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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:11pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
swiz123: Well you are an idealist while I prefer reality. That should explain why Fabregas has been a bench fodder since the age of 29 and why Monaco are trying to chase him away till today 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 12:16pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Ibime: Kante is a CM, (at least for major part of his career)not a DM. The qualities he lacks is paramount to a CM. But apparently , his work rate assuages his weakness -- A benefit you have failed to give Fab. Fabregas though versatile is not a DM. stop twisting facts to favor your opinion. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 12:16pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Ibime:Jesu did u say 12yr old. Lmao. U wicked goan You can ask around. I was the biggest persecutor of Ramires on this thread. I don't accomodate weakness in any player whether technical or physical and Ramires was a technical liability, always giving the ball away by trying to run with it through the centre of midfield, with an atrocious first touch and lacking the simple midfield basics of trapping the ball, turning and passing to a teammate.you have murdered someone So in this team now would you go add, who you go commot
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:19pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: This is our first team without question. Only Azpilicueta has an argument to break into this team but James has improved his stamina to where Azpis case for inclusion is getting weak 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 12:22pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Ibime:But what weakness did KDB have that Mou let him go |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:25pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
swiz123: CM or DM, they both have primary defensive responsibility. We are no longer in the days of Okocha and Oliseh where one has all defensive accountability and the other has zero defensive accountability. Stopping opponents from penetrating is the primary responsibility of a CM or DM. You can do that by defending well or by hogging the ball so thoroughly that opposition do not touch the ball to harm you with it, or both. Fabregas can do neither consistently. 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 12:26pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
swiz123:Kante has lack of control Precision passing Dribbling Abeg where you see all these weaknesses 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:29pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: Go and ask Mou. I supported KDB. If you ask me, Mourinho was playing politics with Oscar Vs Mata and KDB was not a big enough name to factor in that political argument. Mourinho said he wants to get rid of Mata and I quote "in order to make space for Brazil's no10". I just think KDB was a victim of the 6 months it took Mourinho to politically shift Mata out of the club. In the process of doing that, KDBs career was being wasted and he did not have the patience to wait for such politics to play out. You cannot shift your POTY and much loved Chelsea player with a largely unknown small boy from Belgium. That would have been unacceptable to the fans and media, so he had to do it with Oscar, who I also did not like. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 12:30pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Unlimited22:is it not strange that pep threw yaya away for busquets |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 12:31pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
BlueAngel444:Is Yaya a true DM? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 12:32pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Ibime:KDB was an 8 na like Lampard Anyway Oscar wasn't popular I didn't know him before he signed for Chelsea. Oscar did very well his first season though and deserved to stat. If Mou was so political why did he bench Kaka for Ozil |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:37pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: We were playing 4-2-3-1 then and KDB plays there. Oscar had the profile of being no10 for Brazil and was fairly popular in his 2012-13 season. That is an easy sell for Mata's replacement than a small Belgian boy. Kaka had already suffered one year of injury and flopping before being shifted for Ozil who was Germany's no10 and a World Cup star. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 12:38pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
BlueAngel444:Lol Mou benched Prime Pepe for a 19-year-old kid from Lens. Mou benched Casillas for Diego Lopez. Mou left Chelsea because him and Abramovic disagreed over shevchenko And the team's poor form. That man no well o. Believe me. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 12:39pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Ibime: I guess his over 50 assists for Chelsea makes him a liability. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 12:39pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
swiz123:lol let's just hope Gilmour comes back better than before he left 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:42pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
swiz123: That's why he's been on bench since 2016 and chased to Monaco. Don't argue with me, argue with four different managers at Chelsea and Barca that chased and benched him. Mata had better assist stats (at one point approaching 25 assists in a season) and was chased, and you are not crying about it. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 12:44pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Unlimited22:the man called Mou but Tottenham are playing pretty ok now |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 12:51pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Seems Ibime hate lots of Chelsea players sha... From Ramirez to Oscar, Mata, Hazard, Fabregas Na who you come like na?? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TeflonBlixx: 1:05pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Elnino4ladies: Lampard 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:05pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Elnino4ladies: I grew up in an era where we make UCL semi and compete for title every year even though we may not win, but always competitive. 2012 to 2020 set did not have what it takes and turned us to nonentities in UCL and barely competed for title due to the weaknesses in these players above except Hazard. I don't hate Hazard, just got fed up of Chelsea fans hyping him past his station. When looking at Chelsea, I always look at players to replace to make the team better and Hazard had never once crossed my mind as a weakness that needs addressing, infact someone to keep and add better players to him to take us back to where we used to be. 11 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 1:14pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Ibime: I got your point now. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 1:16pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Numbers don't tell the whole story. Assists is not down to the passer of the ball entirely. The striker recieving the pass have a lot of say whether that pass will be counted an assist or not. Play 20 passes to C. Ronaldo and play the same 20 passes to Adebayo in the same exact way by the same person.... Will the number of assists be same in both scenarios? Your guess is as good as mine. Ozil had C. Ronaldo in front. Silva had Aguero in front. Cesc had Adebayo in front. Numbers don't tell the whole story. Enuff said. 16 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 2emotional(m): 1:29pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Ibime: Boss ibims, fab no bad reach like that nah.....you have never praised him for anything. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:45pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
timbros:Especially all these assists that after someone has played in a perfectly weighted cross field pass, all the player has to do is do a lay off. Like no recognition goes to the GK, the DM, back line that supplied the bluid up. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:46pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
timbros:Ozil had 19 assists with Giroud and co Ozil had 16 and 15 league assists respectively with Bremen as well. This agenda that he only racked those assists because of Ronaldo and other world class attackers is dead on arrival. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:13pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Ibime:Your theory does not add up, at least not for someone like Mourinho. We have not known Mourinho to care for such sentiments. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:29pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Greatihex: He does it all the time - using one player to push out another he doesn't like. It is actually consistent with his behaviour over the years, and he looks at the politics first. He always had an intention to push out Mata before taking the job and the press kicked against him including a big argument with Jamie Redknapp on TV. Don't forget how loved Mata was. His response was that he is prioritising Brazil's no10 which is an easier sell. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:55pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Ibime:Sir, it has never been about politics for Mourinho. If you don't give him what he wants, you go straight to bench. Mourinho cared less about the media when he was benching his own useless buy of Pogba with mctominay. And for the records, it was not mata or Oscar that kdb was competing with, it was Willian and Schurlle. Kdb used to play as RAM mostly in those days. Kdb was simply passing through Mourinho's normal tough love of the players he values, but kdb simply did not have the patience for that. Kdb was not giving Mourinho what he wanted, and Mourinho wanted to make him learn that and play the way he wants him to, but kdb was not having it. It is that simple. Kdb was also not the finished article. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Neobulletzz(m): 3:17pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Greatihex:KDB competing with Willian and Schurle ke? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 3:24pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
BlueAngel444:Muller over kaka? Neymar over Ronaldinho? Wonder shall never end 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 3:30pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Melvyn11: Read my first and last line again, more slowly this time. Maybe then you will get my point. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 3:41pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
timbros: Baba rubbish! Cesc had prime D. Costa in front of him, Ozil had Welbeck, Giroud and other useless strikers and remained on top of the assist charts! Numbers don’t lie! The stat below is the prime of Fabregas in terms of numbers, not even Ozil’s but keep an eye on the “Big Chance created” category where Ozil dwarfs him. 3 Likes 1 Share
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