paulolee:
thats nice....he is a good goal machine and I see him breaking that bican record if he stays active in the next 2-3 years...
I keep saying cr7 may be a good goal poacher but that doesn't mean he is the GOAT because of an alien called Lionel messi because being the GOAT isnt about just goals..
if its about goals, bican and puskas would be heading the GOAT arguments because of those mad goal to game ratio, its insane

chatinent:
Now he's top-notch, everyone is forgetting that in local soccer, what he does is selfish play.

chatinent:
Now he's top-notch, everyone is forgetting that in local soccer, what he does is selfish play.

Beverlyjean:


Alien that can't win champions league , world cup or copa America... he must b an alien from the seas ... claiming greatest with only la liga titles ...same thing Lewandowski has been doing with bayern over the years

DesChyko:


Isn't it?

He is too selfish for my liking to be very honest.

Just imagine the screenshot below

paulolee:

we know all these, this is just the UCL not his total assist which seems low, cr7 played more like a striker and is more about scoring goals than assists.

DesChyko:


I put it to you that Ronaldo has more assists than almost any 'unselfish' player you mention here and now.

paulolee:

the last time I checked which was last month, lionel messi had 70 more assist than cr7, everyone knows messi have an edge over him in assists na...I dnt understand your argument again o..
if you are talking about UCL assist, jus know its unfair because almost all those players are old timers and they didn't play in the UCL...e.g pele

paulolee:

the last time I checked which was last month, lionel messi had 70 more assist than cr7, everyone knows messi have an edge over him in assists na...I dnt understand your argument again o..
if you are talking about UCL assist, jus know its unfair because almost all those players are old timers and they didn't play in the UCL...e.g pele

babakb:


That's the problem, you guys claim that Cr7 is selfish yet only Messi is ahead of him in terms of Assists in the history of the game.

Just say you prefer Messi to Cr7 period.

Besides Cr7 never had prolific teammates that will convert most of his Assists, over the years Messi has had teammates like Neymar, Suarez, Eto'o, Ronaldinho, Iniesta, Xavi, Villa, Coutinho etc these guys are so clinical in front of goal that convert assists from Messi.

DesChyko:


1. Lionel Messi (who is behind Ronaldo in UCL though). Which other unselfish player has more career assists than Ronaldo?

Let's discuss this selfish player thing objectively.

DesChyko:


1. Lionel Messi (who is behind Ronaldo in UCL assists though). Which other unselfish player has more career assists than Ronaldo?

Let's discuss this selfish player thing objectively.

DesChyko:


1. Lionel Messi (who is behind Ronaldo in UCL assists though). Which other unselfish player has more career assists than Ronaldo?

Let's discuss this selfish player thing objectively.

paulolee:

my point is dt you are getting it all wrong cr7 got more assist than some players because he have played more matches than almost all of them, for example cr7 have just 6 assit more than messi despite playing 27 matches more..
jus try and bury sentiments n answer me, do you think messi wont shatter that 6 assit record with just 3 games if cr7 stops football earlier than messi??

paulolee:
thats nice....he is a good goal machine and I see him breaking that bican record if he stays active in the next 2-3 years...
I keep saying cr7 may be a good goal poacher but that doesn't mean he is the GOAT because of an alien called Lionel messi because being the GOAT isnt about just goals..
if its about goals, bican and puskas would be leading the GOAT arguments because of those mad goal to game ratio, unlike cr7 that have played almost 1000+ games more than all players on the list..

DesChyko:


Your point is because you probably didn't understand the post you quoted.
All the while you keep mentioning one player in this assist discussion, 'Messi'.
If you have read that post well, you will find that Messi was already accounted for.
Is Messi the only unselfish player on football?

In rebuttal to the last point you raised, Ronaldo didn't just become the leader overnight. He has held that record for a couple of years now (3 years after ousting former teammate Ryan Giggs). Some of those times, Messi had had more games. Yet

So it really isn't about what happens after retirement.

DesChyko:


Sensible submission. Yet all these long list of unselfish players absolutely line up behind Ronaldo in assists tally.

paulolee:

messi only flaws is not winning an international trophy with his country BT he had won numbers of trophies in club football EVEN MORE THAN CR7 THAT PLAYED 124 MORE MATCHES THAN HIM..
in case u forget cr7 spent his peak years in spain and still couldn't win the simple la liga titles with madrid because he won jus 2 la liga in almost 10 seasons..
lastly messi is still the ONLY PLAYER WITH MORE BALLON D OR, so let your goat thats playing catch up equal him first before you start comparing them if you think he is better..

babakb:


That's the problem, you guys claim that Cr7 is selfish yet only Messi is ahead of him in terms of Assists in the history of the game.

Just say you prefer Messi to Cr7 period.

Besides Cr7 never had prolific teammates that will convert most of his Assists, over the years Messi has had teammates like Neymar, Suarez, Eto'o, Ronaldinho, Iniesta, Xavi, Villa, Coutinho etc these guys are so clinical in front of goal that they convert assists from Messi.

Beverlyjean:


CL is the most prestigious club trophy and not the league ...CL is the holy grail of club football... in Ronaldo's 9 yrs in Spain, he doubled the number of CL won by messi and the same period and won 6 CL golden boots in 9 yrs.... if the league is the Mercedes-Benz G class, the CL is the Mercedes-Benz maybach...its an exclusive title cos 2 clubs can't win the CL ,just like the World Cup... let messi win an international trophy first b4 u start to compare him with Ronaldo and other greats ... Zara was the highest goal scorer in the history of Spanish league b4 messi and Ronaldo broke his record set bk in the 50s ... but no one remembers him ... we only heard that name when they were about to break that record... but mention pele, Maradona, zidane, Platini, Rossi , van Basten, berkanbua and it clicks even as we dint watch them play ... messi will end up like di stefano, cruyff , zara, shearer...keep on decieving urself... pele isn't remembered for the goals and trophies he won at Santos, Maradona is not 1st remembered for what he did for napoli, zidane is not remembered for the fantastic winning goal in the CL final, Platini is not remembered for giving juve their first CL title, they are all remembered 1st for what they did for their country...

paulolee:

all I saw are writings filled with sentiments...
1..cr7 had won only I UCL ahead of messi n dnt see where that double is coming from..
2..cr7 won many ucl golden boot dt dnt count n isn't important and the main European golden boot for all leagues dt messi have won more than him..
3..said all those greats aint remembered for goals but because of world cup they won but your cr7 haven't seen what a world cup finally seems like but messi have been there, wasnt lucky bit ended up with a world cup golden ball as the best player
4...still insist that messi only flaws is that he isnt lucky enough to win any international trophy because he isnt perfect but your cr7 dnt come close in messi's individual achievements e.g ballon d or..
finally my joy is that when they are done and the next generations are searching for answers on who is BETTER or the real GOAT, MESSI would have an edge because he have WON MORE TROPHIES AND THE THE PRESTIGIOUS BALLON D OR AWARD MORE THAN ANY OTHER PLAYER DEAD OR ALIVE....U DIG??

Beverlyjean:


Balon dor is crap cos xavi or iniesta never won balon dor doesn't mean modric is better ... van dyke won best European player ,something ramos never won, does that mean van dyke is better?? Forlan won golden ball in 2010 , but was he better than sneijner in that world cup?? Awards are crap... cos fifa will give it to who they wanna give it to... we know Messi dint even deserve to b nominated in the 2010 balon dor... forlan, villa, iniesta, xavi, casillas, sneijder all performed better but blatter and his wayo... I said in Ronaldo's 9yrs in Spain he doubled the number of CL titles Messi won when Ronaldo was in Spain...that they decide to give golden boot to top leagues scorers don't discredit the CL as well cos it also has it records and awards...Platini never won a world Cup so as van Basten, but they won the European cups... appearing in a final is not an achievement cos sneijner, modric have also appeared in world cup final but no one gives a crap cos no one remembers who came second ...we only remember winners and not loosers
Talking about trophies...that he has won more laliga trophies ?? Lol ...u are a clown... ronaldo,multiple premiership, fa cup , la liga, kings cup , Champions league, fifa club world cup, serie a , nations league, European Cup... ur messi has only la liga, kings cup and champions league...fake goat

Beverlyjean:


Alien that can't win champions league , world cup or copa America... he must b an alien from the seas ... claiming greatest with only la liga titles ...same thing Lewandowski has been doing with bayern over the years

chiboy1116:
stfu lewandowski hasn't even won the golden boot lmao . He just got his first UCL . Go cry somewhere else . Messi is the greatest player ever , Ronaldo is just a goal machine.

Beverlyjean:


Greatest player in ur delusional head... la liga , CL that he won ages ago nothing more...he isn't even as successful as zidane ...messi is just a la liga goal scorer ..nothing more