TheGuyFromHR:


Lol, save your money.
I was once sent to work for my company abroad for a short period. One night I overdid the happy hour thing and lost my temporary ID card. For some reason I wasn't issued another for a very long time (almost until I was leaving) and had to use my passport to identify myself everyday. I carried that green piece of 32 worthless sheets of paper around in my front/back/inner pocket for some weeks, rough-handled it and got it twisted, sat on, bent, you-name it, and I still dey use am now.

Bourne007:
One of Naija's fallacy .. I've heard that before and never used one

Thanks guys.

---

I can see some back and forth has ensued from my question. Lol

I feel the right term to use should be lesser value compared to some countries. Abi how una see am?

iCode2:
Thanks guys.

---

I can see some back and forth has ensued from my question. Lol

I feel the right term to use should be lesser value compared to some countries. Abi how una see am?

As a corporate entity, Nigeria is, sadly, almost worthless.
And when I say sadly, I mean that, for I deeply regret the greatness it could have had and now will never have.
I was born in Lagos, am from the east, schooled across the major regions, ended up in a cross-ethnic marriage and have generally had the opportunity to travel and spend time across the country and the sub-region both for work and leisure and my conclusion is that this entity, as is, is unworkable, and generally worthless to its peoples.

I don't necessarily blame Buhari for this, he's just one in a long line of sub-par leaders who presided over our undershooting of our great - and yes, manifest - destiny. Arguably among the worst, but just one.
(Or two, if you count both his outings against him).

erico2k2:

That yeye place wey visitors nor fit park car. was at canary wharf 2 days ago

Shey dem no allow you pay fine sha

mimilyrics:
E be like.

Better ooo Make person feel at home small o

Swiftlee:

Shey dem no allow you pay fine sha

me ke, I go park 4 Canning town

Mamatukwas:


Hehehe, have you forgotten that my weak attempt at vexing for the bros that came and wanted to divorce his wife soon after landing for refusal to ‘clean’ the house while pregnant amongst other indiscretions ; was definitely on the list of most annoying things I’d seen on this thread that year.

Oooh! Yes! I had made respect for many of the ladies here after that saga

erico2k2:

me ke, I go park 4 Canning town

Carry leg complete the remaining one, abi you go hire bicycle

TheGuyFromHR:


Lol, not entirely correct.
As an "international form of identification", a passport is indeed solely intended for travel between countries.
Of course, some countries allow travel on other forms of identification, but when one goes to apply for a passport, the assumed intention is that borders are to be crossed therewith.

It’s precisely because it is a form of international identification, that it’s used for travel. So the primary reason for a passport is to identify yourself internationally, not to travel. Travelling is just an application of this ID. Applying for loans is an application. Creating a bank account is an application, etc. I can stay in my room in Nigeria and apply to open a bank account abroad, because of that ID.

Swiftlee:

Carry leg complete the remaining one, abi you go hire bicycle

E nor far nah, just to carry leg cross under that bridge 10 mins walk kpata kpata

Thank you. Yeah I am aware. So the 6months payment is quite funny, my sole Representative visa wasnt helpful because my employers are in Nigeria( they were a-bit uncomfortable with that and also the financial uncertainty, No thanks to covid) . I was given the option to pay 6 months (0ne month with Deposit Scheme, 4months for rent and they will keep two months, whenever i am leaving the two months will be paid back to me). It was a desperate one for me aha with a toddler, i jumped at it and I have a roof over my head. Trust me alot has changed in the rental market especially with Landlords, Kent landlords showed me serious pepper even with my Uncle trying to get the place for us, them no gree at all oo

missjekyll:


My dear Susom,it does look you have been had. they cannot collect advance rent in excess of 5 weeks rent.
The law changed in July 2019. I know you may not want to raise dust seeing how hard it was for you to get a place. But I m just putting it on record here.

Aphrodite007:


It’s precisely because it is a form of international identification, that it’s used for travel. So the primary reason for a passport is to identify yourself internationally, not to travel. Travelling is just an application of this ID. Applying for loans is an application. Creating a bank account is an application, etc. I can stay in my room in Nigeria and apply to open a bank account abroad, because of that ID.

Lol.
Again, not quite correct.
The passport came into use before you could use it as a form of cross-border identification without crossing any borders like in the example you mentioned.

Put differently - the passport's primary use is as a travel document; its use as a means of identification in domestic or international settings is purely secondary.

Susom:
Yeah I am aware. So the 6months payment is quite funny, my sole visa wasnt help because my employers are in Nigeria( they were abit uncomfortable with that and alao the uncertainty with COvid) . I was given the option to pay 6 months (0ne month with Deposit Scheme, 4months foe rent and they will keep two months, whenever i am leaving the two months will be paid back to me). It was a desperate one for me aha with a toddler, i jumped at it and I have a roof over my head. Trust me alot has changed in the rental market especially with Landlords.

And that's it.
Paying rent upfront is definitely not uncommon, here in Scotland for example, the law only specifies that such advance rent cannot exceed 6 months.
When I schooled here, I also had to pay rent upfront. So now coming with children, I knew the drill and during my househunting period I made 3 firm offers, each of which contained an offer to pay upfront rent, and two of which ultimately came down to negotiations over how many months of upfront rent.

Hi, I know someone that might be interested around mid jan. I have sent you a pm.

Irenenwaka:


hello Susom, no sorry... i live london, the room i wanna rent is in east london precisely.

TheGuyFromHR:


As a corporate entity, Nigeria is, sadly, almost worthless.
And when I say sadly, I mean that, for I deeply regret the greatness it could have had and now will never have.
I was born in Lagos, am from the east, schooled across the major regions, ended up in a cross-ethnic marriage and have generally had the opportunity to travel and spend time across the country and the sub-region both for work and leisure and my conclusion is that this entity, as is, is unworkable, and generally worthless to its peoples.

I don't necessarily blame Buhari for this, he's just one in a long line of sub-par leaders who presided over our undershooting of our great - and yes, manifest - destiny. Arguably among the worst, but just one.
(Or two, if you count both his outings against him).

Nigeria’s worth, worthiness, greatness and sense of somebodiness is in its people Sir.

Its in the fact that it has produced the likes of Wole Soyinka, Chimamanda Adichie, Emmanuela, and Kanu Nwankwo.

It’s in the fact that it produced you sir who left Nigeria and are now thriving well enough in this country that your company sends you abroad to represent them.

Nigeria is worthy precisely because of a platform like this, where faceless Nigerians who do not know each other are willing to help, advise, drag and still love on one another. It’s in the fact that no matter how annoying our history is, when you’re on that immigration queue in any country and you spy that green booklet, you immediately know ‘I’m not alone’!

Nigeria is not worthless. It produced young women and men who just few months ago were willing to put their lives on the line for the future of the country and indeed died doing so.

All shade aside, I’m really hoping for the sake of your children that you think about what your mindset will do to them. No matter how far you go, you will ALWAYS be Nigerian as will be your kids. Your spawn should not grow up thinking that the country of their fathers birth is Worthless. If it was how did their Father turn out so well? And produce what I’m sure are or will be great kids?

Let’s not throw the baby away with the bath water please. There is a reason why since people like TD Jakes found out he is Igbo, he not only shouts it from the rooftop he almost exclusively wears only Naija attire to preach. People who are deep KNOW that your roots matter and you should never use your mouth to curse what produced you because you invariably are cursing yourself.

If Wisdom is know by her children, Nigeria is know by hers and it’s is enough for us to cling unto till we get the rest of what we deserve.

Again, no shade and if i offended you at any point, I apologize. But I truly hope you think about how you got here and more importantly the impact it will have if you pass this mindset to those coming after you.

Ciao.

Mamatukwas:


Nigeria’s worth, worthiness, greatness and sense of somebodiness is in its people Sir.

Its in the fact that it has produced the likes of Wole Soyinka, Chimamanda Adichie, Emmanuela, and Kanu Nwankwo.

It’s in the fact that it produced you sir who left Nigeria and are now thriving well enough in this country that your company sends you abroad to represent them.

Nigeria is worthy precisely because of a platform like this, where faceless Nigerians who do not know each other are willing to help, advise, drag and still love on one another. It’s in the fact that no matter how annoying our history is, when you’re on that immigration queue in any country and you spy that green booklet, you immediately know ‘I’m not alone’!

Nigeria is not worthless. It produced young women and men who just few months ago were willing to put their lives on the line for the future of the country and indeed died doing so.

All shade aside, I’m really hoping for the sake of your children that you think about what your mindset will do to them. No matter how far you go, you will ALWAYS be Nigerian as will be your kids. Your spawn should not grow up thinking that the country of their fathers birth is Worthless. If it was how did their Father turn out so well? And produce what I’m sure are or will be great kids?

Let’s not throw the baby away with the bath water please. There is a reason why since people like TD Jakes found out he is Igbo, he not only shouts it from the rooftop he almost exclusively wears only Naija attire to preach. People who are deep KNOW that your roots matter and you should never use your mouth to curse what produced you because you invariably are cursing yourself.

If Wisdom is know by her children, Nigeria is know by hers and it’s is enough for us to cling unto till we get the rest of what we deserve.

Again, no shade and if i offended you at any point, I apologize. But I truly hope you think about how you got here and more importantly the impact it will have if you pass this mindset to those coming after you.

Ciao.

Firstly, I hope you don't go about referring to the children of people you do know in person as their spawn.
Secondly, no offence was taken, this is an anonymous forum and you are entitled to your opinion, as much as I disagree with it.
Thirdly, we Nigerians, did not create Nigeria. And Nigeria, in its current incarnation, is not working for its peoples. I'm not a separatist or a secessionist not because I think Nigeria is holy and should remain undivided, but simply because I do not think this can be done without bloodshed now, and that would affect us all. But the creation Nigeria is not working for us, except the few in the Aso Rock empire and this fact is to be recognised.

Lastly, in fairness, Nigeria was once good to me. I got a reasonably good and cheap education, and when the economy was good, I got good jobs without "knowing" anyone. I'm among the group of people who took a (now regretted) bet on Nigeria back in the early 2000s when I could have availed of the post-study program then. That was because Nigeria, love it or hate it, was home. So I'm not one of those who rants endlessly about Nigeria and how they want to leave - I've actually once made a choice of that country over another, arguably a better place to live. The UK's economy was booming under New Labour then and funny African name or not, I could have gotten something good in terms of employment. Or at least a red, abi blue passport.

And I left Nigeria fairly late in life too, I hung on till I was forced out, so to speak. What my children will think about Nigeria (or any successor entity) is really none of my concern - I will pass on the truth to them, that it was my home, I loved living there and growing up there, but eventually it became unliveable and unworkable and I left.

TheGuyFromHR:


Lol.
Again, not quite correct.
The passport came into use before you could use it as a form of cross-border identification without crossing any borders like in the example you mentioned.

Put differently - the passport's primary use is as a travel document; its use as a means of identification in domestic or international settings is purely secondary.

Why do you think it is allowed for travel? Because another country recognises a passport due to it being an international form of IDENTIFICATION.

As far as you need to declare who you are outside your nationality, you need an international passport. “Travel” is an application; not the reason that passports were made. Once you’re identified, you can then cross borders if you have a valid visa or right to entry.

Further proof of my explanation is the fact the the BRP is now separate from the passport. When you get to a border officer, they look at your passport to identify you, then look at your BRP to allow you entry. They don’t use your passport to allow you entry.

TheGuyFromHR:


Firstly, I hope you don't go about referring to the children of people you do know in person as their spawn.
Secondly, no offence was taken, this is an anonymous forum and you are entitled to your opinion, as much as I disagree with it.
Thirdly, we Nigerians, did not create Nigeria. And Nigeria, in its current incarnation, is not working for its peoples. I'm not a separatist or a secessionist not because I think Nigeria is holy and should remain undivided, but simply because I do not think this can be done without bloodshed now, and that would affect us all. But the creation Nigeria is not working for us, except the few in the Aso Rock empire and this fact is to be recognised.

Lastly, in fairness, Nigeria was once good to me. I got a reasonably good and cheap education, and when the economy was good, I got good jobs without "knowing" anyone. I'm among the group of people who took a (now regretted) bet on Nigeria back in the early 2000s when I could availed of the post-study program then. That was because Nigeria, love it or hate it, was home. So I'm not one of those who rants endlessly about Nigeria and how they want to leave - I've actually once made a choice of that country over another, arguably a better place to live. The UK's economy was booming under New Labour then and funny African name or not, I could have gotten something good in terms of employment. Or at least a red, abi blue passport.

And I left Nigeria fairly late in life too, I hung on till I was forced out, so to speak. What my children will think about Nigeria (or any successor entity) is really none of my concern - I will pass on the truth to them, that it was my home, I loved living there and growing up there, but eventually it became unliveable and unworkable and I left.

Most of what you have said from the beginning supports what I’ve been saying so I’ll leave it at that. And yes I do use Spawn in the context of multiple seed to people I know. It’s not an issue.

Lastly although you might correctly argue that Nigerians did not create the Geographical Entity that came to be Nigeria, my brother for a long time now, it is us (Nigerians) that have been making the bed we are lying on. We are the creators of the Nigeria we see now. The earlier we own our issues the better. It is well.

Mamatukwas:


Most of what you have said from the beginning supports what I’ve been saying so I’ll leave it at that. And yes I do use Spawn in the context of multiple seed to people I know. It’s not an issue.

Lastly although you might correctly argue that Nigerians did not create the Geographical Entity that came to be Nigeria, my brother for a long time now, it is us (Nigerians) that have been making the bed we are lying on. We are the creators of the Nigeria we see now. The earlier we own our issues the better. It is well.

The fact that Nigeria['s passport] is worthless now doesn't mean it has always been so. I never said or implied that.

TheGuyFromHR:



The fact that Nigeria['s passport] is worthless now doesn't mean it has always been so. I never said or implied that.

You’re still missing the point but you’re coming closer The fact that you could use the passport as a means of identification in a foreign land and can still use it to travel now means that it is not worthless. If that’s the ONLY thing it has ever done for you, it is something.

Mamatukwas:


You’re still missing the point but you’re coming closer The fact that you could use the passport as a means of identification in a foreign land and can still use it to travel now means that it is not worthless. If that’s the ONLY thing it has ever done for you, it is something.

It's still worthless.
I have other pictures of my face with my name and signature appended thereon.
It's like a human being eating grass - it fills your belly, but humans can't digest cellulose, so its worthless to you, so its not food and one will die eventually on a grass diet.

Mamatukwas:


You’re right is definitely your opinion. I just think it’s ironic to be openly gaining Worth from a document you call worthless. I also think it’s unfortunate that your view of the worthiness of the passport has been distilled simply to how many countries you can access with it.

Not trying to change your mind, just calling out the fact that I think your reasoning is flawed. Of course it’s my opinion as well. Cheers.

I love your diplomatic way of commenting.

TheGuyFromHR:


It's still worthless.
I have other pictures of my face with my name and signature appended thereon.
It's like a human being eating grass - it fills your belly, but humans can't digest cellulose, so its worthless to you, so its not food and one will die eventually on a grass diet.

Yes but the grass can keep you alive long enough to change your diet to something more suitable whereas if you had no grass you would be sure of instant starvation and death.

You say with your mouth it’s worthless, but with your hands find uses for it. Forgive me for taking your words with a large dose of salt.

Amidst all d argument,kent nd london jolliment please i av naira to exchange for who ever is interested @600/£1

TheGuyFromHR:


It's still worthless.
I have other pictures of my face with my name and signature appended thereon.
It's like a human being eating grass - it fills your belly, but humans can't digest cellulose, so its worthless to you, so its not food and one will die eventually on a grass diet.

famzynet:


I love your diplomatic way of commenting.

Thank you

erico2k2:

E nor far nah, just to carry leg cross under that bridge 10 mins walk kpata kpata

No stress at all

Mamatukwas:


Hehehe, have you forgotten that my weak attempt at vexing for the bros that came and wanted to divorce his wife soon after landing for refusal to ‘clean’ the house while pregnant amongst other indiscretions ; was definitely on the list of most annoying things I’d seen on this thread that year.

. ......

I wonder how they are doing. Hopefully all the dust has settled and happier times . Cant remember the handle name

People, can you please create another thread on whether Nigeria is worthless or not. You will not convinced the other person on your thoughts.

A things worth is based on the value to place on it. For thishrguy Nigeria is worthless, for some of us it still has some worth and hopefully things change. We only appeal to those with the opinion that the country is worthless to please help us not continue to bring Nigeria down for those of us who still hope not to even drag her down the more by posting these narratives on socialedia we don't know who is reading and the more damage it might cause.

In other news cold is catching in the Aberdeen, what do you guys do to keep warm? Childcare is expensive.

For the guy looking for Nigeria food, go and marry. Quickly signs out and deactivates account before our strong women come after me.

Susom:
Thank you. Yeah I am aware. So the 6months payment is quite funny, my sole Representative visa wasnt helpful because my employers are in Nigeria( they were a-bit uncomfortable with that and also the financial uncertainty, No thanks to covid) . I was given the option to pay 6 months (0ne month with Deposit Scheme, 4months for rent and they will keep two months, whenever i am leaving the two months will be paid back to me). It was a desperate one for me aha with a toddler, i jumped at it and I have a roof over my head. Trust me alot has changed in the rental market especially with Landlords, Kent landlords showed me serious pepper even with my Uncle trying to get the place for us, them no gree at all oo

I just realised moving as a student with family no be beans . I have been searching for a place for more than 3weeks at Leicester to no avail. Now we are back to offering 6months rent to even be considered at all.

The rental house market is competitive is major cities and a LL or agent would happily pick permanent and paid employment over anything else. Maybe Covid made it worse who knows.

Ontop of the 6months rent, they are still requesting UK homeowner guarantor.

Swiftlee:

E14 is the zone.
How have you been sir?

E14

deept:
People, can you please create another thread on whether Nigeria is worthless or not. You will not convinced the other person on your thoughts.

A things worth is based on the value to place on it. For thishrguy Nigeria is worthless, for some of us it still has some worth and hopefully things change. We only appeal to those with the opinion that the country is worthless to please help us not continue to bring Nigeria down for those of us who still hope not to even drag her down the more by posting these narratives on socialedia we don't know who is reading and the more damage it might cause.

In other news cold is catching in the Aberdeen, what do you guys do to keep warm? Childcare is expensive.

For the guy looking for Nigeria food, go and marry. Quickly signs out and deactivates account before our strong women come after me.

Bro’s I’m married with kids, but my wife is not my cook... I can cook but I’m too busy hence the need to buy Naija food....

As for childcare matter we all dey inside same boat

Dear Sirs/Ma,

The recent CBN's fantastic policy on foreign remittance that has led in recent days to a significant and ongoing improvement in our treasured Naira kicks off today.

The policy entails that recipients back in Nigeria can receive the money in the currency it was sent - mostly dollars I would presume.

To enable members of this great family keep up to date with practices back home and take advantage of banks and international money transfer companies offering the best services, kindly update us with your experiences in real-time.

Please be kind enough to tell us of banks back in Nigeria and the location (branch or LGA or State depending on how evasive you want to be) not agreeing to such policies or forcing recipients to take Naira or asking for impossible documents and also IMTCs deceiving senders from here in the UK that recipients will receive forex when they will be sending Naira. Your real-time info will be necessary in guiding subsequent senders.

As at this morning I have tested 5 platforms - Ria, Western Union, moneyfex, radiantlife and Moneygram. Both Ria and Moneygram have the end cash in usd. Lets see how the others align asap. I shouldn't be filling in bank details of recipients. It should be just like old Western Union.

Welcome to better days!

Chukwuka16:
Dear Sirs/Ma,

The recent CBN's fantastic policy on foreign remittance that has led in recent days to a significant and ongoing improvement in our treasured Naira kicks off today.

The policy entails that recipients back in Nigeria can receive the money in the currency it was sent - mostly dollars I would presume.

To enable members of this great family keep up to date with practices back home and take advantage of banks and international money transfer companies offering the best services, kindly update us with your experiences in real-time.

Please be kind enough to tell us of banks back in Nigeria and the location (branch or LGA or State depending on how evasive you want to be) not agreeing to such policies or forcing recipients to take Naira or asking for impossible documents and also IMTCs deceiving senders from here in the UK that recipients will receive forex when they will be sending Naira. Your real-time info will be necessary in guiding subsequent senders.

As at this morning I have tested 5 platforms - Ria, Western Union, moneyfex, radiantlife and Moneygram. Both Ria and Moneygram have the end cash in usd. Lets see how the others align asap. I shouldn't be filling in bank details of recipients. It should be just like old Western Union.

Welcome to better days!

Finger cross that after one week we wont hear issing house say there no Forex to give out and force people to take it in naira ......

Message received from world remit today