n3xt:
Plasterboard Installation

One of the biggest lies professional plasterboard installers will tell you is that it is unprofessional to install the boards directly to wood studs (e.g. noggins, wood partitions etc)

Is that true? NO!

To install plasterboards on wood studs, apply plasterboard adhesive (C1) before hanging and use screw gun to attach the boards to your frame. Nothing will happen to the boards

Why do I need to buy plasterboard metal studs/profiles when I have my noggins correctly installed

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Pic 1 - Amateur installers abroad hanging plasterboards directly to wood studs.


In Nigeria, there's always a problem for every solution.

cant it be nailed directly to the wood frame? as in Old asbestos ceiling way? and the nail covered with filler?

mountmoriah:
4 sitting is N90k, 6 is N140k with marble top

Fair price.
Location please.

Desanta:


Fair price.
Location please.

Sango ota

erico2k2:

cant it be nailed directly to the wood frame? as in Old asbestos ceiling way? and the nail covered with filler?

Yes. I’ll try share pic of where we did same few months ago.

n3xt:


Yes. I’ll try share pic of where we did same few months ago.

you know freestanding plasterboard are meant to be plastered, what is the name of that plaster material used as its not cement?got plaster board in my room's bathroom.

erico2k2:

you know freestanding plasterboard are meant to be plastered, what is the name of that plaster material used as its not cement?got plaster board in my room's bathroom.

First, you’d be better off with cement board in bath areas (e.g. kalsi board and the likes).

Secondly, you can use Sika Waterproof Cement/Adhesive to screed wet areas (bathrooms etc). 1kg Bag is sold N2,000

n3xt:


Thanks bro for your question.

My plasterboard guy is out of reach for some time now. I’m also not a POP contractor so I might not be able to do exactly what you’re looking for. I’m just an enduser like you and every other enquiry minds here.

However, here’s something I do whenever I’m working on POP and many other finishing works that are billed per m² :

1. Get a Breakdown Cost

Unfortunately I do not always accept a per m² on most of my bids. I always ask my tradespeople to furnish me with a quote which includes an outline plan for how the money estimated will be spent, and a breakdown of the items it will be spent on.

I always encourage the bidder to include his best rates as I don’t like doing too much negotiations.

The reason I don’t accept per m² billing is simply because I don't feel comfortable having someone bill a fixed rate for a specific element of the works that is not yet defined in enough detail for him to accurately price.

E.g. I don’t like too many decorations on my ceiling (just plain and cornices) but my wife would like us to have quoin, ceiling rose, dome, archs, cornices etc in some part of the project . Despite the difference, we were billed the same amount N8,000 per m²

2. My Build Route: Owner-Builder Approach

When building projects get to finishing stage, I always switch mode from a general contractor (a GC) to owner-builder/owner-contractor mode to physically handle some of the finishing work on my own.

This means I planned to exclude GCs (and their fees) altogether, and intend to directly oversee all the skilled trade subcontractors who do the actual field work.

The whole effort is to save money - nothing more.

Given this background, let’s compare costs of installing a traditional POP ceiling (using gypsum plaster) vs using plasterboard in a 12m² room.


________
POP Ceiling

POP Ceiling per m² - #8,000 (material and labour cost as at today)
POP Ceiling per m² - #800 - #1,500 (cost varies per design)
Bag of POP Cement - #10,200
Kg of POP sponge - #3,500

Number of Cornices* / Bag of POP Cemen - 7 (big cornice)

Note: smaller cornices can produce as much as 12 pcs per bag or even more. A 12m² room will use maximum of 1.5 bags of POP cement for cornice production.


Cost of 12m² room (#8,000 x 12m²) = #96,000 (material and labour)

Cost of 12m² room (#800 x 12m²) = #9,600 (labour only for cornice and screeding of a plain design)

________
Plasterboard

Plasterboard installation per m² = #12,000 (materials and labour cost as at today)
1.2 x 3m sheet of plasterboard = #7,000 - #9,000

* A sheet of 1.2 x 3m plasterboard will cover 3.6m². A 12m² room will require 3.5 plasterboards (estimated at #31,500)

** Professional installation of plasterboard (including the grills) is charged at 1,500 per m² (newly adjusted rate).

*** We are not installing the plasterboards the professional way as it’ll be used as a replacement for the POP boards. The 3 boards will be screwed to the ceiling noggin and held in place with the help of the cornices. The experience of the installer matters a lot here.

**** Adding the cost of producing 15m - 20m cornice and the cost of screeding a 12m² ceiling, plus the cost of hanging the plasterboards (N6k max), the total cost of installing a 12m² ceiling using Plasterboard as a replacement for the conventional POP boards will still be #10 - #15k cheaper.

Very interesting analysis. We don't intend to take business away from POP and plasterboard specialists, as most feed their family through this means. I guess we just need to get tough, when the tough gets going.
Could you please throw some light on this form of cieling?
I'd appreciate.

valencia2012:

Very interesting analysis. We don't intend to take business away from POP and plasterboard specialists, as most feed their family through this means. I guess we just need to get tough, when the tough gets going.
Could you please throw some light on this form of cieling?
I'd appreciate.

Coffered Ceiling. I’ll be right back sir.

n3xt:


Thanks bro for your question.

My plasterboard guy is out of reach for some time now. I’m also not a POP contractor so I might not be able to do exactly what you’re looking for. I’m just an enduser like you and every other enquiry minds here.

However, here’s something I do whenever I’m working on POP and many other finishing works that are billed per m² :

1. Get a Breakdown Cost

Unfortunately I do not always accept a per m² on most of my bids. I always ask my tradespeople to furnish me with a quote which includes an outline plan for how the money estimated will be spent, and a breakdown of the items it will be spent on.

I always encourage the bidder to include his best rates as I don’t like doing too much negotiations.

The reason I don’t accept per m² billing is simply because I don't feel comfortable having someone bill a fixed rate for a specific element of the works that is not yet defined in enough detail for him to accurately price.

E.g. I don’t like too many decorations on my ceiling (just plain and cornices) but my wife would like us to have quoin, ceiling rose, dome, archs, cornices etc in some part of the project . Despite the difference, we were billed the same amount N8,000 per m²

2. My Build Route: Owner-Builder Approach

When building projects get to finishing stage, I always switch mode from a general contractor (a GC) to owner-builder/owner-contractor mode to physically handle some of the finishing work on my own.

This means I planned to exclude GCs (and their fees) altogether, and intend to directly oversee all the skilled trade subcontractors who do the actual field work.

The whole effort is to save money - nothing more.

Given this background, let’s compare costs of installing a traditional POP ceiling (using gypsum plaster) vs using plasterboard in a 12m² room.


________
POP Ceiling

POP Ceiling per m² - #8,000 (material and labour cost as at today)
POP Ceiling per m² - #800 - #1,500 (cost varies per design)
Bag of POP Cement - #10,200
Kg of POP sponge - #3,500

Number of Cornices* / Bag of POP Cemen - 7 (big cornice)

Note: smaller cornices can produce as much as 12 pcs per bag or even more. A 12m² room will use maximum of 1.5 bags of POP cement for cornice production.


Cost of 12m² room (#8,000 x 12m²) = #96,000 (material and labour)

Cost of 12m² room (#800 x 12m²) = #9,600 (labour only for cornice and screeding of a plain design)

________
Plasterboard

Plasterboard installation per m² = #12,000 (materials and labour cost as at today)
1.2 x 3m sheet of plasterboard = #7,000 - #9,000

* A sheet of 1.2 x 3m plasterboard will cover 3.6m². A 12m² room will require 3.5 plasterboards (estimated at #31,500)

** Professional installation of plasterboard (including the grills) is charged at 1,500 per m² (newly adjusted rate).

*** We are not installing the plasterboards the professional way as it’ll be used as a replacement for the POP boards. The 3 boards will be screwed to the ceiling noggin and held in place with the help of the cornices. The experience of the installer matters a lot here.

**** Adding the cost of producing 15m - 20m cornice and the cost of screeding a 12m² ceiling, plus the cost of hanging the plasterboards (N6k max), the total cost of installing a 12m² ceiling using Plasterboard as a replacement for the conventional POP boards will still be #10 - #15k cheaper.

VERY IMPORTANT NOTE
Water and drywall (Plasterboard, sheetrock) are not friends-- mold

look for
Resistant Moisture-Resistant Drywall Sheet
Panels Mold Tough
You have to have a very good person that can mud the drywall
If good person that can mud the drywall you will not see the joint
If you have two carpenters on a daily pay you can install two rooms of drywall ceiling
Holding the drywall up to be screwed is the major stuff in installing drywall ceiling

If you want to install it by yourself
use
https://www.homedepot.com/c/ah/how-to-hang-drywall/9ba683603be9fa5395fab90cbb4826d

Desanta:


Fair price.
Location please.

where do u need it

Which one is better ; estate or stand alone land

Buharidgeneral:
Which one is better ; estate or stand alone land

Depend on location

stevemims:
I got the same response.

It may actually be a human response. I can spot 1 difference. The Dear Sir/ma in my response is replaced with your name.

twinskenny:


Depend on location

I am in Abuja

Good day House, please we just discovered that my already installed bathroom door should swing outwardly instead of inward cos of space, and the installer said to change the direction the door swings to, the door frames needs to be repositioned which will cause a lot of damages (including the wall tiles).
Please is there any possibility that this changes could be made (changing the direction the door swings to) without damaging much so as to avert much expenses.

erico2k2:

I think the Plasterboard is good to go cos down here its what we use, however, there are paint design you can put on them

we are yet to see a details price of plasterboard. If plasterboard can be lesser than POP, then I will definitely go for it.

OnyiiObi:
Good day House, please we just discovered that my already installed bathroom door should swing outwardly instead of inward cos of space, and the installer said to change the direction the door swings to, the door frames needs to be repositioned which will cause a lot of damages (including the wall tiles).
Please is there any possibility that this changes could be made (changing the direction the door swings to) without damaging much so as to avert much expenses.

Please help! I pray someone answers me

OnyiiObi:
Good day House, please we just discovered that my already installed bathroom door should swing outwardly instead of inward cos of space, and the installer said to change the direction the door swings to, the door frames needs to be repositioned which will cause a lot of damages (including the wall tiles).
Please is there any possibility that this changes could be made (changing the direction the door swings to) without damaging much so as to avert much expenses.

If its wooden frame its an Easy fix

GoodFaith:


VERY IMPORTANT NOTE
Water and drywall (Plasterboard, sheetrock) are not friends-- mold

look for
Resistant Moisture-Resistant Drywall Sheet
Panels Mold Tough
You have to have a very good person that can mud the drywall
If good person that can mud the drywall you will not see the joint
If you have two carpenters on a daily pay you can install two rooms of drywall ceiling
Holding the drywall up to be screwed is the major stuff in installing drywall ceiling

If you want to install it by yourself
use
https://www.homedepot.com/c/ah/how-to-hang-drywall/9ba683603be9fa5395fab90cbb4826d

is the MUD sold in here in 9ja

erico2k2:

If its wooden frame its an Easy fix

Please dear, how? I mean can it be done without damaging walls

OnyiiObi:
Good day House, please we just discovered that my already installed bathroom door should swing outwardly instead of inward cos of space, and the installer said to change the direction the door swings to, the door frames needs to be repositioned which will cause a lot of damages (including the wall tiles).
Please is there any possibility that this changes could be made (changing the direction the door swings to) without damaging much so as to avert much expenses.

unless you pull out the hinges. If not, you will have to pull out the whole door and still pull the hinges

michlins:
unless you pull out the hinges. If not, you will have to pull out the whole door and still pull the hinges

But can that solve the problem

OnyiiObi:

But can that solve the problem

what type of door is that and where is the position of the hinges. If you have a picture,it will definitely be great

Desanta:


Fair price.
Location please.

Very fair.

Godisgreatest1:


It may actually be a human response. I can spot 1 difference. The Dear Sir/ma in my response is replaced with your name.

That’s a simple thing to do.

michlins:
what type of door is that and where is the position of the hinges. If you have a picture,it will definitely be great

Ok I will get the picture

mountmoriah:
more designs still available

1) How much?

2) In stock?

3) Delivery to Ibadan?

Gracias.

I don't know the durability of these pop cement I have been seeing online

4900 looks cheap compared to Abs selling 9k

OnyiiObi:

Ok I will get the picture

here's what you're going to do,pull the hinges from the frame but you will have to be very careful not to damage the frame itself,then remove the hinges from the door and reposition the door as you would want it to open, depending on the health of the hinges after enduring all the stress, you can either use it again or buy a new one and install. Thirty minutes is enough time to do all these and still clean up the door by a professional

Guys, please help my client select the best look to his new house,

1st picture: The 3d rendition from the original architect (we didn't like the look)

2nd picture: A picture my client picked and loves for me to use it to replace the first picture.

3rd picture: The new design I worked out with my architect (Phildecasa) so we can use it to replace 1 and 2.

The question now is which of the views should we use, which do you think looks better for this house we are just starting to build?

Thanks for your comments.

https://www.nairaland.com/6272551/making-contemporary-5-bedroom-duplex

michlins:
what type of door is that and where is the position of the hinges. If you have a picture,it will definitely be great

It's difficult for me to get a clear picture of the door, but it's American Panel Door and some of the door hinges are positioned on the right while some on left ( it's several bathroom doors)