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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 2:25pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
Etinosa1234: No wonder the Tao11 beats you guys silly because of wild claims There is no need to argue anyway because we don't share same langauge similarities like you do with yorubas. So I see no reason for any argument with non igbo speaker. Maybe ask your fellow bini or yoruba man about what it means there here this is the Igbo meaning and that is our name and has no link to anyway. finish |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Alba3: 2:31pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
gregyboy: These is the problem with Bini revisionists that believe their own history began with European documentation; What a pity! Can't you Google who Obatala is before you start saying he and others are rubbish? I'm not going to insult you and your for fathers... I'm just asking you since you understand Yoruba language more than us to tell us Yoruba's word for king or ruler since every African group has a word for such. To help you: Noun: Oba = king or adjective(as in Oba awọn Ẹiyẹ, Eranko, Eniyan, etc) Verb: Ba = reign (to reign, rule) Clause: to/ti o ba ( to be in charge, etc) Tell us Yoruba's word for king oga if the above is Bini and stop repeating lies and what you don't understand. TAO11 already gave earlier documentation of Oba in Yoruba even if you don't believe in oral tradition but Italy... Go to Oba palace and ask if whether he's great grandchild of Oranmiyan of Ìfẹ. He will be in a better place to educate you not me 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Etinosa1234: 2:45pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 3:20pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
Juliusmalema: Anioma and Anambra were heavily influenced by Benin. There is a missionary documented eyewitness accounts by Ajayi Crowder written in 1875 were Asaba people claimed affinity with Benin. BRIEF HISTORY OF ISSELE-UKU Delta state https://www.nairaland.com/63004/brief-history-issele-uku#1249450 |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by macof(m): 3:43pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
These Bini miscreants are still making noise over a week now ![]() This argument ended long ago as by any logic and standard "Oba" is a Yoruba word and it has been demonstrated on this thread. All this prolonged back and forth is not necessary. The miscreants know this, they are just doing what they know how to do best It's not easy to be a minority with big ego. So it's not as if their struggle for relevance is not understandable Imagine after years of claiming oduduwa is a Bini Prince, after seeing nobody takes them seriously they changed to oduduwa is just a myth, no documentation of oduduwa ![]() ![]() ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by RedboneSmith(m): 4:05pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
samuk: Is that so? Asaba claims affinity with Nteje in Eastern Nigeria and to a lesser extent with Igala. There are one or two families from other places. For instance one Igweli in the 19th century descended from an Esan man. Do you have this document from Crowther where the Asaba claim Benin? I'd like to check something there. |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by TAO11(f): 4:10pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
macof: The bolded must be true from their logic. ![]() As there is no EUROPEAN eYeWiTnEsS WrItiNg of these fictional Benin CARTOONS. ![]() ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 5:38pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
RedboneSmith: Okay, I will be presenting it between today and tomorrow. |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 5:43pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
TAO11: We all know you are intoxicated on Benin history and get a lot of satisfaction from it, if you know what I nean ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by TAO11(f): 5:53pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
samuk:Why did you bother quoting me when you already know you’re about to type rubbish?? Anyways, here is the refutation to the 1808 crap which bald-head forced down your throat. ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/25#96567759 4 Likes |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by valirex: 5:56pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
Juliusmalema: Someone without history should be quiet when people with history talk/argue ![]() |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by valirex: 6:00pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
Balogunodua: I could tell you the meaning, but I don't think you are ready to learn |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 6:07pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
TAO11: Our Igbo narrator on that video said Yorriba was one of twelve groups of slaves that were returned to Sierra Leone, the group of returned slaves were diverse and the white man wanted to unify all these groups under one of the groups. This is how yarriba and later Yoruba was created, this umbrella name now cover all these groups from dahomey down to western Nigeria. Our narrator challenged any one to cite references that proved that western Nigeria people were known as Yoruba before 1808. I didn't see were you debunked it in your reference. I would like to see the 1600 reference claimed to have been cited by the guy you cited. I would like to see where such citation referred to the people of western Nigeria as yarriba before 1808. |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by TAO11(f): 6:08pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
Balogunodua:The monarch he is referring to is NOT even an Edoid monarch. My argument which he thinks he is replying to clearly mentions “Edoid” languages. Moreover, you can trust a Benin dictionary — Benin dictionary already affirms that the word “Oba” is from the Yoruba language. Says who? ... Says Bini dictionary. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by TAO11(f): 6:11pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
samuk:Oga go and wash my toilet and stop spitting around. ![]() You can’t even read your own Bini language, yet you want to read Ahmed Baba’s Sanghay’s writings. Trying desperately to bring up a Yoruba and Igbo brawl. Maga! ![]() 1808 Ko, 8180 ni ![]() ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/25#96567759 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 6:12pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
valirex: Lol Well, errm you sounded like a novice and a young boy living his full life with youthful exuberance when you write such nonsense as s reference to a dated history to the main argument. It simply shows you actually no nothing of history and doesn't know how to put a sound reply. That statement alone is a real embarrassment to your brothers arguing the rightful ownership of obaship. We that I can authoritatively conclude that you are just an undergraduate maybe year 1or year 2 and probably schooling in SW maybe lag or UI or .....not even Uniben. Your pattern of reasoning and actions really defines your projectory. Correct me if I am right. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by valirex: 6:17pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
Juliusmalema: We ain't arguing this with Igbos but with Yorubas especially one who is already biased. You have no right to ask me questions cos if you do whatever you get from me take it with a smile ![]() |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 6:17pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
samuk: Lol, you are really a funny man with wild claims. Let me put it in order. You didn't want to agree you have anything to do with Yorubas when Yorubas are actually telling you that you guys are same. You are resisting such but turn around to tell the history that everything about it starts and ends in Igbo. From A-Z of the names ends in Igbo. Are you sure, you guys are really okay? |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 6:18pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
TAO11: I am not one of your low IQ student you deceive with such abracadabra citations. Our Igbo narrator was right that Yoruba was created in 1808 by the white man, if not so you would have flooded the thread with citations already. Your fixation with Benin history has had the opposite effect and done more damage to the Yoruba brand. Everyone reading this thread can listen to the video and know that our so called omo sophisticated are nothing but a group of returned slaves from the American and European who were integrated with some indigenous people of western Nigeria. |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 6:23pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
valirex: Lol Well, I totally believe my last submission about you is totally correct. I hardly make mistakes when submitting on persons I have critically watched how their arguments goes... And as for the Igbos and sane way I told etinosa, there is actually Nothing on ground Binis have to argue with Igbos. It is more easier for binis and Yorubas to have historical frictions due to the fact that they are one and same people but difficult to bring that argument over here. You people have already agreed to that. |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by valirex: 6:32pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
Juliusmalema: Benins, Ibos, Yorubas have nothing in common. |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 6:39pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
valirex:Well errm tell that to your people sharing links of such here. We never did rather you guys are all over the next doing such. |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 6:39pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
RedboneSmith: cc: RedboneSmith please provide your reference were Asaba claims affinity with Nteje in Eastern Nigeria and to a lesser extent with Igala. I hope you will not come back next time to tell us that most tribes claiming Benin ancestry starting doing so recently. 1 Like
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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 6:40pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by valirex: 6:44pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
Juliusmalema: Lol don't play saint. Have you ever listened to Kanu before? You will be ashamed to be associated with him and if you're not Ibo you will be filled with anger. Anyways there are some words I can't use again as I now have a close Ibo friend and I won't want to hurt my friend otherwise I and you would have had a party ![]() |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by valirex: 6:46pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
samuk: Bro when I say in common I know we had histories with them but aside that we are not related to them |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 6:46pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
valirex: And you know I am not afraid of any party. Meanwhile I don't listen to Kanu , not on his FB page . So I don't give a damn of what he says. only those who looks for what to see or hear goes to his page or listens to him. |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by valirex: 6:48pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
Juliusmalema: Then only those who look for what Ẹdo people say against them go looking for it just as you are doing now 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 6:53pm On Nov 30, 2020 |
valirex: I am sorry it wasn't met for you. It was met for Juliusmalema I mean to say Juliusmalema have a lot to learn not you. 3 Likes |
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