Etinosa1234:


But u know u are lieing...

Kings wealth in Igbo means eze akunuba

King of kings means eze ndi eze

So how did u guys come up with the word obaze...

Oba doesn't mean anything in ur language...

Tell me what it means

How am I lying?

Wonderful. What I gave you is the literally the meaning of the surname. It is answered so we'll in Anambra state.

In Igboland...Oba means someone wealthy, or someone of great wealth.

There are people answering name EzeOba in Igboland, is it also Bini?

You don't just come and say a word doesn't have any meaning because if he doesn't there is no need for people to be answering that..

Juliusmalema:



Well it means... more like Kings Wealth,or should I say king of kings..

You the most funny guy right now

If the word oba means king, then what else are you arguing for

The way you sounded like the word oba
Was contrary to the word king


You are just trolling nothing more

Etinosa1234:


U need to learn how to argue with facts... U argue like someone who's abt to cry...

Pls what's the meaning of oba in Igbo...

Don't tell me it was a corrupted word...

If u say so... U are lieing

I have given you the meaning of oba. So I don't understand what else you want me to say.

I gave you the meaning according to the way it is used.

Etinosa1234:

But u know u are lieing...
Kings wealth in Igbo means eze akunuba
King of kings means eze ndi eze
So how did u guys come up with the word obaze...
Oba doesn't mean anything in ur language...
Tell me what it means

Let me quickly correct that @strike.
It is Aku na Uba Eze not Eze Aku na uba

gregyboy:


You the most funny guy right now
If the word oba means king, then what else are you arguing for
The way you sounded like the word oba Was contrary to the word king

You are just trolling nothing more

Lol
You think this is Bini and Yoruba argument.
For you to see king there...it is ascribed to the word Eze and not Oba.

learn to read and understand and also follow up your own argument.
Oba-Eze @ bolded is the context king was used.

Etinosa1234:


For someone to spend all her resources even travel abroad just to try to bring down another person history, it tells a lot...

I don't think she expended this kind of energy on Yoruba- Igbo, Yoruba -Nupe, Yoruba -Fulani... The only way she'll do so is if they had contact with Benin

Most Benin people and foreigners already know how great Benin kingdom was ...
The foreigners who saw our works marvelled,

Al-Jazeera compared our Benin to London as at then and said it was better than london , BBC did reports on our culture, the first foreigners (Ruy de Sequeira)known in Southern Nigeria came to Benin in 1472 during Ewuare, The Dutch came and were impressed

R.E. Bradbury researched our culture, Bondarenko spends time on our culture

We even had an embassy in Lisbon as at 15th century... It's only normal to have people jealous abt it. People are only jealous abt what they don't have.. so they'll either find away to trash it or associate with it...

Engaging with her was good tho... It made me know more abt my culture ... Prior to that , all I knew was the invasion and our works being stolen...
After ,then I found out that Benin had influence over present day Edo-delta states up to parts of Ondo, Lagos, Anambra, Kogi... It's normal to have people dedicate their entire life to trash it... Imagine, a whole minority tribe with such great history... Its enough to create jealousy Na..

The funny part is that due to the fact that she can access more info abt our culture due to where she stay, she will only tell us abt the part of our culture that favors her or deny vehemently abt the part that exalts Benin culture..... If we should get hold of the books she quotes at times, we'll see many things that praise the Benin culture

Having seen how great my culture is, I'm planning to visit the library in my area so that I can learn more abt my history...

Benin is so broad that it isn't covered by one historian......

Oba gha t'okpere

Dude I have been educating her predecessors since 2011. With PhysicsQED who stopped coming on Nairaland many years ago. Manuscripts on Benin history were written in my presence as a kid. So nothing they can offer that I have not seen dissected before.

Our people are in Bayelsa. Yenagoa indigenes are Edo people. Degema and many Rivers people are Edo. The Amayanabor clearly said it when Oba Ewuare II Rivers. The video is here on Nairaland.

Edoid languages are 22. A 23rd one is still debated.
Igede people of Benue State are Edo people. They even left Benin fairly late, in 1515.

Etinosa1234:


For someone to spend all her resources even travel abroad just to try to bring down another person history, it tells a lot...

I don't think she expended this kind of energy on Yoruba- Igbo, Yoruba -Nupe, Yoruba -Fulani... The only way she'll do so is if they had contact with Benin

Most Benin people and foreigners already know how great Benin kingdom was ...
The foreigners who saw our works marvelled,

Al-Jazeera compared our Benin to London as at then and said it was better than london , BBC did reports on our culture, the first foreigners (Ruy de Sequeira)known in Southern Nigeria came to Benin in 1472 during Ewuare, The Dutch came and were impressed

R.E. Bradbury researched our culture, Bondarenko spends time on our culture

We even had an embassy in Lisbon as at 15th century... It's only normal to have people jealous abt it. People are only jealous abt what they don't have.. so they'll either find away to trash it or associate with it...

Engaging with her was good tho... It made me know more abt my culture ... Prior to that , all I knew was the invasion and our works being stolen...
After ,then I found out that Benin had influence over present day Edo-delta states up to parts of Ondo, Lagos, Anambra, Kogi... It's normal to have people dedicate their entire life to trash it... Imagine, a whole minority tribe with such great history... Its enough to create jealousy Na..

The funny part is that due to the fact that she can access more info abt our culture due to where she stay, she will only tell us abt the part of our culture that favors her or deny vehemently abt the part that exalts Benin culture..... If we should get hold of the books she quotes at times, we'll see many things that praise the Benin culture

Having seen how great my culture is, I'm planning to visit the library in my area so that I can learn more abt my history...

Benin is so broad that it isn't covered by one historian......

Oba gha t'okpere

That person whom you are talking about is a fraud. The statements of that person are mostly lies and illogical reasonings.
The books being quoted are mostly revisionist books and disregard the book if the person doesn't provide access to the book.
The fact you are saying you guys didn't know much about your own culture is shameful. What do you people do in Nigeria ?

TAO11:
BTW, the above videos have been debunked at the following link:

https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/25#96567759

+ The present Benin palace was built much recently — hence it used to be a ragtag shrine.

Should one really expect much from a heartbroken Bini bald head ??

Nope! Peddling lies is what Binis do best, and that is apparent from all of their posts — which unfortunately have all been debunked on this thread.

I’m super glad that everyone can now see through their falsehood and desperation.

In summary: The word “Oba” has its root in the Yoruba language as has been demonstrated from a Bini dictionary.

[s]No other Edoid people use the term for their monarchs, [b]despite the Binis expedition in their territory. [/s]

The reason is simple: Of all Edoid groups, only the Binis have dynastic succession from the Yorubas.

QED!

With all your pointless talks only shows you're without reasoning otherwise you will know so many Ẹdoid tribes have Ọba attached to some names

eg Esans bear the name Obaze, obano

The reigning king Oba Chukumela Nnam Obi II of Ogbaland has Oba attached to his name/title so what trash are you spilling

Etinosa1234
Davidnazee
Prolog
Ghostwon
AreaFada2
Samuk
Davidnazee
gregyboy

Quite frankly I am very disappointed.
The education in Nigeria is a real joke.
To be frank, you guys can't compete with europeans.
I am disappointed.

Nigerian universities should no longer be called universities.

I heard the average IQ in Nigeria is 70. I thought the person who made the report was a racist.

The only reason you still have yoruba story peddlars trying to steal Benin history is because the average Nigerian IQ is so low ...

Juliusmalema:



How am I lying?

Wonderful. What I gave you is the literally the meaning of the surname. It is answered so we'll in Anambra state.

In Igboland...Oba means someone wealthy, or someone of great wealth.

There are people answering name EzeOba in Igboland, is it also Bini?

You don't just come and say a word doesn't have any meaning because if he doesn't there is no need for people to be answering that..

Stop lieing .. show me one Igbo translator that associates Oba with wealth... Then I'll believe u

davidmarker:

That person whom you are talking about is a fraud. The statements of that person are mostly lies and illogical reasonings.
The books being quoted are mostly revisionist books and disregard the book if the person doesn't provide access to the book.
The fact you are saying you guys didn't know much about your own culture is shameful. What do you people do in Nigeria ?

Oga... ASUU is on strike... Our libraries are not complete...
Google books doesn't work in Nigeria.....

Juliusmalema:


Let me quickly correct that @strike.

It is Aku na Uba Eze not Eze Aku na uba

Since its aku Na uba eze
So.how did u guys arrive at Oba eze...? Don't tell me it's a corrupted word cos u will have to prove it

FOWL Yansh has been exposed to all Nigerians.

Lies may run fast, but truth will finally catch up someday.

That day eventually came to pass.

cc: Juliusmalema

valirex:


With all your pointless talks only shows you're without reasoning otherwise you will know so many Ẹdoid tribes have Ọba attached to some names

eg Esans bear the name Obaze, obano

The reigning king Oba Chukumela Nnam Obi II of Ogbaland has Oba attached to his name/title so what trash are you spilling

Etinosa1234
Davidnazee
Prolog
Ghostwon
AreaFada2
Samuk
Davidnazee
gregyboy

Lol

I told one of your people to make efforts and reach out to the people of ogba and integrate back to Bini


His grand father reigned as Obi, his father reigned as same EzeOgba and now his son reigns as Oba.


Lol

I sincerely think I am way too smart to continue conversing on this forum.

Anyways I have more important things to do, those who want to be fooled by Yoruba story tellers, Yoruba revisionists, Yoruba liars... Feel free to indulge yourselves.

If you can't make the effort to get smarter and acquire knowledge in a rational way, then face the consequences of your intellectual lazyness.

Etinosa1234:


Stop lieing .. show me one Igbo translator that associates Oba with wealth... Then I'll believe u

The problem most of you have is that you go about using Igbo translator centered on central Igbo.


You a Bini wants to argue with someone moving R. Niger and you are using a centrality instead of allowing the person to give you the literal meaning of word as used in the environment.

You are only agitated becomes you couldn't see anything to pin to correlate your wild claims.

But be it as it may. I gave you the meaning of the word rightly as it is used.

Lack of education and low IQ has made it such that a small irrelevant village called Ife is now being compared with Benin city, the capital of an empire...

An emperor, the Oba of Benin is now being compared to a shrine keeper: the ooni of Ife...

I am done.

Etinosa1234:


Since its aku Na uba eze
So.how did u guys arrive at Oba eze...? Don't tell me it's a corrupted word cos u will have to prove it

I gave you the way an igbo man will put kings wealth in igbo to make meaning.

Is it all English words that are transcribed as it is in Bini...Is it?

[sup][/sup]

Juliusmalema:



The problem most of you have is that you go about using Igbo translator centered on central Igbo.


You a Bini wants to argue with someone moving R. Niger and you are using a centrality instead of allowing the person to give you the literal meaning of word as used in the environment.

You are only agitated becomes you couldn't see anything to pin to correlate your wild claims.

But be it as it may. I gave you the meaning of the word rightly a d even have surname Chukwuebuka as it is used.

Give the meaning of oba in Igbo land is all I ask u ...

Well according to a dictionary by Kay Williamson [url=https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00fwp/igbo/IGBO%2520Dictionary.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjZzfSRoqrtAhUN8hoKHZn1BgsQFjADegQIERAB&usg=AOvVaw15kkRT9dWFGfANfhVcApTv]SEE LINK HERE[/url] made in 1972... Clearly referenced oba in ur dictionary as the Oba of Benin

Funnily enough, the Oba is not a single word but rather refered to as n'oba

Other definition of Oba are barn,calabash and not the wealth u are referring to...

Now let's join the Oba and ze together and u might get
Barn collapse
Barn sneeze...

I wonder who'd give their children such Funny names
.. oops Juliusmalema can

Juliusmalema:



I gave you the way an igbo man will put kings wealth in igbo to make meaning.

Is it all English words that are transcribed as it is in Bini...Is it?

No such words like that... Refer me to one Igbo translator that describes wealth as oba

Etinosa1234:
[sup][/sup]

Give the meaning of oba in Igbo land is all I ask u ...

Well according to a dictionary by Kay Williamson [url=https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.columbia.edu/itc/mealac/pritchett/00fwp/igbo/IGBO%2520Dictionary.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjZzfSRoqrtAhUN8hoKHZn1BgsQFjADegQIERAB&usg=AOvVaw15kkRT9dWFGfANfhVcApTv]SEE LINK HERE[/url] made in 1972... Clearly referenced oba in ur dictionary as the Oba of Benin

Other definition of Oba are barn,calabash and not the wealth u are referring to...

Now let's join the Oba and ze together and u might get
Barn collapse
Barn sneeze...

I wonder who'd give their children such Funny names
.. oops Juliusmalema can

At this point you are losing it by using such igbk dictionaries.

Let me give you an assignment go and research more about Anambra names infacts surnames same as delta area of Igbo and use your dictionary in comparing names you are digging up

You will realize that your dictionary can't give you anything.

You are making grave mistake in using such things to check names.

I would have given you a hint on peculiarity of names and how to arrive at such but since you have a set to target to try and lump it as maybe related to Bini then you are on a wild chase.

Discard that thing you are using, not near to the argument

Etinosa1234:


No such words like that... Refer me to one Igbo translator that describes wealth as oba

You are now the one telling us the meaning of words over here

Wonderful, which means you have alot to learn

Maybe this Igbo surname Obanya is also Bini?


Lol, you really have alot to know but no need because we share no same history with you guys.

valirex:


With all your pointless talks only shows you're without reasoning otherwise you will know so many Ẹdoid tribes have Ọba attached to some names

eg Esans bear the name Obaze, obano

The reigning king Oba Chukumela Nnam Obi II of Ogbaland has Oba attached to his name/title so what trash are you spilling

Etinosa1234
Davidnazee
Prolog
Ghostwon
AreaFada2
Samuk
Davidnazee
gregyboy

The question is... .what is the meaning of Oba in Edo language?

Juliusmalema:


You are now the one telling us the meaning of words over here

Wonderful, which means you have alot to learn

Maybe this Igbo surname Obanya is also Bini?


Lol, you really have alot to know but no need because we share no same history with you guys.

Juliusmalema:



At this point you are losing it by using such igbk dictionaries.

Let me give you an assignment go and research more about Anambra names infacts surnames same as delta area of Igbo and use your dictionary in comparing names you are digging up

You will realize that your dictionary can't give you anything.

You are making grave mistake in using such things to check names.

I would have given you a hint on peculiarity of names and how to arrive at such but since you have a set to target to try and lump it as maybe related to Bini then you are on a wild chase.

Discard that thing you are using, not near to the argument

U are dodging simple thing,..

I can also tell u that Chukwu means face front but since there is no back up from Edo translation, it can be adjudged to be false

Show me one Igbo translation that says oba is Wealth...

Etinosa1234:


U are dodging simple thing,..

I can also tell u that Chukwu means face front but since there is no back up from Edo translation, it can be adjudged to be false

Show me one Igbo translation that says oba is Wealth...

Why should I be interested in what chukwu means in Bini?

It might mean anything there but as for me I know it means God in igbo...Chi-ukwu shortened as Chukwu...Olulo Udaume.

So Same can be seen in Obaze, EzeOba, Obanya et al.

For names to exist and I gave you the meaning of the words as it is closed the case.

That thing you are looking for is not here. It can only be found in Bini-Yoruba issues.

There is no historical friction here man. Everything is simple and straight.

Juliusmalema:



Why should I be interested in what chukwu means in Bini?

It might mean anything there but as for me I know it means God in igbo...Chi-ukwu shortened as Chukwu...Olulo Udaume.

So Same can be seen in Obaze, EzeOba, Obanya et al.

For names to exist and I gave you the meaning of the words as it is closed the case.

That thing you are looking for is not here. It can only be found in Bini-Yoruba issues.

There is no historical friction here man. Everything is simple and straight.

Quote me when u see an Igbo translation that ascribes Oba to wealth

Till then, Obaze remains Benin until proven otherwise...

U don't have facts for ur claims ... U are just using emotions for ur argument.. at least I've shown u some Igbo translation that states that Oba means barn, Calabash, used to refer to the oba of Benin..
what have u shown me?..

Tears tears and more tears...

At first, u lied that obaze meant king of kings but when u were found out and proven wrong, u resorted to holding unto the wealth claim like a dying man

When u have any proof that Oba means wealth, I'll reply u.. till then,

davidmarker:
I sincerely think I am way too smart to continue conversing on this forum.

Anyways I have more important things to do, those who want to be fooled by Yoruba story tellers, Yoruba revisionists, Yoruba liars... Feel free to indulge yourselves.

If you can't make the effort to get smarter and acquire knowledge in a rational way, then face the consequences of your intellectual lazyness.

Mr. Intellectual the liar without junction go and liar for fellow Benin half-baked historians your lies have been busted....