naptu2:


What the hell? Is that the evidence that we are asking for? How does that prove anything?

Anyway, your question is, "Show me one Nigerian leader, just one who has ever been charged for corruption" (please don't shift the goal post later).

I'll give you two, Nnamdi Azikiwe and Sani Abacha.

Show me their charge sheets pls

Amos1423:

The British didn't travel all the way down to Nigeria to develop it, they came for business, when we got tired we sent them out because we understood their business exploit affected us hugely.


Our problem is not with the britisB cause we have seen the way they're running their country to almost perfect state, our problem is with the ones that thought they could do it but became far worse and dehumanising than the business men themselves.

Nigerian leaders are 1000 times BETTER than the British colonial looters were. This is something many of you are too thick to understand.

They did not come for "business". They came to LOOT YOUR RESOURCES. That is what colonialism is about - looting. Not
"business".

The British ruled for 63 years and built not a single university or power station in Nigeria. Kainji Dam was our first power plant, and was commissioned by the Balewa administration in 1964.

Today we have built 200 universities since independence. When the Brits left, Nigeria was just a big bush with nothing but illiterate village peasants and nake.d malnourished children.

Today under indigenous rule, you are literate and exposed, whereas under colonial rule, your grandparents were illiterate village peasants. Indigenous rulers may be corrupt, but they have invested more in the country than the colonialists by a huge margin, from education to infrastructure, you name it.

Agbegbaorogboye:

He never said he buried it in the sand. He said he brought it to UK. Did you watch the video?

I have modified my reply...Read it.

The Abachas are known by everybody to be billionaires ditto IBB and perhaps OBj....Name Gowon's investments in the UK and Nigeria that will make you believe this allegation against him.

Reference:
Yeah. My dad told me this story many years back, I would say very reluctantly. Was common knowledge amongst those of them working in the UK during the civil war. Many, many things happened that Nigerians are unaware about before, during and after the war about people some of whom are considered national heroes today.

Today I know more about the First and Second World wars, the Korean War and the Vietnam war than the Civil War in my country. We are a nation of deep historical deficit. We know very little about this country called Nigeria, her history and her people. Little wonder we keep stumbling. There is nothing to learn from.

cc: BreconHills and naptu2. See this

Neddstark:


This was a verbal assertion from a young MP. Please I am not arguing or defending nobody. Adesina was accused of non-transparency in his first term as president of AFDB by the West but was cleared. GEJ was accused of preventing the rescue of the Chibok girls by the UK media but he gave his defense. Gowon was never a saint, but an allegation of that magnitude needs ample proof sir.

Look at the State of your country.

Do you need the west to tell you that your leaders have looted your future.

Was it not Gowon that said spending excess money is the problem?

Well, he didn't spend it. He just moved It to the UK.

It may Also be why the UK was solidly behind him during the civil war.

I learnt that he was fondly called the "queen's boy" in the Royal court whenever he came to the UK to curry support.

sangresan:


I have modified my reply...Read it.

The Abachas are known by everybody to be billionaires ditto IBB and perhaps OBj....Name Gowon's investments in the UK and Nigeria that will make you believe this allegation against him.

He left to the UK after the coup. Look at that MP. He's quite young. If he did not have facts or have information about such, believe me, Gowon is not a poster boy for corruption in Nigeria. Just as you mentioned. The easy targets are Abacha, IBB and OBJ. I doubt he could have known about Gowon from listening to tales on the street of London. It must be some serious information for him to have mentioned Gowon.

Neddstark:


I am not defending any politician. They are the cause of Nigeria's problem. But however, I am of the opinion that every allegation should be backed up with proof/facts.

You're either child or an ignorant stupid idiot with this kind of reasoning. Somebody just told you that gowon stayed 9 yrs in power and could have used that period to loot as much as he wanted without waiting for when he will be toppled and here you are asking the receipt of the said loot. Do you honestly think that UK education system is so shamble that they don't teach their successive students history of their country and that of other countries? Do you think that this man will come out and start making a weighty allegations without having proofs and backing? Btw, is this the first time you're hearing about Gowon looted half of the central bank? Tomorrow you will ask for the proof that buhari have looted more than all of them put together.

Agbegbaorogboye:

I expect you know what Nigerian leader means.
Show the charge sheet for Abacha, IBB, OBJ, Goodluck, Azikiwe.
FYI, Patience was not charged for corruption. The claim was that the money in the account does not belong to her while she claimed it did. Get that straight or better still read up on it.

Newspapers reported it as a corruption case...They are all Nigerian leaders/statesmen at one time or the other...

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rossniti:



If only these slaves we call Nigerians had your common sense and dignity.

Imagine. The person that is HOUSING your money is coming out to shout "corruption" to make himself look good, while throwing his local errand boys under the bus, and Nigerian dumb slaves are taken in by such elementary deceit and gross hypocrisy. Disgusting.

Is it just me or has anyone observed for long how this guy goes on about every thread spewing rubbish, and sounding as if he is the know-all and only pure and original Nigerian in this country? To what end? Do you really think you are more Nigerian or patriotic than most of us? . I've noticed with disgust how you are quick to counter opposing arguments often with unwarranted harshness, even as far as labelling people racists or slaves just for disagreeing with you. What do you hope to archive with this uncivilised behaviour?

That said, I am glad this MP gave us a glimpse about how Gowon milk our country dry and loot its resources to far away London. He is among the many crooks and hoodlums we called past leaders who have achieved their mission of bringing our economy to its knees . An investigation revealed $400billion was stoled from Nigeria coffers between 1960-1999

The earlier people like this guy realize Africa problems and particularly Nigeria problems are it's leaders and bad governance the better for us all.

lamentor78:
If I don't know anything I knew that of Abdulsalam , he packed raw dollars, to his hilltop house in Minna

And today he is the chairman of the Peace Committee
These our leaders self. Yahoo boys suppose go dey learn format from them

Agbegbaorogboye:


cc: BreconHills and naptu2. See this

My God!

I swore to myself in 2014 that I would never engage in the silly rigmarole that you guys play on this site.

I'm sure you have google, search for Attorney General v Mohammed Abacha and others (a case of receiving stolen property), search for thr various criminal cases against Sani Abacha's estate and also search for Nnamdi Azikiwe's case before the Foster-Sutton Tribunal regarding the ACB.

While you are at it, find out the meaning of affirmati non neganti incumbit probatio and tell me if any of the nonsense that you've posted here shows that Gowon took half the Central Bank to London.

I don't have time for unseriousness and rubbish. Provide evidence or shut up.


Good day.

Agbegbaorogboye:


He left to the UK after the coup. Look at that MP. He's quite young. If he did not have facts or have information about such, believe me, Gowon is not a poster boy for corruption in Nigeria. Just as you mentioned. The easy targets are Abacha, IBB and OBJ. I doubt he could have known about Gowon from listening to tales on the street of London. It must be some serious information for him to have mentioned Gowon.

Or a slip of the tongue?

Why do you people always believe everything you read or heard?

I'm telling you that there is no way Gowon could have stolen money from Nigeria without him being exposed by Murtala, his bitter rival....Sit down and read the history of Nigeria joor.

rossniti:


Nigerian leaders are 1000 times BETTER than the British colonial looters were. This is something many of you are too thick to understand.

They did not come for "business". They came to LOOT YOUR RESOURCES.

The British ruled for 63 years and built not a single university or power station in Nigeria. Kainji Dam was our first power plant, and was commissioned by the Balewa administration in 1964.

Today we have built 200 universities since independence. When the Brits left, Nigeria was just a big bush with nothing but illiterate village peasants and nake.d malnourished children.

Today under indigenous rule, you are literate and exposed, whereas under colonial rule, your grandparents were illiterate village peasants. Indigenous rulers may be corrupt, but they have invested more in the country than the colonialists by a huge margin, from education to infrastructure, you name it.

Did you read the part I said Nigeria to the British was/is a mere business ground?

The british didn't come here for development but merely business and at this discovery they were asked out by the pro-colonialist.


The question isn't about what they British did but what those who made Nigerians believe they're better off than the colonial masters, those who raised hope of our people but failed.


They're the ones to be questioned cause they too came from amongst us.

sangresan:


Or a slip of the tongue?

Why do you people always believe anything you read or heard?

I'm telling you that there is no way Gowon could have stolen money from Nigeria without him being exposed by Murtala, his bitter rival....Sit down and read the history of Nigeria joor.

What of Buhari. After he entered govt, he gave Jonathan a clean bill and today they are good buddies. If you think anyone is a bitter rival in the power games, then you don't understand anything.

uncleinans:


Don't believe everything you read my brother, 3 million never died in the civil war. War that was fought with mere arrow and stick. Even Syria civil war where chemical weapons was used and has lasted for more than 9 years is yet to record 1.5 million death.

Are you a kid? How old are you, please? Which civil war was fought with bow and sticks? It is offensive to read some of the things you people post here. A war from 1967-1970 was fought with bow and sticks?

Oh me! There were guns! There were airports then! Nigeria had a good military which was equipped by Britain. Then Nigeria cut off food supply channels so many of the Biafran people died from starvation and hunger.

Go. And. Read!!!

rossniti:


Nigerian leaders are 1000 times BETTER than the British colonial looters were. This is something many of you are too thick to understand.

They did not come for "business". They came to LOOT YOUR RESOURCES. That is what colonialism is about - looting. Not
"business".

The British ruled for 63 years and built not a single university or power station in Nigeria. Kainji Dam was our first power plant, and was commissioned by the Balewa administration in 1964.

Today we have built 200 universities since independence. When the Brits left, Nigeria was just a big bush with nothing but illiterate village peasants and nake.d malnourished children.

Today under indigenous rule, you are literate and exposed, whereas under colonial rule, your grandparents were illiterate village peasants. Indigenous rulers may be corrupt, but they have invested more in the country than the colonialists by a huge margin, from education to infrastructure, you name it.

Complete balderdash!

The British looted your nation, but built theirs to become a super world power. They built their nation to rule the world. And yes, they ruled the world. They imposed their language on more than half of the world. In fact, their language is spoken almost everywhere. But your leaders, till date, loot their own country Nigeria. Then you turn around and say your leaders are better than British colonial leaders. By what law did you come to such shocking conclusions?

You can keep supporting the kleptocrats in Nigeria but don't act as though everybody is a fool.

When in the world did Nigerian leaders become better than the leaders of Britian, yet they cannot make a city as cool as JoBurg or Cairo. Abeg shift joor!

Agbegbaorogboye:


That your last line, Abacha did exactly that

Abaxha grew the foreign reserves from $500m to $8bn during his rule. He might have done as you said but not the simpleton way it was projected

themaestro08:


Is it just me or has anyone observed for long how this guy goes on about every thread spewing rubbish, and sounding as if he is the know-all and only pure and original Nigerian in this country? To what end? Do you really think you are more Nigerian or patriotic than most of us? . I've noticed with disgust how you are quick to counter opposing arguments often with unwarranted harshness, even as far as labelling people racists or slaves just for disagreeing with you. What do you hope to archive with this uncivilised behaviour?

That said, I am glad this MP gave us a glimpse about how Gowon milk our country dry and loot its resources to far away London. He is among the many crooks and hoodlums we called past leaders who have achieved their mission of bringing our economy to its knees . An investigation revealed $400billion was stoled from Nigeria coffers between 1960-1999

The earlier people like this guy realize Africa problems and particularly Nigeria problems are it's leaders and bad governance the better for us all.

If you had a working brain, which you don't, you would realise that corruption, like drug trafficking, is a RACKET that involves multiple players in multiple countries, who facilitate the moving around of money.

This is why when the US govt goes after drug gangs, they don't limit it to US based mules, who are often the small fry. They send special agents to Colombia, Mexico etc, to fish out the heads of the networks, and take them out, or drag them to the US for trial etc.

UNTIL WE HAVE THAT SAME APPROACH TO CORRUPTION IN NIGERIA, you will NEVER end that problem here.

Until you grow the balls to tell the big banks and big shots in England, France, Switzerland, etc to STOP ENABLING CORRUPTION IN AFRICA, you will keep being STUPID.

LordOfTheGame:



You're either child or an ignorant stupid idiot with this kind of reasoning. Somebody just told you that gowon stayed 9 yrs in power and could have used that period to loot as much as he wanted without waiting for when he will be toppled and here you are asking the receipt of the said loot. Do you honestly think that UK education system is so shamble that they don't teach their successive students history of their country and that of other countries? Do you think that this man will come out and start making a weighty allegations without having proofs and backing? Btw, is this the first time you're hearing about Gowon looted half of the central bank? Tomorrow you will ask for the proof that buhari have looted more than all of them put together.

It is members of your family that are ignorant stupid idiots.

The UK are hypocrites they are part of the major problem confronting nigeria why are they revealing all these now after over 40yrs?

Agbegbaorogboye:


What of Buhari. After he entered govt, he gave Jonathan a clean bill and today they are good buddies. If you think anyone is a bitter rival in the power games, then you don't understand anything.

You don't understand Nigerian history...There was no rivalry between Buhari and Goodluck....

Goodluck handed over to Buhari peacefully. Besides, Buhari retained many of Goodluck's appointees and they continued to consult with each other years later.

Murtala overthrew Gowon's govt and he went after known Gowon's associates in govt...The rivalry between the two groups culminated in the Dimka coup of 1976 that led to the assassination of Murtala.

That is the big difference.

RuudVanNisteroy:
Gowon-Took 50% of the Central Bank
IBB- Took 60% of the Central Bank
Abacha- Took 70% of the Central Bank
Abdusalami: Took 90% of the Central Bank and left OBJ with nothing in the coffers.
Buhari- I wonder how much Buhari has taken

Buhari is using Nigeria as a collateral to collect enough foreign loans in trillions for his generations to remain forever rich.....he then dishes out crumbs to Nigerians in the name of survival fund....and he uses Osinbajo to front such mediocre

naptu2:


My God!

I swore to myself in 2014 that I would never engage in the silly rigmarole that you guys play on this site.

I'm sure you have google, search for Attorney General v Mohammed Abacha and others (a case of receiving stolen property), search for thr various criminal cases against Sani Abacha's estate and also search for Nnamdi Azikiwe's case before the Foster-Sutton Tribunal regarding the ACB.

While you are at it, find out the meaning of affirmati non neganti incumbit probatio and tell me if any of the nonsense that you've posted here shows that Gowon took half the Central Bank to London.

I don't have time for unseriousness and rubbish. Provide evidence or shut up.


Good day.

What kind of joke is this? I really don't like it. I was prepared to concede to you if you came forward with facts of "A NIGERIAN LEADER CHARGED WITH CORRUPTION" instead you came forward with Azikiwe and the colonialists and the Abacha estate!! Guy you should have just said your good day and moved on.

I am not the person making the allegation and your legal maxim is actually the reason I asked that question of you. If no Nigerian leader has ever been charged for corruption not to mentioned being indicted for corruption, then can we safely assume that no Nigerian leader is corrupt as you would want to push?
My point is the MP who made that statement does not know Gowon from anywhere so he could not just have conjured such statement out of nowhere as you all want it to look like. Heck, he was probably not born when Gowon ruled Nigeria. I now call your attention to a Nigerian saying his father worked in the UK High commission in London then and such stories abound then and you flare up.
Be careful oo!!

sangresan:


Newspapers reported it as a corruption case...They are all Nigerian leaders/statesmen at one time or the other...

Imageqz.com › africa › a-31-million-s...
Corruption in Nigeria: Former first lady, Patience Jonathan ...
15 Sep 2016 — Patience Jonathan, the colorful wife of Nigeria's ex -president, Goodluck Jonathan, has ...

Is the newspaper a prosecutor in a court now? If it is a corruption case which is criminal under our laws, and it is common knowledge she actually lost the case, why is she moving around and not in jail?
The case was actually instigated by her to claim monies EFCC wanted to forfeit. Nothing like corruption case there. That is besides the fact that Patience and Goodluck are not the same person. Patience was never Nigeria's leader.

When was Tinubu and even Ahmadu Bello ever Nigeria's leader. You can be a leader and not be a statesman and you can also be a statesman while not being a leader. Google what a country's leader means. Chai!!

GreyLaw:


Complete balderdash!

The British looted your nation, but built theirs to become a super world power. They built their nation to rule the world. And yes, they ruled the world. They imposed their language on more than half of the world. In fact, their language is spoken almost everywhere. But your leaders, till date, loot their own country Nigeria. Then you turn around and say your leaders are better than British colonial leaders. By what law did you come to such shocking conclusions?

You can keep supporting the kleptocrats in Nigeria but don't act as though everybody is a fool.

When in the world did Nigerian leaders become better than the leaders of Britian, yet they cannot make a city as cool as JoBurg or Cairo. Abeg shift joor!

Use your head, dunce. I meant that Nigerian leaders are better FOR NIGERIA than the British colonialists who ruled Nigeria for 63 years before them.

I also do not subscribe to praising the British for looting and raiding half the world to enrich their country. If everyone did that, what kind of world would we have, or does your donkey brain not think along such lines?

themaestro08:


Is it just me or has anyone observed for long how this guy goes on about every thread spewing rubbish, and sounding as if he is the know-all and only pure and original Nigerian in this country? To what end? Do you really think you are more Nigerian or patriotic than most of us? . I've noticed with disgust how you are quick to counter opposing arguments often with unwarranted harshness, even as far as labelling people racists or slaves just for disagreeing with you. What do you hope to archive with this uncivilised behaviour?

That said, I am glad this MP gave us a glimpse about how Gowon milk our country dry and loot its resources to far away London. He is among the many crooks and hoodlums we called past leaders who have achieved their mission of bringing our economy to its knees . An investigation revealed $400billion was stoled from Nigeria coffers between 1960-1999

The earlier people like this guy realize Africa problems and particularly Nigeria problems are it's leaders and bad governance the better for us all.

Baba leave that guy. His case is different. It's a case of olowo gba iyawo ole, ole n se la ilahi

Agbegbaorogboye:


He stole Biafra money too and hid it in his headtie and ran away to Ivory Coast

You too, mention just one looting scenario of Gowon

Lol....you funny oo.... why will I even bother mentioning one when my learned colleague in the British Parliament has already done that. Isn't that enough reason to be soooo....proud of your war hero?! As for the Ojukwu you mentioned, remember that is was once the son of the richest man in Africa. He funded the war, so where exactly did he get the money he stole?

grandstar:


Abaxha grew the foreign reserves from $500m to $8bn during his rule. He might have done as you said but not the simpleton way it was projected

Really? He could have grown it to $14bn at the last count instead but I guess he had a sharing contract between himself and Nigeria

EMMY76:
The UK are hypocrites they are part of the major problem confronting nigeria why are they revealing all these now after over 40yrs?

Are you aware that Britain was drilling oil in the delta and selling since 1914, but it was only after independence in 1960 that Nigerians discovered they had oil in commercial quantities in the same delta?

These are the same British lecturing us about not being corrupt.

sangresan:


You don't understand Nigerian history...There was no rivalry between Buhari and Goodluck....

Goodluck handed over to Buhari peacefully. Besides, Buhari retained many of Goodluck's appointees and they continued to consult with each other years later.

Murtala overthrew Gowon's govt and he went after known Gowon's associates in govt...The rivalry between the two groups culminated in the Dimka coup of 1976 that led to the assassination of Murtala.

That is the big difference.

Ok. Buhari also overthrew Shagari. Yet he never charged him for corruption.

Don't forget Buhari ran against Jonathan twice. He even threatened dogs and baboons at one of such races. So I don't know what you mean by they were not rivals. Thing is once this guys get into office, espirit de corp takes over.
Same murtala was sending money to Gowon for his schooling don't forget

pyxon:
UK Parliamentarian Exposes How Gowon Stole Money 'Half Of The Central Bank'

Here is the exact Video where the UK parliamentarian made the allegations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP1WhuRAkoA

During the debate today, Monday the UK Parliament discussed about the #EndSars protest as well as the excesses of the Nigerian government officials. In that session, a shocking revelation was made where a UK Parliament member revealed that Nigerian Hero, civil war veteran and former Head of state stole so much money - it could be equated as "Half the cnetral bank of Nigeria', - during his reign as leader of the nation and hid it in London.

Here is the full video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTKMUEpHWoE

GOWON that is been celebrated was actually a bigger thief than ABACHA, men dis news shock me ooo laslas revolution the KEY