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Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by livingchrist: 7:30am On Dec 10, 2020 |
Barristter07:Going by your logic since paul said Jesus is our only Lord then it means the father is not Lord, right? The use of 'no one' 'only' is limited and can only be understand withing a given context . Only the father does not exclude the holy Spirit and certainly does not mean the holy spirit is not a person. |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 7:39am On Dec 10, 2020 |
Barristter07: Where did Jesus say only ONE PERSON know? To your deluded mind Jesus lied but the question still remains: Then how can The Holy Spirit who SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God won't know the day? 1 Like |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 7:41am On Dec 10, 2020 |
Barristter07: Here is my point again: Coming from a deluded JWs who believes that Jehovah is all-knowing but can selectively use that attribute. Which means Jehovah can choose to know something and also choose not to know. We can as well say Jehovah is lying. But see them foaming in their lying mouth about Jesus! Hypocrite! 1 Like |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by livingchrist: 7:47am On Dec 10, 2020 |
Emusan:He is fooling himself, according to watch tower Jehovah can choose to know something's and choose not to know, so can we also say a part of Jehovah knows and a part does not know? They think we dont know their satanic deep secret |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 8:24am On Dec 10, 2020 |
livingchrist: That's why I do use the word "Hypocrite" for them. It perfectly describes them. 1 Like |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Barristter07: 10:30am On Dec 10, 2020 |
Emusan: Jehovah didn't say " ONLY so so know " did he ? Face the beat Man: If Jesus knows, then he lied The son doesn't know but only the Father , yes ? 1 Like |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Barristter07: 10:43am On Dec 10, 2020 |
Emusan: Y'all are just getting silly more and more ![]() Only the Father knows means ONLY one person knows. How many persons are the Father ? Are you okay at all with that question at bold ? If holy spirit another separate person also know, that makes two persons and Jesus a liar .... Agree ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 10:59am On Dec 10, 2020 |
Barristter07: In essence you just pulled that out from your deluded brain. If holy spirit another separate person also know, that makes two persons and Jesus a liar .... Agree ? The question you're still dodging is: Then how can The Holy Spirit who SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God won't know the day? 1 Like |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 11:02am On Dec 10, 2020 |
Barristter07: Still ranting! Here is my point again: Coming from a deluded JWs who believes that Jehovah is all-knowing but can selectively use that attribute. Which means Jehovah can choose to know something and also choose not to know. We can as well say Jehovah is lying. But see them foaming in their lying mouth about Jesus! Hypocrite! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Barristter07: 11:07am On Dec 10, 2020 |
Emusan: Jesus said ONLY the Father knows, you idiots said The son also knows , which means when he said NOT even the son knows, he was lying. Use your sense 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Barristter07: 11:10am On Dec 10, 2020 |
Emusan: Father is a person Holy spirit another person If both persons knows , Jesus saying ONLY the Father ( a single person ) knows means He lied ? I want an honest answer . 1 Like |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Barristter07: 11:12am On Dec 10, 2020 |
livingchrist:That analogy doesn't work because we are told earlier that It was the Father that appointed Jesus as Lord. So the problem with the Bolded is - Two persons know which willake Jesus a liar , cos the Father is just one person. |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 11:45am On Dec 10, 2020 |
Barristter07: See this deluded one! You want me to answer your question without answering mine! The question you're still dodging is: Then how can The Holy Spirit who SEARCHETH ALL THINGS of God and know the very MIND of God won't know the day? |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Emusan(m): 11:48am On Dec 10, 2020 |
Barristter07: You idiot say Jehovah has right to use His all-knowing attribute then when Jehovah said "Now I know" means Jehovah was lying because He knows already. Don't bother to use your sense. |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Barristter07: 12:01pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Emusan: He didn't know. , now I know is factual. He choose not to know. And he didn't until that moment. Back to the Matter , How could ONLY the Father knows be true when The Son knows already ? |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by livingchrist: 12:03pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Barristter07:hahahaha, if it cannot work here neither can it apply to what Jesus was saying. The Holy spirit is God so he knows that is why Jesus did not include him. |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Barristter07: 12:03pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Emusan: I don't believe holy spirit is a person. You that believe it's a person , does that not mean there are two persons that Knows rather than ONLy one that Jesus mentioned ? |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by livingchrist: 12:04pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Barristter07: ![]() Cc Emusan 1 Like |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Barristter07: 12:06pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
livingchrist:You are deluded, I told you the former case is a case of appointment. Who appoint The Father as the only one that knows ? |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Barristter07: 12:08pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
livingchrist: Jesus could be Lord because the Father Appointed him . Who appoint the Father in the case of Matt 24:36 ? |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by livingchrist: 12:18pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Barristter07:you are very daft! Appointment or no appointment has nothing to do with Jesus being the only Lord that has authority over the church. My question stands, since Jesus is the only Lord (appointed or not) over the church going by your logic the father is not Lord. Yeye |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Barristter07: 12:22pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
livingchrist: Appointment cancel your logic. He who appoint doesn't lose his position. He has power over the appointed Who appoint the Father at Matt 24:36 ? Until then , you have to face the music . |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by livingchrist: 12:48pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Barristter07: Do you have brain at all? Chai |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by livingchrist: 1:22pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Jesus 'I Am' statement Jehovah was the one who Identified himself as the I AM Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Jesus Identifies himself as the 'I AM' John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by livingchrist: 1:27pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Jehovah is the Lord of lords Deuteronomy 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward: In the new testament Jesus is Identified as the Lord of lords 1 Timothy 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; Revelation 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. Revelation 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. And since Jehovah would never give is glory or position to another, then we can conclude the Jesus is Jehovah God of the old testament. Isaiah 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by MightySparrow: 4:14pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
livingchrist:what do God use to create Jesus? |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by livingchrist: 6:28pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
MightySparrow:God didnt create Jesus |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Janosky: 6:39pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
livingchrist: Acts3:13. Revelation 3:12, John 20:17. Matthew 10:32 In heaven and earth Jesus remains the servant of his God and Father. Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by livingchrist: 6:46pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Janosky: See this one Is a high priest not a servant of God? Is Jesus not a high priest in heaven? So Jesus still holds the servant/minster position, even in heaven. Only a human can be a priest, so Jesus remains a human in heaven. |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Janosky: 7:02pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
livingchrist:Genesis 22:9-12 And they came to the place which God had told him of. And Abraham built the altar there, and laid the wood in order, and bound Isaac his son, and laid him on the altar, upon the wood. 10And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son. 11And the angel of Jehovah called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham. And he said, Here I am. 12And he said, Lay not thy hand upon the lad, neither do thou anything unto him. For now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son, from me" When did Yahweh know that Abraham is God-fearing? . According to your Bible, not Watchtower. STOP this lazy attitude to learning & addiction to spewing baseless trash.. ![]() |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Janosky: 7:08pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
livingchrist: John 17:5, 22,24.. Jesus Christ is teaching to receive SENSE. go figure out the truth. Or SENSE will desert you ![]() ![]() |
Re: Proof To Jehovah Witnesses That Jesus Is Jehovah. by Janosky: 7:15pm On Dec 10, 2020 |
Emusan: My LIENUS, Jehovah is NOT lying. Deuteronomy 30:19-20 is Proof. Why would Jehovah give Israel options to choose from , if he foreknows their choice? Yes, Jehovah choose to know what HE wants to know, at his discretion. Psalms 115:3 Our God is in the heavens; He does whatever he pleases Mr LIENUS ![]() |
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