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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by kendrick9(m): 6:24pm On Nov 16, 2020
Expert17:




Maradona greatest footballer of all time grin grin grin grin

That Cheat/junkie, no wonder he cannot stay 6 months without needing serious medical attention.

Would you like to see Maradona and Messi statistics??
Keep your useless statistics....
Messi nor ronaldo wouldn't survive half of what Armando passed through...
Armando had everything Messi has and a little extra plus a never say die mentality...
A leader of men
Football is too soft now....
Put Maradona as a striker with Xavi , iniesta etc behind him in this soft era and I'm sure he will score 60 every season

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SyIvalord: 6:27pm On Nov 16, 2020
#GGMU

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SyIvalord: 6:28pm On Nov 16, 2020
engrelvis:
U simply misunderstood what i wrote .Am nt advocating for any panic buying. At d moment with d exception of Bruno (n dats slightly) he is better dan most of our midfielders.Y nt sell pogba n mata n bring dis guy in.
Bring Grealish in to do what? VDB can't even get minutes and you want us to buy another attacking midfielder? Should we go about buying players even though we don't need them just because they are on form? Pogba should be sold and replaced with a world class CDM.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:30pm On Nov 16, 2020
Abeg let us kill this Messi won't score 30 goals rubbish. Someone who at his peak was scoring 43, 46, 50 goals in Liga somehow won't score the 30 goals that them Kane, Salah and co dey score.

The problem is people here like to buttress their points with ridiculous exaggerations. You can defend your point that Messi is not the G.O.A.T without entering the realm of comedy.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by randomperson: 6:34pm On Nov 16, 2020
kendrick9:
Keep your useless statistics....
Messi not ronaldo wouldn't survive half of what Armando passed through...
Armando had everything Messi has and a little extra plus a never say die mentality...
A leader of men
Football is too soft now....
Put Maradona as a striker with Xavi , iniesta etc behind him in this soft era and I'm sure he will score 60 every season

Lol... see this one. Maradona as a striker?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 6:35pm On Nov 16, 2020
thorrvik55:


Lol.. grin grin
One can't say for sure sha cos he never played in EPL. In a team like Pep's City it's possible sha but Mou's Chelsea then he probably won't
cheesy cheesy

Well....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by kendrick9(m): 6:37pm On Nov 16, 2020
afrodoc2:
Abeg let us kill this Messi won't score 30 goals rubbish. Someone who at his peak was scoring 43, 46, 50 goals in Liga somehow won't score the 30 goals that them Kane, Salah and co dey score.

The problem is people here like to buttress their points with ridiculous exaggerations. You can defend your point that Messi is not the G.O.A.T without entering the realm of comedy.
Messi would absolutely score 30+ plus in the Epl if he's at a team like City or present day Pool...
At the end of the day Messi and Ronaldo have been really blessed to have played in stacked teams for most of their Careers..
La Liga was basically a two team league with barca and madrid having the two best squads during Messi and Ronaldo's peak years...
Why won't they amass those stats playing when you have xavi, iniesta, Kroos, Alonso etc behind then
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 6:38pm On Nov 16, 2020
randomperson:


This is a terrible attempt at a rebuttal.

So if he can score that number of goals in champions league games where the stakes are seemingly higher, why wouldn't he score even more in premier league games.

And apart from goals sef, his passing and dribbling nko? Guy, you have no point.

You have no point and can't prove he will score above 30 season in season out.

You think it's about the player alone?

Let him go and win world cup and Copa America na.

Playing with an EPL team is different from play against EPL teams from a different league and different conditions.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by kendrick9(m): 6:38pm On Nov 16, 2020
randomperson:


Lol... see this one. Maradona as a striker?
Then why bringing your useless stats when you knew Diego wasn't a striker but a no 10?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:40pm On Nov 16, 2020
kendrick9:
Then why bringing your useless stats when you knew Diego wasn't a striker but a no 10?

Messi played as top 9 for Barcelona and Argentina baa
cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 6:47pm On Nov 16, 2020
Jodera:
I think this is Kane's 6th season in EPL yet he scored 20+ goals 4 times. Not a bad record at all.

Aguero mostly was an injury prone player, so it's understandable.

And to the answer to your question(the bolded), it is because He is messi. Messi is surely a goal machine, and if Kane can score 29+ goals twice, then messi will surely pass the 30 goal mark cos he rarely goes injured

He is Messi yet you are seeing stats that showed his failure to score when it mattered most in international tournaments.

Because I'm a pastor I know all the scripture word for word.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:47pm On Nov 16, 2020
Hat-tricks
Leo Messi has scored 2 hat-tricks against english teams, in 34 games.

Cristiano Ronaldo has scored 1 hat-trick against english teams, in 247 games.

Braces
Leo Messi has scored 6 braces against english teams, in 34 games.

Cristiano Ronaldo has scored 23 braces against english teams, in 247 games.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 6:48pm On Nov 16, 2020
timay:


Well defending was the string point of those small EPL teams during the Messi peak era. So it won't be easy though.
Not like now that every tom, dick and Harry wants to play out from the back leading to errors up and down grin
Messi peak years coincides with the decline of strong EPL defenders. Chelsea-led defence of terry was in decline (terry, Ivanovic et al), man u led defence was in decline too(vidic, Ferdinand et al). I can't even call my team arsenal sef, neither will I call Liverpool. Man city of kompany was somehow inconsistent with only kompany the stand out in that back line. Look across the rest of the league and find out averagely if the EPL teams don't concede goals against the big teams esp against man city,(you'll find out they do).
Remember, messi peak year was from 2010,... A peak messi with a falling league in defence is sure to guarantee 30+ goals for messi.

Aguero would have done it if he wasn't injured most part, and Kane is doing it cos he rarely gets injured.

E sure for me say messi would scored that in a free-scoring team of man city post 2010

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 6:49pm On Nov 16, 2020
Mrviktor:





Pogba: "It was a period I hadn't experienced in my career. I was used to playing and having rhythm. Now, I'm getting my sensations back, little by little, I am finding myself back. I have to put in performances like that [like against Portugal], be consistent." #mulive [rtf]




Make Una no dey quote only bad part..


Bruno wey talk way fred no sabi pass ball nko.. Una no airquote that part.. And na Bruno sabi play nonsense pass ...


Let Paul rest.

He was brilliant absolutely brilliant against Portugal.. Azin I saw Pogba chasing Ronaldo.. And winning d ball.. Pogba not sluggish on d ball.. Paul Pogba oh. He didn't play chairman football...

So abeg he has a very solid point.. Things need to change at old Trafford..

Am sure it Giroud gave the same interview he will say the same exact words Pogba said.

If rudiger was in his shoes he will say the same thing.
Even Dan James.. D boy dey ball for Wales.


Leave Pogba alone
Sometimes you just look these things and let it pass.

If you talk they say you are a Pogba fan.

Media put it out there recently that Rashford bought two luxury houses yet he claims to feed the poor. If you don't put things into context you follow their narrative.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 6:53pm On Nov 16, 2020
Expert17:



Kane scored 21,25,29,30 but Messi can't score 30+ goals in EPL cheesy grin cheesy abeg stop


Because Kane scored 20+ 4 times, Messi will score 30+ 4 times. Nice logic. I'll add it to my data analysis algorithm.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 6:55pm On Nov 16, 2020
nitrogen:


Let’s be fair, Messi is very good, but we cannot conclude that he will score 30+ goals consistently in the EPL or any other league because he has not left Barcelona.

No one knows because he has no history in another league!

These guys forget the that changing teams is also a factor. There is a reason we rate xavi and iniesta so high. And that's just one factor.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 6:55pm On Nov 16, 2020
odizeey:


You have no point and can't prove he will score above 30 season in season out.

You think it's about the player alone?

Let him go and win world cup and Copa America na.

Playing with an EPL team is different from play against EPL teams from a different league and different conditions.


Lol... This is the issue.

Kane haven't won any trophy but he's scored 20+ goals in 4 season in at least 6seasons he's been at Tottenham.

The issue is not the trophy, but will messi score 30goals in EPL?
In a free scoring EPL team, then yes.

And winning trophy is more than a player power

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:59pm On Nov 16, 2020
Jodera:
Messi peak years coincides with the decline of strong EPL defenders. Chelsea-led defence of terry was in decline (terry, Ivanovic et al), man u led defence was in decline too(vidic, Ferdinand et al). I can't even call my team arsenal sef, neither will I call Liverpool. Man city of kompany was somehow inconsistent with only kompany the stand out in that back line. Look across the rest of the league and find out averagely if the EPL teams don't concede goals against the big teams esp against man city,(you'll find out they do).
Remember, messi peak year was from 2010,... A peak messi with a falling league in defence is sure to guarantee 30+ goals for messi.

Aguero would have done it if he wasn't injured most part, and Kane is doing it cos he rarely gets injured.

E sure for me say messi would scored that in a free-scoring team of man city post 2010

The same Messi that scored 91 goals in 2012.

CR7 tried his best the following year, all he could achieve was to add his goals and assists to get 84. grin grin

Messi wicked I swear

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 7:03pm On Nov 16, 2020
Expert17:


The same Messi that scored 91 goals in 2012.

CR7 tried his best the following year, all he could achieve was to add his goals and assists to get 84. grin grin

Messi wicked I swear
grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bunsenbun(m): 7:03pm On Nov 16, 2020
TrebleChamp:
Diego Maradona is the great Argentina player of all time, and arguably the greatest footballer of all time.
diego the dope merchant?.i don't even consider him a great cause of the coke scandal.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bunsenbun(m): 7:05pm On Nov 16, 2020
Expert17:


Maybe we should show them Messi goals and assists against EPL big boys......and then compare it with CR7 that played in EPL for 6 seasons.


that Would Be Going Too Far.Ronaldo stats against chelsea is more than enough

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 7:05pm On Nov 16, 2020
odizeey:


He is Messi yet you are seeing stats that showed his failure to score when it mattered most in international tournaments.

Because I'm a pastor I know all the scripture word for word.
he might stat pad, fine.
After all, Kane 29 goals na stat padding cos he didn't win any trophy with it.

Scoring goals whether it matters most or not is another equation entirely.

The koko be say... Will messi score 30+ goals in EPL at his peak?

The answer is 99% yes.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:08pm On Nov 16, 2020
Expert17:
Hat-tricks
Leo Messi has scored 2 hat-tricks against english teams, in 34 games.

Cristiano Ronaldo has scored 1 hat-trick against english teams, in 247 games.

Braces
Leo Messi has scored 6 braces against english teams, in 34 games.

Cristiano Ronaldo has scored 23 braces against english teams, in 247 games.

When did the argument turn into Messi vs Ronaldo?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 7:08pm On Nov 16, 2020
hensben:
You guys are forgetting Messi won Olympics with Argentina.
Olympics is not a major recognised Intl trophy na
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:10pm On Nov 16, 2020
Jodera:
Lol... This is the issue.

Kane haven't won any trophy but he's scored 20+ goals in 4 season in at least 6seasons he's been at Tottenham.

The issue is not the trophy, but will messi score 30goals in EPL?
In a free scoring EPL team, then yes.

And winning trophy is more than a player power
Which one is that free scoring EPL team? My point is not about the trophy. But replicating those goals that brought the trophies in an international stage.

You feel it's about the player. And I'm not even talking about who is goat or chicken.

There are factors that bring disadvantages to EPL players and coaches like Guardiola and Mourinho have talked about them.

Well. I rest my case.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 7:11pm On Nov 16, 2020
Bunsenbun:
diego the dope merchant?.i don't even consider him a great cause of the coke scandal.

Fvcking Coke legend grin grin grin


Imagine Messi taking coke join the talent wey dey him body...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 7:11pm On Nov 16, 2020
odizeey:


You have no point and can't prove he will score above 30 season in season out.

You think it's about the player alone?

Let him go and win world cup and Copa America na.

Playing with an EPL team is different from play against EPL teams from a different league and different conditions.


love this point

We are talking about the same Messi that complains about the recruitment of top class players because they can't plate Messi-ball

A player that walked out on Argentina because he feels he is bigger than them.

May I hear say Messi no frustrate for EPL

When he plays like FA, EFL, UCL, EPL even if he doesn't get tired, when half of his team mates are tired, Messi will frustrate.

Where will he find tiki taka, does Pep play that anymore.

In la liga you will still find teams that want to play ball. In EPL na EPL money does club dey think about. Highest Messi would have would be 3 good season and one off one or two self, be it injuries of prolonged fatigued.

Messi is being coach by an ex EPL manager he is barely hitting the target let's not mention scoring. The moment Barca plays like an EPL team small, you see Messi goes misses.

Messi will do well but not that well.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 7:12pm On Nov 16, 2020
Leyqute:


When did the argument turn into Messi vs Ronaldo?

To show you how Messi struggle against EPL teams

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:12pm On Nov 16, 2020
Jodera:
he might stat pad, fine.
After all, Kane 29 goals na stat padding cos he didn't win any trophy with it.

Scoring goals whether it matters most or not is another equation entirely.

The koko be say... Will messi score 30+ goals in EPL at his peak?

The answer is 99% yes.

I gave him two 30+

You know this thing but you no won gree cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 7:14pm On Nov 16, 2020
odizeey:

Sometimes you just look these things and let it pass.

If you talk they say you are a Pogba fan.

Media put it out there recently that Rashford bought two luxury houses yet he claims to feed the poor. If you don't put things into context you follow their narrative.

So because he feeds the poor he should live in face me i face you? Or you want him to use all his money to feed the poor so he can join the poor?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:14pm On Nov 16, 2020
Jodera:
he might stat pad, fine.
After all, Kane 29 goals na stat padding cos he didn't win any trophy with it.

Scoring goals whether it matters most or not is another equation entirely.

The koko be say... Will messi score 30+ goals in EPL at his peak?

The answer is 99% yes.

Agreed. Definitely. Kane, Salah did it, why won’t Messi?

But I think the more important, relevant question is: “will Messi score 30+ EPL goals every season”?

Of all players who have scored 30 goals in an EPL season, they suddenly seem to hit a dry spell the next season. Kane has been the only outstanding EPL scorer of recent TBH, and he doesn’t score 30 each season. Auba, Salah are just trying.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:15pm On Nov 16, 2020
BlueAngel444:
love this point

We are talking about the same Messi that complains about the recruitment of top class players because they can't plate Messi-ball

A player that walked out on Argentina because he feels he is bigger than them.

May I hear say Messi no frustrate for EPL

When he plays like FA, EFL, UCL, EPL even if he doesn't get tired, when half of his team mates are tired, Messi will frustrate.

Where will he find tiki taka, does Pep play that anymore.

In la liga you will still find teams that want to play ball. In EPL na EPL money does club dey think about. Highest Messi would have would be 3 good season and one off one or two self, be it injuries of prolonged fatigued.

Messi is being coach by an ex EPL manager he is barely hitting the target let's not mention scoring. The moment Barca plays like an EPL team small, you see Messi goes misses.

Messi will do well but not that well.

These are the things. We think EPL talents are not worthy of Ballon d'Or?

The conditions are not very favourable and coaches have complained about it. And that's just one.

What about the tiki taka system?

Woo. I rest my case.

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