Ifeoluwav:

You don't get it yet, read my posts again.

Do you think the people that shipped themselves to Australia killed the natives took over their land, shipped themselves to North America did the same, shipped them selves to South America did similar, shipped them selves to South Africa did similar, came to Africa enslaved African Ancestors to build for them, came back later to colonize the same Africans, joined tribes together so that they will keep fighting each other. Did they get any retribution for all these? Did they apologize? ask yourselve how where they able to do all these?
Do you think they have repented or they are still cooking up something cunningly??

Now look at police brutality around the globe it is against which race? Have there been justice so far? Why is it so difficult to end police brutality around the globe when it is about human life? It is the same struggle for black people everywhere.
Africans don't get they are also facing the effect of racism around the globe because they live in countries mostly dominated by black people.
If you don't get it at this point, no more explanation, do your research.

Abeg!!! Racism is everywhere in the world, I have seen Countless Videos of Black South Africa beating up white people in their country, Do you know that White south africa are now living in constant fear of the black people??

Over the last 3years more than 6 white farmers has been killed in south Africa by the black south Africans!!

Racism is everywhere, A friend once told me that the reason black people are screaming racism is not because they really want to fight racism, it's because they're unhappy that they are not the one doing the racism!

And the police brutality you mentioned too, Are Nigerian Police not doing the same to their fellow black men here?? What's #EndSARS protest for?? Is it not against police brutality??


You see, one thing I hate about Africans is hypocrisy, And you right here is an hypocrite who hides from the truth

Raydos:


Abeg!!! Racism is everywhere in the world, I have seen Countless Videos of Black South Africa beating up white people in their country, Do you know that White south africa are now living in constant fear of the black people??

Over the last 3years more than 6 white farmers has been killed in south Africa by the black south Africans!!

Racism is everywhere, A friend once told me that the reason black people are screaming racism is not because they really want to fight racism, it's because they're unhappy that they are not the one doing the racism!

And the police brutality you mentioned too, Are Nigerian Police not doing the same to their fellow black men here?? What's #EndSARS protest for?? Is it not against police brutality??


You see, one thing I hate about Africans is hypocrisy, And you right here is an hypocrite who hides from the truth

Who suffers from racism the most?
Who gets justice the most and a priority of justice? You know if the world isn't playing games there can be sanctions on racism to reduce it, when will there be sanctions for both sides so that racism will reduce or be curtailed?

Who is benefittting from the chaos around the globe the most since slavery and colonisation?

And why aren't you saying anything about the post that you didn't highlight?

abbey621:


You're still not getting it, tribe does not necessarily mean better leadership or better life. Let's take your theory of federalism, are you saying states like Lagos, Oyo and even Ogun cannot give its citizens a better quality of life without increasing federal money?

Let me expose another problem, regional leadership might work for SW but what about SE and SS? Are you seriously saying these people should be comingled or each should have their own region? What of Northerners, we could also divide it into 3 or 4 regions depending on perspectives.

Finally, can you show me a democratic country in the world that operates true federalism. Certainly not USA or any top European country, why is it so? The answer is simple, without a common cuase, a common goal, what's the use of Nigeria? I can use the example of the USA again, California produces the most food items in the USA, should California dictate what happens to the funds of those resources or should it be shared across the entire country? I maintain my stance our poblem is not tribe but mentality, you keep saying we elect regional leaders for national positions but what have our regional leaders (Governors, House of Asembly Reps, LG Chaiman etc) done for their regions?

What guarantee do you have that once given absolute control over their resources, the regional leaders would choose patriotism over fat bank accounts?

I sincerely do not know what you want me to get or understand here ! Perhaps, if you remain focused on the subject matter and what brought about this discourse,you'll have a clear understanding of my points.

Some streets,possibly Europeans',were shown here and the question was "why don't we have these kind of streets in Nigeria ?" My answer to that was very simple and that's, the present system is not working and will never work for a country like Nigeria or any other African country that's heterogeneous like ours.

How on earth would any sensible person expect a unitary system of government to work in a country with sharp diverse background, culture, religion ,etc ? We are different people lumped together by the Europeans strictly for their own selfish economic gains and that's why it is difficult for us to work together and build an enviable nation like the Europeans.. Most European countries and others alike are ethnically homogenous people.

My point basically is that the heterogeneous nature of Nigeria demands that we should practise true federal system of government as practised during our first republic. We all could see the rapid developments that each region witnessed during that period. True federalism means given a group of people with same background, culture,belief system,same aspirations etc the freedom to own their future and develop at their own pace !

I find your argument that the U S does not practise true federal system of government quite laughable ! Come on,what are you saying ? United States is quite similar to Nigeria in terms of huge population with diverse ethnic groups and backgrounds. And this is why in each State,there are different law that governs their public life and administration - different state police departments, different laws and judicial systems ,etc. What is obtainable (law)in Virginia is certainly not what you'll find Ohio or Texas. They have different ways of doing things because they are ethnically different people ! California is the richest state in the U S because it has control over its resources and does not have to go to the White House ,with cap in hands, to beg for meagre shares from the federation's account.

What states like Lagos,Oyo,Ogun,Abia,Kano and others are getting from Abuja can never be enough to drive meaningful developments and that's the fact ! The present system is defective and can't deliver the desirable developments we all crave for. Did Awolowo, Azikiwe and Bello not achieve a lot with regional system of government ? Powers should be devoted to states ( regions) while Abuja is given responsibility to manage defence,foreign affairs and others businesses that are federal in nature. This is the only way out as there won't be any angel to perform any miracle from Aso rock !

We must go back to the regional system of government - Northern region,Western region and Eastern region - as practised in the first republic for us to witness rapid developments in our country. How do you fashion out a common goal or course for a people with different aspirations and beliefs ? Some people's aspiration may be to build some gold plated mosques in Sokoto while some may want to build a rocket site in Aba or have a world class University in Osogbo ! Are these people same to you ? Can they ever work together ? How do you influence their "mentality" to have a common goal ?

We are different people with different aspirations and priorities and that's why the present system is not working for the country. States should be collapsed into regions where people with same culture,values,aspirations etc are joined together to fashion a common course for themselves and to develop at their own pace while Abuja is retained as a unifying centre for all ! Today,Buhari is operating as if he was elected by his ethnic fulanis alone. Tomorrow, an Igbo man will definitely tow same line and are you going to blame any Yoruba for doing same ?

Regional system that is built on true federalism is the way out !

wiggle:
It's because of orderliness the buses are able to manoeuvre.. No jumping queues in traffic, no honking, no tauts drivers on the road.

It shows where there's order life is much easier.

My amazement is actually from the narrow roads

OROSUNBOLB:


I sincerely do not know what you want me to get or understand here ! Perhaps, if you remain focused on the subject matter and what brought about this discourse,you'll have a clear understanding of my points.

Some streets,possibly Europeans',were shown here and the question was "why don't we have these kind of streets in Nigeria ?" My answer to that was very simple and that's, the present system is not working and will never work for a country like Nigeria or any other African country that's heterogeneous like ours.

How on earth would any sensible person expect a unitary system of government to work in a country with sharp diverse background, culture, religion ,etc ? We are different people lumped together by the Europeans strictly for their own selfish economic gains and that's why it is difficult for us to work together and build an enviable nation like the Europeans.. Most European countries and others alike are ethnically homogenous people.

My point basically is that the heterogeneous nature of Nigeria demands that we should practise true federal system of government as practised during our first republic. We all could see the rapid developments that each region witnessed during that period. True federalism means given a group of people with same background, culture,belief system,same aspirations etc the freedom to own their future and develop at their own pace !

I find your argument that the U S does not practise true federal system of government quite laughable ! Come on,what are you saying ? United States is quite similar to Nigeria in terms of huge population with diverse ethnic groups and backgrounds. And this is why in each State,there are different law that governs their public life and administration - different state police departments, different laws and judicial systems ,etc. What is obtainable (law)in Virginia is certainly not what you'll find Ohio or Texas. They have different ways of doing things because they are ethnically different people ! California is the richest state in the U S because it has control over its resources and does not have to go to the White House ,with cap in hands, to beg for meagre shares from the federation's account.

What states like Lagos,Oyo,Ogun,Abia,Kano and others are getting from Abuja can never be enough to drive meaningful developments and that's the fact ! The present system is defective and can't deliver the desirable developments we all crave for. Did Awolowo, Azikiwe and Bello not achieve a lot with regional system of government ? Powers should be devoted to states ( regions) while Abuja is given responsibility to manage defence,foreign affairs and others businesses that are federal in nature. This is the only way out as there won't be any angel to perform any miracle from Aso rock !

We must go back to the regional system of government - Northern region,Western region and Eastern region - as practised in the first republic for us to witness rapid developments in our country. How do you fashion out a common goal or course for a people with different aspirations and beliefs ? Some people's aspiration may be to build some gold plated mosques in Sokoto while some may want to build a rocket site in Aba or have a world class University in Osogbo ! Are these people same to you ? Can they ever work together ? How do you influence their "mentality" to have a common goal ?

We are different people with different aspirations and priorities and that's why the present system is not working for the country. States should be collapsed into regions where people with same culture,values,aspirations etc are joined together to fashion a common course for themselves and to develop at their own pace while Abuja is retained as a unifying centre for all ! Today,Buhari is operating as if he was elected by his ethnic fulanis alone. Tomorrow, an Igbo man will definitely tow same line and are you going to blame any Yoruba for doing same ?

Regional system that is built on true federalism is the way out !

On point. This is one of the solution.

OROSUNBOLB:


I sincerely do not know what you want me to get or understand here ! Perhaps, if you remain focused on the subject matter and what brought about this discourse,you'll have a clear understanding of my points.

Some streets,possibly Europeans',were shown here and the question was "why don't we have these kind of streets in Nigeria ?" My answer to that was very simple and that's, the present system is not working and will never work for a country like Nigeria or any other African country that's heterogeneous like ours.

How on earth would any sensible person expect a unitary system of government to work in a country with sharp diverse background, culture, religion ,etc ? We are different people lumped together by the Europeans strictly for their own selfish economic gains and that's why it is difficult for us to work together and build an enviable nation like the Europeans.. Most European countries and others alike are ethnically homogenous people.

My point basically is that the heterogeneous nature of Nigeria demands that we should practise true federal system of government as practised during our first republic. We all could see the rapid developments that each region witnessed during that period. True federalism means given a group of people with same background, culture,belief system,same aspirations etc the freedom to own their future and develop at their own pace !

I find your argument that the U S does not practise true federal system of government quite laughable ! Come on,what are you saying ? United States is quite similar to Nigeria in terms of huge population with diverse ethnic groups and backgrounds. And this is why in each State,there are different law that governs their public life and administration - different state police departments, different laws and judicial systems ,etc. What is obtainable (law)in Virginia is certainly not what you'll find Ohio or Texas. They have different ways of doing things because they are ethnically different people ! California is the richest state in the U S because it has control over its resources and does not have to go to the White House ,with cap in hands, to beg for meagre shares from the federation's account.

What states like Lagos,Oyo,Ogun,Abia,Kano and others are getting from Abuja can never be enough to drive meaningful developments and that's the fact ! The present system is defective and can't deliver the desirable developments we all crave for. Did Awolowo, Azikiwe and Bello not achieve a lot with regional system of government ? Powers should be devoted to states ( regions) while Abuja is given responsibility to manage defence,foreign affairs and others businesses that are federal in nature. This is the only way out as there won't be any angel to perform any miracle from Aso rock !

We must go back to the regional system of government - Northern region,Western region and Eastern region - as practised in the first republic for us to witness rapid developments in our country. How do you fashion out a common goal or course for a people with different aspirations and beliefs ? Some people's aspiration may be to build some gold plated mosques in Sokoto while some may want to build a rocket site in Aba or have a world class University in Osogbo ! Are these people same to you ? Can they ever work together ? How do you influence their "mentality" to have a common goal ?

We are different people with different aspirations and priorities and that's why the present system is not working for the country. States should be collapsed into regions where people with same culture,values,aspirations etc are joined together to fashion a common course for themselves and to develop at their own pace while Abuja is retained as a unifying centre for all ! Today,Buhari is operating as if he was elected by his ethnic fulanis alone. Tomorrow, an Igbo man will definitely tow same line and are you going to blame any Yoruba for doing same ?

Regional system that is built on true federalism is the way out !

A round of applause for this person mehn!!

This is all I have been saying!! Infact GOD bless you bro!!

If I ever have the chance to become a president one day, This is definitely the kind of people I will want to have in my circle, People who reason like this!!

Raydos:



A round of applause for this person mehn!!

This is all I have been saying!! Infact GOD bless you bro!!

If I ever have the chance to become a president one day, This is definitely the kind of people I will want to have in my circle, People who reason like this!!

Yes. But before you become president find the root cause of the problems so that you can perform well because some of our leaders in the past and today had the same intention but when they got there they suddenly changed from no where. Find out why they changed suddenly.

Ifeoluwav:


You don't get it yet, read my posts again.

Do you think the people that shipped themselves to Australia killed the natives took over their land, shipped themselves to North America did the same, shipped them selves to South America did similar, shipped them selves to South Africa did similar, came to Africa enslaved African Ancestors to build for them, came back later to colonize the same Africans, joined tribes together so that they will keep fighting each other. Did they get any retribution for all these? Did they apologize? ask yourselve how where they able to do all these?
Do you think they have repented or they are still cooking up something cunningly??

Now look at police brutality around the globe it is against which race? Have there been justice so far? Why is it so difficult to end police brutality around the globe when it is about human life? It is the same struggle for black people everywhere.
Africans don't get they are also facing the effect of racism around the globe because they live in countries mostly dominated by black people.
If you don't get it at this point, no more explanation, do your research.

Ife , you're going too advanced for your average Nigerian.

You know that they get what you are saying but Nigeria is like hellfire for them and the hope of escaping to d white man's land won't allow them to be objective.

jajeri3216:


Ife , you're going too advanced for your average Nigerian.

You know that they get what you are saying but Nigeria is like hellfire for them and the hope of escaping to d white man's land won't allow them to be objective.

True, but as long as they keep wanting a developed nation this is the only way we can move forward after trying all other methods. From the response here, they haven't really understand what is happening. I am not surprised though I knew the possibilities before joining the conversation, not forcing them either. Many Africans from other parts of Africa already know what is happening but Nigerians will get it eventually.

Yea the white man makes his land attractive for them so that he can continue playing his mind games.

Raydos:



A round of applause for this person mehn!!

This is all I have been saying!! Infact GOD bless you bro!!

If I ever have the chance to become a president one day, This is definitely the kind of people I will want to have in my circle, People who reason like this!!

I say a big amen to your dream ! Thank you and may God bless you.

Ifeoluwav:


On point. This is one of the solution.

Thanks Iya mi !

OROSUNBOLB:


Thanks Iya mi !

So you're even a yoruba guy just like me??

Bro to be honest, I don't believe in One Nigeria anymore!!

I started supporting the Oduduwa secessonist last month, This country is obviously not working and there's no glimmer of hope that that's going to change anytime soon!!

Better for everyone to go their separate ways!!

Lmao apologize Wat will apology do at the moment? So if the white men apologize u think it will make our politicians do beta? Lemme tell u something people who think like u fail to realize, if u don't value ur race how do u expect other race to value ur people? We Africans don't even love or value our lives so wat do u expect from other race? Black politicians are full of greed, dey prefer to see us suffer while they enrich their pockets.....u can't go about blaming the white man forever okay besides these European countries also went through colonization, America was colonized even Great britian was also colonized by the Saxons so if u like continue to blame the Europeans till the end of times

Ifeoluwav:


You don't get it yet, read my posts again.

Do you think the people that shipped themselves to Australia killed the natives took over their land, shipped themselves to North America did the same, shipped them selves to South America did similar, shipped them selves to South Africa did similar, came to Africa enslaved African Ancestors to build for them, came back later to colonize the same Africans, joined tribes together so that they will keep fighting each other. Did they get any retribution for all these? Did they apologize? ask yourselve how where they able to do all these?
Do you think they have repented or they are still cooking up something cunningly??

Now look at police brutality around the globe it is against which race? Have there been justice so far? Why is it so difficult to end police brutality around the globe when it is about human life? It is the same struggle for black people everywhere.
Africans don't get they are also facing the effect of racism around the globe because they live in countries mostly dominated by black people.
If you don't get it at this point, no more explanation, do your research.

Is the white man supposed to be my friend? I don't give a shit about the white man so I don't expect them to care or love me ok.....
Our politicians are all black men so why will I want a white man to care about me? Or come here and make things beta for us? The earlier y'all realize that the white man owes u nothing the beta for us cos the only people who owe us their service is our politicians and is time for us to focus on them and leave the white man alone....

jajeri3216:
soon enough you'll say thunder fire lord luggard for this contraption.

She's not saying the government isn't corrupt, just telling u d White man is neither your friend or has any interest in saving u.

Raydos:
Even ordinary Windhoek in Namibia, Has a beautiful streets with well paved roads and sidewalks, and to imagine Nigeria is 10 times richer than Namibia oo

We're finished in this country

Come to Abuja. U will see similar thing there.

Obioma993:
Lmao apologize Wat will apology do at the moment? So if the white men apologize u think it will make our politicians do beta? Lemme tell u something people who think like u fail to realize, if u don't value ur race how do u expect other race to value ur people? We Africans don't even love or value our lives so wat do u expect from other race? Black politicians are full of greed, dey prefer to see us suffer while they enrich their pockets.....u can't go about blaming the white man forever okay besides these European countries also went through colonization, America was colonized even Great britian was also colonized by the Saxons so if u like continue to blame the Europeans till the end of times

You still don't get it, read my posts again

Litmus:
Sometimes the thing that gets me about Nigeria city environments, the unacceptableness of the thing, is the squalor you get in all the states, in all the cities. It always amazes me how nations even more impoverished than Nigeria can manage to seem somewhat habitable given their circumstance in the form of wars, poverty and what not and yet comparable places in Nigeria can seem nightmarish by contrast, uninhabitable even at a crunch.

See war-torn Afghanistan as an example:



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No place in Nigeria should look as bad as those images of Aba market, places in Lagos and all over Nigeria often posted on Niaraland. These issues go beyond corruption; these are issues of rank ignorance and the simple inability of too many of those in position of power in Nigeria.

Technological innovations and mechanism to build them in quantities is difficult, symmetrical cities, pavements, roads, trees and maintaining them –essentially the business of bricks and mortar is not.

Lol.dont make me laugh. And what is special about this.

There's nothing to understand from ur comments, is obvious u think the black race is behind because of the white men but I disagree because the little issues we are facing here in Nigeria is just because of greedy n wicked politicians who embezzle public funds for their selfish interest, it has nothing to do with the white men

Ifeoluwav:


You still don't get it, read my posts again

Raydos:
Do we even have parks?? And recreational centres to have fun at free time after a hectic day NO we don't!!


Everything is messed up here!!

Yes we do. They are so many in abuja

Obioma993:
There's nothing to understand from ur comments, is obvious u think the black race is behind because of the white men but I disagree because the little issues we are facing here in Nigeria is just because of greedy n wicked politicians who embezzle public funds for their selfish interest, it has nothing to do with the white men

Gra gra will not take us anywhere. Why don't you just patiently read all my posts again.
Also I didn't say our politicians are good.

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Obioma993:
Is the white man supposed to be my friend? I don't give a shit about the white man so I don't expect them to care or love me ok.....
Our politicians are all black men so why will I want a white man to care about me? Or come here and make things beta for us? The earlier y'all realize that the white man owes u nothing the beta for us cos the only people who owe us their service is our politicians and is time for us to focus on them and leave the white man alone....

We been knew . It's more directed at those running to cnn and sky news or expecting saviour's.

Fortune109:
Broad Street Lagos...

The OP must be a villager.

kingsavage:
what infrastructure.. Abuja is more beautiful than gaborone

Add Windhoek to. The op is hopelessly suffering from inferiority complex or probably lives in his village

rossniti:


Your mother's stinking cun.t.

What about the other lines that have been completed across the nation so far? Why not highlight those instead of one that is slow to complete?

Because you are a racist bastard who has no interest in our progress.

Actually he is a black man with inferiority complex.

Vlain:


Yes we do. They are so many in abuja

You mean the 200million population of Nigeria are all living in Abuja??

IronGalaxy:
Racist attitudes have nothing to do with ownership of anything. I can have a strong dislike of Chinese people but end up getting a job in China. Use your brain please

A-ha

JaceBlaze:


A-ha.Tlhis forum is full of slow people

Raydos:


So you're even a yoruba guy just like me??

Bro to be honest, I don't believe in One Nigeria anymore!!

I started supporting the Oduduwa secessonist last month, This country is obviously not working and there's no glimmer of hope that that's going to change anytime soon!!

Better for everyone to go their separate ways!!

Yes,I'm a Yoruba man ,ojulowo omo Oduduwa lati Ipinle Osun !

I honestly can't fault you regarding your stance on Nigeria. You see,when the Living are not alive to their responsibilities,remembering the Dead is inevitable ! It is the responsibility of the present crop of our politicians to urgently restructure this nation for us to have any semblance of hope for better tomorrow. Ordinary, there is nothing wrong with Nigeria as a country but everything is wrong with the system we operate. The challenge now is that, how do we fix this system that is not working for us ? It's simple,let's all admit that the present system is not working for us as a nation. It is only then we can find a solution to it. But in a situation whereby a group of people or a section of the country believes that there is no problem or that everything is fine - that the status quo should stand, the solution to our national issues will continue to be elusive.

Nigeria,just like most African countries, was wrongly structured by the colonial powers. Africans with diverse cultures,values and belief systems were lumped together on the basis of common skin colour,whereas,they are different people ! As a Yoruba man, I will definitely feel more at home among the Yorubas of Benin republic and Togo than I will feel among the Kanuris of Borno state in Nigeria who are,supposedly, my compatriots. Same thing goes for Fulanis in Northern Nigeria who see fulanis from Niger republic, Mali ,Guinea etc as part of one indivisible jallo members !

Therefore,we need to sit down at a around table and be truthful to ourselves as to whether or not we want to remain together as one people and on what basis. This is the restructuring everybody is talking about, except the few ones who benefit apparently from the present imbalances. What makes a country great is not the size of its population. After all,what is the population of countries like Belgium,Switzerland, ,Norway,Denmark,Austria,Deutschland etc ? These are all tiny countries in terms of population and even landmass but is Nigeria in anyway comparable to anyone of them in terms of developmental indices ? Heck, no ! But certainly, there are lots of advantages in number too. China ,Russia and USA are good references here.

Therefore, if Nigeria is not working and we seem incapable of finding any workable solution to our problems, it will certainly be a good idea to go our separate ways PEACEFULLY. I have no doubt in my mind as to what we,the Yoruba, can do for ourselves as an independent people within our independent state. This is why Oduduwa secessionist agenda is not a bad idea and I share the sentiment too. Nigeria is not working and may not work if we continue walking the same old path.

However,with true federalism, we can have our nation,Oduduwa nation,within Nigeria and we will be fine. We can actually kill two birds with a stone ! Regional system of government that operates on a tested and trusted principle of true federalism is just all we need ! Everybody,Yoruba, Igbo, Fulani, Hausa,Erik,Ibibio,Nupe,Ijaw,all will be fine and Nigeria will experience a never seen before kind of positive transformation.

NNAMDIII:
Academy is a beautiful place bro, the first time wey i go nda perm site, Allah that place be like outside country







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