jpmoriarti:
Valverde had a 29 yr old Messi, still banging goals and winning ballon d'or. Valverde had a hungry, younger Suarez at his peak. What did he achieve with them He achieved ultimate humiliation each year. Installed a chicken, fragile mentality on the players. The players collapse like a pack of cards once the pressure takes a slight notch. He created a Barcelona wallowing in utter mediocrity. Please, please don't bring Valverde in the same sentence here again.

Koeman on the other hand, is having to grapple with the consequences of wasted years. Consequences of having a group of players at the lowest ebb of their careers. Players whose mentality have taken a huge confidence knock. Players who have aged more. Messi is now 33 etc. A disbalanced squad with Players who have no place in the team. Players like Griezmann, Coutinho, Lenglet, Braithwaite sadly do not have a place in the team. I hope Koeman changes this but he has one of the worst jobs in club management right now.

Goldbringer:
If you still believe in clownman then I'm sorry for you

tesppidd:
Mtchew....

eople just be speaking worthless grammar upandan while the root cause of the problem stares them right in the face.

We saw David Villa shine in the presence of Messi.
We saw Pedro shine in the presence of Messi.
We saw Neymar shine in the presence of Messi.
We saw Suarez shine in the presence of Messi.
We have seen Dembele shine in the presence of Messi.
We have seen Fati shine in the presence of Messi.

*Fati was special but he's injured for months.
*Dembele always injured.
*Coutinho injured, prone to injury.
*Griezman flopping. They still tried him in his preferable position and still not done anything worthwhile.
*Pedri and Trincao. Nothing special that other rival teams do not have.

We have a bunch of absentie "world class" attackers.

The club has been buying flops in the name of preparing for the future.


We have got a situation where a 34 year old player can play 30 straight games without getting injured while our best young players like Fati, Dembele and Coutinho cannot play 10 straight matches.

The bulk of our problems still remains off the pitch.

Even if we bring back Alex Ferguson in his prime, the only dependable attackers available to him today would still be Messi, Puig and Pedri.

joviegghead:


There are those fans who will always criticise Messi.

I still don't understand why they decide to single out the guy.

Now comes the silly talk of the team not playing well with Messi.

I'm trying to picture this team facing a super club without Messi. I guess the ferencvaros and dynamo Kiev games have really blinded some to the problems we're facing. Because barca played those teams without messi and scored goals, their argument is messi disturbs the play of the team.

Messi is the problem. Take him out and our problems are solved. Really?!

tesppidd:


A lot of ineffective players hide under the cover of Messi.

You see Fati and Dembele? And Neymar?

When these 3 guys are on the ball, they don't even care whether Messi exists. They do their thing.

Fati for one really amazed me with his confidence and his balls.


If Koeman has got any sense at all, he would revert tactics and give Puig and Bratihwaite a good run..

GrammarNazi1:
Na Messi matter wan kill you so.

homesteady:
Is this not the same XI that played against Cadiz?

Godx:
Here is a perfect example someone identified on Twitter. Same shiit every match day. This isn’t
even about justt De jong. It’s about every player in our squad whosw first option is “pass to Messi”, When they are people in better position. There is a reason we play better without him.

tesppidd:
Mtchew....

People just be speaking worthless grammar upandan while the root cause of the problem stares them right in the face.

We saw David Villa shine in the presence of Messi.
We saw Pedro shine in the presence of Messi.
We saw Neymar shine in the presence of Messi.
We saw Suarez shine in the presence of Messi.
We have seen Dembele shine in the presence of Messi.
We have seen Fati shine in the presence of Messi.

*Fati was special but he's injured for months.
*Dembele always injured.
*Coutinho injured, prone to injury.
*Griezman flopping. They still tried him in his preferable position and still not done anything worthwhile.
*Pedri and Trincao. Nothing special that other rival teams do not have.

We have a bunch of absentie "world class" attackers.

The club has been buying flops in the name of preparing for the future.


We have got a situation where a 34 year old player can play 30 straight games without getting injured while our best young players like Fati, Dembele and Coutinho cannot play 10 straight matches.

The bulk of our problems still remains off the pitch.

Even if we bring back Alex Ferguson in his prime, the only dependable attackers available to him today would still be Messi, Puig and Pedri.


Koeman is the perfect scapegoat for all and sundry, sometimes Messi too, but our issues go way beyond that.

Melvyn11:
Messi in la liga
2 goals from open play.......✓
0 assist........✓
0 goals from open play in the Champions league with 26shots.......✓
Messi in 2020, 2 away goals..........✓
13 open play goals in the entire 2020.....✓

Man is finished

TLona1:


Most ballon d'ors won.
Never forget that

FirstbornWds:


[s] This point is baseless. Messi was not really "backward". It was a case of linking up with others without taking on passes. And guess what? The ball didn't stay back after the pass. You expect FDJ to always see that Trincao and Dest is open from that angle where he's still holding the ball? Like seriously? You think he has other eyes watching from the sidelines or from atop to see all of what you're critizing him about?

Really?


Messi is not the problem of the team. The team is the problem itself.


And you actually said the team plays better without Messi? Brcsje of the exploits against mediciore Dynamo and Ferv?


Why didn't they do the same against R.Betis until he came in?


It's obvious you're blinded by hate or should I call it sentiments... And if any of these isn't the case, you obviously are nothing but a casual football viewer, looking to make excuses for something that is wrong. [/s]

FirstbornWds:


This point is baseless. Messi was not really "backward". It was a case of linking up with others without taking on passes. And guess what? The ball didn't stay back after the pass. You expect FDJ to always see that Trincao and Dest is open from that angle where he's still holding the ball? Like seriously? You think he has other eyes watching from the sidelines or from atop to see all of what you're critizing him about?

Really?


Messi is not the problem of the team. The team is the problem itself.


And you actually said the team plays better without Messi? Brcsje of the exploits against mediciore Dynamo and Ferv?


Why didn't they do the same against R.Betis until he came in?


It's obvious you're blinded by hate or should I call it sentiments... And if any of these isn't the case, you obviously are nothing but a casual football viewer, looking to make excuses for something that is wrong.

Melvyn11:

Barca fans and unnecessary Shalaye

Asiiin eh even Messi is tired

Carbon2Oxide:
BARCELONA won't win a spoon with all these "PASS TO MESSI" tactics

Must you force MESSI score every game?
What kind of shitty board is this

He isn't winning the pichichi this season though

Certainly Not!