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The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Edeyoung: 6:32pm On Nov 28, 2020 |
I hope i dont get banned by yoruba mods for this The title oba entered the yoruba lexicon through benin ventures into Eastern yoruba during its expansion, and soon diffused into all yorubas There is a parable in owo, that says, just as the oba n' idu commands respect on earth olodumare commands respect in heaven Despite interaction with eastern Yoruba they made a sizable contact with vast yoruba tribe too Benins supplied the atilaries used in the yoruba civil war of late 1800 If we are to mention benin influence on vast yoruba land it will too numerous to mention The yorubas always have the claim oromiyan came to establish the obaship stool on benin but when taken a deeper look into this history shows that it was a political staged myth of late 1800 after the benin invasion by the British, oba eweka11 sought monarchial help from the then ooni to help strengthening the political power of the edo people who was emerging from a devastating war that burnt down the city capital You know the rest The benin monarch accepted to be one of oduduwa son, in the hierarchy it was ooni first and oba of benin second, at these time alafin was still having superiority battle against the ooni, later when awolowo elevated the stool, the alafin subcumed and decided to stay at second displacing the oba to third position So their argument on the ownership of the word oba has been defeated It was mere politcs even the yoruba unification was not historical and ife was never thier ancestral town ife was a religious town to the yorubas The title oba has bern in the yoruba lexicon as far As 16century when benin expanded into their territory that would be 6centuries now Despite the long age it has been in Yoruba lexicon it remains foreign to them Imagine benin supplying yoruba warriors fighting atilaries, controlling their lands, giving them kings, controlling their market, just imagine how the title oba would sound to them When the oba of benin was being taken to calabar by the British they had to cover his face to avoid uprise from both benin areas and non edo territorie Note Not until 1930 the ooni of ife used the word oba officially to adress is title letting go of the British sir in replacement of oba He made a mistake of not foreseeing the end of the false political unification of benin people under yoruba umbrella he only saw the advantage of the name it would bring to his stool He never proclaimed other yoruba monarchs to follow suit but automatically the other yoruba bought into adding oba to thier title Note Ogie is a title for duke only the oba of benin bears the title oba of benin The question every tribe should ask yoruba is why do they adopt the word oba as a generic term for kingship when already is known to adress a popular monarch I guess the answer can also be found in my writeup Picture of one of the ooni holding an edo ceremonial sword wanting to mimic the benin stool, but i guess he later drooped it 1 Like
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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 6:36pm On Nov 28, 2020 |
Tao11 and macof wont liks this, they willl bring their etymology to discredit this No matter what they form remember one thing the people forming it are not even from ife to begin with Afam4eva |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 6:43pm On Nov 28, 2020 |
H 1 Like |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Ayoemrys(m): 7:05pm On Nov 28, 2020 |
Trash, come back carry your trash in shame when you realize what OBA really mean in Yoruba language, 1 Like |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Nobody: 7:08pm On Nov 28, 2020 |
Edeyoung: Source? |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Edeyoung: 7:10pm On Nov 28, 2020 |
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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by kalufelix(m): 7:35pm On Nov 28, 2020 |
For-my-primary-school-social-studies-eh...wetin-dem-teach-me-na-oba-of-Benin-ooni-of-ife-alaafin-of-oyo-emir-of-kano-sultan-of-sokoto... |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 8:15pm On Nov 28, 2020 |
Ayoemrys: I got inspired by the gods to write this Anyway i hope you aint saying the gods are crazy Make thunder nor go use you learn |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Ayoemrys(m): 9:25pm On Nov 28, 2020 |
gregyboy:still trash |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by JohnSin97: 11:41pm On Nov 28, 2020 |
Another BS thread, from a loser in life |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 9:34am On Nov 29, 2020 |
BBQ |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by LeoThaGreat(m): 10:00pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
Before Oduduwa came to Ilè Ifè from Oke-Ogun, there were 13 autonomous villages in Ifè all headed by Obas, e.g. Obatala, Obalufon, etc. The first Oba of Bini was Oranyan, a descendant of Oo'dua, before Oranmiyan, Bini was governed by the Ogiso. The above logically proves that the titling of the position of an Oba in Yorubaland predates that of Bini The position 'Oba' is a pure Yòrùbá word. It's direct translation should be Governor or Controller/Administrator. O = The one/person that does something (a continuous tense) Ba = Perch or Control I just have to drop this comment before history gets distorted as usual. The full position is called Oba T'ó Ba L'órí Ohun Gbogbo = The Controller that governs all things. Then the position has titles. E.g The Controller of Oyo is referred to as Alaafin (Alaafin l'oruko oba ilu Oyo). Alaafin = Title Oba = Position Bye y'all! 3 Likes |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 11:17pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
LeoThaGreat: Can you prove benin-ife relationships with archaeological facts or European written record Stop using foolish oral accounts for me You dummy 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by OmoOlofin: 6:18pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Ideadoctor(m): 7:55pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Stop being a liar,your kings are called ogisos, Yorubas introduced the oba system to you,and that is evident in your overall monarchial system |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Edeyoung: 8:44pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
Ideadoctor: Ogiso means sky kings are you telling me you believe the myth sky kings came to rule on earth If you dont you are left with one option with the title oba That means ogiso was a myth and never existed The title oba has been the title for benin monarchy, oba means king in benin |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Edeyoung: 8:45pm On Dec 07, 2020 |
OmoOlofin: I proved this wrong already why are you still spamming people are still going to read my comments TAO11 is unable to prove benin ife connection |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Ideadoctor(m): 7:19am On Dec 08, 2020 |
If you believe that the indigenous word for king in Edo is oba then all Edo are Yoruba, because Yoruba started obaship,in fact Edeyoung you are not honest in treating these topic a lot of Edo historians mentioned the ogisos not as myth but as history, and they also mentioned that oranmiyan displaced the ogisos and started the oba dynasty, but here you are because you hate Yoruba's denying that fact even though it is obvious |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Edeyoung: 11:57am On Dec 08, 2020 |
Ideadoctor: Edo historian says oduduwa was from benin Yoruba said its a lie But truth is that all the Oduduwa whatsoever is a myth that never existed Ogiso are sky kings and they never existed too In an old benin account recorded by Europeans ogiso ruled when the earth was yet unformed Bro benin-ife never had connections unless you can prove it to me Or you just go back to were you are coming from Oba is the original title of the benin monarchy benins loaned it to yorubas If you disagree with disagree read this screenshot Or you can try to bring archeological findings or writing records were you can prove benin had contact with ife in the past You make me sick, boy benin historian agrees and so, are they not humans like you and i can they not lie to play the supremacy battle they love Playing Just go.....
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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Ideadoctor(m): 3:43pm On Dec 08, 2020 |
Edeyoung: |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Ideadoctor(m): 3:45pm On Dec 08, 2020 |
give me Edo etymology of oba,if you claim that oba is indigenous to Edo, then I would give the Yoruba etymology |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 3:51pm On Dec 08, 2020 |
Ideadoctor: Would you get out from here, You dont even know your history you say every clan from yoruba migrated from ife which your brother prove you a lier Yet same person is looking for the etymology of the world oba Visit my profile you will find it there.....
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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Ideadoctor(m): 6:41pm On Dec 08, 2020 |
gregyboy: |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by Ideadoctor(m): 6:42pm On Dec 08, 2020 |
small boy stop ranting like Market women give me the etymology,you too like to dey talk 3 Likes |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by TAO11(f): 11:45pm On Dec 12, 2020 |
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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 12:19am On Dec 13, 2020 |
TAO11: You and your cohort are yet to prove benin myth existence yet you already hijacking the word oba as yoruba word Indeed there was no connection between bini and ife all those myth of oduduwa was made to unite edo under the yoruba political umbrella in the early 1900 tracing all yorubas to oduduwa
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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 12:21am On Dec 13, 2020 |
Ideadoctor: Is that what you need, what if i tell you the etymology means king Would that solve the puzzle Stop asking stupud questions ask meaningful ones Like did benin-ife exist in the first place |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by DenreleDave(m): 2:38am On Dec 13, 2020 |
Jesus, Coman see how Tao11 will make gregyboy shed tears again.... Chai, gregyboy, premium tears ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by TAO11(f): 2:42am On Dec 13, 2020 |
DenreleDave:Lol. That would actually amount to flogging a dead horse. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by DenreleDave(m): 6:13am On Dec 13, 2020 |
Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by gregyboy(m): 8:26am On Dec 13, 2020 |
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Re: The Title OBA Is Indigenous To Benins by DenreleDave(m): 8:33am On Dec 13, 2020 |
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