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Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by patomberekpe(m): 1:56pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
MrPRevailer: You just quoted john1:1 Can You read the same verse 10? I just noticed You only quote the verse that justify your claim,But put blind eyes to the rest,Please read Bible to the fullest, Jesus have a title, Lord God, As well As God and Lord himself. |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by DeRichard(m): 1:57pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
johhbekeboh09: The Holy Spirit is a personality. |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by Nobody: 1:57pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
phemmyflexxy:the bible wasnt really written for everyone...to some it will sound rediculous but to others it opens their eyes...just look around the world an tell me what do you see..is man doing ok.. |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by thinkmoney(m): 2:00pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
Jiokejohn:Thank you for the humility you showed by acknowledging my contribution. What I hope to established is that being called a god doesn't mean you deserve our worship. Many people human beings and spirit creatures were called God even by Jesus (Jehovah in the old testament also recognise their were idols called god's), but to christians and followers of Jesus, there is only one almighty God we are to worship. This almighty God is distinct from and superior to Jesus. Can you imagine Satan tempting the almighty God? No. But he tempted Jesus, he wanted Jesus not to betray himself (which is impossible) but to betray God almighty. But happily, Jesus responded to one of his temptation, where Satan asked for worship, by telling Satan to be gone! That it is almighty Jehovah alone that should be worshiped. To now go back to the question that brought about this; it is Jesus, the chief worker, that God was corresponding with when he said "let us make man in our image..." Angels too where witness to the world's creation as job made us know. However, angels too infact all other things where created by Jesus through the help and authorisation of Jehovah God almighty |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by Nobody: 2:01pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
DeRichard:i disagree...personality is a characteristic of a person... does ths sound like a character.. "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:" |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by johhbekeboh09: 2:10pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
blacknp: Jesus Christ never claimd he was God Read John 14:28,10:29. |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by adonni: 2:17pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
Jesus Christ is the word out of God's mouth, according to scripture, without whom nothing can be created. That we know but was He the only other being there? |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by jcross19: 2:18pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
enilove:There is one appellation of God that says alpha and omega meaning the first and the last that's the humble and pride that's God... Now "let us create a man in our image" now they created man and woman meaning the host God was talking were male and female, and these are the first children of God... The word "let us" mean the humility of God to carry His subjects (sons) along... God is talking to the host of heavens... |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by oluxy(m): 2:25pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
divinemichael: He's talking among Him, His son and Holy Spirit. He's three in one, one in three. The Trinity. He's not talking to angel cos he doesn't take advice from angel on what to do, nor does he share his glory with any angel. |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by johhbekeboh09: 2:26pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
DeRichard: Its not a distinct individual like Jehovah Jesus Christ (Angel Michael) Humans Read 7:55,56. Though the bible personifies holy spirit as a he. |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by Kay25(m): 2:34pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
divinemichael:you are right and right.. |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by Nobody: 2:36pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
Was referring to God the Father, God the son, and God the holy spirit |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by sonmvayina(m): 2:38pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
AustineJohn908: Jesus is just a Roman/Greek invention to mock God and deceive people...jesus is fiction. Read Isaiah 45:1-10 2 Likes |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by sonmvayina(m): 2:40pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
Donspicey: Stop being deceived..read Isaiah 45:1-10 |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by femi4: 2:42pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
thinkmoney:He's equal in ATTRIBUTES with God the Father but He's not the Father. If you know him, you have known the Father cos the Father gave him free role to operates in ALL his attributes Jn 10:29-30 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all c ; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.” He doesn't have begining John 1:1 In the beginning was the word He wasn't created Colossians 1:16 “For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; 1 Like |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by ello29(m): 2:42pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
Janosky: You dont even know you are little Gods you are created in His own Image and likeness |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by Nobody: 2:47pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
He was actually speaking to Jesus Christ. We know this because Bible says that Jesus Christ is the image of the invicible God and the first born of all creation( that is everything that God created), and he joined his father in creating everything both in heaven and on earth (Colossians 1:15-17). Jesus also confirmed that in (Proverbs 8:22-31) he was there when his father was creating everything. So it was Jesus Christ and nobody else that Jehovah God was actually speaking with because he was the only one that joined his father in creating everything including the Angels. |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by Tonche: 2:47pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
Jehovah God was apparently referring to himself and his only-begotten Son when he said: “The man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad.” (Genesis 3:22) Let us consider why. Jehovah said these words after pronouncing sentence upon the first human couple. Some have taken the expression “one of us” as the plural of majesty, just as a human king might say “we are not pleased” when referring only to himself. With regard to Genesis 1:26 and 3:22, however, Bible scholar Donald E. Gowan says: “There is no support in the O[ld] T[estament] for most of the proposed explanations: the royal ‘we,’ the deliberative ‘we,’ the plural of fullness, or an indication of a plurality of persons in the Godhead. . . . None of these explanations makes much sense in 3:22, which speaks of ‘one of us.’” Could Jehovah have been referring to Satan the Devil, who had come to decide “good and bad” on his own and who had influenced the first humans to do the same? That is not reasonable. Here Jehovah used the expression “one of us.” Satan was no longer among the throng of Jehovah’s faithful angels, so he could not have been included with those who were on Jehovah’s side. Was God referring to the faithful angels? We cannot say definitely. However, the similarity of the expressions at Genesis 1:26 and 3:22 gives us a clue. At Genesis 1:26, we read that Jehovah said: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness.” To whom was he addressing these words? Referring to the spirit creature who became the perfect man Jesus, the apostle Paul said: “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and upon the earth.” (Colossians 1:15, 16) Yes, it seems logical that at Genesis 1:26, Jehovah was speaking to his only-begotten Son, the “master worker,” who was at his side during the creation of the heavens and the earth. (Proverbs 8:22-31) The similarity of the expression at Genesis 3:22 suggests that Jehovah was again speaking to the one closest to him, his only-begotten Son. God’s only-begotten Son apparently had knowledge of “good and bad.” From his long and intimate experience with Jehovah, he certainly learned well his Father’s thinking, principles, and standards. Convinced of his Son’s acquaintance with these and loyalty to them, Jehovah may have granted him some latitude in handling matters without direct consultation with Him in each instance. So the Son would to this extent be able and authorized to determine what was good and bad. However, unlike Satan, Adam, and Eve, he did not set up a standard that conflicted with Jehovah’s |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by sonmvayina(m): 2:50pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
DimIsaac10: He was talking to the earth, she brought the dust for the body.. |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by freshboi88: 2:50pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
jmichael259: Show me where proverbs said Jesus was a chief worker and u r quoting John and Colossians. R u sure u don't need panadol? |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by Youngzedd(m): 2:53pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
MrPRevailer: There are so many scriptures that counters this claim. Below are some of them Matthew 26:39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” John 16:23 In that day you will no longer ask me anything. Very truly I tell you, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. John 5:19 Yahushua gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. John 6:38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. John 12:49 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. John 7:16 Yahushua answered, “My teaching is not my own. It comes from the one who sent me. John 8:26 “I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is trustworthy, and what I have heard from him I tell the world.” John 6:65 He went on to say, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.” Mathew 16:16-17 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” 17 Yahushua replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. John 14:6 Yahushua answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. . . Before you jump and criticise, the above scriptures are red letters. I mean that's what Christ himself said. We must choose one, it's either you believe Christ whom you claim to follow his footsteps or you believe and follow your church leaders leading you to destruction. . Acts 7:55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Yahushua standing at the right hand of God. Matthew 17:5 While he was still speaking, a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!” Romans 1:1-3 1 Paul, a servant of Yahushua, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God— 2 the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures 3 regarding his Son, who as to his earthly life[a] was a descendant of David, Matthew 8:29 (The devil recognised him). 29 “What do you want with us, Son of God?” they shouted. “Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?” Matthew 26:63-64 (Under oath) 63 But Yahushua remained silent. The high priest said to him, “I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God.” 64 “You have said so,” Yahushua replied. “But I say to all of you: From now on you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.”[a] 2 John 3 3 Grace, mercy and peace from God the Father and from Yahushua, the Father’s Son, will be with us in truth and love. John 3:16 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. . . Can God stand at the right hand of God? Revelation 5:7 He (Christ) went and took the scroll from the right hand of him (God) who sat on the throne. . Hebrews 1:1-4 1 In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. 3 The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. 4 So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs. In conclusion: Christ is the son of God, not God himself. Cc: divinemichael enilove |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by AustineJohn908(m): 2:57pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
sonmvayina:Alright then. so who is the Word that was with God doing Creation. |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by neonbash0: 3:05pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
God is not a single being. God is a duality according to the main version of the Hebrew Bible. (First creation story) it referred to God as Elohim which is a plural word. So there has to be another person in the picture. Just like a fusion of male and female. Because if God is male alone how did he come up with the female version? Putting in consideration that he said let us create man in "our" own image. I strongly believe that he referred to his female counterpart. Father, son and holy spirit. Who is the holy spirit? Male or female? There can't be 2 males and a son. It's not possible right? By the way the character of the holy spirit is more feminine if you look into it deeply. |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by guru1234: 3:07pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
The bible wasn’t written originally in English. The Old Testament was written in Hebrew and no Jew believe this to mean God is speaking to anything or anyone. The word “us” is a plural of respect. It is common in seminitic languages. Just like the Yoruba used to say “ Eh” for plural and “Eh” sometimes is used when talking to elderly person. The English language doesn’t have the exact translation for such Plural of respect hence the English bible translate it to “us”. God is one and he created everything all by himself. The Christians scholar deliberately interpret it to explain thier doctrine of trinity. No Jew understood that verse to mean plurality because the original is in Hebrew and they understand thier language. Jesus said “ Hear O Israel the lord our God is one” and same is the first commandment given by Moses. Trinity is a church teaching and not biblical. |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by DimIsaac10(m): 3:18pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
sonmvayina:This is more fictitious |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by Memyselfu2009(m): 3:18pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
Lets create man in our own image Point 1: That was Jehovah God talking to Jesus Christ how to we know that Colossians 1:15 made it clear that Jesus was the first creating. Point 2: Jehovah God was not created no one knows God's origin he has no be Revelation 4:11 Revelation 22:13 This verse acknowledge Jehovah God as the Alpha and the Omega the Beginning and the End. Revelation 1:8 same with this verse Revelation 4:11 Acknowledged Jehovah God as the creator of the universe, the creator of everything. Point 3: Was Jesus Christ fully involved in creations i would say yes because the bible made it clear in John 1:3 and Colossians 1:16 - 17 Point 4: Then what role did the holy spirit play and what is really the holy spirt The holy spirit is God’s power in action, his active force. (Micah 3:8; Luke 1:35) God sends out his spirit by projecting his energy to any place to accomplish his will.—Psalm 104:30; 139:7. PONIT 5 The Holy Sprit is not a person and do not have a name. The Bible gives the names of Jehovah God and of his Son, Jesus Christ; yet, nowhere does it name the holy spirit. (Isaiah 42:8; Luke 1:31) When the Christian martyr Stephen was given a miraculous heavenly vision, he saw only two persons, not three. The Bible says: “He, being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand.” (Acts 7:55) The holy spirit was God’s power in action, enabling Stephen to see the vision. POINT 6 John 16:7. John 14:16 and John 14:26 Jesus ask his father to send God holy spirit to his disciples before his date. POINT 7 His Jehovah Jesus and the Holy Spirt all equal can we really say the doctrine of trinity is false 1. Many Christian denominations teach that God is a Trinity. However, note what the Encyclopædia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.” In fact, the God of the Bible is never described as being part of a Trinity. Note these Bible passages: “Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.”—Deuteronomy 6:4. “You, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”—Psalm 83:18. “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.”—John 17:3. “God is only one.”—Galatians 3:20. Point 8. Jesus also know that There is someone greater than him if he is God was did also pray he would have told him disciples to pray to him. Take note of this verses Matthew 26:39 And going a little way forward, he fell facedown, praying:a “My Father, if it is possible, let this cupb pass away from me. Yet, not as I will, but as you will. John 14 vs 28 28 You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am. 1 Corinthians 15:27, 28 27 For God “subjected all things under his feet.”a But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’b it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him.c 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him,d that God may be all things to everyone. Colossians 1:15, 16 15 He is the image of the invisible God,a the firstborn of all creation;b 16 because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,c whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through himd and for him. |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by solreb: 3:20pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
Janosky:The bible is the word of God inspired by God (2 Tim 3:16-17). So one should be careful to tag any part of the bible a fraud |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by solreb: 3:24pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
jesusjnr2020:More annointing. 1 Like |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by thinkmoney(m): 3:31pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
femi4:When you talk of attributes now I don't know what you specifically mean. The Bible expressively reffered to him as the first born of all creation. The begotten. Proverbs 8, made us understand that God formed him from the VERY beginning of his works. He is said to be with God from the beginning because he is the first begotten. First created, the Bible said God then use him to create ALL OTHER things. He being said to be one with God, isn't that he is the very God, it means he is United in purpose with God. In that very place that Jesus said he is one with God, he also said he is one with is disciples. In that context, we, barring any mischief recongnised the disciples ate United with him just like he is United with God. They are not one entity. Jesus by his own testimony said , 'the father is greater than I am', in another place he said he can't do anything of his own accord that he gives what he gets from the father. And thank God you said God GAVE him free role. The understanding we get from the Bible is that he is a worthy and perfect representative of his father. Just as people can say of a good son that manages is father's empire, 'that if you see Mr Balogun junior, you have seen his father, Balogun senior, they are in agreement. His father trust and support him. They are one'. |
Re: Who Was God Referring To, When He Said Come Let's Make Man In Our Own Image? by Theboss100(m): 3:57pm On Dec 06, 2020 |
jesusjnr2020:Let me analyze that John 1:1-3. This text does not in any way support the fraud trinity. Three person does not make one God. Let me prove it to you people. In the beginning was the WORD which is the same as LOGOS. Which we all know is Jesus Christ. Colossians 1:15-20. He was the first thing created by God. God then used him to create everything both visible and invisible. 2. The WORD ( Jesus Christ ) was with God his Father. 3. And the WORD ( Jesus Christ ) was God. That's true. Pls read the following 1 Corinthians 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. All things were created by Jesus Christ and without him, nothing would have be created. Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. Falsehood of Trinity Many people including this brother I am qouting believe in trinity which they say three persons make one God i.e God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. This is false as the Bible texts I stated earlier disproves it. Let's go further. Bible texts God said in the book of Isaiah Isaiah 40:18 To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him? 40:25 To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One. Isaiah 46:5 To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like? 2. Jesus Christ collaborated with the above when he said his father is greater than he himself. John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. John 13:16 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Conclusion The final self explanatory text of the Book of books. This is an even that happened during the baptism of Jesus Christ. Only the wise will understand Matthew 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. The Holy Spirit is not a person but the active force of Jehovah. It's simply His Power. That's is why sin against the holy spirit is not forgiven. It's penalty is death. And to tell you that devil has used his falsehood through his fake prophets, pastors etc to blind many. How can you believe in trinity when Jesus Christ himself always pray directly to his father when he was here on earth during his first advent Anything he does, he always acknowledge his Father. That's to show that God is greater than him. May Jehovah have mercy upon His lost sheep. Amen |
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