Etinosa1234:


Quote me when u see an Igbo translation that ascribes Oba to wealth

Till then, Obaze remains Benin until proven otherwise...

U don't have facts for ur claims ... U are just using emotions for ur argument.. at least I've shown u some Igbo translation that states that Oba means barn, Calabash, used to refer to the oba of Benin..
what have u shown me?..

Tears tears and more tears...

At first, u lied that obaze meant king of kings but when u were found out and proven wrong, u resorted to holding unto the wealth claim like a dying man

When u have any proof that Oba means wealth, I'll reply u.. till then,

gregyboy:



Can you use historical and archeological fact to prove benin monarch came from ife


Dont get me angry or else i would rubbish yoruba history if you keep talking talking without fact

Do you know what it took me to discover benin had no relationship with ife

And you're coming here to say rubbish when you're not even from ife

Nonsense
Youre talking about obatala and the other rubbish how does that prove ownership to a word, how. Do we know the obatala and co didnt come into being after the word oba entered Yorubaland

Stop talking nonsense tao11 is yet to ascertain benin-ife ties but you're here already claiming it

To crown it all you guys are not even from ife

And stop using oral account, which can be said to suite intensions

Juliusmalema:
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No wonder the Tao11 beats you guys silly because of wild claims


There is no need to argue anyway because we don't share same langauge similarities like you do with yorubas.

So I see no reason for any argument with non igbo speaker.


Maybe ask your fellow bini or yoruba man about what it means there

here this is the Igbo meaning and that is our name and has no link to anyway.


finish[/s]

Juliusmalema:



At this point you are losing it by using such igbk dictionaries.

Let me give you an assignment go and research more about Anambra names infacts surnames same as delta area of Igbo and use your dictionary in comparing names you are digging up

You will realize that your dictionary can't give you anything.

You are making grave mistake in using such things to check names.

I would have given you a hint on peculiarity of names and how to arrive at such but since you have a set to target to try and lump it as maybe related to Bini then you are on a wild chase.

Discard that thing you are using, not near to the argument

samuk:


Anioma and Anambra were heavily influenced by Benin. There is a missionary documented eyewitness accounts by Ajayi Crowder written in 1875 were Asaba people claimed affinity with Benin.

BRIEF HISTORY OF ISSELE-UKU Delta state

https://www.nairaland.com/63004/brief-history-issele-uku#1249450

macof:
These Bini miscreants are still making noise over a week now
This argument ended long ago as by any logic and standard "Oba" is a Yoruba word and it has been demonstrated on this thread.

All this prolonged back and forth is not necessarily. The miscreants know this, they are just doing what they know how to do best
It's not easy to be a minority with big ego. So it's not as if their struggle for relevance is not understandable

Imagine after years of claiming oduduwa is a Bini Prince, after seeing nobody takes them seriously they changed to oduduwa is just a myth, no documentation of oduduwa but it pains them when you tell them ewuare, esigie, Ozolua etc must be myths too bloody clowns

RedboneSmith:


Is that so? Asaba claims affinity with Nteje in Eastern Nigeria and to a lesser extent with Igala. There are one or two families from other places. For instance one Igweli in the 19th century descended from an Esan man.

Do you have this document from Crowther where the Asaba claim Benin? I'd like to check something there.

TAO11:


The bolded must be true from their logic.

As there is no EUROPEAN eYeWiTnEsS WrItiNg of these fictional Benin CARTOONS.

samuk:
[s]We all know you are intoxicated on Benin history and get a lot of satisfaction from it, if you know what I nean . Unfortunately you also woke up the Benin that took their history for granted and lift the veil off Yoruba history. Many that didn't know that present Yoruba was the creation of the white man in 1808, now know and thanks to our Igbo video presentation that did justice to the Yoruba history to drive home what the Benin have always said.[/s]

Juliusmalema:




Lol

I told one of your people to make efforts and reach out to the people of ogba and integrate back to Bini


His grand father reigned as Obi, his father reigned as same EzeOgba and now his son reigns as Oba.


Lol

Balogunodua:

The question is... .what is the meaning of Oba in Edo language?

TAO11:
Why did you bother quoting me when you already know you’re about to type rubbish??

Anyways, here is the refutation to the 1808 crap bald head shared with you.

https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/25#96567759

Balogunodua:

The question is... .what is the meaning of Oba in Edo language?

samuk:
[s]Our Igbo narrator on that video said Yorriba was one of twelve groups of slaves that were returned to Sierra Leone, the group of returned slaves were diverse and the white man wanted to unify all these groups under one of the groups. This is how yarriba and later Yoruba was created, these umbrella name now cover all these groups from dahomey down to western Nigeria.

Our narrator challenged any to cite references that proved that western Nigeria people were known as Yoruba before 1808. I didn't see were you debunked it in your reference. I would like to see the 1600 reference claimed to have been cited by the guy you cited. I would like to see where such citation referred to the people of western Nigeria before 1808[/s].

valirex:


Someone without history should be quiet when people with history talk/argue

Juliusmalema:



Lol

Well, errm you sounded like a novice and a young boy living his full life with youthful exuberance when you write such nonsense as s reference to a dated history to the main argument.

It simply shows you actually no nothing of history and doesn't know how to put a sound reply.


That statement alone is a real embarrassment to your brothers arguing the rightful ownership of obaship.

We that I can authoritatively conclude that you are just an undergraduate maybe year 1or year 2 and probably schooling in SW maybe lag or UI or .....not even Uniben.


Your pattern of reasoning and actions really defines your projectory.

Correct me if I am right.

samuk:


Anioma and Anambra were heavily influenced by Benin. There is a missionary documented eyewitness accounts by Ajayi Crowder written in 1875 were Asaba people claimed affinity with Benin.

BRIEF HISTORY OF ISSELE-UKU Delta state

https://www.nairaland.com/63004/brief-history-issele-uku#1249450

TAO11:
Oga go and wash my toilet and stop spitting around.

You can’t even read your own Bini language, yet you want to read Ahmed Baba’s Sanghay’s writings. Maga!

valirex:


We ain't arguing this with Igbos but with Yorubas especially one who is already biased.
You have no right to ask me questions cos if you do whatever you get from me take it with a smile

Juliusmalema:



Lol

Well, I totally believe my last submission about you is totally correct. I hardly make mistakes when submitting on persons I have critically watched how their arguments goes...


And as for the Igbos and sane way I told etinosa, there is actually Nothing on ground Binis have to argue with Igbos.

It is more easier for binis and Yorubas to have historical frictions due to the fact that they are one and same people but difficult to bring that argument over here.

You people have already agreed to that.

valirex:

Benins, Ibos, Yorubas have nothing in common.

RedboneSmith:


Is that so? Asaba claims affinity with Nteje in Eastern Nigeria and to a lesser extent with Igala. There are one or two families from other places. For instance one Igweli in the 19th century descended from an Esan man.

Do you have this document from Crowther where the Asaba claim Benin? I'd like to check something there.

Juliusmalema:


Well errm tell that to your people sharing links of such here.

We never did rather you guys are all over the next doing such.

samuk:


you have a lot to learn

valirex:


Lol don't play saint. Have you ever listened to Kanu before? You will be ashamed to be associated with him and if you're not Ibo you will be filled with anger.
Anyways there are some words I can't use again as I now have a close Ibo friend and I won't want to hurt my friend otherwise I and you would have had a party

Juliusmalema:


And you know I am not afraid of any party.

Meanwhile I don't listen to Kanu , not on his FB page .

So I don't give a damn of what he says.

only those who looks for what to see or hear goes to his page or listens to him.

valirex:


Bro when I say in common I know we had histories with them but aside that we are not related to them