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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by Gerrard59(m): 7:08am On May 30, 2020
Thanks to everyone who contributed. At this point, I've to mind my business and run an individual journey. No be me cause the problem, dem born me to meet am.

Cc: Ednut1, you and Lord Lugard's quote eh. E dey like bookmark for you.

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by AreaFada2: 7:33am On May 30, 2020
ednut1:

By Lord Lugard:



""In character and temperament" wrote Lord Lugard, "the
typical African of this race-type is a happy,
thriftless, excitable person. Lacking in self control,
discipline, and foresight. Naturally courageous, and
naturally courteous and polite, full of personal vanity, with
little sense of veracity, fond of music and loving
weapons as an oriental loves jewelry. His thoughts are
concentrated on the events and feelings of the moment,
and he suffers little from the apprehension for the
future, or grief for the past.



His mind is far nearer to
the animal world than the that of the European or
Asiatic, and exhibits something of the animals placidity
and want of desire to rise beyond the State he has
reached. Through the ages the African appears to have
evolved no organized religious creed, and though some
tribes appear to believe in a deity, the religious sense
seldom rises above pantheistic animalism and seems more
often to take the form of a vague dread of the
supernatural".

He lacks the power of organization, and is
conspicuously deficient in the management and control alike of
men or business. He loves the display of power, but
fails to realize its responsibility ....he will work
hard with a less incentive than most races. He has the
courage of the fighting animal -an instinct rather than
a moral virtue......In brief, the virtues and defects
of this race-type are those of attractive children,
whose confidence when it is won is given ungrudgingly as
to an older and wiser superior and without
envy.......Perhaps the two traits which have impressed me as
those most characteristic of the African native are his
lack of apprehension and his ability to visualize the
future"

Pg 70 of The Dual Mandate by F. D. Lugard 1926


The characteristics noted by lugard are still happening today. The black race everywhere have no unity or ability to think about the future. After all the neo colonialism(imf loans, cia interference and western manipulations) , african nations have still gone to enter China loan trap. Just take a look at Liberia where some African Americans slaves were resettled. They began to discriminate against the indigenes and we all saw the wars that became of it. Even in the USA once black Americans hear your have an African name they begin to discriminate against africans. All over the world black nations in african and those of majority slave descendants (Jamaica, haiti and others) are suffering from same thing. As far as am concerned the black race does not have the capacity or drive to be rich or make an impact
While some of his assertions maybe correct, many were coloured by his own prejudices.

Many African societies were pretty well organised. Without any contact with Europeans or Asians.

The Romans wrote worse about other Europeans that they dismissed as Barbarians.

Nubians were black and went to conquer Egypt and ruled as black Pharaohs. Something Europeans of 1926 when Lugard wrote would have archeologically dismissed.

About same time Lugard was writing, Hitler dismissed Jews as an inferior race. An ancient people with a superior history of civilization than the Germans. Today Jews are the richest and most influential people per head in the world.

Over 100 years before Lugard wrote, Toussaint L'Ouverture led Haitians to defeat the French.

Haitians worked hard to win and their incentive was freedom. Which was and is priceless.

Remember that until about 40 years ago, maybe only 25% of Africans were educated in Western terms. It affected how we processed our history.

India alone has more deities than Africa. They were mostly polytheistic too. Not just pantheistic.

It's not so much how others define you that matter. It's what we do with ourselves.
Currently we practice a political system alien to us. We have other people's religions.
These are forms of colonialism that most Africans have not even realised.

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by ednut1(m): 7:49am On May 30, 2020
AreaFada2:

While some of his assertions maybe correct, many were coloured by his own prejudices.

Many African societies were pretty well organised. Without any contact with Europeans or Asians.

The Romans wrote worse about others Europeans that the dismissed as Barbarians.

Nubians were black and went to conquer Egypt and ruled as black Pharaohs. Something Europeans of 1926 when Lugard wrote would have archeologically dismissed.

About same time Lugard was writing, Hitler dismissed Jews as an inferior race. An ancient people with a suffer superior history of civilization than the Germans. Today Jews are the richest and most influential people per head in the world.

Over 100 years before Lugard wrote, Toussaint L'Ouverture led Haitians to defeat the French. Haitians worked hard to win and their incentive was freedom. Which was and is priceless.

Remember that until about 40 years ago, maybe only 25% of Africans were educated in Western terms. It affected how we processed our history.

India alone has more deities than Africa. They were mostly polytheistic too. Not just pantheistic.

It's not so much how others define you that matter. It's what we do with ourselves.
Currently we practice a political system alien to us. We have other people's religions.
These are forms of colonialism that most Africans have not even realised.

true. Its left for black to rise up then

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by madridsta007(m): 8:04am On May 30, 2020
abbey621:


You were on the right path till you mentioned Nigeria...lol. Nigeria was and can never be a unifier. Look at us, 250 different ethnic groups, zero PATRIOTS! Abeg let's try Jamaica or another country with a unified voice.

That’s my point. As organised and democratic and as economically thriving as Botswana, the Negro community of the United States or Brazil, cannot point to Botswana as evidence of a Black nation being able to govern itself and thrive. They are just too small. Ghana’s making strides, but it’s not made the African American community in the US more respected.
Nigeria would have, if it was a serious country. Nigeria isn’t. The white man fears strength. Hence, for their racism, the Indian or the Chinese in the US would always be respected. A strong Nigeria would have released a statement that would cause the racist white man in the US to reflect.

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by Gerrard59(m): 10:06am On May 30, 2020
madridsta007:


That’s my point. As organised and democratic and as economically thriving as Botswana, the Negro community of the United States or Brazil, cannot point to Botswana as evidence of a Black nation being able to govern itself and thrive. They are just too small. Ghana’s making strides, but it’s not made the African American community in the US more respected.
Nigeria would have, if it was a serious country. Nigeria isn’t. The white man fears strength. Hence, for their racism, the Indian or the Chinese in the US would always be respected. A strong Nigeria would have released a statement that would cause the racist white man in the US to reflect

So I have been correct all this while? Colour me surprise. cheesy Moreover, it's a game of numbers. The entire Sub-Saharan Africa needs to be economically powerful to make a profound impact.

That said, why do black people despise capitalism? Is there any economic system that has pulled more people out of poverty than capitalism?

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by madridsta007(m): 10:48am On May 30, 2020
Gerrard59:


So I have been correct all this while? Colour me surprise. cheesy Moreover, it's a game of numbers. The entire Sub-Saharan Africa needs to be economically powerful to make a profound impact.

That said, why do black people despise capitalism? Is there any economic system that has pulled more people out of poverty than capitalism?

By "black people", who do you mean in effect? Not the Igbo or Yoruba man, most certainly, as those ones are sworn capitalists. Or the black professional in NYC. So who are these black people?

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by Gerrard59(m): 12:11pm On May 30, 2020
madridsta007:


By "black people", who do you mean in effect? Not the Igbo or Yoruba man, most certainly, as those ones are sworn capitalists. Or the black professional in NYC. So who are these black people?

Well, judging from posts and tweets I read these days, most seem to be against capitalism. Always lampooning the system and participate in "eat the rich" sermons.
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by madridsta007(m): 12:31pm On May 30, 2020
Gerrard59:


Well, judging from posts and tweets I read these days, most seem to be against capitalism. Always lampooning the system and participate in "eat the rich" sermons.

People who celebrate socialism or its similtudes are simply lazy folks.
Capitalism, for all its defects, is the singular system upon which the hugely economically successful 21st century is predicated upon.
From Nairobi to Johannesburg to Lagos to Aba, the argument leans towards jobs and infrastructure that supports these jobs and not handouts.
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by abbey621(m): 2:41pm On May 30, 2020
madridsta007:


That’s my point. As organised and democratic and as economically thriving as Botswana, the Negro community of the United States or Brazil, cannot point to Botswana as evidence of a Black nation being able to govern itself and thrive. They are just too small. Ghana’s making strides, but it’s not made the African American community in the US more respected.
Nigeria would have, if it was a serious country. Nigeria isn’t. The white man fears strength. Hence, for their racism, the Indian or the Chinese in the US would always be respected. A strong Nigeria would have released a statement that would cause the racist white man in the US to reflect.

The Indians are more disrespected than you know, they only use them when they are useful but to the US community at large, Indians are seen as gas station owners. The Chinese the same way, they are seen as really smart dudes but socially they are mocked. Nigerians in the USA are also hailed in certain sectors especially sport medicine and cultural schemes. Racism in America is beyond just whites, it's beyond just one nation, it is a mixture of conscious and unconscious bias. In fact, here in 9ja we are guilty of racism as well because tribalism is the offspring of racism. In the USA, you ask a black man are you african, he'll say no, I don't come from Africa, I'm African American, I'm Carribean, I'm Jamaican, they'll say anything to separate themselves from their true origin. This is what gives racism so much power, lack of identity and unity, a country like Nigeria cannot and will not bring unity when it is divided in itself. Can you expalin what unites us? What does a Yoruba man have in common with a Fulani woman? What does an Edo woman have in common with someone from Bauchi? We are only Nigerians by name, what divides us is much much more than what actually unites us, it was a mistake from the start and honestly I see no path forward except mutual disintegration or forceful revolution. NIGERIA IN IT'S CURRENT FORM IS NOT THE HOPE OF THE BLACK RACE!

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by abbey621(m): 2:44pm On May 30, 2020
ednut1:
many of those ethnic groups came from no more than 5 tribes. Thr black man is averse to unity. Even inside tribes some still moved to form new towns. Chai

You're right, which shows us there's this basic instinct among all Nigerians to be separated rather than to unite. We look for every possible method/way to be different/better than our neighbors. Even the struggling ones with their small generators forming I better pass my neighbor grin grin grin

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by DonroxyII: 10:06pm On May 30, 2020
The blacks need to be Knowledgeable and Self sufficient not just monetary rich .....

You can never be happy in another man's system ... You gatz create your own system that is more better, advanced and richer than that of your tormentor.....

Thug and BlingsBlings life solve nothing !

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by Gerrard59(m): 8:38am On May 31, 2020
xxxXXXxxx:
We Africans need to progressively develop our collective mindset to improve Our reality.

They don't necessarily need to love blacks. However,they must respect,once the Black race becomes successful. it means respect must be earned not gifted.

It's only mutual respect that can make all races to be genuinely friendly with each other.

Pls, Op. what's it with ur signature: Learn Mathematics!!!?

Just seeing this, I changed it when I was in the university and about to graduate. So I started practicing aptitude tests in preparation for post-university life and mehn, I was shocked by the amount of math these tests had considering my discipline was largely non-math based. I practiced SHL, GMAT, McKinsey's PST, Saville, Workforce tests etc. Initially, I found them so hard considering the long years I touched a math material and current degree background. Additionally, during my mini investigation of fresh graduates in the job market where I worked after university, I discovered that the obstacle was not poor grades (I met persons with excellent grades who could not go to the next stage due to failing aptitude tests), course of study (largely unconsidered these days due to varied nature of entry-level jobs) or university (although it affects some but mostly unimportant provided other criteria are fulfilled), so I believed it was very important that current university students need to learn mathematics, at least the very basics. I did it as I had to go back to study mathematics from junior secondary school to senior secondary to grasp a fair understanding of the subject.




That said: I recall last year's quarrel South Korea had with Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%932020_Japan%E2%80%93South_Korea_trade_dispute It deteriorated so badly which made China & the US to wade in settling the issue. Tourists from Korea to Japan reduced, they boycotted Japanese companies' products (Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Muji Holdings, Fast Retailing, Korean Air cancelled travels for routes in both countries etc.) and their bottomline got affected, economic growth of both countries receded, stock markets plummeted etc. Business leaders from the United States wrote to both countries pleading with them to reconcile because of their importance in global chip/electronics/chemicals' production value chain. You think it is because those US' executives love Koreans and Japanese that made them write letters? Or you think Koreans and Japanese love themselves? They don't but the least they do is respect as both countries (esp Japan) know the consequences for any form of disrespect. This boycott never happened at this level when Korea was poor while Japan almost eclipsed the US to be the world's largest economy 30 years ago. But it started getting serious when Korea(ns) became rich and had the eleventh largest economy in the world.

I wager that if the vast majority of Sub-Saharan countries are as rich as South Korean and Malaysia combined, we can demand for reparations from every country that enslaved black people in whatever form and we would get paid. With wealth comes power and with power, you can talk when others are talking. Japan spoke 1, South Korea retorted loudly with 2 and everyone got affected. The black race should be rich to reduce racial discrimination and that can only happen when the dominant environment (SSA) is rich.

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by annex1: 9:59am On May 31, 2020
Gerrard59:

I recall last year's quarrel South Korea had with Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%932020_Japan%E2%80%93South_Korea_trade_dispute It deteriorated so badly which made China & the US to wade in settling the issue. Tourists from Korea to Japan reduced, they boycotted Japanese companies' products (Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Muji Holdings, Fast Retailing, Korean Air cancelled travels for routes in both countries etc.) and their bottomline got affected, economic growth of both countries receded, stock markets plummeted etc. Business leaders from the United States wrote to both countries pleading with them to reconcile because of their importance in global chip/electronics/chemicals' production value chain. You think it is because those US' executives love Koreans and Japanese that made them write letters? Or you think Koreans and Japanese love themselves? They don't but the least they do is respect as both countries (esp Japan) know the consequences for any form of disrespect. This boycott never happened at this level when Korea was poor while Japan almost eclipsed the US to be the world's largest economy 30 years ago. But it started getting serious when Korea(ns) became rich and had the eleventh largest economy in the world

Aha! I realise you have an exceptional penchant for making false analogies!! Since you are good at dropping links without understanding them, DID you read that JAPAN ANNEXED ( annexation, or the transfer of political sovereignty over a chunk of land to a new state) Korea turning it into a colony?
Till their rule of Korea ended in 1945 after the ww2 loss? Did you also read that at the centre of this allegation that you are calling "quarrel" is about Japanese occupation of the Korean peninsula from 1910 to 1945 (war), particularly the use of forced labour.
And it being a period of war, anything and human rights are bound to be violated? Likewise Austrian hungary annexation, France Tahiti annexation, Portuguese Indian annexation etc.
FFS where in that article did you read that the events was as a result of racism? Or you now regard annexation as racism? Because at this stage there is no postulation we have not heard from you.
It is entirely a countries decision to sue its colonial masters for damage and exploitation of resources.
OGA GERRARD NO WHERE IN THIS STORY HAVE WE SEEN A CASE OF ANTI KOREAN RACISM in Japan. For one they are both Asians!

Gerrard59:

wager that if the vast majority of Sub-Saharan countries are as rich as South Korean and Malaysia combined, we can demand for reparations from every country that enslaved black people in whatever form and we would get paid. With wealth comes power and with power, you can talk when others are talking. Japan spoke 1, South Korea retorted loudly with 2 and everyone got affected. The black race should be rich to reduce racial discrimination and that can only happen when the dominant environment (SSA) is rich.

Oga you dont need to be Rich as a country who has suffered being under colonial rule to demand reparation!
The first treaty in 1965 had Japan out of post war and "mutual respect" provide more than $800m (£620m) in Japanese financial help to Korea.
AND DO NOT BE DECIEVED THIS PERIOD (1965) WAS JUST FOLLOWING THE KOREAN WARS AND SOUTH KOREA WAS ONE OF THE POOREST COUNTRIES WITH A GDP PER CAPITA OF 79$. IT WASNT UNTIL INDUSTRIALIZATION IN THE 80S THAT S.KOREA ECONOMY GAINED TRACTION.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_South_Korea

Facts from history Boss not what I now term "Gerrard theories"

Again you said
Gerrard59:

I never suggested AAs should develop Africa (that is the responsibility of Africans).

But all along you said in page 1 grin
Gerrard59:

If the discrimination gets too tough for a particular race, what do they do? They relocate to their dominant environment. White South Africans are doing same, Chinese Malaysians did same by relocating to Singapore, Brazilians of Japanese ancestry relocated to Japan. Question is: how many African Americans, blacks in Brazil, Britain and other places where they face discrimination can relocate to Sub-Saharan Africa?

And I also asked in page 2 for you to give links with dates in history where there were mass relocations from America by Asians or Asian Americans back to Asia for its development due to Anti-Asian Racism as you didnt reply it seems either it is another "Gerrard theory" or that my particular post did not submit grin

When you can tell me when this silly idea of "mass relocation to a country or areas of racial dominance for development" has resolved Racism in history or examples of how wealth saved an already prejudiced people or race from racial provocations - Wealth and richness didnt save the Jews anti-semitism in America, it didnt save Armenians in Ottoman Empire. It didnt help the 1800 - 1900s Anti-Asian Racism in America. Then, when you can, we'll consider your points as a solution. Till then - they remain "Gerrard theories"

Again, and I wont be tired of saying this. grin A Race's or continent's richness has nothing to do with Racism. Poverty is no justification for it and poverty has never been a cause of Racism.
Africans can and should develop their continent if they wish.
AAs have a different and unrelated Anti-Black racism struggle, they have already contributed to development of their continent and country. They dont need your help, you do your own.

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by coronavirus19: 3:13pm On May 31, 2020
cheesy Wow, I see the reason why y'all fail simple logical examination questions
annex1:
When and where have people been shown extreme Racism because their race / people is generally poor? As in the case of Africans that you speak of. I know of religion, I know skin color, taking up all the jobs etc as reason but poverty? Provide a link I'll love to be educated.

Building a developed African continent is primarily Africans in Africa's business and how doing so will command respect for them, and it is a welcome idea.

But it has no relation whatsoever to the struggles and the Anti-Black Racism AAs in the united states undergo. They have contributed equally to the development of America as a country and continent as any other race in the United States has and so they must reap.
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by annex1: 3:23pm On May 31, 2020
Excited for you. I hope all you have seen helps you in passing simple logical examination questions. Meanwhile if you dont have a contribution to this topic that I can counter or agree with, good luck in passing your exams.
coronavirus19:
cheesy Wow, I see the reason why y'all fail simple logical examination questions

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by Gerrard59(m): 5:17am On Jun 01, 2020
annex1:


Aha! I realise you have an exceptional penchant for making false analogies!! Since you are good at dropping links without understanding them, DID you read that JAPAN ANNEXED ( annexation, or the transfer of political sovereignty over a chunk of land to a new state) Korea turning it into a colony?
Till their rule of Korea ended in 1945 after the ww2 loss? Did you also read that at the centre of this allegation that you are calling "quarrel" is about Japanese occupation of the Korean peninsula from 1910 to 1945 (war), particularly the use of forced labour."

Again, and I wont be tired of saying this. grin A Race's or continent's richness has nothing to do with Racism. Poverty is no justification for it and poverty has never been a cause of Racism.
Africans can and should develop their continent if they wish.
AAs have a different and unrelated Anti-Black racism struggle, they have already contributed to development of their continent and country. They dont need your help, you do your own.



Although, I did not state it but I agree with you that Korea & Japan issues differ from racial discrimination but it is still a form of discrimination. Till date, Koreans are being discriminated in Japan but that has reduced considerably in the country compared to the heydays. Again, we agree to disagree.
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by tony5(m): 10:56am On Jun 08, 2020
annex1:
Racism or profiling has nothing to do with wealth.

Kanye west said this
"You see its broke nigga racism, that's that - Dont touch anything in the store"
"You see its rich nigga racism, that's that - Come back please buy more"

Needing the money and nothing more.

Christian Cooper who was potentially accused by a white woman who instantly knew to evoke centuries of caste privilege as a white woman and endanger the life of a black man is a Havard graduate who has worked as a comic writer and editor for Marvel. Nope doesnt sound like a poor individual.

There is also a footage of Florida’s only Black state attorney Aramis Ayala being pulled over by police for no reason because she was racially profiled.

Also realise there is anti-black racism, anti-asian racism and anti-Arab racism. Yet, historically, it’s black people who have most often found themselves at the bottom of the pile - maybe because of the days of massa and picking cotton on plantations.

In Brazil, black people (not immigrants but black brazilians) are treated as second class citizens.
Also in India, students of african descents are also persecuted.

According to the UK government’s race disparity audit, relative to whites and Asians, black defendants at crown court were the most likely to be remanded in custody. Between 2017 and 2018, black people in Britain were approximately 10 times more likely to be stopped and searched by the police than white people were, and three times more likely than Asians. (That is from the guardian no be me talk am)

I also wish to not remind you that black Americans from various economic classes in America having also American passports are at the receiving ends of racism and police brutality.

If you have a black skin, you are not racially abused because your social status is lower cadre or from a poor country. Nobody knows this until you are spoken to. YOU ARE RACIALLY ABUSED BECAUSE OF SKIN COLOR!

So except you are a very rich and popular black person which I'm sure you know all cannot be, expect good reception, politeness from people prolly because of your money. But like I said, racism has nothing to do with wealth.


my guy have money first before you condemn, money is power, it opens doors... The likes of Obama, Ben carson, okonjo iweala can be hated but not disrespected... With money luxeries are just free for you if you understand what i mean. Please ,grow your money

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by tony5(m): 12:08pm On Jun 08, 2020
annex1:


Aha! I realise you have an exceptional penchant for making false analogies!! Since you are good at dropping links without understanding them, DID you read that JAPAN ANNEXED ( annexation, or the transfer of political sovereignty over a chunk of land to a new state) Korea turning it into a colony?
Till their rule of Korea ended in 1945 after the ww2 loss? Did you also read that at the centre of this allegation that you are calling "quarrel" is about Japanese occupation of the Korean peninsula from 1910 to 1945 (war), particularly the use of forced labour.
And it being a period of war, anything and human rights are bound to be violated? Likewise Austrian hungary annexation, France Tahiti annexation, Portuguese Indian annexation etc.
FFS where in that article did you read that the events was as a result of racism? Or you now regard annexation as racism? Because at this stage there is no postulation we have not heard from you.
It is entirely a countries decision to sue its colonial masters for damage and exploitation of resources.
OGA GERRARD NO WHERE IN THIS STORY HAVE WE SEEN A CASE OF ANTI KOREAN RACISM in Japan. For one they are both Asians!



Oga you dont need to be Rich as a country who has suffered being under colonial rule to demand reparation!
The first treaty in 1965 had Japan out of post war and "mutual respect" provide more than $800m (£620m) in Japanese financial help to Korea.
AND DO NOT BE DECIEVED THIS PERIOD (1965) WAS JUST FOLLOWING THE KOREAN WARS AND SOUTH KOREA WAS ONE OF THE POOREST COUNTRIES WITH A GDP PER CAPITA OF 79$. IT WASNT UNTIL INDUSTRIALIZATION IN THE 80S THAT S.KOREA ECONOMY GAINED TRACTION.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_South_Korea

Facts from history Boss not what I now term "Gerrard theories"

Again you said


But all along you said in page 1 grin


And I also asked in page 2 for you to give links with dates in history where there were mass relocations from America by Asians or Asian Americans back to Asia for its development due to Anti-Asian Racism as you didnt reply it seems either it is another "Gerrard theory" or that my particular post did not submit grin

When you can tell me when this silly idea of "mass relocation to a country or areas of racial dominance for development" has resolved Racism in history or examples of how wealth saved an already prejudiced people or race from racial provocations - Wealth and richness didnt save the Jews anti-semitism in America, it didnt save Armenians in Ottoman Empire. It didnt help the 1800 - 1900s Anti-Asian Racism in America. Then, when you can, we'll consider your points as a solution. Till then - they remain "Gerrard theories"

Again, and I wont be tired of saying this. grin A Race's or continent's richness has nothing to do with Racism. Poverty is no justification for it and poverty has never been a cause of Racism.
Africans can and should develop their continent if they wish.
AAs have a different and unrelated Anti-Black racism struggle, they have already contributed to development of their continent and country. They dont need your help, you do your own.


maybe you don't understand, here is the simple summary about is write up. A country who have a rich economy have a substantial for it's citizen. Even if a citizen of such country travels to other countries, they are catered for because of the valuable contributions they have globally. Where a Usa or Japanese passport will get me is different from the one Nigeria will get me to and not to even to talk about the power of their currency. It's a shame on us thats Ghanian currency is more valuable than ours, relating it to racism, it's everywhere but why don't we concentrate on building a rich economy and see how things will fall in place naturally. You can't eradicate racism but can only be controlled by what we put in place. No one likes to identify with a failed state

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by Hotspotbro(m): 12:01pm On Jun 09, 2020
When will African nations will start making Nuclear Weapons and Aircraft engines....
When we can't even assemble phone or even watch..... Only toothpick and pencil....
Startups in Nigeria, get peeved and run to other nations thereby helping those nations develop the more. Why do you think those Nigerians in Sillicon valley can't come back?
Right now, i myself may japa out of this place... To where i can comfortably buy IT stuff cheaply...

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by Gerrard59(m): 3:54pm On Jun 09, 2020
Just saw that I had new commentators. cheesy

Hotspotbro:
When will African nations will start making Nuclear Weapons and Aircraft engines....
When we can't even assemble phone or even watch..... Only toothpick and pencil
....
Startups in Nigeria, get peeved and run to other nations thereby helping those nations develop the more. Why do you think those Nigerians in Sillicon valley can't come back?
Right now, i myself may japa out of this place... To where i can comfortably buy IT stuff cheaply...

Well, you start with the basics. Even powerful and rich Japan doesn't have nuclear weapons even though she can produce them in less than six months. Regarding pencil production, there is a facility that manufactures them somewhere in Akwa Ibom State. Prior to the recession, many Nigerians who worked in the tech industry abroad returned but they and other intellectwats masquerading as intellectuals voted Buhari, here we're.

tony5:
maybe you don't understand, here is the simple summary about is write up. A country who have a rich economy have a substantial for it's citizen. Even if a citizen of such country travels to other countries, they are catered for because of the valuable contributions they have globally. Where a Usa or Japanese passport will get me is different from the one Nigeria will get me to and not to even to talk about the power of their currency. It's a shame on us thats Ghanian currency is more valuable than ours, relating it to racism, it's everywhere but why don't we concentrate on building a rich economy and see how things will fall in place naturally. You can't eradicate racism but can only be controlled by what we put in place. No one likes to identify with a failed state

Nothing shameful on that provided we produce and export valuable goods in larger proportions than the Ghanaians considering our population. South Korea Won has less value than the naira which also converts to 4 naira with 1¥. Nigeria doesn't need a strong naira rather she needs constant electricity to drastically reduce the cost of production.

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by ripmyheartout: 5:50pm On Jun 19, 2020
annex1:
Racism or profiling has nothing to do with wealth.

Kanye west said this
"You see its broke nigga racism, that's that - Dont touch anything in the store"
"You see its rich nigga racism, that's that - Come back please buy more"

Needing the money and nothing more.

Christian Cooper who was potentially accused by a white woman who instantly knew to evoke centuries of caste privilege as a white woman and endanger the life of a black man is a Havard graduate who has worked as a comic writer and editor for Marvel. Nope doesnt sound like a poor individual.

There is also a footage of Florida’s only Black state attorney Aramis Ayala being pulled over by police for no reason because she was racially profiled.

Also realise there is anti-black racism, anti-asian racism and anti-Arab racism. Yet, historically, it’s black people who have most often found themselves at the bottom of the pile - maybe because of the days of massa and picking cotton on plantations.

In Brazil, black people (not immigrants but black brazilians) are treated as second class citizens.
Also in India, students of african descents are also persecuted.

According to the UK government’s race disparity audit, relative to whites and Asians, black defendants at crown court were the most likely to be remanded in custody. Between 2017 and 2018, black people in Britain were approximately 10 times more likely to be stopped and searched by the police than white people were, and three times more likely than Asians. (That is from the guardian no be me talk am)

I also wish to not remind you that black Americans from various economic classes in America having also American passports are at the receiving ends of racism and police brutality.

If you have a black skin, you are not racially abused because your social status is lower cadre or from a poor country. Nobody knows this until you are spoken to. YOU ARE RACIALLY ABUSED BECAUSE OF SKIN COLOR!

So except you are a very rich and popular black person which I'm sure you know all cannot be, expect good reception, politeness from people prolly because of your money. But like I said, racism has nothing to do with wealth.



In Brazil exist many racism but that is ridiculous. In Brazil all people have acess to free public schools. Black Brazilians have free condoms and contraceptive like all Brazilians. Black Brazilians have acess to public health like all Brazilians. We have respected black Brazilians singers and actors. Brazilians professionals like nursing, doctors, teachers treated black Brazilians very well. Of course exist much racism in Brazil society but that is not true the point 'Brazil is a satan of black people". How many countries in África getting free vaccines, free condoms, free public health, with a good doctors like Brazil? White Brazilians treated black Brazilians very well. Of course exist racism and many African Brazilians live in slums but not like the media portrays. We have here is a clear-cut example of media brainwashing.
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by annex1: 5:58pm On Jun 19, 2020
ripmyheartout:


In Brazil exist many racism but that is ridiculous. In Brazil all people have acess to free public schools. Black Brazilians have free condoms and contraceptive like all Brazilians. Black Brazilians have acess to public health like all Brazilians. We have respected black Brazilians singers and actors. Brazilians professionals like nursing, doctors, teachers treated black Brazilians very well. Of course exist much racism in Brazil society but that is not true the point 'Brazil is a satan of black people". How many countries in África getting free vaccines, free condoms, free public health, with a good doctors like Brazil? White Brazilians treated black Brazilians very well. Of course exist racism and many african Brazilians live in slums but not like the media portrays.

The comment that triggered you is an excerpt from this The guardian article. Please drop grievance with them in comment section.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/09/black-people-racism-anti-blackness-discrimination-minorities
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by ripmyheartout: 7:26pm On Jun 19, 2020
annex1:


The comment that triggered you is an excerpt from this The guardian article. Please drop grievance with them in comment section.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/09/black-people-racism-anti-blackness-discrimination-minorities
The Guardian and BBC hates Brazil. The Guardian is pure evil. The Guardian never say that African Brazilian singer Alexandre Pires is a Latin Grammy award winner. Or African Brazilian actress Thaís Araújo is one of the highest paid actresses in Brazil. Or in Brazil we have many projects for poor black kids in slums.
African Brazilian Singer IZA in Billboard Awards
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVKVUB7N_gw[/YouTube]
African Brazilian actress Thaís Araújo loreal campaign
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMzpmRfRjVQ[/YouTube]
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by Gerrard59(m): 1:34pm On Nov 12, 2020
Currently, vaccines are being developed by rich countries who have been severely affected by Coronavirus but I can bet you that when their populations get vaccinated, they would bar Africans from visiting their countries even though less people have died in Africa from Covid-19 than anywhere else.

Wait and see.

The power of poverty: https://www.washingtonpost.com//world/2020/11/12/vaccine-distribution-history-coronavirus-h1n1-h5n1/?utm_campaign=wp_todays_worldview&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_todayworld&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F2cb10d8%2F5facc05a9d2fda0efb650179%2F5ecc17e7ade4e276b3b6372f%2F10%2F64%2Ff2963cce74bdf5e582c89243323dfb54

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by Raalsalghul: 2:42pm On Nov 12, 2020
Gerrard59:
Currently, vaccines are being developed by rich countries who have been severely affected by Coronavirus but I can bet you that when their populations get vaccinated, they would bar Africans from visiting their countries even though less people have died in Africa from Covid-19 than anywhere else.

Wait and see.

The power of poverty: https://www.washingtonpost.com//world/2020/11/12/vaccine-distribution-history-coronavirus-h1n1-h5n1/?utm_campaign=wp_todays_worldview&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_todayworld&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F2cb10d8%2F5facc05a9d2fda0efb650179%2F5ecc17e7ade4e276b3b6372f%2F10%2F64%2Ff2963cce74bdf5e582c89243323dfb54

Interesting.

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by seguno2: 3:49am On Nov 15, 2020
AreaFada2:

While some of his assertions maybe correct, many were coloured by his own prejudices.

Many African societies were pretty well organised. Without any contact with Europeans or Asians.

The Romans wrote worse about other Europeans that they dismissed as Barbarians.

Nubians were black and went to conquer Egypt and ruled as black Pharaohs. Something Europeans of 1926 when Lugard wrote would have archeologically dismissed.

About same time Lugard was writing, Hitler dismissed Jews as an inferior race. An ancient people with a superior history of civilization than the Germans. Today Jews are the richest and most influential people per head in the world.

Over 100 years before Lugard wrote, Toussaint L'Ouverture led Haitians to defeat the French.

Haitians worked hard to win and their incentive was freedom. Which was and is priceless.

Remember that until about 40 years ago, maybe only 25% of Africans were educated in Western terms. It affected how we processed our history.

India alone has more deities than Africa. They were mostly polytheistic too. Not just pantheistic.

It's not so much how others define you that matter. It's what we do with ourselves.
Currently we practice a political system alien to us. We have other people's religions.
These are forms of colonialism that most Africans have not even realised.

I get am before na story.
Na who your plenty excuses epp
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by seguno2: 3:53am On Nov 15, 2020
ripmyheartout:

The Guardian and BBC hates Brazil. The Guardian is pure evil. The Guardian never say that African Brazilian singer Alexandre Pires is a Latin Grammy award winner. Or African Brazilian actress Thaís Araújo is one of the highest paid actresses in Brazil. Or in Brazil we have many projects for poor black kids in slums.
African Brazilian Singer IZA in Billboard Awards

Please where/how did the owners of the Guardian stop blacks/Africans from having our own powerful media projecting us positively to everyone in the world

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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by ChybuzzDD(m): 9:02am On Nov 20, 2020
ednut1:
You are yarning crap. Rich foreigners like Indians, Chinese, arabs still suffer racism. Many white people are not rich either and live oay check to pay check. Many of the Nigerians who studied in the uk from 1990s to 1960s were rich and still suffered racism

Between May and now, only 2 mad people(probably you and one other mad folk strolling aimlessly through nairaland) liked you comment, in comparison to that of the OP.

Should that be of any concern to you, bros??
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by ednut1(m): 1:56pm On Nov 20, 2020
ChybuzzDD:


Between May and now, only 2 mad people(probably you and one other mad folk strolling aimlessly through nairaland) liked you comment, in comparison to that of the OP.

Should that be of any concern to you, bros??
i don't post for likes. Are you ok now
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by Gerrard59(m): 5:28pm On Dec 02, 2020
Gerrard59:


Australia keeps accusing China of interfering in her politics and the Chinese banned Australian beef. Guess what? Australian farmers are angry with their government. Meanwhile, her neighbour - New Zealand - is extremely cautious when dealing with China because that's her biggest export market for literally everything New Zealand exports. This displayed itself when Fonterra - the country's biggest exporter - was accused by China of exporting tainted milk. Ministers from New Zealand and Fonterra executives had to go to China, apologised and promised to do better. How many Nigerian ministers have gone to China to demand that Chinese manufacturers sell quality products to the country? It's not possible because Nigerians are poor people and in fact the poorest in the world. Beggars aren't choosers, they take what others give them.

Regarding your statement about the most populated black nation being rich, well, that will be good but this is a game of numbers. The entire Sub-Saharan African countries need to be at least middle class like the Malaysians or as rich as the Singaporeans for a noticeable difference to be made. Foreign airlines disabuse Nigerian passengers, send the most derelict of aircrafts, horrible service etc. Do you think they can try that to the Chinese who constitute a huge proportion of global travellers? Look at the D&G example, how many Nigerians can afford original luxury goods?

A Chinese official posted a photoshopped picture of an Australian security personnel killing an Afghan, the Prime Minister of Australia demanded an apology which the Chinese have refused to offer. Rather, the Chinese raised levies on exports from Australia. The Aussies are currently in a of conundrum: wither security/historical ties with the US or economic survival with China?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/01/world/australia/china-australia-morrison-tweet.html
The tweet: https://twitter.com/zlj517/status/1333214766806888448?s=20 (The tweet is pinned at the top of his profile even after the Aussie PM told Twitter to remove it). Meanwhile, the Chinese government ordered Weibo (China's version of Twitter) to remove Morrison's reply which the company did.




Did China try same in the '90s and 2000s? No.
Can an African country try same? No. In fact, Australia can ban students from Sub-Saharan African countries and nothing will happen but she dares not do same against the Chinese no matter the tensions both countries are facing. Only the US can do it which she tried but after seeing the losses backtracked.

No one disrespects a rich person.

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