Openbusiness:
Pennsylvania certified their elections too, right? See what's happening there now, and this is a leftwing media BTW, and DEM Mainstream are refusing to broadcast certain realities but choose to broadcast only the news they think favors them. But it doesn't matter and it doesn't stop what is happening from happening even if they refuse to cover it or try to hide it from their supporters. But very soon, what will happen in all the contested States will be too big to hide

Pennsylvania Republican Lawmakers Introduce Resolution Disputing 2020 Election Results
November 27, 2020 at 4:58 pm

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/11/27/pennsylvania-republicans-dispute-2020-election-results-resolution/

Did u read at all ?

They want to leave it in dispute pending the time the hearing on the case is done. (THIS IS NOT VICTORY !)

The case was thrown out at appeal court same yesterday already.

Your terms on Main Stream etc already shows Ur source of info

Come off it bro, so u won't av hypertension !

Openbusiness:
You don't still understand. That a case is being thrown out by the Lower Courts IS NOT a disadvantage to Trump. It is actually an advantage. Because the faster they thrown it out, the more they can APPEAL and the appeals keep pushing the case up and up till it gets to SCOTUS. Trump doesn't need to present full evidence now, that will be too stupid. As of now, they even have whistleblower Democrats ready to testify to voter fraud and how they participated and carried out voter fraud. But if these things are revealed now, it puts many witnesses lives at risk, because the Dems will go for assassination or threaten them to silence through the back door behind the scenes. And then it will slow down the case from reaching the SCOTUS fast enough. The mother of all litigation and evidence will be presented before the SCOTUS, not the lower Circuit Courts controlled by Dems. Trump is teaching you Politics 101 Roulette, sit back and learn

U are day dreaming !

How many paragraphs full of nonsense conspiracy theories.

I wish I can place a huge bet on this. So that u lose a fortune and next time u stop following a con man or believing everything he says.

SCOTUS ko, SCOTRUM ni

Read what Ur fellow Maga wasted below

https://news.yahoo.com/man-sues-refund-2-5m-235656020.html

Openbusiness:
You don't still understand. That a case is being thrown out by the Lower Courts IS NOT a disadvantage to Trump. It is actually an advantage. Because the faster they thrown it out, the more they can APPEAL and the appeals keep pushing the case up and up till it gets to SCOTUS. Trump doesn't need to present full evidence now, that will be too stupid. As of now, they even have whistleblower Democrats ready to testify to voter fraud and how they participated and carried out voter fraud. But if these things are revealed now, it puts many witnesses lives at risk, because the Dems will go for assassination or threaten them to silence through the back door behind the scenes. And then it will slow down the case from reaching the SCOTUS fast enough. The mother of all litigation and evidence will be presented before the SCOTUS, not the lower Circuit Courts controlled by Dems. Trump is teaching you Politics 101 Roulette, sit back and learn

You dont introduce new evidence in the supreme court. You argue your case and tell them you feel the lower courts got it wrong.

Mynd44:

You dont introduce new evidence in the supreme court. You argue your case and tell them you feel the lower courts got it wrong.

They don't understand all that and they don't even care to understand.


What do u expect, if Trump is that ignorant. Followers would likely be.

AntiWailer:


Did u read at all ?

They want to leave it in dispute pending the time the hearing on the case is done. (THIS IS NOT VICTORY !)

The case was thrown out at appeal court same yesterday already.

Your terms on Main Stream etc already shows Ur source of info

Come off it bro, so u won't av hypertension !

You still don't get the MAGNITUDE of the implication of the Pennsylvania State Legislature ruling. A whole State's House of Representatives have voted that they now see reason and agree there was IRREGULARITIES in the voting that happened in their State and that certification should be withdrawn, which means Biden has LOST Pennsylvania already

This OP should just start a comedy show e go blow like

Openbusiness:
You still don't get the MAGNITUDE of the implication of the Pennsylvania State Legislature ruling. A whole State's House of Representatives have voted that they now see reason and agree there was IRREGULARITIES in the voting that happened in their State and that certification should be withdrawn, which means Biden has LOST Pennsylvania already

Go and read the link u sent again.



And when u are done read this too :


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal-appeals-court-rejects-trump-request-for-emergency-injunction-to-overturn-certification-of-pennsylvanias-election-results/2020/11/27/556540ba-30d7-11eb-bae0-50bb17126614_story.html


Also for your mind, any state with irregularities if any automatically goes to Trump ? Only a Trumpster can reason that way o.

Openbusiness:
You don't still understand. That a case is being thrown out by the Lower Courts IS NOT a disadvantage to Trump. It is actually an advantage. Because the faster they thrown it out, the more they can APPEAL and the appeals keep pushing the case up and up till it gets to SCOTUS. Trump doesn't need to present full evidence now, that will be too stupid. As of now, they even have whistleblower Democrats ready to testify to voter fraud and how they participated and carried out voter fraud. But if these things are revealed now, it puts many witnesses lives at risk, because the Dems will go for assassination or threaten them to silence through the back door behind the scenes. And then it will slow down the case from reaching the SCOTUS fast enough. The mother of all litigation and evidence will be presented before the SCOTUS, not the lower Circuit Courts controlled by Dems. Trump is teaching you Politics 101 Roulette, sit back and learn

U are 100% correct. That was team Trump legal strategy all along. Don't present evidence of fraud in the lower court until it reaches the supreme Court, and they are on the way to it.

Mynd44:

You dont introduce new evidence in the supreme court. You argue your case and tell them you feel the lower courts got it wrong.

You're wrong! What you said is applicable for Appeal Courts, not the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court interprets the CONSTITUTION and the duty of the Supreme Court is to protect the Constitution. If Trump's team can prove that the voter fraud irregularities have violated the Constitution, hence Biden should not be President, they will uphold the CONSTITUTION and Trump will eventually win.

An appeal is not a retrial or a new trial of the case. The appeals courts do not usually consider new witnesses or new evidence. Appeals in either civil or criminal cases are usually based on arguments that there were errors in the trial’s procedure or errors in the judge's interpretation of the law.

AntiWailer:




Go and read the link u sent again.



And when u are done read this too :


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal-appeals-court-rejects-trump-request-for-emergency-injunction-to-overturn-certification-of-pennsylvanias-election-results/2020/11/27/556540ba-30d7-11eb-bae0-50bb17126614_story.html


Also for your mind, any state with irregularities if any automatically goes to Trump ? Only a Trumpster can reason that way o.

You're just twisting things to suit your narrative, but no facts to back it up. Show me where I wrote in my write up that the CONTESTED States with irregularities will be given to Trump. If the irregularities are proven to be widespread, then it means the results are INVALID. In this case, you will have Faithless Electors. In this Case, if eventually, there are enough Faithless Electors and Biden doesn't get to to 270 votes, then the Elections will be declared indecisive. For an indecisive election, the winner will be decided by the State Legislature of Each State. Republicans have 29 vs Democrats have 21. TRUMP WINS!

Openbusiness:
You're wrong! What you said is applicable for Appeal Courts, not the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court interprets the CONSTITUTION and the duty of the Supreme Court is to protect the Constitution. If Trump's team can prove that the voter fraud irregularities have violated the Constitution, hence Biden should not be President, they will uphold the CONSTITUTION and Trump will eventually win.

The supreme court also listens to appeals. And every court interprets the constitution

dermmy:
This OP should just start a comedy show e go blow like

That is if it were funny, but I don't think it is

I mean the open bare-assed brazenness of it is simply mind boggling.

No attempt is made to hide anymore. All Trump and cohorts seek is to subvert the will of the people. End.

Forget all the nonsense OP has posted

Openbusiness:
You're just twisting things to suit your narrative, but no facts to back it up. Show me where I wrote in my write up that the CONTESTED States with irregularities will be given to Trump. If the irregularities are proven to be widespread, then it means the results are INVALID. In this case, you will have Faithless Electors. In this Case, if eventually, there are enough Faithless Electors and Biden doesn't get to to 270 votes, then the Elections will be declared indecisive. For an indecisive election, the winner will be decided by the State Legislature of Each State. Republicans have 29 vs Democrats have 21. TRUMP WINS!

Will quote u after inaugurations

pennsylvania is 20 electoral hotels. Remove that and Biden still wins. Not to mention, the votes wont be upturned in the state sef

bjtinz:


That is if it were funny, but I don't think it is

I mean the open bare-assed brazenness of it is simply mind boggling.

No attempt is made to hide anymore. All Trump and cohorts seek is to subvert the will of the people. End.

Forget all the nonsense OP has posted

This to me is the problem. They want a coup simple

Openbusiness:
You're just twisting things to suit your narrative, but no facts to back it up. Show me where I wrote in my write up that the CONTESTED States with irregularities will be given to Trump. If the irregularities are proven to be widespread, then it means the results are INVALID. In this case, you will have Faithless Electors. In this Case, if eventually, there are enough Faithless Electors and Biden doesn't get to to 270 votes, then the Elections will be declared indecisive. For an indecisive election, the winner will be decided by the State Legislature of Each State. Republicans have 29 vs Democrats have 21. TRUMP WINS!

Go and sell your water dispenser in peace. And stop pasting stuff from right wing blogs.

Trump is aware that he lost, power is just too sweet to leave that’s why African leaders usually turn dictators.

Openbusiness:
You don't still understand. That a case is being thrown out by the Lower Courts IS NOT a disadvantage to Trump. It is actually an advantage. Because the faster they thrown it out, the more they can APPEAL and the appeals keep pushing the case up and up till it gets to SCOTUS. Trump doesn't need to present full evidence now, that will be too stupid. As of now, they even have whistleblower Democrats ready to testify to voter fraud and how they participated and carried out voter fraud. But if these things are revealed now, it puts many witnesses lives at risk, because the Dems will go for assassination or threaten them to silence through the back door behind the scenes. And then it will slow down the case from reaching the SCOTUS fast enough. The mother of all litigation and evidence will be presented before the SCOTUS, not the lower Circuit Courts controlled by Dems. Trump is teaching you Politics 101 Roulette, sit back and learn

You don't seem to know how the court system over there works. If a case is dismissed at a lower court and the loser's appeal is granted, then they get to argue the same case at a higher court, BUT WITHOUT NEW EVIDENCE.

They cannot present evidence at a higher court that was not presented at the lower courts.

Now that you understand that, you should know that the cases that were laughed out of the lower courts will also be laughed out of the Scotus.

Team Trump cannot prove fraud; they aren't even alleging fraud in court.

Don't let that Osogbo weed you're smoking be your downfall.

N2B2:


You don't seem to know how the court system over there works. If a case is dismissed at a lower court and the loser's appeal is granted, then they get to argue the same case at a higher court, BUT WITHOUT NEW EVIDENCE.

They cannot present evidence at a higher court that was not presented at the lower courts.

Now that you understand that, you should know that the cases that were laughed out of the lower courts will also be laughed out of the Scotus.

Team Trump cannot prove fraud; they aren't even alleging fraud in court.

Don't let that Osogbo weed you're smoking be your downfall.

The Osogbo weed you sold to me fah? Let me tell you how it works, an Appeal Court is not for retrial, so they don't usually take new evidence. The Appeal Court just checks the technicality of the ruling of the Lower Courts and if they reason no errors were made on technical grounds they will uphold but if they reason there were technicality errors, then they nullify the previous verdict of the Lower Court. But the Supreme Court can do a retrial.

Openbusiness:
The Osogbo weed you sold to me fah? Let me tell you how it works, an Appeal Court is not for retrial, so they don't usually take new evidence. The Appeal Court just checks the technicality of the ruling of the Lower Courts and if they reason no errors were made on technical grounds they will uphold but if they reason there were technicality errors, then they nullify the previous verdict of the Lower Court. But the Supreme Court can do a retrial.

I love you bro(No homo cuz I too like toto). Instead of these pro-dems on this thread to argue with facts, they are busy yanning thrash simply because they don't understand how the American judicial system works.
The supreme Court of the united states of America can order for the retrial of a case where new evidence can be introduced if any.
The just concluded 2020 American election is the worst election in history with evidence of massive voter fraud and yet they want Trump to concede.
Well, the Dems really chose the wrong person to f$&k with cuz Trump ain't no chicken.

kingbee90:


I love you bro(No homo cuz I too like toto). Instead of these pro-dems on this thread to argue with facts, they are busy yanning thrash simply because they don't understand how the American judicial system works.
The supreme Court of the united states of America can order for the retrial of a case where new evidence can be introduced if any.
The just concluded 2020 American election is the worst election in history with evidence of massive voter fraud and yet they want Trump to concede.
Well, the Dems really chose the wrong person to f$&k with cuz Trump ain't to chicken.

With all the 24/7 media attacks, a typical Republican would have folded. That was how they subdued Bush with the media attacks. But unfortunately for them, Trump is not your regular Republican, his attitude is that of a businessman not a politician. They thought they could rig him out and he would concede as per let's not expose America's corruption to the world, let's just sweep it under the carpet and continue. Now they are so AFRAID, because when the voter fraud system the Dems have been exploiting is totally exposed, they are finished.

Openbusiness:
Yes, I get you clear. Your example i think is more of like the case of legalizing murder. If murder is legalized then it is legal to kill anyone without moral justification but killing would still be an immoral thing to do, whether it is legal or not. But in this case, it is totally different. There was VOTER FRAUD!

But your lawyers, none of them. Including rudy, is claiming fraud in court, why?

Openbusiness:
It's getting thrown out mainly by lower Circuit Courts who are mostly Judges appointed by Obama under the Obama admin, that is to say, Judges that lean LEFT and favor BLUE.

The PA Supreme Court that tossed out there last case, are 3 Republican judges

The particular one that wrote the breifing to toss it out, was appointed by Trump, the remaining two was appointed by Bush

So your claims lack merit sir.

Openbusiness:
You don't still understand. That a case is being thrown out by the Lower Courts IS NOT a disadvantage to Trump. It is actually an advantage. Because the faster they thrown it out, the more they can APPEAL and the appeals keep pushing the case up and up till it gets to SCOTUS. Trump doesn't need to present full evidence now, that will be too stupid. As of now, they even have whistleblower Democrats ready to testify to voter fraud and how they participated and carried out voter fraud. But if these things are revealed now, it puts many witnesses lives at risk, because the Dems will go for assassination or threaten them to silence through the back door behind the scenes. And then it will slow down the case from reaching the SCOTUS fast enough. The mother of all litigation and evidence will be presented before the SCOTUS, not the lower Circuit Courts controlled by Dems. Trump is teaching you Politics 101 Roulette, sit back and learn

Lmao, you know nothing about the rule of law at all. You don't claim fraud in lower court, or provide evidence in lower court because you want to get to Supreme court, you think when you reach there new evidence would be allowed? Or you think you are allowed to change your litigation?

If its so easy, everybody would go to supreme court na.


Google the word appellate court, they dont allow new witnesses and evidence

The SCOTUS is an appellate court.

Openbusiness:
You still don't get the MAGNITUDE of the implication of the Pennsylvania State Legislature ruling. A whole State's House of Representatives have voted that they now see reason and agree there was IRREGULARITIES in the voting that happened in their State and that certification should be withdrawn, which means Biden has LOST Pennsylvania already

Stop lying its just 28 house of reps and 8 senators. Who are all republicans

Its not even up to 1/3 or the PA congress, by tomorrow most of them would be out of there jobs.

Stop the misinformation, and stop lying.

Openbusiness:
You're wrong! What you said is applicable for Appeal Courts, not the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court interprets the CONSTITUTION and the duty of the Supreme Court is to protect the Constitution. If Trump's team can prove that the voter fraud irregularities have violated the Constitution, hence Biden should not be President, they will uphold the CONSTITUTION and Trump will eventually win.

Supreme Court is not a trial court, it's an appellate court you this man.

Timiofak:


Supreme Court is not a trial court, it's an appellate court you this man.

It is primarily an Appellate Court, BUT it can also conduct a trial, unlike Court of Appeals that are limited to appeals from Lower Courts only.

The number of original jurisdiction cases heard by the court is small; generally only one or two such cases are heard per term. Because the nine-member Supreme Court is not well-suited to conducting pretrial proceedings or trials, original jurisdiction cases accepted by the Court are typically referred to a well-qualified lawyer or lower-court judge to serve as special master, conduct the proceedings, and report recommendations to the Court. The Court then considers whether to accept the special master's report or whether to sustain any exceptions filed to the report.

Although jury trials are in theory possible in the Court's original jurisdiction cases

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procedures_of_the_Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States

Openbusiness:
It is primarily an Appellate Court, BUT it can also conduct a trial, unlike Court of Appeals that are limited to appeals from Lower Courts only.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procedures_of_the_Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States

That's if they are bringing a new case, they are not. Or are they?

And with the way thing is going the Supreme Court my decide not to take the case at all, agreed?

Timiofak:


That's if they are bringing a new case, they are not. Or are they?

And with the way thing is going the Supreme Court my decide not to take the case at all, agreed?

Yes agreed, with the way time is so short, the case might never get to the Supreme Court on time before the Electoral College starts voting. And that's why if you read my original post very well, you will see that I highlighted this reality there. And which is why, because the Supreme Court might end up not even being in the picture at all, this thread is not based on Trump winning via the Supreme Court; BUT based on another viable alternative to Trump winning his 2nd Term that will surely play out.

Supreme Court judgements are not run of the mill judgements. They would only rule on fundamental legal system procedural issues in the light of the constitution

You have to be a simpleton to think the SCOTUS will disenfranchise millions of voters by upturning what they voted for.

Openbusiness:
Yes agreed, with the way time is so short, the case might never get to the Supreme Court on time before the Electoral College starts voting. And that's why if you read my original post very well, you will see that I highlighted this reality there. And which is why, because the Supreme Court might end up not even being in the picture at all, this thread is not based on Trump winning via the Supreme Court; BUT based on another viable alternative to Trump winning his 2nd Term that will surely play out.

Even the idea of electors from dome states voting their conscience against the wish of voters, that's amateurishness in the extreme.
If you think this happens and you don't extend the thinking to the dissolution of the entire US but you think all it does is return Trump to the White House then Nigerian crookedness has joined the amateurishness

Jimi24:


Even the idea of electors from dome states voting their conscience against the wish of voters, that's amateurishness in the extreme.
If you think this happens and you don't extend the thinking to the dissolution of the entire US but you think all it does is return Trump to the White House then Nigerian crookedness has joined the amateurishness

Where is the crookedness There's no similarities between their system of choosing a Presidential election winner and our system. They have Electoral College, we don't. And speaking of Electoral College, it is 100% LEGAL for an Elector to be a "Faithless Elector". There is no crookedness or amateurish behavior involved, especially when you have credible allegations and litigations of voter fraud involved. The Electors are American citizens too na, and they can see what is happening by themselves. So if they choose to be Faithless Electors, then it is justified. There's no illegality about it.

Openbusiness:
Yes agreed, with the way time is so short, the case might never get to the Supreme Court on time before the Electoral College starts voting. And that's why if you read my original post very well, you will see that I highlighted this reality there. And which is why, because the Supreme Court might end up not even being in the picture at all, this thread is not based on Trump winning via the Supreme Court; BUT based on another viable alternative to Trump winning his 2nd Term that will surely play out.

You wrote everything and kept surely

nothing is surely playing out, nothing at all

all of this is grift. And if Trump goes to the Supreme Court, with his pa loss, and they hear him out, and they agree to toss out mail in ballots in Pa, which is highly unlikely, that is basically impossible to toss half of the votes in a state

he still doesn't have 270 votes to land him the EC.

So I repeat nothing is surely happening.