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An Angel Vs A god by BlueAngel444: 7:30am On Nov 15, 2020 |
Otem are you ready OtemAtum: You say totality of existence like existence is expressionless. But if it indeed it is the sum total of all expressions and character then it is rightly define as IT IS WHAT IT IS, or IT BECOMES WHAT IT BECOMES. I AM THAT I AM, THE ONE WHO IS. The Hebrews therefore are right when the term YHVH is given as the name of God, who is the sum total of God the protector, the provider, the healer, the banner, the righteous, the judge, the one can be whoever he deems fit at any point in time, who was before the beginning and will be even after. And yet with all these names due to encounters there one command hanged on their doors and dorms; Hear oh Israel, the LORD thy God is one. One as an expression of love, an expression of unity and not separation or difference or disagreement but He is who He is. The one who moved in the pillar of fire is the same one who moved in the pillar of cloud. The one who formed the light and created darkness, who called the first day and made the heaven the next. The one who laid waste to nations and rose up countries. The one who gives and the one who takes. The one to whom all other gods flee. The one who hides and also chooses to reveal himself. The one who went to nations with multiple gods and crippled them. The one who speaks and does what he says. If He calls Himself Jehovah, Yahweh, YHVH, creator, the all in all and declares of himself upon a mountain with fire to a nation of men and make both them and the nations around tremble. He did not just reveal himself to an old man in a burning bush, to bury the army of the then greatest nation on earth to announce his presence, in a day he made all stars and lights in the heavens. Jehovah means maker, means creator, means cause of all existence. How can you say that a car that means vehicle is not mobile because it is not spelt as motor. You are right Jehovah God is not the totality of existence, he is the cause of all existence and not the sum total of it. He is creator and not creation, but there is one who bears creation without whom what was and is made could never have existed but exists by him and through him. |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by OtemAtum: 8:44am On Nov 15, 2020 |
I like your oratory, but this argument isn't about oration but about the reality of life. The Hebrews gave their god a name YHVH and that is where it stays. This god has history, the history of this god is well documented in the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY. This god ruled Israel once, died and became deified as God Almighty. But that still doesn't have anything to do with the fact that this god is not the God Almighty, which is the Totality of Existence. Jehovah is a mere fragment of existence, so he is far away from being God Almighty. If Jehovah means Maker, it doesn't still mean that he is the Universal God. You can check out for the meaning of the names Vishnu, Brahma, Shiva, Allah, Ahura Mazda, etc. yet it doesn't make them God Almighty. Names are just nomenclature given to people or things. You can bear the name GREATEST, yet it doesn't make you the greatest. You can bear Hazard, yet it doesn't make you hazardous. So whatever name Jehovah bears or whatever his name means, that doesn't erase the fact that he is one of the creatures of God Almighty and it is well documented in the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY and Jehovah himself cannot gainsay it. 1 Like |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by BlueAngel444: 9:59am On Nov 15, 2020 |
OtemAtum:I know God Almighty ruled Israel, because He brought them out and I know LORD God Almighty has no recorded history as to be recorded by any man. I know no god you speak of, but of men who claim to be gods, such ones die like mere men. For God Almighty cannot die, life cannot die, for life is not death, an no god or those who claim so can be Almighty. I agree with you that that god was not and is not God Almighty who GAVE HIMSELF the name Yahweh, for we mortals call him God Almighty. is a mere fragment of existence, so he is far away from being God Almighty.yes there is a god of the said human universe and the ones of each multiverse as they claim to be, in their fames and myths. A name is a description that describes one's properties. Don't mind the modern myopia of naming the ancients called out names as a form which describes what makes up an existence. a fact can be fabricated by the one who makes it as long as he sustains it but when it fades like all works of men only the truth remains. by the way do insinuate that an Almighty God cannot give himself a name? I doubt you would answer that as you have avoided the previous ones |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by OtemAtum: 12:58pm On Nov 15, 2020 |
BlueAngel444:Any being that has ever ruled a locality on earth or on any other planet isn't God Almighty, but one of the gods. How does it sound to you that God Almighty (The totality of existence) will limit itself to one insignificant confinement of the universe (aka Israel) for thousands of years and other nations didn't know about about it until through colonisation, war, internet inventions and genocides its knowledge was brought to other parts of the world? It's only local gods that are known for that. For example, the internet made many people in Nigeria know about Vishnu, Brahma, Buddha, Ahura Mazda, etc. while colonisation and terrorism made some know about Jehovah, Allah etc. So how do any of these local gods qualify as God Almighty to you? :I'm sorry to tell you that your god Jehovah also died like the rest of these gods and his history is well documented in the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY. Yahweh even died by committing suicide. The Book of Truth don't lie, go and read it up. Jehovah died and himself can't deny this fact. Currently he is in a spiritual cage where the gods of science have subjected him to. :I have answered many people the embolden. God Almighty, the creator of Jehovah, Allah, Atum, Vishnu, etc did not give itself any name, but its first humanlike creatures like Atum, Jehovah, Moloch, Allah used to call him Reverad in those days(Reverad means THE GREATEST) and Mirosh(the Maker of the Multiverse). :Please be specific, which of your questions have I avoided in the past? 1 Like |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by Nobody: 1:01pm On Nov 15, 2020 |
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Re: An Angel Vs A god by BlueAngel444: 2:31pm On Nov 15, 2020 |
OtemAtum:a ruler is not defined by the locality he rules but the territory his name is revered. The president rules a state doesn't mean he doesn't rule the whole country. Did Roman Emperor didn't just rule Rome did he and neither did ruling other foreign nations limit his ability and that is for a mere mortal. I ask you again does having a name dignify or humility God Almighty or does ruling men seem beneath him to you. I'm sorry to tell you that your god Jehovah also died like the rest of these gods and his history is well documented in the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY. Yahweh even died by committing suicide. The Book of Truth don't lie, go and read it up. Jehovah died and himself can't deny this fact. Currently he is in a spiritual cage where the gods of science have subjected him to.first of, like i said gods are men who call themselves so, and they die. And the gods both caged and cager i do not know but what i know I tell you. isn't it amusing how you believe something like gods of science, let me guess there is a god of maths, a god of English and they keep evolving. So what is there evolution based on. Men's request or there inability to foresee their own errors. Pharaoh in Egypt was warned by God in a dream, Abraham did not preach to him because God Almighty doesn't need a man to speak for him, unlike the dead gods you mention. Ofcourse from the time of Noah, the sons of Noah and generations after have given the One who created all things and saved the life of a few, many names. you think you know history but what you don't know is men have lied and used the name of anything or any god to gain power for themselves and prestige, but we all die and those lies and glory fade with time and new fables a born because a God exists and many men fail to describe Him, because He doesn't reveal Himself to all let's focus on the current questions If he has no name them he cannot be called but if he was called and he answered then that is his name. Jehovah, or Yahweh, or YHVH was a description, a way God Almighty described Himself it is not amusing that people can believe in alternate realities but choice not to believe in God Almighty because they have not seen him ![]() Atum is one of the most useless creations among men of godtale. What purpose have you given Atum or Otem anyway how do you know God Almighty? |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by Nobody: 3:27pm On Nov 15, 2020 |
One of the many concepts in the Bible that look like children's stories. Gullibility and religion are an inseparable pair.
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Re: An Angel Vs A god by OtemAtum: 3:33pm On Nov 15, 2020 |
BlueAngel444:Some of the Roman Emperors have been deified, but that still didn't make them God Almighty. That Jehovah your puny god was deified some thousands of years ago doesn't make him God Almighty. Your idea of God Almighty is a no no in China, India and Saudi Arabia. They have their own gods whom they assume to be God Almighty. So you don't need to go far to know that as your little Jehovah exists and seems to you as God Almighty, so also do other little gods like Allah, Ahura Mazda, Moloch, Vishnu, etc exist in other places and seem to their followers as God Almighty, but the fact remains that both your Jehovah and their Allah, Vishnu, Moloch etc were created by God Almighty (The Totality of Existence). :God Almighty doesn't behave like humans who are after ruling, warring, acquiring power, etc because God is TOTALITY OF EXISTENCE and it is not humanlike like Jehivah, Allah and other power mongers. The name you call God depends on you humans, because God isn't human who have to name itself. Ruling like religious gods do is out of place while talking about God Almighty, because God Almighty is Everything, so what is the rule for? We are parts of God Almighty, so we are the ones who need to do the rulings and I'm not surprised seeing gods like Allah, Jehovah, Moloch, Ahura Mazda, Enlil, Any etc fighting for power and human minds. God Almighty(Totality of Existence) doesn't do such. :I'm happy you know that gods are men. I'm isn't to inform you that Jehovah your god is also a man who died by suicide and was deified by his followers back then. You won't see this fact in your bible, same way a Muslim won't see the fact that Allah was a deified man in their Quran. But the Book of Universal History has all these histories without fear and favour. :Now let me school you on gods. When we say gods, it simply means makers, little little makers. For example, Jehovah is a little maker. What did he make? He made the religion called Judaism and was also adopted by Christianity. What did Allah make that makes him a god? He made the religion called Islam? What did Ahura Mazda make? He made Zoroastrianism. The gods of science are people who have made their marks in sciences. The gods of music are experts in music. Mind you, when we die, we still have our passions with us and we can still work on them in the afterlives. Our potentials don't die, so hearing that gods of science aka Atum, Galileo Galilei, Albert Einstein etc. captured your god Jehovah and thousands of other religious gods should not be strange to you. Concerning your question about these gods evolving, I didn't know who mentioned that to you, but one thing in life that is constant is change and of course times, attitudes, mannerisms, etc. change, but that isn't part of my argument with you thought. ![]() :All these are 'tales by moonlights' that didn't happen. When Jehovah(aka Mosheh) was on earth in his last reincarnation, he couldn't even come near the greatness of the Egyptians. He merely stole their histories and plagiarised them. Go and read the Book of Universal History for details. Jehovah would have fallen down to worship any Egyptian Pharaohs and even lick his shoes if they happen to cross path in those days. :Fables, tales, etc have been existing about one god or the other, but no book has been able to reveal what Exactly God Almighty is. But here comes the Book of Truth where it was revealed exactly how these lies and myths were formed, how many years they lasted and for those still ongoing, how many years further they will last. Some of these myths lasted 20 centuries, some 45 centuries, some 10 centuries, etc. The tales and myths of the bible and the quran have been declared by the LIGHT OF GOD ALMIGHTY that it would have lost its value and fade away before year 3000. In fact, year 2625 is the year when these two myths especially will be so much laughed about and if you are observant, you would have noticed how people laugh about bible and quranic stories in our days already. :So people who called on Vishnu in India and sacrificed cows to him and coincidentally got answers to their requests, that makes God's name Vishnu? Or people who worship Satan and called his name and coincidentally got answers, then Satan is the name of God Almighty? ![]() ![]() ![]() 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by OtemAtum: 4:10pm On Nov 15, 2020 |
Blueagent444: First of all, is your god a male or a female? I see you refer to him as a 'he'. If your god is a male, automatically he isn't the Totality of Existence and he is not qualified as God because in Existence we have both male and female genders, not to talk of neuters etc. :This is your conclusion and you are entitled to say whatever you wish about one god or the other. We thinkers all know that among all the gods, Jehovah is the dumbest and the most foolish, but I don't need to dwell on that for now. :Back in 2015/2016 December 31st/January 1st respectively, I got the GREAT REVELATION concerning what God is, what religion is and what I am and since then till date, I have not wavered in the way of truth and I can confidently tell you that GOD IS THE SUM TOTAL OF EXISTENCE. IT IS NEITHER CREATED NOR CAN BE DESTROYED. IT IS THE SOURCE OF ALL ENERGIES. 1 Like |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by BlueAngel444: 4:58pm On Nov 15, 2020 |
OtemAtum:you saying some means not all Besides never cared what that makes them That Jehovah your puny god was deified some thousands of years ago doesn't make him God Almighty. Your idea of God Almighty is a no no in China, India and Saudi Arabia. They have their own gods whom they assume to be God Almighty. So you don't need to go far to know that as your little Jehovah exists and seems to you as God Almighty, so also do other little gods like Allah, Ahura Mazda, Moloch, Vishnu, etc exist in other places and seem to their followers as God Almighty, but the fact remains that both your Jehovah and their Allah, Vishnu, Moloch etc were created by God Almighty (The Totality of Existence).this still doesn't answer the question of who you call or say God Almighty is and how you found out about him. Did he appear to you or speak to you. It's easy to just say the universe and all creation is God Almighty and remove any form of personality. But if you describe what is behold him it's like stating an infinity with no form. Are you saying your god is formless endless space or are you afraid that putting a definition to him and who he is God Almighty doesn't behave like humans who are after ruling, warring, acquiring power, etc because God is TOTALITY OF EXISTENCE and it is not humanlike like Jehivah, Allah and other power mongers. The name you call God depends on you humans, because God isn't human who have to name itself. Ruling like religious gods do is out of place while talking about God Almighty, because God Almighty is Everything, so what is the rule for? We are parts of God Almighty, so we are the ones who need to do the rulings and I'm not surprised seeing gods like Allah, Jehovah, Moloch, Ahura Mazda, Enlil, Any etc fighting for power and human minds. God Almighty(Totality of Existence) doesn't do such.You speak about what he is not and not who he is, is that an attempt to create a being separate from the rest with an idea of what he could be but possibly isn't. If your god almighty which is creation, does that mean he a vast expanse of darkness and planets. For that I agree for creation doesn't rule it's self but a creator does, so you are right in your concept that what exists doesn't not rule but you are wrong to deny the truth that that which causes existence rules it. But since those who are little creators imprison other creators, it makes them no rulers of lesser power. So u destroy the concept of a creator to rise a cosmic ideology of a creation. Even practical nature denies ur BS, for the Father rules the son and has power over him and exercises it. Speaking of power. It's time I told you this. Might doesn't mean existence, it means power, the ability to cause a thing to happen or existence and the ability to dominate something. For one to be powerful one lords over something. There an alpower being is one who rules over all. So your idea and concept is flawed from the onset, a mypoic attempt to change the basic meaning of simple words and twist them into defining a logic you cooked up in your head. I'm happy you know that gods are men. I'm isn't to inform you that Jehovah your god is also a man who died by suicide and was deified by his followers back then. You won't see this fact in your bible, same way a Muslim won't see the fact that Allah was a deified man in their Quran. But the Book of Universal History has all these histories without fear and favour.don't get excited too quickly before ur joy is short lived. A fool lacks fear. If indeed you can write or know the history of man you must also know the future of man Now let me school you on gods. When we say gods, it simply means makers, little little makers. For example, Jehovah is a little maker. What did he make? He made the religion called Judaism and was also adopted by Christianity. What did Allah make that makes him a god? He made the religion called Islam? What did Ahura Mazda make? He made Zoroastrianism. The gods of science are people who have made their marks in sciences. The gods of music are experts in music. Mind you, when we die, we still have our passions with us and we can still work on them in the afterlives. Our potentials don't die, so hearing that gods of science aka Atum, Galileo Galilei, Albert Einstein etc. captured your god Jehovah and thousands of other religious gods should not be strange to you. Concerning your question about these gods evolving, I didn't know who mentioned that to you, but one thing in life that is constant is change and of course times, attitudes, mannerisms, etc. change, but that isn't part of my argument with you thought.you are right there was little point is writing this All these are 'tales by moonlights' that didn't happen. When Jehovah(aka Mosheh) was on earth in his last reincarnation, he couldn't even come near the greatness of the Egyptians. He merely stole their histories and plagiarised them. Go and read the Book of Universal History for details. Jehovah would have fallen down to worship any Egyptian Pharaohs and even lick his shoes if they happen to cross path in those days.they were so great, not their gods, but they themselves and they allowed your tiny puny idea of a god to steal and get away with it. Why did they allow that to happen? And why did he steal it? Fables, tales, etc have been existing about one god or the other, but no book has been able to reveal what Exactly God Almighty is. But here comes the Book of Truth where it was revealed exactly how these lies and myths were formed, how many years they lasted and for those still ongoing, how many years further they will last. Some of these myths lasted 20 centuries, some 45 centuries, some 10 centuries, etc. The tales and myths of the bible and the quran have been declared by the LIGHT OF GOD ALMIGHTY that it would have lost its value and fade away before year 3000. In fact, year 2625 is the year when these two myths especially will be so much laughed about and if you are observant, you would have noticed how people laugh about bible and quranic stories in our days already.but how can existence make a declaration when he doesn't rule? And why 3000yrs when scriptures have existed far longer than that? And even from it's inception people have always laughed and not believed, what exactly is the new change? Besides stop referring me, notice how I am not referring to any scripture but making my posts freely, say what you may or what you must but make references to things that can be proved and verified. your so called book of truth is subject to your interpretation of things, but let me dance with you. What purpose those such a book have other than redescribe what is already known and add fables of that which is unknown? So people who called on Vishnu in India and sacrificed cows to him and coincidentally got answers to their requests, that makes God's name Vishnu? Or people who worship Satan and called his name and coincidentally got answers, then Satan is the name of God Almighty?you have little idea how the spirit realm works, or as some call it the otherworld, if you did the concept of sacrifice and blood wouldn't be strange to you |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by BlueAngel444: 5:02pm On Nov 15, 2020 |
gensteejay:Please dumb people shouldn't make side remarks when adults are having a conversation. Wait who called you here self ![]() |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by Nobody: 5:08pm On Nov 15, 2020 |
BlueAngel444:Keep fooling yourself there. Even a person that's confused about his/her gender is claiming adult on Nairaland. Lols. This is my 12th year on Nairaland. Look for something reasonable to say. So far, you've not said anything reasonable. Or better stick to adding and subtracting the wages of Chelsea players. Omo ode. Who called me here? Do you own Nairaland? |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by BlueAngel444: 5:10pm On Nov 15, 2020 |
OtemAtum:shows your understanding of gender only comes from biology. But it's excepted from one with madeup fantasies and stories This is your conclusion and you are entitled to say whatever you wish about one god or the other. We thinkers all know that among all the gods, Jehovah is the dumbest and the most foolish, but I don't need to dwell on that for now.be like you get beef with Jehovah. Anyway that's your viz He was so dumb yet he was able to steal the history of the greatest Egyptians. Who u dey deceive ![]() Back in 2015/2016 December 31st/January 1st respectively, I got the GREAT REVELATION concerning what God is, what religion is and what I am and since then till date, I have not wavered in the way of truth and I can confidently tell you that GOD IS THE SUM TOTAL OF EXISTENCE. IT IS NEITHER CREATED NOR CAN BE DESTROYED. IT IS THE SOURCE OF ALL ENERGIES.ya you must have seen something doesn't mean you have interpreted it correctly. Come on, the wise that do spartial travel hardly reveal what they see until years have passed to gain proper understanding of a sight which rarely occurs. It's either you are lying or what you have seen has been corrupted. I also notice that the many holes your work first initial had, you have over time filled them up slowly. It's a nice story |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by BlueAngel444: 5:19pm On Nov 15, 2020 |
gensteejay: Because someone doesn't tell you doesn't mean they are confused. You are the one who is confused because you are the one who doesn't know. It also goes to show how you project yourself into how you view others. And your easy provocation is born out of unsettled inborn regrets you constantly live with. It's not other people's truths that haunts you but yours. The thing about yourself you hate the most and afraid to look at, so you feel that by attacking others you protect yourself from yourself. You are not an unhappy person and it's sad ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by OtemAtum: 5:25pm On Nov 15, 2020 |
BlueAngel444:Maybe I should put it in this way for clarity sake, IS YOUR god A MALE OR A FEMALE OR A NEUTER GENDER? IF NEUTER, THEN CAN WE REFER TO it AS AN 'it'? Anyways, Jehovah is a he with manhood and it's well documented in the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY. ![]() :The stories written about your god in your bible is what makes him so dumb. He would have been better off writing an autobiography of himself. In the book of universal history, Jehovah even seemed wiser and cleverer than his false stories in the bible. :What I saw and wrote down were checked by those who revealed it to me and where I didn't get precisely, I was corrected and enlightened further by those who revealed it to me. At first I was also making a mistake of thinking that Reverad(Summation of Consciousness) is a 'he' until I was enlightened otherwise and I used 'it' from then till now. Also, at first I didn't know that I was a reincarnated being until Atum told me that I was and then revealed many activities of my past life to me. :If you ever noticed any hole, then I may have been the cause of the supposed holes because I was writing 'religiously' instead of 'scientifically' initially because of my long stay in religion. Can you reveal some of your supposed holes so I can elucidate on them for you? 1 Like |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by Nobody: 5:26pm On Nov 15, 2020 |
I no get time to read lengthy nonsense. Make I leave that confused fellow, the she-male, for Otem ![]() 1 Like |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by OtemAtum: 5:58pm On Nov 15, 2020 |
BlueAngel444:The term 'who' is used for a human being. You have already limited God to a human being by the choice of your word. You made a point and that's exactly my position, that God is formless, shapeless, unlimited, but can take the form of anything, shape of anything, etc. Your own god almighty has the shape of humans out of the uncountable things in existence ![]() ![]() :I have told you that God Almighty is the Totality of Existence. So whatever your own god is, it is just an insignificant fragment of what God Almighty is. :How can you be talking about what causes Existence when it is not possible for what does not exist to cause Existence. Existence is neither created nor could be destroyed. God is the Totality of Existence and it was not caused by anything. It has always been there. Jehovah your god is a very very insignificant fragment of this existence. :So you mean 'Power' doesn't exist or what? Power is just a subset of existence my brother. Without Existence, there cannot be power. Your all powerful being is only powerful in his trousers pockets, not out in the real world. Existence is all we have and every being and everything in Existence has one power or the other, which sum total is the POWER OF EXISTENCE. Existence is a suprasystem, we are just fragments of it. Jehovah your god doesn't make up to 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% of Existence (God Almighty). :This statement doesn't address what you quoted, so I'll pass. ![]() :You mean how could Jehovah steal and get away with it? Well, there was no copyright in those days. And when I said he stole, it means he plagiarised, okay. :Okay let me enlighten you. When Jehovah(aka Mosheh) was born, the Egyptians were great and historical people. Jehovah was born into a little land. He needed to rule the land, therefore he sought after histories of other lands and from them he made his own stories to control the minds of his people. To make them fear, Jehovah have to write Egypt in a bad note and tell tales as if he conquered them. :Totality of Existence is not a human being, so don't use 'he'. :I didn't say 3000 years, I only said before year 3000. That's just less than a thousand years from now. You said people laugh at the bible from its inception. Yes, very few people did. Those were the intelligent ones. But now the number of people who laugh at your bible are a hundred times more than of those days. So by year 2625, 95% of the Christian countries will be laughing at the bible tales and it then will fade away like some other religious texts before it. ![]() :See who is talking. Up there you just finished talking about 'scriptures' how it has existed for longer than 3000 years ![]() :Now be honest with yourself, how many % of the book have you read to come up with this gloomy conclusion? I can bet my balls you didn't read up to 1℅ of the content of the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY but 'gbamishly' arrives your conclusion. :Superstitious beliefs of blood sacrifice, lol ![]() 1 Like |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by BlueAngel444: 1:06pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
OtemAtum:Something has nameless as trees and a stone on the ground, because it has no value, is who you subject yourself to. Something with no name, a nameless entity is what you reverence |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by BlueAngel444: 1:41pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
OtemAtum:a reference offered with limited vocabulary of expression is termed respect when it's done with words of value to the speaker. You claim to write the history of men but you lack much understanding of them. I have told you that God Almighty is the Totality of Existence. So whatever your own god is, it is just an insignificant fragment of what God Almighty is.My God is your God, but your god is not mine. Because I didn't make anyone my God nor make Him God, He has always been God whether we accept it or not. It doesn't change His position, nor does our feelings or opinion. We can't vote Him out of office. So it's insignificant to lay claim or deny Him, it only affects you How can you be talking about what causes Existence when it is not possible for what does not exist to cause Existence. Existence is neither created nor could be destroyed. God is the Totality of Existence and it was not caused by anything. It has always been there. Jehovah your god is a very very insignificant fragment of this existence.if to you a god is of such insignificant what does that make you a mortal. Why do you type God with a capital G, and why do you call Him God. Why didn't your special. creation give you a special name to call it. It seems more like copying traditions that already exist. You neither know nor understand existence. Do men exist? Do men not cease to exist? Your answer will define what to you death is. So you mean 'Power' doesn't exist or what? Power is just a subset of existence my brother. Without Existence, there cannot be power. Your all powerful being is only powerful in his trousers pockets, not out in the real world. Existence is all we have and every being and everything in Existence has one power or the other, which sum total is the POWER OF EXISTENCE. Existence is a suprasystem, we are just fragments of it. Jehovah your god doesn't make up to 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% of Existence (God Almighty).and there again you copy the term El-Shaddai to insult a rewritten term Jehovah. Like saying a car is less than a motor. Now you are confused between power and energy. You say the power of existence, but you fail to state 1. You say existence does not rule therefore to you it lacks power 2. Existence is the sum of power, yet it lacks rule This statement doesn't address what you quoted, so I'll pass.not surprised You mean how could Jehovah steal and get away with it? Well, there was no copyright in those days. And when I said he stole, it means he plagiarised, okay.so which is he, make up your mind smart or dumb. He is dumb as portrayed to you, because he hates evil? Or he is smart to you because he can't make history but steal it? Okay let me enlighten you. When Jehovah(aka Mosheh) was born, the Egyptians were great and historical people. Jehovah was born into a little land. He needed to rule the land, therefore he sought after histories of other lands and from them he made his own stories to control the minds of his people. To make them fear, Jehovah have to write Egypt in a bad note and tell tales as if he conquered them.He sought out histories in order to rule? Is that why he is dumb because doing that doesnt make any sense. What was the purpose of "needing" to rule the land. Why Eqypt? Were the Egyptians so meeciful they allowed such a weak being malign them for so long. But did the people constantly fear your said Jehovah? And how does conquering a nation make a people fear their leader? Totality of Existence is not a human being, so don't use 'he'.my apologies I forgot to refer to it as an inanimate object it is. It obviously doesn't speak, nor see and lack intelligence to relate with a nation. Wait if you malign gods because they claim to rule a tiny place and people by speaking to them. Why d heck should your "it" be bigger when you claim it "spoke" to only you. It speaks right? Or is it dumb I didn't say 3000 years, I only said before year 3000. That's just less than a thousand years from now.so your it uses the cesar calendar for his plans, that's rich. It couldn't be more creative oh wait, it's not a creator ![]() You said people laugh at the bible from its inception. Yes, very few people did. Those were the intelligent ones. But now the number of people who laugh at your bible are a hundred times more than of those days. So by year 2625, 95% of the Christian countries will be laughing at the bible tales and it then will fade away like some other religious texts before it.bible text fading is not the point, it was printed few hundred years ago. And for decades many manuscripts were buried. Nothing new. Yahweh speaks clearly to those who listen, not just to one but to many. So even though the stones are broken he will still make his commands clear again. See who is talking. Up there you just finished talking about 'scriptures' how it has existed for longer than 3000 yearstalking about scripture and referring you to them are two different things you should be wise enough to differentiate Now be honest with yourself, how many % of the book have you read to come up with this gloomy conclusion? I can bet my balls you didn't read up to 1℅ of the content of the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY but 'gbamishly' arrives your conclusion.I can bet my shit you don't understand scriptures but you came up with your. What's the big idea in stating the point of it. Let me guess the liberation of men ![]() Superstitious beliefs of blood sacrifice, lolLike I said you call superstitious what you don't understand and write a book of superstitions and want others to believe in it. Cause honestly you believe humans are dumb like that. |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by OtemAtum: 7:01am On Nov 17, 2020 |
BlueAngel444:You make no point here. :Your god is in a spiritual cage, how can he be God Almighty? Can a prisoner be Almighty God? :God Almighty in the Seriot Language is 'Mirosh', meaning 'Maker of the Multiverse'. It is the creator of Allah, Jehovah, etc. I use a capital letter 'G' because I am addressing a man(you) who is used to such terms. :So far you are in existence, you can never cease to exist. Your inexistence on a material world means your existence in another world. That's why it is there in the BOOK OF TRUTH that 'death on earth means life in the afterlives'. :You are just confusing yourselves with grammatical terms. You are beating about the bush. When we talk about ruling, it is like saying a particular species trying to show power over another, but in the case of God Almighty, it is Existence and rules, powers, everything is part of it, so why single out the term 'rule' for Existence that is EVERYTHING? It's deep. :You want to know why your god Jehovah is so dumb, just pick up the bible and read through, then you can come back and tell me how dumb your god is. I won't help you to do such assignment. :God Almighty is everything. Therefore both animate and inanimate objects are parts of God Almighty. :Atum, a god just like Jehovah your god but highly intelligent that Jehovah is the one who spoke to me and not God Almighty. :Yes, we can see how he speaks to many of our Nigerian pastors to rape our girls, give lying prophecies and testimonies and cheat the gullibles ![]() ![]() :Tell me the difference abeg ![]() :who scriptures EPP? ![]() ![]() :Religion has really done a lot of trauma to your brain o. At this Aquarius age, you still believe in sacrifice of blood. He he he he ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by BlueAngel444: 8:04am On Nov 17, 2020 |
OtemAtum:if I called you Asa, that doesnt mean you are but because it a way to refer to someone or something above and precious. Your god is in a spiritual cage, how can he be God Almighty? Can a prisoner be Almighty God?you are just repeating your nonsense like a self absorbed religious fanatic God Almighty in the Seriot Language is 'Mirosh', meaning 'Maker of the Multiverse'. It is the creator of Allah, Jehovah, etc. I use a capital letter 'G' because I am addressing a man(you) who is used to such terms.an excuse for your made up dubious copying of other traditions. Your pride has blinded you even to answer what a mere mortal like you is So far you are in existence, you can never cease to exist. Your inexistence on a material world means your existence in another world. That's why it is there in the BOOK OF TRUTH that 'death on earth means life in the afterlives'.so trees continue to exist even after they are cut down, and burnt into ash. So animal continue to exist and make sounds even after they lay lifeless on the ground. You copy the idea of afterlife but clearly don't understand what it means. Ofcourse life does not die and death doesn't not live but what does this mean. You are just confusing yourselves with grammatical terms. You are beating about the bush. When we talk about ruling, it is like saying a particular species trying to show power over another, but in the case of God Almighty, it is Existence and rules, powers, everything is part of it, so why single out the term 'rule' for Existence that is EVERYTHING? It's deep.I have explained that to you but you seem set to stay on your own way. You cannot limit a definition nor change it's meaning just to suit you. You said Existence doesn't not rule, it is the sum total, but if you were wise you have said it expresses it's rule through so and so, and as so and so. But you keep confusing yourself by the terms you use. It is not deep, it is darkness and void, it lacks meaning because it is formless and has no defined characters. It can't be here nor there and still be, then you say it is everything, yet you deny it's rulership but don't deny it's power. You are trying to imagine something bigger than you can imagine, so you paint it beyond all that you know and feel it's an insult to use characters species relate to. It's because your god is not creator but creation (totality of existence) You want to know why your god Jehovah is so dumb, just pick up the bible and read through, then you can come back and tell me how dumb your god is. I won't help you to do such assignment.I don't relate with God Almighty through a book, an angel remember ![]() God Almighty is everything. Therefore both animate and inanimate objects are parts of God Almighty.I had this ideology when I was too young to even browse a phone, I wrote a whole series as similar to the nonsense you have written. How do you think I knew their where holes in all you wrote and the many books you drew out your creativity from. Did it begin we a desire to discover God Atum, a god just like Jehovah your god but highly intelligent that Jehovah is the one who spoke to me and not God Almighty.so Jehovah spoke to you buy your god was dumb, and did not speak Yes, we can see how he speaks to many of our Nigerian pastors to rape our girls, give lying prophecies and testimonies and cheat the gulliblesfor one who claim to have written the history of man you are has deluded in your evaluation of them. Should history if the truth not teach you who men are and who you are. No not your imaginary version of them but he reality of what is within them and about them. Men like you, use the name of God Almighty to lie, to cheat, to deceive, to gain what they felt otherwise wouldn't have. Tell me the difference abegI never referred you to read it who scriptures EPP?lol have you been done in by the fact. You thought scriptures was written for you because of you but realize it doesn't exist to grant your every whomping desire and need. You obviously hate God and His Name, His Identity, His Word, His proclaimed power. You hate the pain you suffered and still suffer. You ideology of atum is nothing but a failed escape for you from the reality you were born in. A dying human race. Religion has really done a lot of trauma to your brain o. At this Aquarius age, you still believe in sacrifice of blood. He he he hebecause I don't believe in something nor accept it doesn't me it doesn't exist. The problem with the lots of you like I mentioned earlier is that a little knowledge puffs you lots up into thinking you have profound knowledge about nothing. |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by JoshOxborn: 12:21pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
Too much grammars. This thread is tasteless ![]() |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by dazzlingd(m): 9:54pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
OtemAtum: May the light of mirofa continue to shine on your head. You are indeed a great god. You are not ordinary to have written the doctrine of the ufos....the people hating and debating u cannot fathom it, they cannot even decipher how u did it... The best book ever, written by one person...they are pained 1 Like |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by dazzlingd(m): 9:57pm On Nov 17, 2020 |
Otem, u mentioned that Albert einstein, Gallile Galileo were among those that captured nymphidis...pls shed more light on that |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by OtemAtum: 4:03pm On Nov 20, 2020 |
dazzlingd:I'm actually talking about our present era, because at this present era, yes the two names you mentioned above were among the scientists who captured Jehovah. In the past world, I didn't confirm if they were there or not. Have it in mind that in the past world, Jehovah was captured and now he has been recaptured. |
Re: An Angel Vs A god by dazzlingd(m): 8:21pm On Nov 20, 2020 |
OtemAtum: I know you were referring to this era ...u also mentioned that atum wanted to come to earth as human...wat was his human nature when he came...is albert einstein his reincarnate? |
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