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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 10:07pm On Nov 09, 2020
budaatum:

I think we should direct this to ourselves. Are we not tired of his nonsense yet?

Do you read his post?

Once I sight a MAGA monicker I scroll down immediately I can't lose braincells reading their trash.
To think adults are the ones spewing unfounded rubbish amazes me and you wonder the kind of education they got. undecided

What a sorry state like Biden said last month these Qanon conspiracy nutcases need mental help.I used to read it as a story or fiction back then just to think of it as an alternative fact I never for once took it serious because these things are mainly mischief and meant to sow discord and misinfornation but to think adults take this thing seriously to the extent of believing that many of these things are real makes me believe that mental health must be taken seriously especially in this country.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:08pm On Nov 09, 2020
Kophschmerzen:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/i-was-asked-to-lie-about-hunter-biden-admits-ukrainian-businessman-853krxgtz

Where are the Hunter Biden gang.

I'm here .

Trump devoted a chapter of his bestseller on the sweetness of revenge.
He wins He takes down criminals.
He loses he exposes the fraud of leftists.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 10:08pm On Nov 09, 2020
Kophschmerzen:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/i-was-asked-to-lie-about-hunter-biden-admits-ukrainian-businessman-853krxgtz

Where are the Hunter Biden gang.
Not suprised one bit. Trump himself is an embodiment of lies.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 10:09pm On Nov 09, 2020
Former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith has agreed to plead guilty to falsifying a document.

Because the FBI is a federal law enforcement agency with the power to arrest and charge Americans for crimes, falsifying a document is pretty serious business.

It’s even more serious when you find out what he falsified: an email from the CIA. The altered document was used to persuade the highly secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to approve the FBI’s application for a third renewal of a secret wiretap on an American citizen.

Stop and think about that for just a minute. The United States government’s law enforcement agency falsified a document from the U.S. government’s intelligence agency in order to persuade a judicial body to approve secret surveillance of an American.


It’s important to look at this quietly and thoughtfully, because what’s at stake here is the protection of constitutional rights and liberty. There are some things the government is not permitted to do to U.S. citizens, and secretly wiretapping them without first meeting the strict requirements of the law is certainly high on that list.

The citizen victimized by this abuse of power was Carter Page, a former Trump campaign adviser. Page, an energy executive with contacts in Russia, joined the campaign in the spring of 2016 as part of the ad hoc foreign policy team assembled during the primary season.

The FBI’s Russia inquiry began on July 31, 2016, as a counter-intelligence investigation aimed at finding out if Russia was trying to recruit U.S. persons to be witting or unwitting foreign agents. Investigators suspected that Carter Page had been targeted by Russian spies.

A few weeks later, on Aug. 17, the CIA provided to some members of the FBI team conducting the investigation, named “Crossfire Hurricane,” documents indicating that Carter Page had been an “operational contact” for the CIA, someone who provided the U.S. government with information derived from his conversations with Russian officials.

In October 2016, the FBI asked the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to approve a secret wiretap of Page, who was by then a former campaign adviser. The application for the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant alleged that there was probable cause to believe that Carter Page was the agent of a foreign power, Russia. The application omitted the information that Page had been working for years with the CIA.

When nothing incriminating turned up from the wiretap, the FBI sought a renewal of the warrant, which was approved on Jan. 12, 2017, just days before Trump was inaugurated. A second renewal was sought and approved on April 7. The FISA court still was not told that Page had worked with the CIA as a source.

The FBI decided to seek a third renewal of the warrant. This time the FBI’s investigator sought to clarify Page’s role with the CIA.

That’s when Kevin Clinesmith changed an email from the CIA, which confirmed Page’s role. He altered “is” to “is not” a source.

The FBI investigators seeking the surveillance warrant gave this altered email to the FISA court, and on June 29, 2017, the court approved a third renewal of the authorization to secretly wiretap a U.S. citizen.

Clinesmith has now agreed to plead guilty to one felony count of making a false statement.

This is only one of the pieces of the puzzle now being assembled by U.S. Attorney John Durham, who was appointed by Attorney General William Barr to investigate the FBI’s “Crossfire Hurricane” investigation. We could see indictments for illegal leaks of secret information and perhaps for other crimes.
It’s easy to view these events through the lens of political alignment, but it’s important to separate the principles from the principals.


In the 1970s, revelations of abuses by the nation’s intelligence and law enforcement agencies led to hearings on Capitol Hill, chaired by U.S. Sen. Frank Church, D-Idaho. The Church committee’s 96 recommendations led to the enactment of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act in 1978. The law created the FISA court to review applications for secret warrants, part of the effort “to place intelligence activities within the constitutional scheme.”

That’s what’s at stake here. Don’t let political noise trick you into dismissing the importance of your rights as an American.

https://www.ocregister.com/2020/08/18/the-significance-of-a-kevin-clinesmith-guilty-plea/
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:11pm On Nov 09, 2020
armyofone:
But no need to fire anyone when you are about to leave your position. You continue the hand over process with your last batch of staff no matter how good or bad. Being vindictive is not good.


Since when were they good to him, stonewalling efforts to drain the swamp
Trump does not play by Mr Nice guy rules.
His purpose is to kill DC corruption. not put it on a marijuana high like Salford

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 10:14pm On Nov 09, 2020
Quite interesting!

Will like to see those who voted for Trump.

PDPGuy:
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 10:15pm On Nov 09, 2020
I had to post that Clinesmith story up there - because many folks in here don't know what's going on!
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:17pm On Nov 09, 2020
basilico:


I trust but verify. Thanks to my education .
I stated clearly it would be big if true, so far I'm still treating as a prank by 4chan.

What was your education? What did you study?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:21pm On Nov 09, 2020
ono:
Former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith has agreed to plead guilty to falsifying a document.

Because the FBI is a federal law enforcement agency with the power to arrest and charge Americans for crimes, falsifying a document is pretty serious business.

It’s even more serious when you find out what he falsified: an email from the CIA. The altered document was used to persuade the highly secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to approve the FBI’s application for a third renewal of a secret wiretap on an American citizen.

Stop and think about that for just a minute. The United States government’s law enforcement agency falsified a document from the U.S. government’s intelligence agency in order to persuade a judicial body to approve secret surveillance of an American.


It’s important to look at this quietly and thoughtfully, because what’s at stake here is the protection of constitutional rights and liberty. There are some things the government is not permitted to do to U.S. citizens, and secretly wiretapping them without first meeting the strict requirements of the law is certainly high on that list.

The citizen victimized by this abuse of power was Carter Page, a former Trump campaign adviser. Page, an energy executive with contacts in Russia, joined the campaign in the spring of 2016 as part of the ad hoc foreign policy team assembled during the primary season.

The FBI’s Russia inquiry began on July 31, 2016, as a counter-intelligence investigation aimed at finding out if Russia was trying to recruit U.S. persons to be witting or unwitting foreign agents. Investigators suspected that Carter Page had been targeted by Russian spies.

A few weeks later, on Aug. 17, the CIA provided to some members of the FBI team conducting the investigation, named “Crossfire Hurricane,” documents indicating that Carter Page had been an “operational contact” for the CIA, someone who provided the U.S. government with information derived from his conversations with Russian officials.

In October 2016, the FBI asked the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to approve a secret wiretap of Page, who was by then a former campaign adviser. The application for the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant alleged that there was probable cause to believe that Carter Page was the agent of a foreign power, Russia. The application omitted the information that Page had been working for years with the CIA.

When nothing incriminating turned up from the wiretap, the FBI sought a renewal of the warrant, which was approved on Jan. 12, 2017, just days before Trump was inaugurated. A second renewal was sought and approved on April 7. The FISA court still was not told that Page had worked with the CIA as a source.

The FBI decided to seek a third renewal of the warrant. This time the FBI’s investigator sought to clarify Page’s role with the CIA.

That’s when Kevin Clinesmith changed an email from the CIA, which confirmed Page’s role. He altered “is” to “is not” a source.

The FBI investigators seeking the surveillance warrant gave this altered email to the FISA court, and on June 29, 2017, the court approved a third renewal of the authorization to secretly wiretap a U.S. citizen.

Clinesmith has now agreed to plead guilty to one felony count of making a false statement.

This is only one of the pieces of the puzzle now being assembled by U.S. Attorney John Durham, who was appointed by Attorney General William Barr to investigate the FBI’s “Crossfire Hurricane” investigation. We could see indictments for illegal leaks of secret information and perhaps for other crimes.
It’s easy to view these events through the lens of political alignment, but it’s important to separate the principles from the principals.


In the 1970s, revelations of abuses by the nation’s intelligence and law enforcement agencies led to hearings on Capitol Hill, chaired by U.S. Sen. Frank Church, D-Idaho. The Church committee’s 96 recommendations led to the enactment of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act in 1978. The law created the FISA court to review applications for secret warrants, part of the effort “to place intelligence activities within the constitutional scheme.”

That’s what’s at stake here. Don’t let political noise trick you into dismissing the importance of your rights as an American.

https://www.ocregister.com/2020/08/18/the-significance-of-a-kevin-clinesmith-guilty-plea/

Hey Ono, they falsified the FISA warrant to get to legally surveil Carter Page.
The actual warrant to surveil him was built on a simple type. Surveil two levels of his contacts. If he was talking to Mr X who in turn was in contact with Mr Y, the type of warrant granted allowed FBI to collect all comms from Carter Page, Mr X and Mr Y And not just simple comms, they were allowed to collect all emails, phone calls, GSM locations on the two tiers of his contacts.
In short since Carter Page had contact with say Jared Kushner who had contacts with Trump , the warrant allowed FBI to collect everything on Kushner and Trump.
These are the crimes that they don't want Durham or Trump to expose, to an extent of starting a civil war.
theconservativetreehouse.com has more details on the whole shenanigans.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:24pm On Nov 09, 2020
budaatum:

What was your education? What did you study?

The science of using my common sense to make sense out of any situation facing me, be it legal, technical.
A degree in life.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 10:26pm On Nov 09, 2020
basilico:


Hey Ono, they falsified the FISA warrant to get to legally surveil Carter Page.
The actual warrant to surveil him was built on a simple type. Surveil two levels of his contacts. If he was talking to Mr X who in turn was in contact with Mr Y, the type of warrant granted allowed FBI to collect all comms from Carter Page, Mr X and Mr Y And not just simple comms, they were allowed to collect all emails, phone calls, GSM locations on the two tiers of his contacts.
In short since Carter Page had contact with say Jared Kushner who had contacts with Trump , the warrant allowed FBI to collect everything on Kushner and Trump.
These are the crimes that they don't want Durham or Trump to expose, to an extent of starting a civil war.
theconservativetreehouse.com has more details on the whole shenanigans.

Will check them out too - I mean theconservativetreehouse.com.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:29pm On Nov 09, 2020
basilico:


The science of using my common sense to make sense out of any situation facing me, be it legal, technical.
A degree in life.
So, you did not go to school? Figures.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:32pm On Nov 09, 2020
budaatum:
So, you did not go to school? Figures.
More apparent like you did not. Military science teaches one a lot. How to be mentally stable.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 10:34pm On Nov 09, 2020
budaatum:

Just admit you believe it already before knowing if it's true or not!

Never seen a set of idioots like those people before..You claimed you were rigged,but instead of providing the information,you are asking people to please come forward with evidences of voter fraud..As in shebi you said them steal from you,then bring the evidence of it naa.You even went further to open an line to report allegations of voter fraud.

Dumbos

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 10:34pm On Nov 09, 2020
budaatum:

I think we should direct this to ourselves. Are we not tired of his nonsense yet?
Americans drunk on conspiracy theories might be able to get mental health help. However, the trumptards in Nigeria (like the woman in the screenshot below and the ones on this thread) are the ones in trouble. They have fallen so deep into the abyss coupled with the bad health care service in Nigeria equals hopeless situation grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:35pm On Nov 09, 2020
basilico:


More apparent like you did not. Military science teaches one a lot.
How to be mentally stable.
I can only assume you failed to attend class. Your reasoning does not agree with your studies.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 10:35pm On Nov 09, 2020
basilico:


More apparent like you did not. Military science teaches one a lot.
How to be mentally stable.

LOL..All they do these days is to repost grafitis...shallow thinking, lazy spoilt brats. Feed on fake news all day long and come and spew garbage all over the place!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 10:36pm On Nov 09, 2020
budaatum:

I can only assume you failed to attend class. Your reasoning does not agree with your studies.
We don't call him a regular customer for nothing grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:36pm On Nov 09, 2020
salford1:

Americans drunk on conspiracy theories might be able to get mental health help. However, the trumptards in Nigeria (like the woman in the screenshot below and the ones on this thread) are the ones in trouble. They have fallen so deep into the abyss coupled with the bad health care service in Nigeria equals hopeless situation grin
Here's another. Plus one smart Nigerian's comment

https://www.nairaland.com/6243931/kamala-harris-jezebel-femi-fani-kayode#95854345

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:36pm On Nov 09, 2020
budaatum:

I can only assume you failed to attend class. Your reasoning does not agree with your studies.

Okay.
Please yourself.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 10:37pm On Nov 09, 2020
budaatum:

Here's another. Plus one smart Nigerian's comment

https://www.nairaland.com/6243931/kamala-harris-jezebel-femi-fani-kayode#95854345
That's a good one grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:38pm On Nov 09, 2020
ono:


LOL..All they do these days is to repost grafitis...shallow thinking, lazy spoilt brats. Feed on fake news all day long and come and spew garbage all over the place!
Isn't this precisely what we said about you?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ono(m): 10:39pm On Nov 09, 2020
budaatum:

Isn't this precisely what we said about you?


You don't want to get in on this with me, trust me. basilico is enough to take care of you.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:41pm On Nov 09, 2020
happney65:


Never seen a set of idioots like those people before..You claimed you were rigged,but instead of providing the information,you are asking people to please come forward with evidences of voter fraud..As in shebi you said them steal from you,then bring the evidence of it naa.You even went further to open an line to report allegations of voter fraud.

Dumbos
And some brainless idiots here can't see all this for what it is!! I'm just so glad the majority are not like them.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 10:41pm On Nov 09, 2020
budaatum:

Isn't this precisely what we said about you?

grin
All they do is litter the thread with junks from white supremacists/racists websites and blogs

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 10:41pm On Nov 09, 2020
ono:


You don't want to get in on this with me, trust me. basilico is enough to take care of you.
I'm trembling in fear already, lol.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:44pm On Nov 09, 2020
I called PA flipping after SC rejects mailin votes received after 8 pm election night.

Ohio Attorney General
Asks US Supreme Court to
Overturn Ruling that
Extended Deadline For
Mail-in Ballots in
Pennsylvania

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 10:44pm On Nov 09, 2020
budaatum:

I'm trembling in fear already, lol.
That picture grin grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 10:46pm On Nov 09, 2020
I am about to turn up the anger level of some people here grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 10:47pm On Nov 09, 2020
The ones in Nigeria and Ghana are something else. I told someone thank goodness you aren't voting. For Nigeria, you guys need to vote for the right person not the ones that give you deal or bag of rice, goodnight!

salford1:

Americans drunk on conspiracy theories might be able to get mental health help. However, the trumptards in Nigeria (like the woman in the screenshot below and the ones on this thread) are the ones in trouble. They have fallen so deep into the abyss coupled with the bad health care service in Nigeria equals hopeless situation grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 10:48pm On Nov 09, 2020
How front pages across the US reported a new president.
cool

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 10:49pm On Nov 09, 2020
grin

Sorry sore losers.

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