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Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by gidgiddy: 10:45am On Nov 09, 2020
I have been wondering about this boundary adjustment that was done in the 1970's that saw parts of Imo state such as Egbema, Etche and Obigbo carved into Rivers state. Today, Egbema people have half their community in Ohaji-Egbema LGA in Imo state, while the other half is in Egbema-Ndoni LGA in Rivers State. What was going here? Why was Obigbo taken out of Imo state, put in Rivers state, then renamed 'Oyigbo'?

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Moferere: 10:47am On Nov 09, 2020
Without sounding immodest, this strategy will not help IPOB, neither will it help the aspirations of any igbo man in Nigeria

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Nobody: 10:48am On Nov 09, 2020
gidgiddy:
[s]I have bee wondering about this boundary adjustment that was done in the 1970's that saw parts of Imo state such as Egbema, Etche and Obigbo carved into Rivers state. Today, Egbema people have half their community in Ohaji-Egbema LGA in Imo state, while the other half is in Egbema-Ndoni LGA in Rivers State. What was going here? Why was Obigbo taken out of Imo state, put in Rivers state, then renamed 'Oyigbo'?[/s]

And so?


Is this the current problem facing Imo state?

How does this bring roads, infrastructure and every dividends of democracy to Imo?


What is the current happiness index of the people.?



What is all these Rubbish about Obigbo, otigbo, ovigbo, osigbo or whatever?



Nnamdi kanu went there and created a mess of himself and trying to turn a community to a terrorist zone and you are here writing nonsense.



Let them remain there.


Good Governance remains the key

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by IgbofromDelta: 10:55am On Nov 09, 2020
M0rons need to stop claiming that Igbos are not indigenous to Rivers State and Delta States

Juliusmalema:


And so?


Is this the current problem facing Imo state?

How does this bring roads, infrastructure and every dividends of democracy to Imo?


What is the current happiness index of the people.?



What is all these Rubbish about Obigbo, otigbo, ovigbo, osigbo or whatever?



Nnamdi kanu went there and created a mess of himself and trying to turn a community to a terrorist zone and you are here writing nonsense.



Let them remain there.


Good Governance remains the key

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Nobody: 10:58am On Nov 09, 2020
IgbofromDelta:
M0rons need to stop claiming that Igbos are not indigenous to Rivers State and Delta States



All these Monikers created just to claim help only portrays you as been desperate. Your community Dem burn am that you are more concerned about people living in their own land.


I don't know a better definition of slowpoke than this.

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by 9japride(m): 10:58am On Nov 09, 2020
IgbofromDelta:
M0rons need to stop claiming that Igbos are not indigenous to Rivers State and Delta States

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Most comments on nairaland are deliberately done negatively to incite people into crises. A lot of imposters claiming to be from southern Nigeria are enemies of the zone. It's a pity

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by gidgiddy: 11:01am On Nov 09, 2020
Moferere:
Without sounding immodest, this strategy will not help IPOB, neither will it help the aspirations of any igbo man in Nigeria

This has more to do with history than anything else. Why was Obigbo taken out of Imo and put in Rivers state? There must be a reason

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by wakaman: 11:20am On Nov 09, 2020
Some dogs don't know when to stop barking!

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by YoonSung57: 11:32am On Nov 09, 2020
Hm...
Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by vanunu: 11:38am On Nov 09, 2020
gidgiddy:


This has more to do with history than anything else. Why was Obigbo taken out of Imo and put in Rivers state? There must be a reason

When oil was discovered in Etche, Obigbo and Egbema, the Nigerian government decided to do a boundary adjustment. Eze Obi of Egbema imo resisted them to an extent.

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Rugaria: 11:48am On Nov 09, 2020
gidgiddy:
I have been wondering about this boundary adjustment that was done in the 1970's that saw parts of Imo state such as Egbema, Etche and Obigbo carved into Rivers state. Today, Egbema people have half their community in Ohaji-Egbema LGA in Imo state, while the other half is in Egbema-Ndoni LGA in Rivers State. What was going here? Why was Obigbo taken out of Imo state, put in Rivers state, then renamed 'Oyigbo'?

But you can see the net effects today already and you are still asking why. Some igbos don't even know the predicament of these igbo communities carved out in this way. The military regimes did this. The federal government took time after the war to redesign an SE that can be easily managed. The main aim was to push igboland far away from the coast and make it a very unhospitable place deprived of any serious economic development. This was why they made sure that the abandoned property saga lingered on for a while to force igbos out of PH by creating issues between the igbos and the minorities there. Then the oil rich nature of some of the communities.

Don't forget that before the creation of bayelsa , the ijaws dominated Rivers politics. Federal forces more or less wanted the oil fields in those boundary communities to be in the hands of the minority groups that fought with them during the war. That's why Egbema was devided into two. Infact, the igboid section of Rivers State produce most oil accredited to Rivers from the inland. These communities are victims of circumstances and when you hear less informed igbos telling you that igboland begins and ends with the SE, it simply speaks to their level of ignorance of latent issues in Nigeria's politics and never a statement of fact.

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Rugaria: 11:51am On Nov 09, 2020
vanunu:


When oil was discovered in Etche, Obigbo and Egbema, the Nigerian government decided to do a boundary adjustment. Eze Obi of Egbema imo resisted them to an extent.
Folks should read up on the atrocious activities of the Justice Mamman Nasir boundary adjustment committee. Together with the likes of Obasanjo, these evil people simply sat down and used knives to carve out oil producing areas of these communities from the SE states. The evil perpetuated by the Nigerian state against the SE is mind boggling.

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Moferere: 11:56am On Nov 09, 2020
gidgiddy:


This has more to do with history than anything else. Why was Obigbo taken out of Imo and put in Rivers state? There must be a reason

Ayere was taken from Ondo
Kabba was taken from Kwara

They are now in Kogi, should we go there and fight? Despite the fact that they speak Yoruba?

O wrong nau

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by helinues: 11:56am On Nov 09, 2020
Why was Armenia carved out from Soviet Union?

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Igboid: 12:05pm On Nov 09, 2020
"The war aim and (final) solution properly speaking of the entire problem, is to discriminate against the Igbos and in their own interest. Such discrimination would include above all the detachment of those oil-rich territories in the Eastern Region, inaddition, the Igbos' freedom of movement would be restricted, to prevent their renewed penetration into other parts, leaving any access to the sea to the Igbos, is quite out of the question, "
(FederalNigerian Minister speaking to E. C. Schwarzenback, Swiss Review of Africa, February
1968).


OP the above is the answer you are looking for.

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by nku5: 12:06pm On Nov 09, 2020
Same reason why yoruba speaking Jebba was carved into Niger State

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Igboid: 12:11pm On Nov 09, 2020
Moferere:


Ayere was taken from Ondo
Kabba was taken from Kwara

They are now in Kogi, should we go there and fight? Despite the fact that they speak Yoruba?

O wrong nau

Kabba taken from Kwara is like Ezza taken from Enugu. They are still in same geopolitical zone which is NC and SE respectively.

I can't speak about Ayere as I don't know much about it. But we have some Igbo speaking communities in Benue and Cross River too.
But those are different issues.

The carving out of Ndokis and ASA people in Obigbo from SE to Rivers state was done with malice and evil intent.
Likewise the division of Egbema into two with the oil producing part put in Rivers and the "then" non oil producing part left in SE.

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Moferere: 12:24pm On Nov 09, 2020
Igboid:


Kabba taken from Kwara is like Ezza taken from Enugu. They are still in same geopolitical zone which is NC and SE respectively.

I can't speak about Ayere as I don't know much about it. But we have some Igbo speaking communities in Benue and Cross River too.
But those are different issues.

The carving out of Ndokis and ASA people in Obigbo from SE to Rivers state was done with malice and evil intent.
Likewise the division of Egbema into two with the oil producing part put in Rivers and the "then" non oil producing part left in SE.

Some part of Ekiti (SW) were carved to Kwara (NC)
Some parts of Ondo were carved to Kogi (NC)
Truth is, it is wrong to go to these states and fight.
They have been delineated and recognised by the constitution and only a constitutional process can change that.
So, going to oyigbo to fight, and rename it obigbo is wrong.
Call a spade, a spade.

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by gidgiddy: 12:37pm On Nov 09, 2020
vanunu:


When oil was discovered in Etche, Obigbo and Egbema, the Nigerian government decided to do a boundary adjustment. Eze Obi of Egbema imo resisted them to an extent.

So it was all about cutting out Oil producing communities in Imo state and adding it to Rivers state to give the impression that RIvers state was the major oil king in the South? Interesting

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by SlayerForever: 12:55pm On Nov 09, 2020
The other day I was here on Nairaland I wanted to open a thread about something like this. I forgot.

If Egbema is removed from Rivers and rejoined to Imo and Etche is readded to Imo also, what will be the remaining oil output of Rivers state?


Someone more knowledgeable of the respective oil outputs of communities in Rivers can open a thread on it.

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Christistruth00: 1:09pm On Nov 09, 2020
Moferere:


Ayere was taken from Ondo
Kabba was taken from Kwara

They are now in Kogi, should we go there and fight? Despite the fact that they speak Yoruba?

O wrong nau

Itsekiri speak Yoruba and against their own will were carved into the Midwest. They also have Oil. Yoruba accepted it.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?q=https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/03/olu-warri-itsekiri-heritage-meets-yoruba-royalty/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjg78Cnx_XsAhURmVwKHXW7C-0QFjANegQICxAB&usg=AOvVaw1G_evr1d1CZtHbe_f8snXe

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by BigSarah(f): 1:30pm On Nov 09, 2020
Dude Igbos lost a war, what ever that happened after the war happened because igbos lost... That’s it igbos lost, forget about the pre-war times, that’s long gone... Forget about it

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Igboid: 1:32pm On Nov 09, 2020
Moferere:


Some part of Ekiti (SW) were carved to Kwara (NC)
Some parts of Ondo were carved to Kogi (NC)
Truth is, it is wrong to go to these states and fight.
They have been delineated and recognised by the constitution and only a constitutional process can change that.
So, going to oyigbo to fight, and rename it obigbo is wrong.
Call a spade, a spade.

The original name is Obiigbo.
It was Rivers state that renamed it Oyiigbo.
Don't get it twisted.

And no one is going to those places to fight. The indigenes are Igbo and are naturally pulled towards any pan Igbo struggle.

No one is calling Yorubas in Kwara and Kogi strangers , why is Rivers state government hell bent on changing the Igbo identity of Obiigbo indigenes?

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Igboid: 1:35pm On Nov 09, 2020
Christistruth00:


Itsekiri speak Yoruba and against their own will were carved into the Midwest. They also have Oil. Yoruba accepted it.

Itsekiri don't speak Yoruba. Stop it already.
Their language is Yoruboid but they have at no point in history identified as Yorubas, they have always been distinct. Stop being mischievous .
There is no single colonial census in Nigeria where Itsekiri were counted as Yorubas. They have always been a distinct group.
And for all its Worth, Itsekiri became a part of Midwest region by referendum. They voted alongside other minorities to leave Western region.
They were not carved out of Western region by a military fiat.

In fact certain parts of Delta state that were oil rich were ceded to Ondo state during these boundary adjustments .

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Christistruth00: 2:20pm On Nov 09, 2020
Igboid:


Itsekiri don't speak Yoruba. Stop it already.
Their language is Yoruboid but they have at no point in history identified as Yorubas, they have always been distinct. Stop being mischievous .
There is no single colonial census in Nigeria where Itsekiri were counted as Yorubas. They have always been a distinct group.
And for all its Worth, Itsekiri became a part of Midwest region by referendum. They voted alongside other minorities to leave Western region.
They were not carved out of Western region by a military fiat.

In fact certain parts of Delta state that were oil rich were ceded to Ondo state during these boundary adjustments .


Itsekiri Language is a Yoruba dialect ask any Isekiri person that is why Ilaje and Ijebu speakers understand Itsekiri easily. In the 1964 Midwest referendum Itsekiri voted to remain in the Western Region.
The Oil in Ondo State is in the Ilaje Areas and Ilaje are undisputed Yoruba


https://www.google.co.uk/url?q=https://www.itsekirinawb.org/itsekiri-language-and-culture&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjuy8X1yPXsAhVLTsAKHYyFAscQFjAUegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw3DUDbUetSrMIM6OkaYs56d

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by adelola500: 2:28pm On Nov 09, 2020
Igboid:


The original name is Obiigbo.
It was Rivers state that renamed it Oyiigbo.
Don't get it twisted.

And no one is going to those places to fight. The indigenes are Igbo and are naturally pulled towards any pan Igbo struggle.

No one is calling Yorubas in Kwara and Kogi strangers , why is Rivers state government hell bent on changing the Igbo identity of Obiigbo indigenes?

But Wike said it in front of Igbo leaders that igbos are not indigenes to Rivers state. so how come Ohaneze Ndigbo and southeast Governors agreed with wike that igbos are not indigenes to any south-south states that they should respect their host

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Kinematics: 2:30pm On Nov 09, 2020
Was it ever in Imo state? When Rivers was created there was nothing like Imo. Rivers was created out of the then eastern region with a clear cut boundary, but a time came ibo started claiming parts of Rivers then ruling had to come from the centre to settle the matter.


Ibos have been wailing since 1967 Rivers was created and will continue to wail.

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by oyatz(m): 2:35pm On Nov 09, 2020
Igboid:


Kabba taken from Kwara is like Ezza taken from Enugu. They are still in same geopolitical zone which is NC and SE respectively.

I can't speak about Ayere as I don't know much about it. But we have some Igbo speaking communities in Benue and Cross River too.
But those are different issues.

The carving out of Ndokis and ASA people in Obigbo from SE to Rivers state was done with malice and evil intent.
Likewise the division of Egbema into two with the oil producing part put in Rivers and the "then" non oil producing part left in SE.


States in Nigeria are units of Administration and not necessarily ethnic homelands whose boundaries may be difficult to establish.



Geographical landmarks, certain Historical events and sometimes aspirations of the people were used to set boundaries between States.

Examples of what you raised abound all over the country.

Jebba is divided into two, one part in Kwara and the other part in Niger State.

Owena is partly in Osun and partly in Ondo State.

Akokoland is partly in Ondo & partly in Edo State
KareKare peoples are partly in Bauchi & partly in Yobe State.

Some Ekiti Towns are carved into Kwara State (They even have EKiti LGA, Kwara State) while the bulk of Ekiti form their own State in the S/West.

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Seerade029: 2:36pm On Nov 09, 2020
Moferere:


Some part of Ekiti (SW) were carved to Kwara (NC)
Some parts of Ondo were carved to Kogi (NC)
Truth is, it is wrong to go to these states and fight.
They have been delineated and recognised by the constitution and only a constitutional process can change that.
So, going to oyigbo to fight, and rename it obigbo is wrong.
Call a spade, a spade.


True.
There is Ekiti kwara in kwara state
And it supposed to be in ekiti state
Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Christistruth00: 2:36pm On Nov 09, 2020
Kinematics:
Was it ever in Imo state? When Rivers was created there was nothing like Imo. Rivers was created out of the then eastern region with a clear cut boundary, but a time came ibo started claiming parts of Rivers then ruling had to come from the centre to settle the matter.


Ibos have been wailing since 1967 Rivers was created and will continue to wail.

Those Igbos love promoting lying propaganda as History . That is why they foo!ishly shoot themselves in the foot all the time by Claiming others territories because they have no true sense of History at all.

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Re: Why Was Obigbo/Oyigbo Taken Out Of Imo State And Carved Into Rivers State? by Seerade029: 2:37pm On Nov 09, 2020
Igboid:


Itsekiri don't speak Yoruba. Stop it already.
Their language is Yoruboid but they have at no point in history identified as Yorubas, they have always been distinct. Stop being mischievous .
There is no single colonial census in Nigeria where Itsekiri were counted as Yorubas. They have always been a distinct group.
And for all its Worth, Itsekiri became a part of Midwest region by referendum. They voted alongside other minorities to leave Western region.
They were not carved out of Western region by a military fiat.

In fact certain parts of Delta state that were oil rich were ceded to Ondo state during these boundary adjustments .


Lol, if Itshekiri don't speak Yorubas then aniomans ain't Igbos.

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