United fans ehn?

Had we signed another coach aside OGS I'm sure by now the argument will be about why we did.

Lana1:
Haq haq haq.

You read their posts and you would feel the previous times we played Southampton with Ings and Redmond on the pitch, that we must have lost 4-0 or sumn.
As if Southampton is the only club in the world with injured players.

As for Hasenhutl, he can keep crying. He bottled a 2 goal lead at home. But the other team celebrating a comeback win is where he draws the line.

the same Hasenhutl that was hopping like a frog right on pitch after Obafemi scored a late equalizer for 1-1; again ***drum rolls*** through a set piece.
some are suggesting he takes the United job too. the set piece and inshallah merchant

melodyogonna:

If the coach has the CV why not? Sir Alex was hired from the Scottish League or whatever it's called. Ole wasn't outrightly hired btw, incase you forgot.

Winning the Norwegian league is actually important, especially since they've not won it for some time until then, winning it B2B is even more impressive, shows he doesn't have weak mentality over winning stuffs like one very good coach we know.

What do you mean Cardiff's position is irrelevant? Haha, this is funny

how often does that happen?

I bet you marked Aston Villa out for relegation last season...

Crystal Palace appointed Roy Hodgson and avoided the drop...

West Ham beat United at Old Trafford while Fergie was still here to escape relegation when it looked certain they'd go down...

West Ham at some point last season looked destined for the drop...

You can't point to their league position because their coach buckled up and they gave it a go hence their continued stay in the EPL...Ole failed with Cardiff.

In your first paragraph you mentioned Fergie and made reference to the Scottish league for being just as lowly rated...What Fergie achieved with Aberdeen was stuff of legend, he broke the old firm stranglehold on the league by winning the Scottish league with Aberdeen and not stopping, he did it in Europe beating the very best...Don't compare or contrast Fergie with Aberdeen and Ole with Molde...

Lana1:
At home to Fulham no less.
We are one win away from top 4. I hope they dont choke and bottle it like always.

Amen

spillo1:

Pochettino is not a serial loser and he is a fantastic manager.

Thank you

ChristineC:
I'm not interested in cluelessness.

what world of difference? that's my interest.
will those two players have increased the score to like 4-0 or something?
have this team ever scored that much with their current manager in charge against United?

Ofcourse they would have done a lot more damage

Oh...you wanna play down the fact that when they were on transition in that game, they looked more dangerous or the fact that they bossed the first half

Both teams missed chances tho but it could have been a more balanced game with their 2 players participating

Not having your goal scorer in a game definitely has an effect

ChristineC:
the same Hasenhutl that was hopping like a frog right on pitch after Obafemi scored a late equalizer for 1-1; again ***drum rolls*** through a set piece.
some are suggesting he takes the United job too. the set piece and inshallah merchant

As for the celebration thing, i dont even know why that is suddenly a problem.

Liverpool celebrated a 2-2 draw at home to West Brom.
Chelsea celebrated their 3-3 draw with West Brom.
United celebrated the 3-2 win at Southampton in 2012.

But the current players must not celebrate a comeback win because their manager is Ole.

Ok.

patrickmuf:
Bro, it's not what Ole did with Molde that gave him the United job but his status at the club and it's what is making many folks hold back from criticizing him like they did Mourinho, Van Gaal and Moyes...

I am certain eyebrows will be raised if Manchester United appointed the coach of Copenhagen or Midtylland to replace Ole, even you will question the sanity of Ed regardless of whether Midtylland won the Danish league which is clearly stronger than the Norwegian league...Ole's legend status is the only reason why the class of 92 who somewhat control the media space have held back from lashing out on him...

Also, since the success of Pep with Barcelona and Zidane with Real, most top teams are looking within when searching for a coach. It's the reason why Chelsea went for Lampard, Juventus with Pirlo and Manchester United with Ole...

Soo much miseducations in one post
Very very apt

Karleb:
United fans ehn?

Had we signed another coach aside OGS I'm sure by now the argument will be about why we did.

If he had come in and didn't perform, we would have demanded for more and when it isn't forthcoming, we'd have called for his head...

If you're not productive in your place of work after being provided with all you need to be productive, your manager will fire you. It's what it is...

I believe relegating a team or keeping a relegation-threatened team up is not an accurate litmus test for determining managerial competency.

Jurgen Klopp relegated Mainz so the consensus must be that he is a really shitty manager innit?

Using the Cardiff relegation as a stick to beat Ole with is a misnomer same as you wouldn't want Big Sam managing United just cause he kept Everton up.

LostMyZeal:



Ofcourse they would have done a lot more damage

Oh...you wanna play down the fact that when they were on transition in that game, they looked more dangerous or the fact that they bossed the first half

Both teams missed chances tho but it could have been a more balanced game with their 2 players participating

Not having your goal scorer in a game definitely has an effect

alright

patrickmuf:
I bet you marked Aston Villa out for relegation last season...

Crystal Palace appointed Roy Hodgson and avoided the drop...

West Ham beat United at Old Trafford while Fergie was still here to escape relegation when it looked certain they'd go down...

West Ham at some point last season looked destined for the drop...

You can't point to their league position because their coach buckled up and they gave it a go hence their continued stay in the EPL...Ole failed with Cardiff.

In your first paragraph you mentioned Fergie and made reference to the Scottish league for being just as lowly rated...What Fergie achieved with Aberdeen was stuff of legend, he broke the old firm stranglehold on the league by winning the Scottish league with Aberdeen and not stopping, he did it in Europe beating the very best...Don't compare or contrast Fergie with Aberdeen and Ole with Molde...

Nitpicking events, I never said it isn't happening, I said how often does it happen. You nitpicking different events from different years means it doesn't happen often.
My post about Sir Alex was in reference to my earlier post about us hiring a coach so far he has the CV. Ole won back to back leagues with Molde despite them never winning the trophy before, don't know how I can't compare both.

KingAlabi:


Your not getting my point bro

I am not saying it was his record at Molde that give him the job, hell I never knew ole was a manager till he was appointed as caretaker.

You talked about his records at Cardiff and United and I just said you didn't consider what he did at Molde which was where he was before coming to United.

His record at Molde means nothing.

There are many mediocre managers winning mediocre titles in mediocre leagues. It does not prove that they are anything but mediocre.

Ole has been mediocre so far in terms of tactics and training but he is a good man manager and he has a number of good players at his disposal. Furthermore he has been better (or luckier) than the previous managers in the transfer market.

patrickmuf:
Moyes was faced with the responsibility of living up to the high standard Fergie set whilst working with a naive Ed at the time so, it's no wonder we failed on all fronts...

The pressure on Ole isn't quite the same as years of underperformance has somewhat lowered the expectation in and around Old Trafford...It's no wonder some of you still hold brief for him (mediocrity finally setting in)...

I repeat, what Ole did with Molde is inconsequential as far as Manchester United is concerned. His legend Status earned him the job. It could have been him or any other former legend of the club with any bit of coaching experience...

So did the standard reduce with Mourinho??

If ole doesn't live up to what is expected he will be sacked just like Mourinho

Below is ole and Moyes full season at old Trafford

One is an experienced manager with everton

The other a Norwegian PE teacher

Give accolades to who it due

KingAlabi:
This why we never fully attack rashford yet

Make person drop martial stats abeg

Rashford, despite his erroneous decision making, still provides goals and assists. But you see that Martial ehn... na Glo network.

afrodoc2:


His record at Molde means nothing.

There are many mediocre managers winning mediocre titles in mediocre leagues. It does not prove that they are anything but mediocre.

Ole has been mediocre so far in terms of tactics and training but he is a good man manager and he has a number of good players at his disposal. Furthermore he has been better (or luckier) than the previous managers in the transfer market.

Can we also say his Cardiff stints means nothing

As far as I know Cardiff is a mediocre team just like molde

But we all pay attention because one got relegated and the other won the so called Norwegian league

melodyogonna:

Nitpicking events, I never said it isn't happening, I said how often does it happen. You nitpicking different events from different years means it doesn't happen often.
My post about Sir Alex was in reference to my earlier post about us hiring a coach so far he has the CV. Ole won back to back leagues with Molde despite them never winning the trophy before, don't know how I can't compare both.

Celtic and Ranger were and remain the dominant force in Scotland so winning the league title with Aberdeen and not stopping, doing it in Europe outweighs whatever Ole did with Molde...

Leyqute:


Rashford, despite his erroneous decision making, still provides goals and assists. But you see that Martial ehn... na Glo network.

Na why I dey butcher am

Nothing to hold hands for im case

melodyogonna:

If the coach has the CV why not? Sir Alex was hired from the Scottish League or whatever it's called. Ole wasn't outrightly hired btw, incase you forgot.

Winning the Norwegian league is actually important, especially since they've not won it for some time until then, winning it B2B is even more impressive, shows he doesn't have weak mentality over winning stuffs like one very good coach we know.

What do you mean Cardiff's position is irrelevant? Haha, this is funny

how often does that happen?

Ole actually gave them their first league title

KingAlabi:

So did the standard reduce with Mourinho??

If ole doesn't live up to what is expected he will be sacked just like Mourinho

Below is ole and Moyes full season at old Trafford

One is an experienced manager with everton

The other a Norwegian PE teacher

Give accolades to who it due

Did you not read where I explained the circumstances surrounding Moyes failures? Ed was new to the job and his naivety was glaring...Never has the club been more embarrassed in the transfer market...

Moyes came in when the pressure was high compared to now. People couldn't imagine that we were not winning the league or runners up hence the call for his head. Now, a 3rd place finish is celebrated...

patrickmuf:
Ed once again showed his naivety by giving him a permanent job before the end of the season no thanks to Ferdinand, Neville and the likes, even us as fans... After our catastrophic decline that season, do you honestly think Ed would've given him the permanent job had he been a little patient? I think not...

Ever since that time, it's been a couple of wins and then disappointment sets in for the club...Where goes the consistency we want from the team?

We were deceived by his wins as caretaker
Sure

What ole sincerely lacks now is consistency

ChristineC:
agenda is magnifying inconsequential stuff. everything I typed there is reality.
Pickford and Pope are ahead of him. if Pickford is politics (not sure what you mean - sounds like agenda tho), what of Pope?

Pope is better than dean for me

Hence I say it political that Pickford is still the current number 1

ChristineC:
the same Hasenhutl that was hopping like a frog right on pitch after Obafemi scored a late equalizer for 1-1; again ***drum rolls*** through a set piece.
some are suggesting he takes the United job too. the set piece and inshallah merchant

Last season someone suggested Chris wilder is better than our PE teacher

KingAlabi:


Ole actually gave them their first league title

Yea googled it now, don't know why someone would just sweep that under the carpet

KingAlabi:


Can we also say his Cardiff stints means nothing

As far as I know Cardiff is a mediocre team just like molde

But we all pay attention because one got relegated and the other won the so called Norwegian league

I am interested in his record at Manchester United.

Whatever good or bad he did before he got here is for his own pocket.

At Manchester United he has shown decent man management skills but questionable ability as a trainer and as a tactician.

The results and the quality of football is not up to the quality of footballers at his disposal.

patrickmuf:
I bet you marked Aston Villa out for relegation last season...

Crystal Palace appointed Roy Hodgson and avoided the drop...

West Ham beat United at Old Trafford while Fergie was still here to escape relegation when it looked certain they'd go down...

West Ham at some point last season looked destined for the drop...

You can't point to their league position because their coach buckled up and they gave it a go hence their continued stay in the EPL...Ole failed with Cardiff.

In your first paragraph you mentioned Fergie and made reference to the Scottish league for being just as lowly rated...What Fergie achieved with Aberdeen was stuff of legend, he broke the old firm stranglehold on the league by winning the Scottish league with Aberdeen and not stopping, he did it in Europe beating the very best...Don't compare or contrast Fergie with Aberdeen and Ole with Molde...

Before ole how many titles did molde have ??

Ole didnt win anything in Europe but he sure did this with a team that won't win league one

patrickmuf:
If he had come in and didn't perform, we would have demanded for more and when it isn't forthcoming, we'd have called for his head...

If you're not productive in your place of work after being provided with all you need to be productive, your manager will fire you. It's what it is...

I'm interested here, what was your target for the team last season?

patrickmuf:
Did you not read where I explained the circumstances surrounding Moyes failures? Ed was new to the job and his naivety was glaring...Never has the club been more embarrassed in the transfer market...

Moyes came in when the pressure was high compared to now. People couldn't imagine that we were not winning the league or runners up hence the call for his head. Now, a 3rd place finish is celebrated...

Can you mention the squad of players Moyes inherited, that were freaking title winning the season before no matter how you look at it. And landed in 6th with a squad that was feared in the premier league.

This is just hilarious

DeadPresidents:
I believe relegating a team or keeping a relegation-threatened team up is not an accurate litmus test for determining managerial competency.

Jurgen Klopp relegated Mainz so the consensus must be that he is a really shitty manager innit?

Using the Cardiff relegation as a stick to beat Ole with is a misnomer same as you wouldn't want Big Sam managing United just cause he kept Everton up.

Away from that, how has he fared at United?

afrodoc2:


I am interested in his record at Manchester United.

Whatever good or bad he did before he got here is for his own pocket.

At Manchester United he has shown decent man management skills but questionable ability as a trainer and as a tactician.

The results and the quality of football is not up to the quality of footballers at his disposal.

His record at United ?

His is the fastest united coach to reach 50wins.
And many more .......


Last season we expected a top 4 finish

He gave us that.

What are our expectations this season ?

KingAlabi:


Can you mention the squad of players Moyes inherited, that were freaking title winning the season before no matter how you look at it. And landed in 6th with a squad that was feared in the premier league.

This is just hilarious

Fergie held things together...I recall how most folks thought Fergie was selfish for not fixing our midfield for years (Sneijder saga)...

Vidic was aging as was Fergie. Our midfield was average forget what Fergie managed to achieve with that midfield...

Abeg make we try give credit where it is due