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. by Fvcknames: 3:53am On Nov 09, 2020 |
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Re: . by blackpanthar: 4:43am On Nov 09, 2020 |
Fvcknames: I feel u should reconsider, suicide is also pointless because u do not have facts of what lies beyond..... also I know a way u can earn 50k monthly without working.... INVESTING... Seriously i feel u are just bored of routine and scared of being broke. BRO never consider ending ur life..... u can always change profession or environment 1 Like |
Re: . by Kobojunkie: 4:45am On Nov 09, 2020 |
Friend, I think you would benefit more from visiting a doctor for help with your mental condition. I suspect that you struggle with clinical depression (with suicidal ideations) and have probably not been receiving treatment for it. I am at least relieved you are a nihilist, so at least the hurdle, as far as accepting that it is ok to be broken and need fixing by a professional, shouldn't be that great as compared to say the case of a religionist doing the same. When it comes to issues of the mind, it is vital that you realize that there is a problem that needs to be treated. Fortunately, people with this condition can go on to having a better quality of life. ![]() |
Re: . by Fvcknames: 8:22am On Nov 09, 2020 |
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Re: . by Fvcknames: 8:28am On Nov 09, 2020 |
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Re: . by LordReed(m): 11:32am On Nov 09, 2020 |
Fvcknames: Hmmmm, I am not a nihilist nor do I even think nihilism is a good position. Also Marcus Aurelius was not a nihilist, he was a stoic so may be thats why you couldn't keep up. On the other hand I don't think philosophers would want you to make a doctrine out of their works, rather they provide a guide for you to chart your own course through life. May be you are being too hard on yourself thinking there are some rules you must follow. I think you should ease up, take stock of what you do have and work with it. Layer your own expectations with your own capabilities and stop trying to live up to other peoples ideals, no one is perfect not even the philosophers themselves. Yeah sure there probably is no grand purpose to the universe but who says you can't create one for yourself? As long as it is not seeking to harm others or yourself have at it. Your purpose can be as simple as having a taste of every food in world. Buddy create one and make it yours. Finally, if your depression has lasted for more than 2 weeks, seek help. Believe me you'll be glad you did. |
Re: . by Fvcknames: 1:07pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
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Re: . by LordReed(m): 1:28pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Fvcknames: Ah that's fine then. I suggest you look into the Epicurean philosophy then. IMO it has better well rounded tenets. |
Re: . by Fvcknames: 1:46pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
LordReed:Just had a look and I'll delve a bit deeper. It makes a lot of sense tho. |
Re: . by Nobody: 2:54pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Fvcknames:LordReed made a number of salient points that I think you can find helpful (though I don't agree with all his points). The Epicurean philosophy is beneficial as he said. However, instead of devoting oneself to a specific philosophy, I think it's wiser to study various philosophies, pick reasonable points from the beneficial ones, and avoid the dangerous ones I feel a better approach to life is to develop one's personal philosophy from the benefits of various philosophies with depth, instead of considering a specific philosophy as a doctrine or a life guide. This is because no philosophy is the ultimate or perfect, since all of them are man-made. The philosophies we admire and learn shape our lives. Nihilism can be a dangerous philosophy for an average Nigerian youth, who is struggling with finances, bad governance, and other ills in this part of the world. While life appears as if it has no meaning or purpose to some, I don't think it's. Then, I feel it's wiser to find a purpose for one's life, and look for ways to give meaning to one's life. Life is a product of our actions, decisions, and we're co-creators of our realities. Also, life is a lot deeper than the way science or religion paints it. For any average human, what's unknown far outweighs what's known. If you follow scientific research on a number of issues, such as cosmology, nature of matter, you will know that the vast majority of what constitutes the universe is yet to be discovered or even explored. So, a person can't be 100% sure existence ends immediately an individual dies. Philosophies such as those of religion (Muhammad's, Jesus', etc.) do more harm than good overall because of their numerous superstitious, self-limiting beliefs. Nihilism can also be a dangerous philosophy for an average person struggling with hard times. Apart from the Epicurean philosophy, the Otemic philosophy is also a good one. If you're interested in it, you can get OtemAtum's Book of Universal History (the PDF) or go through his threads. His explanations of various concepts in religion have a lot of depth and are quite reasonable. |
Re: . by Fvcknames: 4:18pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
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Re: . by Nobody: 5:04pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Fvcknames:Okay. My own stance is life has meaning, purpose. A person creates their reality (whether consciously or unconsciously) by their beliefs, actions, decisions. Life is all about experience, discovery. At the end of the day, it's the experience one gets in a particular endeavor or experiences one gets in life that really matter, not material acquisitions. What an average person sees as reality is what the brain tells him/her, not what really exists. Reality exists on multiple levels, physical, astral (via lucid dreams, OOBE), mental, and spiritual. The core of a human is the soul (consciousness), and the brain is an organ of the soul. As it's said in hermetic philosophy, the universe is mental. What we see as reality (the fleeting life) is only a manifestation of the inner universe, i.e. the physical universe is a sort of projected reality of the inner universe, not bound by time and space. Everything starts from within (one's inner world). Thus, it's a person (a soul) that gives meaning or purpose to their life on earth, which is only a tiny fragment of the person's existence (as life has no end and goes on after death in other universes or via reincarnation to earth). There are many aspects of reality that are far deeper than the physical, which scientists are yet to discover. That something can't be measured as of yet doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Anyone that's familiar with the history of science will understand this point. That's my own view (philosophy) about life. |
Re: . by Dtruthspeaker: 5:12pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Philosophy is like choosing which Transporter shall take you to your destination or which you hope will take you to your destination, whether you enjoy the trip or not, is a different matter and whether you get to your destination is another different matter. |
Re: . by Fvcknames: 5:27pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
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Re: . by Fvcknames: 5:28pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:And what transporter did you choose? |
Re: . by johnhood(m): 5:57pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Most of what you shared here is what I feel except that I want to make a lot of money to touch humanity immensely. |
Re: . by Dtruthspeaker: 6:27pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Re: . by Fvcknames: 6:34pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Re: . by Fvcknames: 6:37pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
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Re: . by Dtruthspeaker: 6:39pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Fvcknames: Bros, na so oh, I love myself and enjoyment 3musch |
Re: . by Dtruthspeaker: 6:40pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Fvcknames: You won't! You think you will but you won't! And you know this your statement "I consider the universe to be pointless given that I believe death to be the last bus stop" is a lie too. |
Re: . by Nobody: 6:41pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Fvcknames:There are many things that can't be proven scientifically or measured/detected yet but they exist, and there's evidence for them. The real aspect of a person is the soul (consciousness), and that part never dies. It is only the body, which is the temporal, ephemeral aspect that experiences biological death. In reality, there's really no death as what we see as death is only a translation of consciousness (of a soul) to another realm (i.e. death is soul transition). There are deeper aspects of reality that scientists have only started to get hints about. "The universe we can see is only a fraction of the great cosmic beyond. Galaxies, stars, planets, humans, trees — all of it comprises just 5% of the energy and matter in the universe. "Among tangible matter, as opposed to the mysterious cosmic rending force called dark energy, only about 15% is the stuff we can detect. As for the rest, it comes in the unknown form known as dark matter." https://www.quantamagazine.org/harvard-cosmologist-cora-dvorkin-dreams-in-dark-matter-20201105/ That's a quote from a recent study on dark matter and shares the opinion of many cosmologists and astrophysicists about the observable universe and matter. In some esoteric philosophies (including Otemic philosophy as well), a person has dual-form: flesh (matter, the body) and light (the soul, a kind of wave). Most of what's been known about a human in science is the physical (flesh) aspect. A person is also a light (the soul, a kind of wave that's extremely hard to detect and measure). People that do OOBE would have seen their light form, which has an astral body, known as the spirit. Also, people that have experienced NDE would have seen it as well. There are several papers on OOBE, and various projects have been organized by some scientists to study it. Also, there's already a theoretical background in Physics for this duality, known as wave-particle duality. In the future, scientists will record breakthroughs about these things, including dark matter and dark energy, which are also extremely hard to detect and measure. According to some scientists, there are multiple universes (multiverse). While various studies have been published about this concept over the past 5 decades, no evidence has been seen yet proving the hypothesis right. However in some philosophies (such as the Otemic), a universe exists before the current one (i.e. before the Big Bang). In the Otemic philosophy, there are infinite number of universes, created by big bangs that are still happening. According to that philosophy, the sole purpose of existence is to discover and explore these universes. Or a soul can choose to be reincarnated back to earth. My own opinion is that ours isn't the only universe in existence. As regards reincarnation, it's hard to prove it's real to a sceptic. My own stance is that it's real. A number of scientists have studied the concept of reincarnation. Ian Stevenson and Jim B. Tucker are popular scientists that posit reincarnation does happen. You can check out some studies of those experts: 1. https://www.scribd.com/doc/36464062/Ian-Stevenson-Where-Reincarnation-and-Biology-Intersect 2. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/ian-stevensone28099s-case-for-the-afterlife-are-we-e28098skepticse28099-really-just-cynics/ 3. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_B._Tucker Some common proofs for reincarnation: 1. https://www.liveabout.com/reincarnation-best-evidence-2593151 2. https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/716499/reincarnation-REAL-proof-life-after-death/amp Reincarnation is a concept in almost all religions around the world (whether directly or indirectly) and in many cultures worldwide. While each of those religions contains a lot of superstitious beliefs, I feel a handful of those beliefs are real. These are reincarnation, soul (consciousness), spirit (the astral body of a person). Things like ghosts, demons don't exist. Spirits of the dead belong in other realms and don't intervene in the physical worlds. |
Re: . by Fvcknames: 6:44pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: Lol, If u say so. Just curious as to why u think so |
Re: . by fredwill1357(m): 6:48pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Yeah, am a nihilist, I believe everything is meaningless, the purpose of my life cur Fvcknames:. |
Re: . by johnhood(m): 6:51pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Fvcknames: I always feel sorry for people and feel like I have to make money to help poor people. But I have not been able to take care of myself and my mother and siblings talkmore of others. When I think about it I will always enter depressed. |
Re: . by Dtruthspeaker: 6:52pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Fvcknames: ![]() |
Re: . by Dtruthspeaker: 6:55pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
johnhood: People without money, do not and can not know about having money. They are experts in the knowledge of "not having money" than in having money. |
Re: . by Fvcknames: 6:58pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
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Re: . by Nobody: 7:01pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Fvcknames:Sure, that's normal. Stay blessed, too. |
Re: . by Fvcknames: 7:02pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
johnhood:Damn bro, we need more people like you in the world. I always wonder how humans can have such different levels of empathy. Hopefully you get what you wish for so others can benefit from you |
Re: . by Fvcknames: 7:06pm On Nov 09, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:Lolz. Tbh I agree with you. I could be a completely changed man once money starts coming in because I know a lot of rich douchebags did not think they'll be douchebags when they were broke. I'm simply stating what I'll do with my current mentality and hopefully that wouldn't change. |
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