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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 5:43pm On Dec 17, 2020
nannymcphee:
Hello house, I read somewhere but I havent seen extensive post on the subject


That land used for cassava farming poses a threat for building foundation, please any truth to this
See format ahaha who came up wiv that craaaaaap grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rexology: 6:26pm On Dec 17, 2020
Professionals, please make una help me profer solution to this crack.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Amastermovic(m): 7:37pm On Dec 17, 2020
Rexology:
Professionals, please make una help me profer solution to this crack.

The wall section is not sufficient to take the self weight of the beam itself now u have ur roof load wall load and self weight of ur beam on the angle not more than 225mm max..

if the lintel had come out a little beam u could have lap it well there's always a satisfactory lap for this kind of thing it can kills when there's an uplift action from wind and u tie ur roof to this particular member at the terrace

solution from my own view since the load is small u can introduce a dummy column to receive the stress ..safer this way since we can't estimate how solid ur strip is or block..

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by omanzo02: 7:48pm On Dec 17, 2020
Amastermovic:


The wall section is not sufficient to take the self weight of the beam itself now u have ur roof load wall load and self weight of ur beam on the angle not more than 225mm max..

if the lintel had come out a little beam u could have lap it well there's always a satisfactory lap for this kind of thing it can kills when there's wind

solution from my own view since the load is small u can introduce a dummy column to receive the stress ..
I don't know how sound ur strip foundation is I don't want to gve d general solution thanks

Reason why one should always include columns for safety, whether bungalow, Kobo kobo project or not.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rexology: 9:47pm On Dec 17, 2020
Amastermovic:


The wall section is not sufficient to take the self weight of the beam itself now u have ur roof load wall load and self weight of ur beam on the angle not more than 225mm max..

if the lintel had come out a little beam u could have lap it well there's always a satisfactory lap for this kind of thing it can kills when there's an uplift action from wind and u tie ur roof to this particular member at the terrace

solution from my own view since the load is small u can introduce a dummy column to receive the stress ..safer this way since we can't estimate how solid ur strip is or block..
Thank you for taking your time to respond to me.Please what is "dummy column"?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:54pm On Dec 17, 2020
omanzo02:


Reason why one should always include columns for safety, whether bungalow, Kobo kobo project or not.

Another thing to watch out for is precast parapet.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rexology: 9:54pm On Dec 17, 2020
omanzo02:


Reason why one should always include columns for safety, whether bungalow, Kobo kobo project or not.
The lintel of that building is chained to all the column at every corner.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:15pm On Dec 17, 2020
Rexology:

The lintel of that building is chained to all the column at every corner.

The wall seems to be 6 inches hollow block. Am I right?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ArcToyin(m): 11:02pm On Dec 17, 2020
Jasobry:


I dressed before roofing. Excellent job done. My neighbours regreted roofing before dressing the parapet

Really, how?
I dressed after roofing and it was wonderfully done.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 11:27pm On Dec 17, 2020
princenomics:
Good afternoon House, please where can I buy coconut fiber? I want to construct my biodigester myself.

Ooooh. Is that what digests the waste?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 11:33pm On Dec 17, 2020
nannymcphee:
Hello house, I read somewhere but I havent seen extensive post on the subject


That land used for cassava farming poses a threat for building foundation, please any truth to this

Maybe spiritually.

But physically, once you remove top soil up to 200mm, it should get rid of loamy soil. Thereafter, dig your foundation. No cassava can stand in the way.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rexology: 11:39pm On Dec 17, 2020
n3xt:


The wall seems to be 6 inches hollow block. Am I right?
Yes!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by valencia2012(m): 12:52am On Dec 18, 2020
ArcToyin:


Really, how?
I dressed after roofing and it was wonderfully done.

Hmmmmmmmm....
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 1:00am On Dec 18, 2020
Rexology:
Professionals, please make una help me profer solution to this crack.

It is either your builder took his eyes off the ball (lack of attention to details) or possibly a cowboy builder. Take a careful look at the pictures I have attached including your original picture.

In your picture (with the red arrow) you will notice that the cross beam is placed directly on the blocks without a column underneath the beam. At that point, I have arrowed in red, there should have been a column to bear the load. But without that column, the blocks are serving as load-bearing (with the generally poor quality of Nigerian blocks), and not making a good job of spreading the dead load of the beam and the roof. This is the cause of the crack.

The best practice is for the cross beam to rest on the LINTEL. Take a look at my pictures (red highlighting). The all-round chaining of the lintel spread the dead load better and effectively. That is the structural purpose of all-round chaining. With your building, your builder failed to take advantage of the chain lintel by not placing the cross beam on the lintel instead he/she placed the beam directly on the blocks. This is asking for trouble in most cases.

SOLUTION
Introduce a column underneath the beam (the red arrow) - DIY approach or talk to a structural engineer if you don't feel confident.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:47am On Dec 18, 2020
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 2:57am On Dec 18, 2020
ArcToyin:


Really, how?
I dressed after roofing and it was wonderfully done.

To avoid cement stains on the roofing sheets and ensure that the parapet is well dressed.i plastered after the carpentry work. My parapet doesn't need screeding as the mason did a good job

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Focusmind: 5:52am On Dec 18, 2020
diordaves:


It is either your builder took his eyes off the ball (lack of attention to details) or possibly a cowboy builder. Take a careful look at the pictures I have attached including your original picture.

In your picture (with the red arrow) you will notice that the cross beam is placed directly on the blocks without a column underneath the beam. At that point, I have arrowed in red, there should have been a column to bear the load. But without that column, the blocks are serving as load-bearing (with the generally poor quality of Nigerian blocks), and not making a good job of spreading the dead load of the beam and the roof. This is the cause of the crack.

The best practice is for the cross beam to rest on the LINTEL. Take a look at my pictures (red highlighting). The all-round chaining of the lintel spread the dead load better and effectively. That is the structural purpose of all-round chaining. With your building, your builder failed to take advantage of the chain lintel by not placing the cross beam on the lintel instead he/she placed the beam directly on the blocks. This is asking for trouble in most cases.

SOLUTION
Introduce a column underneath the beam (the red arrow) - DIY approach or talk to a structural engineer if you don't feel confident.


I have couples of locations in my build, especially internal door areas where the beams rested on the blocks. I didn't see cracks on the wall. I have also seen it in other people's builds in my area.

During the plastering stage of my house, those Togolese guys were consuming so much cement in plastering and when I asked them, they said some door beams areas didn't have column and they needed so much thick plaster on the entire walls, in and out, to avoid any visible cracks on the wall later.

It is up to one year now that I did plastering of the house and haven't seen any visible cracks on the walls like the one shown here.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:02am On Dec 18, 2020
Focusmind:


I have couples of locations in my build, especially internal door areas where the beams rested on the blocks. I didn't see cracks on the wall. I have also seen it in other people's builds in my area.

During the plastering stage of my house, those Togolese guys were consuming so much cement in plastering and when I asked them, they said some door beams areas didn't have column and they needed so much thick plaster on the entire walls, in and out, to avoid any visible cracks on the wall later.

It is up to one year now that I did plastering of the house and haven't seen any visible cracks on the walls like the one shown here.

It could be any of the following:

- You use 9in strong and solid block.
- Your foundation is well compacted.
- Your structural design is cool
- Your build wasn’t rushed.

Believe me it has nothing to do with the thickness of the plastering.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Focusmind: 6:23am On Dec 18, 2020
n3xt:


It could be any of the following:

- You use 9in strong and solid block.
- Your foundation is well compacted.
- Your structural design is cool
- Your build wasn’t rushed.

Believe me it has nothing to do with the thickness of the plastering.

You are not far from the truth. The four listed points above are applicable. Nine inch were used. My foundation after sand filling the raft was left for more than 18months with rain hitting it, fully compacted and weeds even started growing there before we started the German floor.

As a kobo kobo man, the build is not rushed. It has helped me also to rectify certain defects as the build progresses. That's one of the advantages of slow and steady work.

Apart from the additional large windows mounted this year as we opened up more walls, we haven't done anything this year.

Na that your DIY matter I still the reason grin. I am a. DIY person, but for building, it is a hard work for me.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:01am On Dec 18, 2020
Focusmind:


You are not far from the truth. The four listed points above are applicable. Nine inch were used. My foundation after sand filling the raft was left for more than 18months with rain hitting it, fully compacted and weeds even started growing there before we started the German floor.

As a kobo kobo man, the build is not rushed. It has helped me also to rectify certain defects as the build progresses. That's one of the advantages of slow and steady work.

Apart from the additional large windows mounted this year as we opened up more walls, we haven't done anything this year.

Na that your DIY matter I still the reason grin. I am a. DIY person, but for building, it is a hard work for me.

The “fixed-mindset” and the “this-is-How-we-do-it” attitude of our artisans made me become a DIY enthusiast.

The first step is always the hardest.

I don’t handle every project by myself. I only equip myself with everything needed to carry out major DIY projects including the tools, materials and the skilled professionals.
I show them the first step and ask them to replicate and perfect it.

Guess what? They’re all enjoying it.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rexology: 8:44am On Dec 18, 2020
diordaves:


It is either your builder took his eyes off the ball (lack of attention to details) or possibly a cowboy builder. Take a careful look at the pictures I have attached including your original picture.

In your picture (with the red arrow) you will notice that the cross beam is placed directly on the blocks without a column underneath the beam. At that point, I have arrowed in red, there should have been a column to bear the load. But without that column, the blocks are serving as load-bearing (with the generally poor quality of Nigerian blocks), and not making a good job of spreading the dead load of the beam and the roof. This is the cause of the crack.

The best practice is for the cross beam to rest on the LINTEL. Take a look at my pictures (red highlighting). The all-round chaining of the lintel spread the dead load better and effectively. That is the structural purpose of all-round chaining. With your building, your builder failed to take advantage of the chain lintel by not placing the cross beam on the lintel instead he/she placed the beam directly on the blocks. This is asking for trouble in most cases.

SOLUTION
Introduce a column underneath the beam (the red arrow) - DIY approach or talk to a structural engineer if you don't feel confident.

Thank you very much, I really appreciate this.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 9:20am On Dec 18, 2020
Focusmind:


I have couples of locations in my build, especially internal door areas where the beams rested on the blocks. I didn't see cracks on the wall. I have also seen it in other people's builds in my area.

During the plastering stage of my house, those Togolese guys were consuming so much cement in plastering and when I asked them, they said some door beams areas didn't have column and they needed so much thick plaster on the entire walls, in and out, to avoid any visible cracks on the wall later.

It is up to one year now that I did plastering of the house and haven't seen any visible cracks on the walls like the one shown here.

Your blocks are putting up a better job of spreading the load in your situation. It's not the plaster job. Plaster can only paper over the crack. Plaster work is just decoration, not structural.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by omanzo02: 9:29am On Dec 18, 2020
Rexology:

The lintel of that building is chained to all the column at every corner.
It's clear the build has columns, but from the picture earlier you can see the point where the crack occurred has no support, in my lame man opinion the crack is due to the combination of mass and gravity vs resistance force (column)......I think your architect or builder has some questions to answer there.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yinkaoke(f): 9:49am On Dec 18, 2020
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Focusmind: 10:28am On Dec 18, 2020
diordaves:


Your blocks are putting up a better job of spreading the load in your situation. It's not the plaster job. Plaster can only paper over the crack. Plaster work is just decoration, not structural.

You are right. It has to be block
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ArcToyin(m): 11:24am On Dec 18, 2020
Jasobry:


To avoid cement stains on the roofing sheets and ensure that the parapet is well dressed.i plastered after the carpentry work. My parapet doesn't need screeding as the mason did a good job

We are on same page. Below was the one last one i did.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 12:24pm On Dec 18, 2020
One of the guys working.

These guys are trying oo
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 12:28pm On Dec 18, 2020
Chekitaut how much is 20 tonne and 30 tonne sharp sand to Ayobo.

It does not have to be shaka odo ogun
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jasobry: 12:48pm On Dec 18, 2020
ArcToyin:


We are on same page. Below was the one last one i did.

Mine was before roofing,yours na after.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 12:59pm On Dec 18, 2020
After consuming 100 bags, my Beninois guys are demanding for additional 80 bags of POP Cement.

May God help builders in Nigeria at this time

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by fabulous85: 1:02pm On Dec 18, 2020
davodyguy:
After consuming 100 bags, my Beninois guys are demanding for additional 80 bags of POP Cement.

May God help builders in Nigeria at this time
pls is it a bungalow or duplex? how big is the house? �kai am in trouble
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 1:03pm On Dec 18, 2020
fabulous85:
pls is it a bungalow or duplex? how big is the house? �kai am in trouble
A detached house

Approximately 400sqm gross developed area

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