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Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by gregyboy(m): 2:53pm On Dec 04, 2020 |
Balogunodua: You're not even base in your state Neither are you from ife, but oversabi i must defend yoruba See your profile following one of Buhari dogs bbq Guy You're one of the government yoruba dogs I pity your life
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Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by TAO11(f): 3:02pm On Dec 04, 2020 |
samuk:Dear @samuk AKA the fearful heartbroken Bini dullard who already lives his Trumpian denial as a coping mechanism; please find your nemesis below again as always:. ![]() (A) No Pre-1800 Ife/Benin Connection? — DEBUNKED: https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/9#96323798 (B) Benin Owns Lagos? — DEBUNKED: https://www.nairaland.com/6286709/ijebu-vs-jebusite/1#96593783 (C) Yoruba Founded In 1808? — DEBUNKED https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/25#96567759 (D)Benin Owns The Word “Oba”? — DEBUNKED https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/15#96513655 Kind Regards, Tao 11 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by Balogunodua(m): 3:26pm On Dec 04, 2020 |
gregyboy:Lolzzz... ![]() No I'm not an Edo miscreant who don't travel ![]() And your trolling Technics is weak ![]() ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by tollyboy5(m): 3:54pm On Dec 04, 2020 |
Balogunodua:That was my reason for creating that thread. But its anti ijebu comment I've been seeing I'll rather discuss with real ijebus not NL where some oyo people will claim they're also ijebu |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by gregyboy(m): 5:26pm On Dec 04, 2020 |
TAO11: Tao11 seems shy i would help her She brought this image below from a yoruba foreign author biller, blier is a foreign yoruba author one of her specialty is on ife history, jusy the way we have afc ryder a foreign author too who specializes on benin history I posted afc ryders work as my screenshot above him discrediting benin ife relationship On the othet hand biler has accepted and probably tries to find way to belive on the oral history benin and the yorubas have told about oduduwa sending his son oromiyan coming to benin, but one thing about blier is her desperation to connect both history even with illogical points or false point Now the images points out a benin sculpture found in ife, in bliers work, and yet when we check on net to find the details, or how it was found in ife we get lost, and seem non existing I have also begged tao11 to also share the direct referencing to the book or share the pdf to get further details she seems not to have replied me So its eithet Tao11 is desperate to falsefully connect both tribe or blier is desperate to connect them and sell her books Anyway you all can do the research yourself on that sculpture Am a free thinker if you dont mind Benin ife not yet debunked nether the title oba The title oba entered the yoruba lexicon through benin ventures into Eastern yoruba during its expansion, and soon diffused into all yorubas There is a parable in owo, that says, just as the oba n' idu commands respect on earth olodumare commands respect in heaven Despite interaction with eastern Yoruba they made a sizable contact with vast yoruba tribe too Benins supplied the atilaries used in the yoruba civil war of late 1800 If we are to mention benin influence on vast yoruba land it will too numerous to mention The yorubas always have the claim oromiyan came to establish the obaship stool on benin but when taken a deeper look into this history shows that it was a political staged myth of late 1800 after the benin invasion by the British, oba eweka11 sought monarchial help from the then ooni to help strengthening the political power of the edo people who was emerging from a devastating war that burnt down the city capital You know the rest The benin monarch accepted to be one of oduduwa son, in the hierarchy it was ooni first and oba of benin second, at these time alafin was still having superiority battle against the ooni, later when awolowo elevated the stool, the alafin subcumed and decided to stay at second displacing the oba to third position So their argument on the ownership of the word oba has been defeated It was mere politcs even the yoruba unification was not historical and ife was never thier ancestral town ife was a religious town to the yorubas The title oba has bern in the yoruba lexicon as far As 16century when benin expanded into their territory that would be 6centuries now Despite the long age it has been in Yoruba lexicon it remains foreign to them Imagine benin supplying yoruba warriors fighting atilaries, controlling their lands, giving them kings, controlling their market, just imagine how the title oba would sound to them When the oba of benin was being taken to calabar by the British they had to cover his face to avoid uprise from both benin areas and non edo territorie Note Not until 1930 the ooni of ife used the word oba officially to adress is title letting go of the British sir in replacement of oba He made a mistake of not foreseeing the end of the false political unification of benin people under yoruba umbrella he only saw the advantage of the name it would bring to his stool He never proclaimed other yoruba monarchs to follow suit but automatically the other yoruba bought into adding oba to thier title Note Ogie is a title for duke only the oba of benin bears the title oba of benin The question every tribe should ask yoruba is why do they adopt the word oba as a generic term for kingship when already is known to adress a popular monarch I guess the answer can also be found in my writeup Picture of one of the ooni holding an edo ceremonial sword wanting to mimic the benin stool, but i guess he later droped it 1 Like
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Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by TAO11(f): 8:57pm On Dec 04, 2020 |
tollyboy5:I am still waiting for you to demonstrate how you’re an Ijebu person by addressing this simple challenge since yesterday: My challenge to you was that you should explain the difference between the following Ijebu words: àmù and ìṣà Prove yourself that you aren’t a confusion-causing IPOB-terrorist. I’d be waiting! Haven’t you found an Ijebu person around to help you out? Lol. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by Nobody: 9:19pm On Dec 04, 2020 |
TAO11: That guy is a known yoruba man for ages here as far back as his post dates. Why calling him Ipob, because last I checked he has always been a Yoruba man. If calling him Ipob will make your argument sound acceptable then I will hold the view that he is beating your own submission hands down. Better engage him intellectually. |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by TAO11(f): 9:23pm On Dec 04, 2020 |
Juliusmalema:Lol. A different person entirely had alleged that he’s an IPOB-terrorist. [I’m aware that not all Igbos are IPOB terrorists btw — in case that’s where you’re coming from] So, I’m only giving him an opportunity to refute the allegation made against him by proving himself to be what he claims to be — Ijebu-Ode person — by taking up that simple challenge. The challenge is to differentiate between the following Ijebu words: àmù and ìṣà It should be so simple. ![]() ————————— And regarding “engage him intellectually“, there seem apparently to be very little common between us per some basic information which he still finds shocking upon educating him on them. The gap between us seem to be too large that coming to his level is extremely tedious — he hardly understands a thing, while being honest that he hasn’t really read one material on history. But strangely and ironically, he still wouldn’t be humble to learn. You may visit the thread to feed your eyes. Cheers! 13 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by Nobody: 9:38pm On Dec 04, 2020 |
TAO11: Well your reply is more of an insult than a reply. I am not that strict here as I am in politics section as I treat every issue with all fairness. First of all calling him Ipob because someone called him such without verifying is stewpidity taken too far and when you claim you are intellectually sound to engage someone. I might as well summarily gag all Yorubas as been dirty, pigeonhole all of them as one million boys and Awawa youths. I might as well uphold the notion that they have not really fought any battle as many always say. I might as well term them weak because people said so. I might as well hold of them or Opc as of obj era as terrorist. I might as well tag those who Murdered the traditional rulers in Ondo as terrorist and them same in reference to others. I can go on and on but dinner must be served. Here is not Politics section but I had to reply this because that young man right from the time I had been on nairaland is a Yoruba man. For solely using the term IPOB against his own argument not only made your submission weak but irrelevant. You used such term to weaken his stance but that's a poor way of attack because you should have conditioned him with your own yoruba history than looking for ways to rubbish him. If you want to rubbish him then rubbish him soundly. I do not care whether you tag me Ipob or not. I don't give a flying fuccck but you might end up Rubbishing everything you have suffered to prove. I am not that active here because of the culture term attached to it but in Politics section. it will be a different ball game. |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by Nobody: 9:40pm On Dec 04, 2020 |
TAO11: And you want to close the gap by calling him Ipob terrorists? Wonderful |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by gregyboy(m): 9:45pm On Dec 04, 2020 |
Juliusmalema: They want to use the ipob tactics as distraction Yoruba confederacy is more worst than a cult |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by TAO11(f): 9:53pm On Dec 04, 2020 |
Juliusmalema:Lol. I am not exactly sure what point you’re trying to address here: (1) That someone called him IPOB terrorist ? (2) That I challenged him to refute the allegation? (3) That I challenged him to prove himself to be who he claimed to be by presenting him some Ijebu words to translate? — which he’s still unable to do since more than 17 hours now. (4) That I educated him on the historical information he is oblivious of — thus debunking his ignorant submissions? Which of these four are you mad at me for? Feel free to add others. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by TAO11(f): 9:55pm On Dec 04, 2020 |
Juliusmalema:Read my last comment and reply. 3 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by Nobody: 12:06am On Dec 05, 2020 |
tollyboy5: You're not ijebu you this bastard 3 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by gregyboy(m): 12:13am On Dec 05, 2020 |
TheLionofLasigi: You that is not a bastard are you ijebu, to know who is not |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by tollyboy5(m): 12:18am On Dec 05, 2020 |
TheLionofLasigi:Your father is a BASTARD YOU FOOL .who is your mother? Whats her name? What's your surname? |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by Nobody: 12:18am On Dec 05, 2020 |
gregyboy: ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by Nobody: 12:26am On Dec 05, 2020 |
gregyboy: An ijebu man doesn't chestbeat and talk trash.... I have them as friends and family, I go to their festivals, my girlfriend is from ijebu remo were her father was a monarch.... I don't need to see a ijebu man I only need to see what he's saying to know if he's ijebu.....tollyboy is an Ipob apologist bastard born of an 0su mother....same as you probably 1 Like |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by gregyboy(m): 12:31am On Dec 05, 2020 |
TheLionofLasigi: If ipob people gives you erection so be it, even your sister get erection from debating bini boys Rephrase yoruba slave in brazil just got pitied by thier master to let them learn thier ancestral language so that they can easily differentiate them from the white and further engolf rascim on them I see nothing to be proud of here |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by gregyboy(m): 12:35am On Dec 05, 2020 |
TheLionofLasigi: Ooh i get, ![]() |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by Nobody: 12:40am On Dec 05, 2020 |
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Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by Nobody: 12:50am On Dec 05, 2020 |
gregyboy: Na man, it only shows the love and acceptance of the rich and powerful Yoruba culture, we don't beg minority tribes to join us, but instead they seek to reconnect with us, in a few years time don't be surprised if it becomes a major world language as it's already happened in Edo land.... meanwhile you flatin0 maggots are regected by your neighbors in the SS to the Jews in Asia who you claim to be....sick bitter bush tribe has now resorted to spreading falsehood and moving to sow discord within the Yoruba nation; we know your typical bring him down mentality and your bitter and envious nature. Truth remains that you're largely inconsequential and would probably die poor, bitter and unaccomplished in life.....I spit on you uncercumsized 0su bastard... child of shit and piss 1 Like |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by gregyboy(m): 12:54am On Dec 05, 2020 |
TheLionofLasigi: Now i know So Tao11 is a guy, meaning she get erection from guys, she is gay like her afonja brother bobirisky |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by Nobody: 1:44am On Dec 05, 2020 |
gregyboy: Bye 0su piggy 1 Like |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by Dartilo(m): 4:29am On Dec 05, 2020 |
Nigga I was expecting u to ask him which of the Yoruba dialect na Guy live those wack people alone gregyboy: |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by Balogunodua(m): 9:18am On Dec 05, 2020 |
gregyboy:Stale....... ![]() Try harder.... ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by Newton85: 9:43am On Dec 05, 2020 |
TAO11: Let the idiotic, dimwitted "Ijebu" impostor with his Waddai-Sudan balderdash come to my Remoland (since us Remo people are regarded as Ijebu) and tell us that we're from some stupid Waddai. I'm a Remo guy from Ilishan, us Remo people are from Iremo Quarters in Ife. Or are Remo people no longer "Ijebu"? Heck, let the idiot go to Ijebu-Ife and tell them there that they're from some nonsensical Waddai. Maybe Ijebu-Ife people are also no longer "Ijebu." 2 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by Newton85: 10:00am On Dec 05, 2020 |
tollyboy5: You're not Ijebu, oloriburuku impostor. Just come to Remoland and tell us that we're from some stupid Waddai when we're truly from Iremo Quarters in Ife. Maybe us Remo people are no longer "Ijebu"? You can also take your imbecilic ass to Ijebu-Ife and tell them there that they're from some nonsensical Waddai. Maybe Ijebu-Ife people are also no longer "Ijebu." I'm from Ilishan Remo, which technically makes me "Ijebu," and my ancestors came from Ile Ife, not spurious Waddai. Omo ale impostor! 1 Like |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by tollyboy5(m): 10:04am On Dec 05, 2020 |
Newton85:Ijebu ode is what we know as the real ijebu. That's where ijebu-epe migrated from. Maybe the rest ijebu were slaves to the awujales lineage ![]() I've seen some agoiwoyi ijebus claim they came from ondo state. People coming under the ijebu kingdom caused the variant ijebu dialect we have today. They all have their ancestral history. Now I'm talking about the real ijebus not the eru under awujale. When my ancestors came to epe with other ijebu prince , they came with slaves who are now citizens , don't confuse history the ijebu ode were seen has the major root of ijebus till date. If your ancestors has different root that good for you. Don't try to engage me in folklores. Just the way tao went to read further before she came to reply me. I don't need to reply her because I knew where she's coming from. Everything is leading back to myth. Non of her post are new to me. If I reply she'll need to read further b4 replying me. The west Africans believe white destroyed their history but thats a big lie. Even conquered Egypt and lybia still has some artifact to show how ancient they were. The west African are just pulling unnecessary random figure to prove they existed in west Africa before the east Africa. Random thousands BCEs everywhere with no carbon dating is all assumption. Egyptian tablet still exist till now. Every attempt to prove our ancestors in west Africa never read and right are too obvious to everyone, but some people want to belief in the IFE myth. mind you I'm not saying remo might have not came from ife. Im trying to let you know who the original ijebus are actually. I don't do much of history despite reading them alot but I'll take it serious now before people start passing folklores to innocent kids |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by TAO11(f): 10:08am On Dec 05, 2020 |
Newton85:I tire for the boy oo. I think he’s preying on naive Nairalanders in order perpetrate his propaganda. Whenever Nairalanders read the Awaujale say Ijebus are from Sudan (even though the claim is laughably false), they fail to realize that he is talking of the Ijebu-Odes (his people) — who are only one of innumerable Ijebu-types. There are many (if not countless) other Ijebus — such as the Ijebu-Remos (which themselves are several) among many other Ijebu-types all of whom like every other Yoruba subgroups admit their “Ife origin” in unreserved terms. Even the Ijebu-Odes themselves, like others, admit their “Ife origin” which in their traditional account speaks of three different waves of migration — each from Ife. Only recently did the Wadai joke suddenly pop out of thin air from Ijebu-Ode as a result, obviously, of superiority politics. I have done my best to provide him some education on the scientific basis of the history of the Yorubas. Yes, I understand that he would blindly deny science since it obviously doesn’t align with his missionary propaganda, despite his admission that he hasn’t read a history material before: ————— And also, no one should take him seriously as he is yet to prove himself to be who he claims since over 24 hours. Here are two Ijebu words for him to differentiate and explain: Àmù and Ìṣà. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by Newton85: 10:12am On Dec 05, 2020 |
tollyboy5:I already knew it would come to that. "Ijebu Ode is the REAL IJEBU" was all I needed to further confirm that you were a deplorable IPOB pig masquerading as Ijebu. Even if you were not the despicable IPOB Ijebu impostor that you are, you would have simply wrote "Ijebu Ode people are from Waddai," and not "Ijebu people are from Waddai." But thanks for further exposing your degenerate IPOB ass though, oloriburuku Omo ale IPOB impostor. 1 Like |
Re: Ikwerre People Visit Oba Of Benin, Presents Indigenous Flag by tollyboy5(m): 10:14am On Dec 05, 2020 |
Newton85:I don't know actually ask your grandfather if you guys were slaves to the awujales lineage during the ijebu kingdom. If yes then possibly you might be from ife. Mind you the ijebu settle had three different migration legend. I'm capitalizing on ijebu ode in order not to confuse things. Your remo ancestors might not come from ijebu ode . but ijebu-epe is from ijebu-ode . we speak the same dialect not the remo varient type. I just want you to know the real first migration of ijebu. Not the later ones who came later . |
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