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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by davidnazee: 2:13am On Dec 02, 2020 |
babtoundey: Oba means King in Benin.. Its not a generic word for ruler.. it simply means king.. but in Yoruba, Oba is probably a generic word for ruler not "king".. Yorubas started to use it to mean king after copying it from Benin.. Oni means king to the Ifes, Alafin means king to Oyos, Awujale is King to Ijebus.. |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by TAO11(f): 3:43am On Dec 02, 2020 |
davidnazee:CRAP! Benin didn’t use the word “Oba” prior to 1867 per your Bini brothers’ logic. However, written record of Yorubas using “Oba” exists in 1845 and have been provided on this thread. Moreover, a Yoruba dictionary - even old ones - will confirm to you that “Oba” (as a Yoruba word) simply means “King”, etc. ![]() —————————— However, “Oba” doesn’t mean “King” in Bini language. Otherwise, Edoid people would have more than one “Oba” since there is more than one “King” among Edoid people. Anyways, your Bini dictionary already exposed you all. No literal meaning exists for “Oba” in your Bini dictionary. Your Bini dictionary already confirmed that “Oba” is a word borrowed from the Yoruba language. So, your fraud attempt is too late, all your brothers have already been disgraced. —————————— Like I advised you earlier, go curl up in your regular corner, begin reading from page 2; and before page 20, trust me, you must have cried yourself to sleep as always. cc: babtoundey 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by TAO11(f): 3:56am On Dec 02, 2020 |
Summary of what has went down so far — this is for sane folks to find handy: (A) No Pre-1800 Ife/Benin Connection? — DEBUNKED: https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/9#96323798 (B) Benin Owns Lagos? — DEBUNKED: https://www.nairaland.com/6286709/ijebu-vs-jebusite/1#96593783 (C) Yoruba Founded In 1808? — DEBUNKED https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/25#96567759 (D)Benin Owns The Word “Oba”? — DEBUNKED https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/15#96513655 Peace! cc: babtoundey, Balogunodua 12 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Balogunodua(m): 8:04am On Dec 02, 2020 |
davidnazee:You just kept disgracing yourself..... ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Balogunodua(m): 8:12am On Dec 02, 2020 |
AreaFada2:Lolzzz .. ![]() Edo dullard trying to sound funny ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by AreaFada2: 8:53am On Dec 02, 2020 |
babtoundey:Is there anything you people don't come up with? Time machine, teleporting Oduduwa from heaven, mountain, chain climber, from Yemen, Sudan, Israel, Egypt, etc. Funny enough one of your self acclaimed over educated low IQ goons claimed Obatala. Unless you guys have far worse IQ and memory than I thought. It's not even up to a year here. Surprising especially because you recycle yourselves with different monikers here. Now you people feign not knowing you claimed obatala, ayaba as oba's wife as evidence. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by babtoundey(m): 9:58am On Dec 02, 2020 |
AreaFada2: Instead of writing this nonsense, shouldn't you have come up with the meaning of Oba in your native language? O ya, the man with hundred raise-to-power minus one IQ, tell us what Oba means. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by babtoundey(m): 10:10am On Dec 02, 2020 |
davidnazee: Oba means king.. that is an after thought. we all know it is. But you deceive no one other than yourself. The meaning of Oba in the in the dictionary disagrees with you. Yoruba copied and you could not even prove it. On this same thread, Tao has provided incontrovertible evidences that show Oba is a Yoruba word that crept into Edo lexicon through Oranmiyan. You have been charged to provide the evidence of you leader being named and called oba prior to certain period of time in history. You have failed woefully in doing that. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by girlFlavor(f): 11:11am On Dec 02, 2020 |
AreaFada2:My class colleague once explain to me that they are the same. That it was because the government divided the country geo politically 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by gregyboy(m): 12:23pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
RedboneSmith: I agree with this, Samuk we are working with earliest records, if you any early record contrary to this bring it foward |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by gregyboy(m): 12:38pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
TAO11: Spamming, If you want to spam i will do it better than you i hope you know that |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by TAO11(f): 12:45pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
AreaFada2:@babtoundey, in addition to the fact that he is the dullard-in-chief 1 of Benin kingdom, what area-dullard didn’t mention here is that: For several months now, he is yet to make up his mind on where his ancestors (and their Kings’ progenitors ) originated from. As in, he hasn’t concluded on which of the following is his final answer: (A) Ife according to the “official” Benin account. (B) Heaven via chains according to the Benin mythological account. (C) Egypt according to Egharevba’s 1953 edition. (D) The last born son of God Almighty (and his wife) according to Omonoba Erediauwa (E) All of the above. (F) None of the above. My Benin subjects, you all should help me identify which of these is the correct account of your origin. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by AreaFada2: 1:02pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
babtoundey:Hahahahaha. So you still believe the bullshit that Oba is Yoruba native word. ![]() Yoruba that Islamic Jihadists only baptised with Yoruba barely 200 years ago. Welcome to the lecture hall. I have educated your fellow goons here since 2011. You are a new generation student. Etrusen, gregyboy, Etinosa, dividnaze, samuk and other "dozent" will equally educate you. I know you guys with this ego of "we are the sufferstacated overeducated people in the universe". Just dump that bullpoo toga in the poo gutters of Bariga before coming here. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by gregyboy(m): 1:16pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
Balogunodua: How many times do have to say it Is the answer not obvious already, You want me to tell you the meaning of oba in benin housewife Ok mr man the meaning of oba is kingin benin How does that solve the ownership First of all are you from ife to even qualify yourself in this debate There is no esan defending benin here |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by gregyboy(m): 1:19pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
Balogunodua: We are not yoruba are yet to prove ife-oyo father and son relationship through historical records Neither yet to prove benin ife relationship with historical records Youre not from ife wjy are you crying morecthan the berived |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by gregyboy(m): 1:28pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
TAO11: Bemin vave yoruba those words to yorubas when the ventured into thier lands and instalm themselves kings |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by TAO11(f): 1:31pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
AreaFada2:Hahaha! Denial mode has been activated full-blown in Benin Kingdom. ![]() ![]() Read from the link below to notice how the heavy wind blew open the fowl’s yn-ansh: ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/15#96513655 Moreover, although you clearly have no iota of clue as per what you intend on “Yoruba”, aka “Yarriba” (in Arab and Hausa pronunciation), and aka “Youriba” (in European pronunciation); aren’t you aware that the actual baptizing took place early in your history when an Ife prince named an entire ethno-linguistic sub-group into the name they’ve clung to till date as a people: Ubinu — Ibinu — Ibini — Bini — Beny — Benin. More than that, didn’t the same Yorubas march into your Benin Kingdom and maimed and slave-raided without any restraint? Yes, they did and this should remind you of the exploits of the Yoruba military commander Aje (from Ibadan). Notice that unlike your Benin accounts of alleged exploits, this account comes from your own people themselves as documented by the late R.E. Bradbury during his ethnographic field work among the Binis and Edo-speaking peoples. Lastly, one key thing which is very perceptible and very consistent in your comments (apart from blatant lies) is your sheer jealousy for Yoruba people’s education. ![]() It drives you insane and you couldn’t even hide it. But Yorubas for sure aren’t the source of your illiteracy — you should always be reminded of that. cc: babtoundey 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Balogunodua(m): 1:39pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
gregyboy: Hahahaha....... ![]() Now it's kingpin not shining Seki again ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Balogunodua(m): 1:42pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
gregyboy: I can feel your pain... ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by ItooWorWor(m): 2:43pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
![]() Yoruba Lagba..... ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by gregyboy(m): 4:20pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
Balogunodua: Shinny seki according to you is the etymology of the world oba Oba means king I have answered your stupid question Answer mine How did the word get to benin the word oba Lemme sit down and laugh for your response |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by gregyboy(m): 4:22pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
TAO11: The word Yoruba is from a Senegalese country This smellying mouth don hikack am Like say the word yoruba existed during the ibn bututta era |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by gregyboy(m): 4:28pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
AreaFada2 Sarah20A Etinosa1234 Davidnazee Prolog Ghostwon You guys should back down let me face both of them alone TAO11 and her fellow dullard Back down, all of you Please back down i will make sure i make them cry, because right now they are using you guys to troll and spam the thread u necessarily |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by babtoundey(m): 4:48pm On Dec 02, 2020 |
TAO11: G. Birnin-Kebbi F. Igala nation Those things are just lost and totally confused. 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by LegendHero(m): 2:15am On Dec 03, 2020 |
gregyboy: Lol. It got to a point baba had to start begging his brethren to back down coz he knows they’ve started speaking off key. Tao Tao the legend is really dealing with you Benin guys like it’s some sort of war. Tao carried an armored tank to a fight of machetes. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by gregyboy(m): 6:27am On Dec 03, 2020 |
LegendHero: The mouth of a coward is like a two head sword If talk could win wars i bet the yorubas would have made history in the past instead of stealing one today |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by samuk: 8:29am On Dec 03, 2020 |
gregyboy: Wow. This people already wake in the morning and realised their ancestors achieved nothing of note in history and you are just rubbing salts to their injuries. 1. Those that can afford to travel outside Nigeria are always reminded of Benin greatness when they flyover the Bight of Benin, if the pilot doesn't announce it, it is displayed of the flights geographical location. Where is Ife River or Bight of Ife located? 2. The Europeans daily marvelled at thousands of great Benin artworks across Europe, America and Asia Museums. They have become a permanent ambassadors and reminder of our greatness. 3. The Benin moat once appeared in the Guinness book of world records as the greatest man made structure on earth. At the time it was built, there was nothing in Europe and America to compare it with. Where is Ife wall or moat or have any Ife achievements beat world records. 4. Benin Republic, a country claimed to have Yoruba descendants have to choose Benin after bight of Benin as a name for their country. What greater honour could there be. Where is the country named after Ife? Apart from ranting on the internet, there is absolutely nothing of international worth to point to. They relishes the fact that the Benin even allowed themselves to be mentioned side by side with them. These people history started in the 1800s after the creation on Yoruba in 1808 for crying loud. Benin history has nothing in common with these guys who are still under the spiritual leadership of the Sultan of Sokoto. The question is after the abolition of slavery and creation of Yoruba in 1808 by the white man to accommodate free slaves and natives, are these people spiritually freed? Where is the role of the Ooni in their spiritual life? Those that have nothing to show as historical achievements always pick on those above them to shine. You will hardly see Yoruba debate history with any other tribes in Nigeria, they only troll Benin for relevance. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by TAO11(f): 12:14pm On Dec 03, 2020 |
samuk:Samuk the fear-fear LIAR! ![]() I will so disgrace you all over Nairaland that you will have no choice but to do solemnly swear to never ever lie again. ![]() ![]() ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/33#96641344 https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/31#96605649 Cheers! 6 Likes 4 Shares
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Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 12:35pm On Dec 03, 2020 |
Quoting a paper and hiding it from scrutini: 1 Like |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by TAO11(f): 12:41pm On Dec 03, 2020 |
Haha! E be like say this one enter die! ![]() ![]() However, I already see a half-smart agitated Benin below who is going off tangent. ![]() ![]() Anyways — H. L. Roth (1903) QUOTED those words from the notes of a EUrOpEaN traveller who had visited Benin and the Yoruba country before the destruction of Benin. Haha ![]() ————— Wahala for who dumb think say e smart. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() www.nairaland.com/attachments/12782952_63f9528d421847f99f97f546a91913f5_jpeg_jpeg4fe7b90b396970666f4b74fb57ffbc35 Also, **scrutiny ![]() ![]() 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Why Ikwerres Are Not Igbo - The Logic Behind It by Nobody: 12:45pm On Dec 03, 2020 |
A person quoting a paper and hiding it from scrutini is a crook. Unless the person provides access to the paper, just ignore it. Also may I recall that Benin city was burnt to the ground and looted by the british in 1897 and 1903 is just 6 years after 1897 ? But the yoruba never trie to make sense. How people can be so deluded is beyond me. |
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