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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 8:34pm On Dec 08, 2020
wirinet:


Trump needs the suit to give his illiterate cult followers something to hope unto. Imagine a state suing another state to dispute the way it decided to hold its elections and dispute the outcome of its votes. It's like Lagos suing kano for voting it's senatorial candidate. It's even worse, because in the US federal elections are organized by the states. According to the US constitution it's the states that votes their presidential candidate and not necessarily the electorates. It's just that the states vote according to the votes of the electorate.
So I honestly don't understand the right of Texas to tell Georgia or Michigan who they must vote for.

At the rate at which Trump and his illiterate cult followers are going, the US better divide with Trump rulling the red states perpetually and California and some other blue states form another country.

Of course basilico is back today running naked, after 49 loses, Texas suit is now what will upturn election for Trump, one week, one hysteria

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:38pm On Dec 08, 2020
Dapcity007:
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Supreme court on religious activity during pandemic science thrown out
Throw this out, lol

https://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1336308939072315393?s=19

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 8:39pm On Dec 08, 2020
sanpipita:


Of course basilico is back today running naked, after 49 loses, Texas suit is now what will upturn election for Trump, one week, one hysteria

More like one day one hysteria
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:39pm On Dec 08, 2020
Ibime:


I know Trumpists don't read. She has already been before a Judge who called her not a credible witness

Thanks for the correction.
Did Joe Biden get 80m votes, was the election the most secure ever?
If your answer is Yes, then why are democrats rushing to dismiss cases on technicalities?
If Biden won lawfully , why don't they allow voter machine forensics and or ballot verification
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:41pm On Dec 08, 2020
Ibime:


More like one day one hysteria

It's a constitutional matter that activist judges have no jurisdiction.
As usual taint the messenger not the message
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 8:44pm On Dec 08, 2020
basilico:


Thanks for the correction.
Did Joe Biden get 80m votes, was the election the most secure ever?
If your answer is Yes, then why are democrats rushing to dismiss cases on technicalities?
If Biden won lawfully , why don't they allow voter machine forensics and or ballot verification

You would know she has already been in court naturally if you live in the real world, not Trump's fantasy land where he convinces you people not to read real media but to go looking on YouTube for Conspiracies.

On your second point, after all the noise about Machine flipping vote, Georgia did hand recount and achieved the same results.

Now tell me basilico, if hand recount returned the same result, is continuing talk of machines flipping votes not evidence of insanity?

Why should sane people in the real world continue to accommodate mental illness, delusions and hysteria. The courts are there to sift evidence and so far 49 Trump cases have been thrown out. A Judge even dismissed Sidney Powell's case from the bench. What she wrote in her docket was so crazy and foolish, he refused to cheapen his court to listen to oral arguments on conspiracies.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:44pm On Dec 08, 2020
Justice Emmet Sullivan has finally dismissed the case of Gen Flynn.
Talk about injustice, prosecution withdraws case, judge becomes "prosecutor".
Why are they afraid of Gen Flynn to tie him down for 4 years?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 8:44pm On Dec 08, 2020
basilico:


You don't get the argument.Texas is suing those states for violation of the constitution which allowed massive fraud.
Meaning Texan votes were cancelled by fraud at the state level by these technocrats not following the constitution.
States can sue other states.And present their case to the Supreme Court which will determine if the actions by these states diluted the constitution Texans were affected .
The SC is the arbitrator of states vs states.


I don't still get your argument. You mean Texan votes were cancelled by fraud at the state level by election laws made by Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia? How did a law made by legislatures in these states affect the Texas voter?
These states can choose whomsoever they wish as president, likewise Texas.

Now what are the prayers of this Texas suit?
To cancel the elections in all 4 states and deny them the electoral votes?

For the Supreme Court to allocate the electoral votes to Trump despite the results of the elections?

To arbitrarily cancel all Mail in and absentee ballots and mail in votes (which heavily favours Biden) from the official results and only leave the in person voting (which heavily favours Trump), hereby disenfranchising over half the registered voters?

You want trump who had never and will never have popular support to rule America by force? You realize that at no time in his presidency was he able to get 50% support from the citizenry. He may have cult following but he was the US most unpopular president in recent history.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:45pm On Dec 08, 2020
It feels so nice to see Dr.Fauci in the Biden Health team he just spoke on video as the chief medical advisor on Covid19 as Biden is presenting his health team to the public


Trump and his supporters wanted to fire Fauci but Fauci gets to keep his job and was offered another position join the job.
This is very good Trump and his supporters must be on severe pains right now Trump was fired Fauci was not cheesy

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 8:51pm On Dec 08, 2020
basilico:


Thanks for the correction.
Did Joe Biden get 80m votes, was the election the most secure ever?
If your answer is Yes, then why are democrats rushing to dismiss cases on technicalities?
If Biden won lawfully , why don't they allow voter machine forensics and or ballot verification

The answer is a resounding YES!

2020 Election Was Most Secure in U.S. History, Cybersecurity Officials Say
Christopher Krebs, director of the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, testifies during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in Dirksen Building titled "5G: National Security Concerns, Intellectual Property Issues, and the Impact on Competition and Innovation," on Tuesday, May 14, 2019.
https://time.com/5911518/2020-election-most-secure-history/

The cases were not dismissed on technicalities, they were dismissed for lack of evidence. Trump lawyers presented no physical evidence to back up their claims.

The voter machines are not in Biden's custody, so he has no powers to allow voter machine forensics and or ballot verification.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:51pm On Dec 08, 2020
wirinet:


I don't still get your argument. You mean Texan votes were cancelled by fraud at the state level by election laws made by Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia? How did a law made by legislatures in these states affect the Texas voter?
These states can choose whomsoever they wish as president, likewise Texas.

Now what are the prayers of this Texas suit?
To cancel the elections in all 4 states and deny them the electoral votes?

For the Supreme Court to allocate the electoral votes to Trump despite the results of the elections?

To arbitrarily cancel all Mail in and absentee ballots and mail in votes (which heavily favours Biden) from the official results and only leave the in person voting (which heavily favours Trump), hereby disenfranchising over half the registered voters?

You want trump who had never and will never have popular support to rule America by force? You realize that at no time in his presidency was he able to get 50% support from the citizenry. He may have cult following but he was the US most unpopular president in recent history.

I've already chewed the food for you with regards to this matter,you now only have to swallow .

Texans voted for Trump.They rejected Dominion Electoral vote counters.
Technocrats in those states enforced Dominion machines knowing very well they could be fraud prone.
A Texan vote is disenfranchised if those states used Dominion to alter votes.Ditto if they sent ballots to everyone on the voter rolls be they out of state or dead and who eventually voted.SC will rule on this by demanding to see if the irregularities captured live were part of as Joe Biden said "we have the most efficient ballot fraud thing...."
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 8:54pm On Dec 08, 2020
sanpipita:


Of course basilico is back today running naked, after 49 loses, Texas suit is now what will upturn election for Trump, one week, one hysteria

Believe me, I have never seen someone so delusional and hysterical in my life. I wonder how they are able to function in everyday life.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:57pm On Dec 08, 2020
wirinet:


The answer is a resounding YES!


The cases were not dismissed on technicalities, they were dismissed for lack of evidence. Trump lawyers presented no physical evidence to back up their claims.

The voter machines are not in Biden's custody, so he has no powers to allow voter machine forensics and or ballot verification.

Let's wait for Ratcliffe report due in 45 days after election day on whether foreign agents interfered in the elections via citizen lobbyists or direct internet access to Dominion Systems that Chinese co-own.

Be patient. As it is of now it's not cast in stone that Biden will be sworn in.Anything can happen.Before Jan 2021
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 8:58pm On Dec 08, 2020
basilico:


then why are democrats rushing to dismiss cases on technicalities?
One thing known for certain is, a person telling the truth does not need to lie.

Basilico, is it "democrats rushing to dismiss cases on technicalities" or the courts telling you your 'evidence' is nonsensical rubbish and you have no case?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:01pm On Dec 08, 2020
budaatum:

One thing known for certain is, a person telling the truth does not need to lie.

Basilico, is it "democrats rushing to dismiss cases on technicalities" or the courts telling you your 'evidence' is nonsensical rubbish and you have no case?

Trump team and supporters have filed affidavits alleging voter fraud.
If Biden was cleanly elected ,why not allow nationwide audit.
Instead you have democrats as defendants pushing for case dismissal.
A judge Batten heard a case yesterday, he already had a 35 page rejoinder on reasons to dismiss the suit. I add a qualifier.An activist pretending to be a judge.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:01pm On Dec 08, 2020
basilico:


Let's wait for Ratcliffe report due in 45 days after election day on whether foreign agents interfered in the elections via citizen lobbyists or direct internet access to Dominion Systems that Chinese co-own.
Why should I wait for anyone to tell me, foreign agent buda, that I interfered in the election that I was here day in day out interfering in?

Goddamnit, basilico. I so love you for underestimating me. Did I not even raise the dead to help me interfere?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:05pm On Dec 08, 2020
basilico:


If Biden was cleanly elected ,why not allow nationwide audit.

Instead you have democrats as defendants pushing for case dismissal.
This is like asking me to be silent and not expose your alternative faux news!

See my response below!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:06pm On Dec 08, 2020
budaatum:

Why should I wait for anyone to tell me, foreign agent buda, that I interfered in the election that I was here day in day out interfering in?

Goddamnit, basilico. I so love you for underestimating me. Did I not even raise the dead to help me interfere?

A starting point is whether Dominion machines were promoted to be strictly offline.
According to their contract in Georgia a wireless GSM modem was included in the architecture of the system.This particular GSM modem is manufactured in China.
A Trump team campaign witness claims they captured data packets being sent out to Europe , and also the returned packet captures.
This thing is big,Let's wait and see.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 9:18pm On Dec 08, 2020
basilico:

Texans voted for Trump.They rejected Dominion Electoral vote counters.
You still don't get it and will probably never get it. Texans have no right to tell any other state what voting system to use. At best only the congress has the powers to interfere in election laws made by states.
Texas can reject Dominion system, thats their perogative, they can impose that on any other state.

Technocrats in those states enforced Dominion machines knowing very well they could be fraud prone.
Again, after the election has taking place, all voter and election fraud cases can only be litigated in the courts, Texas has no say in matters beyond its borders.

Also be aware that the Dominion system was used not only in the 4 states you guys are obsessed with but in over 24 states.

Fact check: Dominion software was not used only in states where Trump is filing lawsuits

Thousands of social media users have been sharing posts which claim that software from Dominion Voting Systems (a company that supplies election technology) is used in the same six states where President Trump is filing lawsuits in connection with the presidential election, suggesting that Dominion Voting is responsible for election fraud. These posts, however, are misleading. Dominion Voting systems were used in at least 24 states.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN27S2Z9

I am sure Dominion system was used more in states where Trump won. So if you guys want elections cancelled in states where Dominion was used, then states won by Trump using Dominion must be cancelled as well.


A Texan vote is disenfranchised if those states used Dominion to alter votes.Ditto if they sent ballots to everyone on the voter rolls be they out of state or dead and who eventually voted.SC will rule on this by demanding to see if the irregularities captured live were part of as Joe Biden said "we have the most efficient ballot fraud thing...."

How is a Texan vote disenfranchised? Are their votes not counted? Is Texas electoral collage votes not casted? You are not making any sense at all.

Supreme Court can't manufacture evidence for Trump. The Supreme Court can only look at evidence presented at the lower courts and rule on it. Supreme Court obviously would not rule based on conjectures and innuendos.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Gullah: 9:27pm On Dec 08, 2020
God is about to do something amazing. To those that have believed the promise and have been on their knees before God since November 3rd, do not faint but stand firm and see the salvation of the Lord. Watch out for very soon you will see the Hand of God doing a great thing and you will know that it is the Lord and not man that has done this. Shalom
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Gullah: 9:28pm On Dec 08, 2020
Way maker, Miracle worker, Promise Keeper, Light in the darkness,
My God, that is who You are!!!
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 9:30pm On Dec 08, 2020
Gullah:
God is about to do something amazing. To those that have believed the promise and have been on their knees before God since November 3rd, do not faint but stand firm and see the salvation of the Lord. Watch out for very soon you will see the Hand of God doing a great thing and you will know that it is the Lord and not man that has done this. Shalom

On top this coro period when the whole world economy is at a standstill, abeg take this your preaching to the religious section.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:32pm On Dec 08, 2020
Gullah:
God is about to do something amazing. To those that have believed the promise and have been on their knees before God since November 3rd, do not faint but stand firm and see the salvation of the Lord. Watch out for very soon you will see the Hand of God doing a great thing and you will know that it is the Lord and not man that has done this. Shalom
Remain on your knees before God who already decided on November 3rd.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:50pm On Dec 08, 2020
Interesting. shocked shocked shocked shocked

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 9:51pm On Dec 08, 2020
wirinet:


Believe me, I have never seen someone so delusional and hysterical in my life. I wonder how they are able to function in everyday life.
That guy is mentally unstable to know lies from reality.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 9:52pm On Dec 08, 2020
sanpipita:


Of course basilico is back today running naked, after 49 loses, Texas suit is now what will upturn election for Trump, one week, one hysteria
Only a mentally disturbed human runs around naked and that's exactly the brainless cultist basilico. Nothing is going to change the mind of a confirmed kook
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:56pm On Dec 08, 2020
wirinet:

You still don't get it and will probably never get it. Texans have no right to tell any other state what voting system to use. At best only the congress has the powers to interfere in election laws made by states.
Texas can reject Dominion system, thats their perogative, they can impose that on any other state.


Again, after the election has taking place, all voter and election fraud cases can only be litigated in the courts, Texas has no say in matters beyond its borders.

Also be aware that the Dominion system was used not only in the 4 states you guys are obsessed with but in over 24 states.

I am sure Dominion system was used more in states where Trump won. So if you guys want elections cancelled in states where Dominion was used, then states won by Trump using Dominion must be cancelled as well.


How is a Texan vote disenfranchised? Are their votes not counted? Is Texas electoral collage votes not casted? You are not making any sense at all.

Supreme Court can't manufacture evidence for Trump. The Supreme Court can only look at evidence presented at the lower courts and rule on it. Supreme Court obviously would not rule based on conjectures and innuendos.

What is the point of voting in a republic when other states stop counting votes for hours only for them to resume with Joe Biden getting 113% of votes counted and Trump 87% whereas before the count was stopped Trump had over 51% of counted votes.
Why should Dominion Electoral counters have any algorithm in vote counts and give fractional votes instead of integers when tabulating?
Why should Georgia say they will stop counting simultaneously with 4 other battleground states where Trump was leading after which Biden then overtakes Trump.And video of the counting hall in Georgia show the democrats chase away everyone because of a leaking toilet at 10pm and leave Ruby Freeman, her daughter , Ray Snr counting ballots immediately after everyone else leaves.Now there is even video/audio of the planned stoppage of vote counting by the supervisor.

This thing is yuge. Activist judges are not allowing audits, simply throwing out all cases.50 so far.

And if you check, the military tribunal courts have cleared all Dec cases before them
.
Something huge may or may not come up soon.Indict a rat and the rat will rat on who was issuing orders
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by OgaTheTop2: 10:02pm On Dec 08, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
He's losing out big time. I have been in the stock market for a little over twenty years and that's a winner because hoarding cash is like losing money due to inflation. My wife and I never have more than $10k in our Checking Account for mortgage and the house maintenance plus maybe Grocery shopping and other things needed. If he put that $100k in the market, in five years, he would be talking of nothing less than $140k to $150k. Encourage him to find a good Mutual Fund investment firms with good hedge fund managers that won't take more than 1.5% to 2% commission and he would be smiling to the bank in few years.
Good one. cheesy
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:05pm On Dec 08, 2020
Got work to do now.Ill await for Judge Alito ruling later in the morning.

Anyway there is no evidence of fraud.
Let the choirmaster lead the song,the song might end with some aholes in Guantanamo.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 10:12pm On Dec 08, 2020
basilico:


What is the point of voting in a republic when other states stop counting votes for hours only for them to resume with Joe Biden getting 113% of votes counted and Trump 87% whereas before the count was stopped Trump had over 51% of counted votes.

Circumstantial evidences at best. Tell Gulianni to bring it concrete evidence of votes that were changed, how many of them that were changed and the perpetrators of the fraud.

Republics are governed by laws. There are various avenues to seek redress for perceived grievances. The only other alternative is violence.


Why should Dominion Electoral counters have any algorithm in vote counts and give fractional votes instead of integers when tabulating?
Why should Georgia say they will stop counting simultaneously with 4 other battleground states where Trump was leading after which Biden then overtakes Trump.And video of the counting hall in Georgia show the democrats chase away everyone because of a leaking toilet at 10pm and leave Ruby Freeman, her daughter , Ray Snr counting ballots immediately after everyone else leaves.Now there is even video/audio of the planned stoppage of vote counting by the supervisor.
Same thing as I said above. Circumstantial evidence at best. The actual fraud was not even presented before even talking about evidence.


This thing is yuge. Activist judges are not allowing audits, simply throwing out all cases.50 so far.
You mean all the judges in all the 50 cases are activists judges. You know the saying that when every other person you meet is mad, then it's time to start looking at yourself.


And if you check, the military tribunal courts have cleared all Dec cases before them
.
Military tribunal court date in civil election cases? Are you sure you are not one a strong thing?


Something huge may or may not come up soon.Indict a rat and the rat will rat on who was issuing orders

Confirmation you need help.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by OgaTheTop2: 10:12pm On Dec 08, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

The worries about her were overblown and she was more qualified than this one or Johnson.
It is funny that one group called codepink or so were against her nomination but kept quiet on this one that is also a defense contractor talk about hypocrisy.

Anyway I want to believe Biden knew what he was doing when he picked him and wish them all well.
I believe Biden is aware of your concerns as many other concerned people, I am sure Rtd Gen Austin would do good.. smiley

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by OgaTheTop2: 10:20pm On Dec 08, 2020
happney65:


I think you are getting too worried about the pick..I think he is over qualified like the others in his team despite the diversity..And kindly watch out for more competent Black Men and women to serve on his team..It is a debt Biden has to pay because they gave him the presidency right from the primaries up till now and ended up saving America from the Dictator.

In other news,Have you heard Trump aids are saying when Trump travels for the holidays to Mara la go,He might just stay there permanently and not return to the WH..Oloshi
Would travel with Airforce1 and never return cheesy

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