Zither:


I ask you, does that look like the same apology that was given here?

Compare and contrast the apologies. Always remember the picture below. There is no running away from it. Save your copy.

teemy:


Of course not. That is why people are not satisfied that the so called apology is not really heartfelt like he did in his group. That is what I am working on with everyone's help right now.

Solokool66:

You fit apologise?

teemy:
Restitution steps for anyone found guilty of fraudulent activity on FTA

- Admit your wrongdoing. Be specific stating each infraction.
- Let your apology be sincere. No beating around the bush trying to garner empathy.
- Apologize to any and all your action affected negatively. Be specific calling names where applicable.
- Must consent to being monitored from henceforth as a deterrent against such misdoing being repeated.
- I will not repeat xyz again.

At the moment, that is what I have been able to collapse all demands for a reforming fraudster to be. List more if needed before it becomes the standard.

Cheers

Zither:


You actually repeated what Pipsbasketings previously outlined as conditions for Saxy4C to be given another chance to continue....and you added to it. The crux of the matter is that he (Saxy) has not done any of them. Worse, he couched his apologies to make it seem like he is the victim of unjust allegations.

teemy:


It has to be a tough one else if it was just too easy, people will simply default and smile it away. If the cleansing of the gods is a harsh one, people will think 3 times before doing wrong.

my man, has it not been harsh enough? We delibrate on simple matter and make it look like a market square Jare.....

Initially when I saw the apology I was a bit happy that we are about to move.... But all I see is?
On top?? Kai

Solokool66:



my man, has it not been harsh enough? We delibrate on simple matter and make it look like a market square Jare.....

Initially when I saw the apology I was a bit happy that we are about to move.... But all I see is?
On top?? Kai

teemy:


Of course not. That is why people are not satisfied that the so called apology is not really heartfelt like he did in his group. That is what I am working on with everyone's help right now.

Zither:


Teemy, if that is the case then quit defending him. I, for one, like I said, am very open to giving people second chances but you defending him and seeking his continued participation without him admitting his wrongs make it seem like no one is willing to give him another chance. That's wrong.

teemy:
Restitution steps for anyone found guilty of fraudulent activity on FTA

- Admit your wrongdoing. Be specific stating each infraction.
- Let your apology be sincere. No beating around the bush trying to garner empathy.
- Apologize to any and all your action affected negatively. Be specific calling names where applicable.
- Must consent to being monitored from henceforth as a deterrent against such misdoing being repeated.
- I will not repeat xyz again.

At the moment, that is what I have been able to collapse all demands for a reforming fraudster to be. List more if needed before it becomes the standard.

Cheers

Pipsbasketings:
@Teemy: The whip used in flogging the first wife is in the wardrobe awaiting the second wife

When you administer this measure for him, you HAVE to administer the same to previous fraudsters that he has sent out of this thread. So we all can live with them all

Else, leave it as it is - he is a fraudster like others-----Simple

teemy:
If he can't abide, he should leave.

One thing though, if he undergoes all that humiliation, NO ONE should harass him again especially if he is not doing anything fishy afterwards. Are we agreed on this?

Karleb:


Actually, people he defrauded are free to drag him anytime any day.

Karleb:


Actually, people he defrauded are free to drag him anytime any day.

teemy:
Alright, between now and tonight, let everyone drop their suggestions for restitution and suggestions for judgement if the person fails to do as demanded.

teemy:


Which would be Tom Lucas and I don't think he is interested in any dragging. Using Lucas' name could have landed him in prison if Lucas wanted it so.

Let's ask ourselves, if I was in Saxy4c's shoes and I was to undergo such village square treatment just to be accepted back at a place, I would certainly say it is surely not worth it especially as the matter will never go away despite being forgiven.

At this point Saxy4c, I recommend you forget about FTA. Take note of the lessons you've learnt. Always come out clean if you are in the wrong and don't build your foundation on lies, dishonesty or deceit. You still have the skies to reach if you work hard and abide by good MM rules. I wish you the best in your future endeavors.

Everyone else, I hope you see that going at the rate of punish punish punish will only bring out the ugliness of man within us. Let's say goodbye to saxy4c and bring this chapter of FTA to a close.

Wishing you well - Teemy

teemy:
pipnator00, have you confirmed that in the rules they were preinformed?

PETUK:
I came to this thread to learn Forex Trading but all I see is fighting

teemy:

I am asking this question from everyone so as to hear your opinions.
For me, I say he has to work the growth part to helping back his clients' losses.

Ps: What people forget here is that Teemy himself is forex guru, he's a marketer , he will exploit any opportunity to make money for himself, he doesn't really care about morals. Check his previous post about ppl with huge followers... Teemy doesn't care about no victims , Teemy cares about making some moneyyyyyy

TheYoda:
I think Teemy is very generous and we are getting him wrong. I think Teemy is planning to use his personal money to fund all the 40+ accounts blown. Teemy is going to fund all those accounts, then Saxy4c can go back to trading them .

Ps: What people forget here is that Teemy himself is forex guru, he's a marketer , he will exploit any opportunity to make money for himself, he doesn't really care about morals. Check his previous post about ppl with huge followers... Teemy doesn't care about no victims , Teemy cares about making some moneyyyyyy

TheYoda:
Need to go to bed, planning to be up to trade London open
Some intra-day and scalping.
Good luck guys.

I'm sorry it turned out that way, it happened that you came at the wrong time but then, right time so you can meet a clean ground while joining......Many newbies in the business have recurrently fallen victim now and in the past, just that this was a bit tough to fight - it was a necessary fight for the sanity/benefit of the thread, fighting a good fight of faith.

There are a lot of traders here with great experiences which you can learn from, then you can as well be bold to post signals as time goes on; FTA20 is here to stay, and FTA 21 will open soon - plenty of opportunities to learn.

Advice: However, while you learn, watch out: Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil (fraudsters/forex gurus) prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. 1 Peter 5:8

Wishing you success in your journey in the fx world

Englishisamust:
You better leave them, they call themselves elders they are the ones behaving like teenager up and down.

PETUK:
I came to this thread to learn Forex Trading but all I see is fighting

TheYoda:
Guys what pairs are you looking at? intra-day, scalp or swing ?