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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by AreaFada2: 6:54pm On Nov 30, 2020
Balogunodua:

The question is... .what is the meaning of Oba in Edo language?
It has been dissected here since over nearly decade here. Read my extensive writing on it from old post. Meaning of Oba in Edo is no secret. It was used in ogiso time already. Long long before Eweka l dynasty.
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by valirex: 6:57pm On Nov 30, 2020
samuk:


I am sorry it wasn't met for you. It was met for Juliusmalema

I mean to say Juliusmalema have a lot to learn not you.

He has a lot, not just being biased.

It's a good thing they know all this rants ends online. They can't stand before and Edo man and spill this shit
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 7:01pm On Nov 30, 2020
valirex:


Then only those who look for what Ẹdo people say against them go looking for it just as you are doing now

Maybe those hiding under different Monikers to create threads on igbo related issuesgrin
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 7:03pm On Nov 30, 2020
valirex:


He has a lot, not just being biased.

It's a good thing they know all this rants ends online. They can't stand before and Edo man and spill this shit

Apart from being biased, some of them are not very well informed. I have just share 1875 document that shows Asaba claiming Benin descendants and some of these Igbo guys that recently migrated to Anioma are claiming Asaba as Igbo.

The 1875 document I shared didn't even see Asaba people as Igbo in 1875, there was a clear distinction made between them.
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by gregyboy(m): 7:05pm On Nov 30, 2020
Balogunodua:

The question is... .what is the meaning of Oba in Edo language?


This is not the question you ought to be asking the question should is there really ife benin connections,

Toa111 is still trying to prove it, you should join her
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 7:05pm On Nov 30, 2020
samuk:


I am sorry it wasn't met for you. It was met for Juliusmalema

I mean to say Juliusmalema have a lot to learn not you.

Are you sure that I do?

Don't think I am not oblivious of my environment and as such I am in total control of my projections.
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 7:07pm On Nov 30, 2020
samuk:


Apart from being biased, some of them are not very well informed. I have just share 1875 document that shows Asaba claiming Benin descendants and someone of these Igbo guys that recently migrated to Anioma are claiming Asaba as Igbo.

The 1875 document I shared didn't even see Asaba people as Igbo in 1875, there was a clear distinction made between them.


Lol

You shared..Lol

We are now conversant if this wild claims, so it is nothing to us.


Let me also add that you add so much embarrassment to yourself on these claims.

Face the yorubas and make sure you guys arrives at s common ground of history....what both of you ( binis and Yorubas) will accept as common ground ( shared history)
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 7:09pm On Nov 30, 2020
The very fact that you guys are not looking at what the Yoruba cross-dresser says and laughing to high heavens is disappointing.
Basically the transgendered just copies my speech and replace some words in order to turn it against the Edo.
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 7:10pm On Nov 30, 2020
Juliusmalema:


Are you sure that I do?

Don't think I am not oblivious of my environment and as such I am in total control of my projections.


Go and read what the people of Asaba told Bishop Ajayi Crowder in 1875 about their Benin ancestry and read how Crowder said the Asaba where then different from Igbo in habits and they still retained their Benin phrases in 1875.

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by valirex: 7:11pm On Nov 30, 2020
Juliusmalema:


Maybe those hiding under different Monikers to create threads on igbo related issuesgrin

Are you implying you have different monikers?
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 7:12pm On Nov 30, 2020
As I keep saying, the Yoruba are not even trying to make sense. The ceremonial uniform of the Oba of Benin hasn't changed since Oba Ovonramwen and beyond.
It is even depicted in the Benin bronze which are in many cases dated as far back as the 15th century.

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 7:13pm On Nov 30, 2020
samuk:


Go and read what the people of Asaba told Bishop Ajayi Crowder in 1875 about their Benin ancestry and read how Crowder said the Asaba where then different from Igbo in habits and they still retained their Benin phrases in 1875.

Know it today that Igbos not read history written by foreigners or under age or ill informed.

Igbos knows their history and would never allow the hunt inch near their history.

We don't glorify stewwwpiddity as history.

Mbanu...ask around.
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by valirex: 7:14pm On Nov 30, 2020
Juliusmalema:



Lol

You shared..Lol

We are now conversant if this wild claims, so it is nothing to us.


Let me also add that you add so much embarrassment to yourself on these claims.

Face the yorubas and make sure you guys arrives at s common ground of history....what both of you ( binis and Yorubas) will accept as common ground ( shared history)

I thought you just claimed that you are not going about looking for what Ẹdo people are saying about ibos?
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 7:15pm On Nov 30, 2020
Juliusmalema:



Lol

You shared..Lol

We are now conversant if this wild claims, so it is nothing to us.

Guy, you are irredeemable, everything is wild claim to you, not only are you not well informed, you are also not ready to learn.

1. Azikiwe and his grandmother don't know what they were saying.
2. Oluadah Equiano don't know what he was saying.
3. Bishop Crowder didn't know what he was saying

And you that is unknown and probably don't have WAEC know what you are saying.

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 7:16pm On Nov 30, 2020
valirex:

Are you implying you have different monikers?
Not implying only stated facts.
So you check yourself.
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 7:16pm On Nov 30, 2020
What is even amazing is that the transgendered takes two pictures of the same crown in two different angles and concluded it is two different crowns.
transgendered, for your info, those photos were taken the same day, and are the same exact crown. I don't want to address that obvious troll who never makes sense and rather specialises in just making you waste your time online with long nonsensical rubbish.
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 7:17pm On Nov 30, 2020
samuk:


Guy, you are irredeemable, everything is wild claim to you, not only are you not well informed, you are also not ready to learn.

1. Azikiwe and his grandmother don't know what they were saying.
2. Oluadah Equiano don't know what he was saying.
3. Bishop Crowder didn't know what he was saying

And you that is unknown and probably don't have WAEC know what you are saying.



Same old regurgitation. Next


These are more of the reason Tao11 always beats you silly here.

History revolving around three characters... of whom are all fictions
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 7:18pm On Nov 30, 2020
valirex:


I thought you just claimed that you are not going about looking for what Ẹdo people are saying about ibos?

Tell the samuk to stop peddling lies around me.

It won't fly.
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 7:18pm On Nov 30, 2020
At this point, any Edo being fooled by the Yoruba can just change tribe and join them all together, bastards should flock together. Those who want to be slaves, will be even lower than slaves, they will be the slaves of slaves.

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by valirex: 7:19pm On Nov 30, 2020
Juliusmalema:


Not implying only stated facts.

So you check yourself.

Only one who acts negatively would suspect another of the same thing.
Double check yourself
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by valirex: 7:21pm On Nov 30, 2020
Juliusmalema:


Tell the samuk to stop peddling lies around me.

It won't fly.

No, he didn't you stepped in trouble waters.
He didn't mention you on this thread before you jumped in

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 7:33pm On Nov 30, 2020
Etinosa1234:


Quote me when u see an Igbo translation that ascribes Oba to wealth

Till then, Obaze remains Benin until proven otherwise...

U don't have facts for ur claims ... U are just using emotions for ur argument.. at least I've shown u some Igbo translation that states that Oba means barn, Calabash, used to refer to the oba of Benin..
what have u shown me?..

Tears tears and more tears...

At first, u lied that obaze meant king of kings but when u were found out and proven wrong, u resorted to holding unto the wealth claim like a dying man

When u have any proof that Oba means wealth, I'll reply u.. till then,
I have already told you guys that reasonings like "what does this word mean in your language" are to be thrown in the dose been. None of these prove anything.
Bad habits die hard.

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Etinosa1234: 7:39pm On Nov 30, 2020
samuk:


Guy, you are irredeemable, everything is wild claim to you, not only are you not well informed, you are also not ready to learn.

1. Azikiwe and his grandmother don't know what they were saying.
2. Oluadah Equiano don't know what he was saying.
3. Bishop Crowder didn't know what he was saying

And you that is unknown and probably don't have WAEC know what you are saying.

Bro leave that Juliusmalema alone... He's obviously a disgruntled kid who thinks Igbos didn't associate with any other tribe throughout history...
Funnily enough the tribe was a scattered something prior to the amalgamation of Nigeria and there is a high probability of Benin exerting on some of the villages due to its influence..

His style
a)Enters a thread where Benin-yoruba is arguing
b)then when he sees that Benin mention Igbo, he'll jump and say that Igbo has nothing to do with Benin
c)when confronted with facts, instead of returning back with facts, he'll start crying on the thread calling it falsehood and deflecting it to the Yoruba to save him from his ignorance...
d)rinse and repeat

That Guy thinks he's wise...

According to him,
Olaudah Equaino is a liar and he that was born less than 300 years later is saying the truth
According to him,
Nnamdi Azikiwe is a liar and he that was born few years after Zik died was correct
Now according to him
Crowther is a liar and he that doesn't know the origin of his own village is correct...

If Juliusmalema ever bring any fact to support his claims, I go baf naked...

That boy nor wise... Make Una nor dey engage am

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Etinosa1234: 7:42pm On Nov 30, 2020
Juliusmalema:




Same old regurgitation. Next


These are more of the reason Tao11 always beats you silly here.

History revolving around three characters... of whom are all fictions

Nnamdi Azikiwe who died in 1996 is now a fiction...
Its like u are one of the escapee from White house prison

Such insolence is on another level

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Etinosa1234: 7:46pm On Nov 30, 2020
Juliusmalema:


Know it today that Igbos not read history written by foreigners or under age or ill informed.

Igbos knows their history and would never allow the hunt inch near their history.

We don't glorify stewwwpiddity as history.

Mbanu...ask around.

See an Igbo website https://www.google.com/amp/s/ukpuru.tumblr.com/post/124264146737/amp...

It seems u are more knowledgeable than them my Lord

Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 7:51pm On Nov 30, 2020
Juliusmalema:




Same old regurgitation. Next


These are more of the reason Tao11 always beats you silly here.

History revolving around three characters... of whom are all fictions

You even said the Igbo dictionary presented by Etinosa1234 also lied and didn't cover all Igbo.

The Yoruba can't save your ass on Bishop Crowder's documents, this is your cross to carry, if you believe Crowder lied, present your prove and stop calling on the Yoruba to come save your ignorant ass, it's because of people like you, the Igbos are looked down upon.
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by gregyboy(m): 7:59pm On Nov 30, 2020
Alba3:


These is the problem with Bini revisionists that believe their own history began with European documentation; What a pity!

Can't you Google who Obatala is before you start saying he and others are rubbish? I'm not going to insult you and your for fathers...

I'm just asking you since you understand Yoruba language more than us to tell us Yoruba's word for king or ruler since every African group has a word for such.

To help you:

Noun: Oba = king

or adjective(as in Oba awọn Ẹiyẹ, Eranko, Eniyan, etc)

Verb: Ba = reign (to reign, rule)

Clause: to/ti o ba ( to be in charge, etc)

Tell us Yoruba's word for king oga if the above is Bini and stop repeating lies and what you don't understand. TAO11 already gave earlier documentation of Oba in Yoruba even if you don't believe in oral tradition but Italy...

Go to Oba palace and ask if whether he's great grandchild of Oranmiyan of Ìfẹ. He will be in a better place to educate you not me


You still want to push it,


You have to first prove if ife and oyo had connections, in the past, like father and son connection


If you can prove it, then you have to shut up on the benin ife talk


The last i check alafin was claiming he was higjer than ooni


So the issue of oduduwa sending oromiyan to benin is already defeated


Samuel johson at 1897 also claim benin was second to last born to the mythical oduduwa

Meaning oromiyan never came to establish benin



You're a clown, the whole yoruba history makes me laugh
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 8:10pm On Nov 30, 2020
samuk:


You even said the Igbo dictionary presented by Etinosa1234 also lied and didn't cover all Igbo.

The Yoruba can't save your ass on Bishop Crowder's documents, this is your cross to carry, if you believe Crowder lied, present your prove and stop calling on the Yoruba to come save your ignorant ass, it's because of people like you, the Igbos are looked down upon.


Seems you live in a world of illusion.

Something that was already dismissed with wave of hand is what you are writing this sermon.

You are really a funny man.


What do an average igbo man needs Yoruba defence for grin


Continue dreaming.
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 8:11pm On Nov 30, 2020
This is certainly a mad house.
No better way to describe this forum.
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 8:13pm On Nov 30, 2020
Etinosa1234:


See an Igbo website https://www.google.com/amp/s/ukpuru.tumblr.com/post/124264146737/amp...

It seems u are more knowledgeable than them my Lord


Lol


Igbo man don't need igbo dictionary to blow his language.

You only need to console yourself, so ride on.


I don't need it grin grin
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Balogunodua(m): 8:13pm On Nov 30, 2020
AreaFada2:

It has been dissected here since over nearly decade here. Read my extensive writing on it from old post. Meaning of Oba in Edo is no secret. It was used in ogiso time already. Long long before Eweka l dynasty.
Just tell me the meaning in Edo language.

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