for-all (and 70 percent support a public option). In exit polls, 57 percent of voters expressed support for Black Lives Matter. In Florida, while moderate Democrats up and down the ticket fell flat, voters passed the $15 minimum wage that the left has been pushing for years. As Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) observed, every swing-district House Democrat who co-sponsored Medicare-for-all kept their seat.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/08/democratic-leaders-play-ridiculous-blame-game-with-progressives/

3 Likes

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:41am On Nov 09, 2020
Ibime:


Another extremist. Ramdeuter, what do you say?

His records look like another extreme politician and wont be encouraged

As we are speculating about the breakdown of the Republican party, also be prepared for a civil war in the democratic party between the far left and the moderates the AOC vs the Pelosi. If you see the tone on this thread you will already see that brewing. There is no common enemy in Trump to fight now so they will fight themselves. Socialists vs Moderates.

The regular independent is tired of both extreme and just want rational people in politics

They don't want to defund police, they don't want burning and looting on the streets, they don't want Qanon bullshiit, and racist dog whistle

BTW, why are the pissed Republicans not burning their cities down

1 Like

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 6:32am On Nov 09, 2020
salford1:

Ted for wia. The guy was born in Canada. It would be used against him.
Maybe little Marco grin
I did not even know that

1 Like

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SenecaTheYonger: 6:42am On Nov 09, 2020
BraniacX:
in the absence of precedence, "error in interpretation" is everything! My replies aren't a word salad meant to obfuscate, they are literarily my actual replies! Unless you want to tell me this man was the first to gain this insight since the founding fathers drafted the constitution and classic iconoclasts like J.F. Kennedy and Abe Lincoln weren't smart enough to exploit this wrong interpretation

Your replies aren’t word salad? Lmfao... if only you knew. Also what you’ve just said is wrong. Every president knows about this, every one of them. Why would knowing it means it must be exploited? Most of them are honorable men and wouldn’t want America to become a banana republic. The fact that something hasn’t been used doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. What of your own interpretation of that part of the constitution then? Where is it? Let’s see your own interpretation.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by pryme(m): 6:57am On Nov 09, 2020
budaatum:

Did MSM cast 75m+ votes? Or have not heard the voice of the millions who have the power to declare who shall be their President? Or is it that you just don't know how democracy works?

Which is it?


Try to educate yourself when it comes to who "declares" the winner of an election, you hear me.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by pryme(m): 6:59am On Nov 09, 2020
edi287:

Did you say the same thing when MSM declared Trump winner in 2016??

Yes like the MSM has that constitutional duty.
And I should waste me time arguing with ignorant people like you? Not me.

1 Like

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by pryme(m): 7:08am On Nov 09, 2020
It's Monday,
And now the lawsuits.

1 Like

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by pryme(m): 7:21am On Nov 09, 2020
Lol turns out Joe Biden has been discarded ALREADY.

"Siri how old is the President?"

https://twitter.com/JKUS_Grunt/status/1325643559383543808?s=09


https://twitter.com/irongeek_adc/status/1325660867501944832?s=09

Joe the puppet has played it's part, now thrown out.

1 Like

(1) (2) (3) ... (1535) (1536) (1537) (1538) (1539) (1540) (1541) ... (4326) (Reply)

Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . / Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? / African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread

Viewing this topic: 6 guest(s)

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 95
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.