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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 8:14pm On Nov 30, 2020
TAO11 now have two assignments on her hands.

1. To prove that Benin/Ife relationship is older than 1800s.

2. To prove that the creation of yarriba of Yoruba by the white man is older than 1808.

Until she accomplishes these two simple tasks many people will no longer take her seriously, it will be a waste of time to engage her.

Poor her I can see another long sabbatical loading....

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 8:15pm On Nov 30, 2020
Anybody whom is not using his brain to the fullest is not my brother and should change tribe to join one of the bastard tribes descending from slaves and slave raiders and uncle Toms: eg yoruba.
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Etinosa1234: 8:15pm On Nov 30, 2020
Juliusmalema:



Lol


Igbo man don't need igbo dictionary to blow his language.

You only need to console yourself, so ride on.


I don't need it grin grin

Click the link and read Abi u dey use freebasics
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Balogunodua(m): 8:15pm On Nov 30, 2020
davidmarker:
This is certainly a mad house.
No better way to describe this forum.
Just change to one of your numerous account s and stop disturbing us... grin
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 8:17pm On Nov 30, 2020
All my respect to the one and only Oba. For there is only one and he lives in Benin city, Oba ghato kpere. Isse.

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 8:17pm On Nov 30, 2020
Etinosa1234:


Click the link and read Abi u dey use freebasics

The guy is allergic to books and reading.
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 8:17pm On Nov 30, 2020
valirex:

No, he didn't you stepped in trouble waters. He didn't mention you on this thread before you jumped in

I understand his game.
But if he limits the issue to Bini/yoruba.
Nobody will disturb him.
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 8:17pm On Nov 30, 2020
Etinosa1234:


Bro leave that Juliusmalema alone... He's obviously a disgruntled kid who thinks Igbos didn't associate with any other tribe throughout history...
Funnily enough the tribe was a scattered something prior to the amalgamation of Nigeria and there is a high probability of Benin exerting on some of the villages due to its influence..

His style
a)Enters a thread where Benin-yoruba is arguing
b)then when he sees that Benin mention Igbo, he'll jump and say that Igbo has nothing to do with Benin
c)when confronted with facts, instead of returning back with facts, he'll start crying on the thread calling it falsehood and deflecting it to the Yoruba to save him from his ignorance...
d)rinse and repeat

That Guy thinks he's wise...

According to him,
Olaudah Equaino is a liar and he that was born less than 300 years later is saying the truth
According to him,
Nnamdi Azikiwe is a liar and he that was born few years after Zik died was correct
Now according to him
Crowther is a liar and he that doesn't know the origin of his own village is correct...

If Juliusmalema ever bring any fact to support his claims, I go baf naked...

That boy nor wise... Make Una nor dey engage am



When Tao11 has already bathed you guys naked.

You want make I add coal of fire on top. We have conscience and doesn't care.

All we say is sort unasef( Bini/yoruba) out.. period.

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 8:18pm On Nov 30, 2020
valirex:

Only one who acts negatively would suspect another of the same thing. Double check yourself

Nothing suspecting.
Check
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Balogunodua(m): 8:19pm On Nov 30, 2020
samuk:

TAO11 now have two assignments on her hands.

1. To prove that Benin/Ife relationship is older than 1800s.

2. To prove that the creation of yarriba of Yoruba by the white man is older than 1808.

Until she accomplishes these two simple tasks many people will no longer take her seriously, it will be a waste of time to engage her.

Poor her I can see another long sabbatical loading....
She already dealt with you guyz cheesy that is why you people can't leave this thread.. grin and creating nuisance posts filled with insults.... cheesy typical Edo mans tactics grin grin

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by TAO11(f): 8:21pm On Nov 30, 2020
samuk:

[s]TAO11 now have two assignments on her hands.

1. To prove that Benin/Ife relationship is older than 1800s.

2. To prove that the creation of yarriba of Yoruba by the white man is older than 1808.

Until she accomplishes these two simple tasks many people will no longer take her seriously, it will be a waste of time to engage her. Poor her I can see another long sabbatical loading....[/s]
Already proven on this same thread. grin

Some you may trick your mind, and flood here with more tears for all I care. cheesy

Everyone now know better. I am glad it happened on this thread. No hiding is possible. cheesy

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Balogunodua(m): 8:23pm On Nov 30, 2020
gregyboy:



This is not the question you ought to be asking the question should is there really ife benin connections,

Toa111 is still trying to prove it, you should join her
Hope you guyz will be able to sleep this night .. grin you rest and accept defeat cheesy before you get heart and brain problem grin

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by valirex: 8:24pm On Nov 30, 2020
Juliusmalema:



I understand his game.

But if he limits the issue to Bini/yoruba.

Nobody will disturb him.

Quit siding them and he won't disturb you, you are not the only Ibo on nairaland but you're the only one claiming being attacked
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 8:25pm On Nov 30, 2020
Juliusmalema:




When Tao11 has already bathed you guys naked.

You want make I add coal of fire on top. We have conscience and doesn't care.

All we say is sort unasef( Bini/yoruba) out.. period.

TAO11 has been reduced to repeating herself like a broken record since your Igbo brother dismantled her with his history of Yoruba videos that supported and tallied with what the Benin have been saying.

She was rattled beyond beliefs, your Nna bros rocked her world to foundation.

She is now struggling to debunk the fact that her precious Yoruba is a baby creation of the white man in 1808, as if this is not bad enough, she is still unable to prove Benin/Ife connection beyond 1800s.

You Igbos better save those video for the days the Yoruba decide to take on you guys.
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by AreaFada2: 8:27pm On Nov 30, 2020
Balogunodua:

Just tell me the meaning in Edo language.
Do not be lazy. Do some work if you seek knowledge.
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Etinosa1234: 8:29pm On Nov 30, 2020
Juliusmalema:




When Tao11 has already bathed you guys naked.

You want make I add coal of fire on top. We have conscience and doesn't care.

All we say is sort unasef( Bini/yoruba) out.. period.

Fulfilling rule 3 as expected... Predicted u well...

Igbos were under the Benin Empire...

I want to see how best u can cry

Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Balogunodua(m): 8:31pm On Nov 30, 2020
AreaFada2:

Do not be lazy. Do some work if you seek knowledge.
Dogding the question asual... grin

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by TAO11(f): 8:31pm On Nov 30, 2020
samuk:
TAO11 has been reduced to repeating herself like a broken record since your Igbo brother dismantled her with his history of Yoruba videos that supported and tallied with what the Benin have been saying.

She was rattled beyond beliefs, your Nna bros rocked her world to foundation.

She is now struggling to debunk the fact that her precious Yoruba is a baby creation of the white man in 1808, as if this is not bad enough, she is still unable to prove Benin/Ife connection beyond 1800s.
Somebody is in severe pains. Someone has activated “life in denial” mode Somebody needs a recount just like Trump. grin cheesy You both share the same IQ apparently.

You may live in denial for all I care — as long as it helps you cope with floggings.

@Juliusmalema can you please confirm to this heartbroken block head that his dumb attempt to pitch Igbo against Yoruba has failed on arrival.

Please remind him to address his ancestral problems which I’ve healed up for him, rather than look for escape via pitching others.

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by RedboneSmith(m): 8:32pm On Nov 30, 2020
samuk:


cc: RedboneSmith

please provide your reference were Asaba claims affinity with Nteje in Eastern Nigeria and to a lesser extent with Igala.

I hope you will not come back next time to tell us that most tribes claiming Benin ancestry starting doing so recently.


It is somewhat sad that people still do not understand that relationship and ancestry do not mean the same thing. I was really expecting the screenshot to say the ancestors of Asaba came from Benin. It doesn't say that. Of course, there was a relationship between Asaba and Benin. How else do you explain the Benin titles used in Asaba and other cultural imprints from Benin in and around Asaba?

Let me get on my laptop later, and I will share screenshots of three different versions of Asaba origin collected between 1879 and 1914. All of them agree that the founder or Asaba was Nnebisi from Nteje. One or two also mention an Igala prince who also came and joined Nnebisi's people. None mentions Benin.

NB: I have never claimed everyone manufactured Benin origin in recent times. There are places like Aboh, many Ika towns, etc that mentioned Benin part- or full-ancestry from their earliest documented traditions. I maintain however that there has been a great expansion of claims of Benin origin in comparatively recent times. Ekpeye, Ikwerre, Etche and even Ohafia claims of Benin descent belong to this latter wave of Benin claims.

I'll post the Asaba story when I get home and can use my laptop.

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by TAO11(f): 8:32pm On Nov 30, 2020
Balogunodua:

Just tell me the meaning in Edo language.
Well, Bini dictionary confirmed the following to us:

(1) That it has no literal meaning in the Bini language.

(2) That it was borrowed from the Yoruba language.

Haha!

This thing that I’m doing is not good sha oo. grin

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by AreaFada2: 8:33pm On Nov 30, 2020
Balogunodua:

Dogding the question asual... grin
Dodge, with pages of answer on Nairaland?

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Balogunodua(m): 8:34pm On Nov 30, 2020
samuk:


TAO11 has been reduced to repeating herself like a broken record since your Igbo brother dismantled her with his history of Yoruba videos that supported and tallied with what the Benin have been saying.

She was rattled beyond beliefs, your Nna bros rocked her world to foundation.

She is now struggling to debunk the fact that her precious Yoruba is a baby creation of the white man in 1808, as if this is not bad enough, she is still unable to prove Benin/Ife connection beyond 1800s.

Reduced indeed.. cheesy Mr. Reducer .. grin grin
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Balogunodua(m): 8:35pm On Nov 30, 2020
AreaFada2:

Dodge, with pages of answer on Nairaland?
Edo man in mission goal changing.... grin grin
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by TAO11(f): 8:36pm On Nov 30, 2020
RedboneSmith:


It is somewhat sad that people still do not understand that relationship and ancestry do not mean the same thing. I was really expecting the screenshot to say the ancestors of Asaba came from Benin. It doesn't say that. Of course, there was a relationship between Asaba and Benin. How else do you explain the Benin titles used in Asaba and other cutltural imprints from Benin in and around Asaba?

Let me get on my laptop later, and I will share screenshots of three different versions of Asaba origin collected between 1879 and 1914. All of them agree that the founder or Asaba was Nnebisi from Nteje. One or two also mention an Igala prince who also came and joined Nnebisi's people. None mentions Benin.

NB: I have never claimed everyone manufactured Benin origin in recent times. There are places like Aboh, many Ika towms, etc that mentioned Benin part- or full-ancestry from their earliest documented traditions. I maintain however that there has been a great expansion of claims of Benin origin in comparatively recent times. Ekpeye, Ikwerre, Etche and even Ohafia claims of Benin recent belong to this latter wave of Benin claims.

I'll post the Asaba story when I get home and can use my laptop.
It’s their small tribe syndrome for me. grin

Benin Reasoning 101 — 912
See, our king drives Bentley.

Wow! That king too drives Bentley.

Hmm! That king originated from Benin kingdom.

Me: Rolls my eyes 360 degrees.

grin

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 8:38pm On Nov 30, 2020
RedboneSmith:


It is somewhat sad that people still do not understand that relationship and ancestry do not mean the same thing. I was really expecting the screenshot to say the ancestors of Asaba came from Benin. It doesn't say that. Of course, there was a relationship between Asaba and Benin. How else do you explain the Benin titles used in Asaba and other cutltural imprints from Benin in and around Asaba?

Let me get on my laptop later, and I will share screenshots of three different versions of Asaba origin collected between 1879 and 1914. All of them agree that the founder or Asaba was Nnebisi from Nteje. One or two also mention an Igala prince who also came and joined Nnebisi's people. None mentions Benin.

NB: I have never claimed everyone manufactured Benin origin in recent times. There are places like Aboh, many Ika towms, etc that mentioned Benin part- or full-ancestry from their earliest documented traditions. I maintain however that there has been a great expansion of claims of Benin origin in comparatively recent times. Ekpeye, Ikwerre, Etche and even Ohafia claims of Benin recent belong to this latter wave of Benin claims.

I'll post the Asaba story when I get home and can use my laptop.


Did you read that document properly? Did you skip where it says that the Asaba people migrated to Asaba from the sovereign of the Oba of Benin due to wars?

Did you read where a clear distinction was made between Asaba people and Ibo/Igbo people of which they were amalgamated?

Did you read were it says Asaba people have different habits from Ibo/Igbo people?

Did you read the part it says the Asaba people still retained Benin words, phrases and habits in 1875?

Did TAO11 borrowed you her lenses?

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Balogunodua(m): 8:43pm On Nov 30, 2020
TAO11:
Weel, Bini dictionary confirmed the following to us:

(1) That it has no literal meaning in the Bini language.

(2) That is is borrowed from the Yoruba language.

Haha!

This thing that I’m doing is not good sha oo. grin
grin cheesy have mercy on them please cheesy before they start writing petition to ITALY.. grin grin

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by TAO11(f): 8:49pm On Nov 30, 2020
A short story about Benin Nairaland liars:

A Benin man (Mr X) living in the village once asks his Benin friend (Mr Y) the following:

“Where are you come from”?

As he (Mr Y) attempted to answer: “I am coming from ‘to- -‘ “

Mr X had disappeared into oblivion.

The king then sent men on a mission to locate the fleeing coward (Mr X).

Upon finding Mr X under his bed, disguised in his wife’s garment; he confessed that he had thought Mr Y was about to mention ‘TAO11’ — instead of ‘town’


End of the story!
.
.
.
Key takeaway:
Do not be a Benin liar, otherwise TAO11’s terrifying lie-busting presence would be engraved on your heart for a long time to come.

TAO11 will chase you around in your dreams. TAO11 will be in your head. TAO11 will be on your lips as you speak. TAO11 will be on your finger as you type.

Be warned!

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by RedboneSmith(m): 8:53pm On Nov 30, 2020
samuk:


Did you read that document properly? Did you skip where it says that the Asaba people migrated to Asaba from the sovereign of the Oba of Benin due to wars?

Did you read where a clear distinction was made between Asaba people and Ibo/Igbo people of which they were amalgamated?

Did you read the part it says the Asaba people still retained Benin words, phrases and habits in 1875?

Did TAO11 borrowed you her lenses?

Chillax. I'll post three entire versions, free of ambiguity. There was a war with Benin in the time of Osemwede (called Osomadi in Asaba traditions). Asaba people fled and later returned to their land, after the army of Benin left (I'll post this too, if I find it.) This whole talk about migrating from sovereignty, etc etc, due to wars, etc...sounds like an allusion to that war in Osemwede's time than to any claim on the part of Asaba to have been of Benin descent.

Northern Nigerians still retain Arabic words, phrases and habits in 2020. Means very little.

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Balogunodua(m): 8:54pm On Nov 30, 2020
TAO11:
A short story about Benin Nairaland liars

A Benin man (Mr X) living in the village once asks his Benin friend Y the following:

“Where are you come from”?

As he Y attempts to answer “I am coming from “to- -“

Mr X had disappeared into oblivion.

The king sent men on a mission to locate the fleeing coward X.

Upon finding him under his bed disguised in his wife garment, he confessed that he though was about to mention TAO11 (instead of town).
End of story!

Do not be a Benin liar, otherwise TAO11’s terrifying lie-busting presence would be engraved on your heart for a long time to come.



Most interesting story ever.... grin grin

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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 8:57pm On Nov 30, 2020
TAO11:
It’s their small tribe syndrome for me. grin

Benin Reasoning 101 — 912
See, our king drives Bentley.

Wow! That king too drives Bentley.

Hmm! That king originated from Benin kingdom.

Me: Rolls my eyes 360 degrees.

grin



NB: I have never claimed everyone manufactured Benin origin in recent times. There are places like Aboh, many Ika towms, etc that mentioned Benin part- or full-ancestry from their earliest documented traditions. I maintain however that there has been a great expansion of claims of Benin origin in comparatively recent times. Ekpeye, Ikwerre, Etche and even Ohafia claims of Benin recent belong to this latter wave of Benin claims....RedboneSmith

I guess you didn't see the above from RedboneSmith submission. Small tribe that everyone is claiming one way or the other. The Yoruba are not left out of making claims of relationship with Benin. It shows how special we are.

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