Macsjebs:
Somehow.
BVN and NIN is synchronized already.

...My experience in a new redeem parish attended today was somewhat embarrassing but lessons learnt!!!

I am just a shy, introverted guy whose intention wasn't to cause any form of distraction, but then I realized to be that 'prince charming' every lady would stylishly draw close to & start a conversation with, you only have to make your presence felt.

I use to think the many reviews Nairalanders posted on the thread on my signature are overhyped; but my experiences with ladies lately proves our alluring fragrances makes one magnetically attractive & irresistible

This guy u be serious hustler.

Serap and sensationalism

I knw this can nt work for now and if it works i will b very happy if they block my line no more on how 2buy data or load card on my phone

optimusprime2:
No I don't agree to this...
There has to be a root database that can link to the other identification means, and in this case the NIN is the social security number.

BVN
Passport
And Drivers licence creates room for multiple databases therefore complicating the social security system.

I support the NiN to be registered to a number and the number to the BVN and BVN to the driver's licence/passport student id or whatever id that the citizen posseses, the NIN being the root Database which contains all data, thereby making the national identity card an integrated piece of identification, that is compulsory for every citizen.

That would make the national card viable for travelling within visa free regions in the absence of a passport. And for petes sake make the card electronic!

Sometimes I wonder about people in leadership positions in Nigeria honestly...

The database with your finger print and picture should be the root . Eg bvn


All existing databases should be linked to this.

Eg.if you have bvn , you should be able to register for nin online by answering a few security questions like date of birth.

Once your nin is set up , just update all the phone numbers on the platform.

Nobody is saying it's a wrong innovation, we know it's good
but the timing is wrong, like several people said , this nimc was a failure from the onset, i registered i never got the real number or the real card

also now that every country is shutting down they are opening registration centres up and down for an excercise that should have been completed more than 8 years ago ?

SERAP is not your enemy, unless you want Buhari to silence them too , they actually are one of the few organizations that embarrass Buhari when his stupdity manifests

As for Patanla , i do not think he knows what he's doing either , Nigerians shouldn't be coerced into doing any silly registration at this time of pandemic

it's as simple as that

Exc2000:




What is wrong. With SERAP


Kidnappers , Boko Haram don't have BVN , voters card or international passport


NIN cost nothing, within few minutes you are captured, 2 weeks you get your number from anywhere

Look we must have real time database of ourselves for security reasons, activism is not about killing all Goverment policy with complains

*Insecurity is everywhere and police claim they lack equipment, and have poor salary, Buhari and Federal Government suggested a New Police Act where 1% to 3% of our National earnings goes to Nigerian Police Force - Nigerian Governors rushed to block it at the court without offering solutions

*FG and Pantami stated that not everyone has a bank account , so not all have BVN and our BVN or Voters card is useless when it comes to fighting Boko Haram, Kidnapping, bandits ... He proposed we all register ourselves to Jonathan's National Identity Number, Something similar to Americas Social Security Number SSN, - SERAP are here again to stop this idea without creating alternative solution






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Wantedmiller:
Every body with his or her own wahala....


Everybody must be heard.........


Abeg.....who be this people?

Go read up about them. I believe you can read and write.

Toothless bull dogs always giving meaningless warnings up and down

Coronabirus:
This has proven SERAP as a big failure concerning legal matters. I worked in bank and I know lot of legal things concerning privacy policy of all these platforms they mentioned. You can't verify someone's BVN, NIN or any other ID without the consent and or presence of the holder of the ID card, it's a big breach to law unless when court order is taken.
Honestly, SERAP's suggestion seems wiser and easier but is very very dangerous to our privacy & complicated to the NSPs. Many ppl are using pre-registered SIM cards on those platforms but this current order will give clear picture and consent of clients on the possession of SIM cards.
The most important things for everyone challenging this move to learn is, all those ID cards mentioned can't be obtained for persons below 18yrs including BVN but NIN can be obtained at all age.
Honestly, the SERAP and those who back them have lost their intelligence concerning this debate because govt have more reasons to stand by their order than them.

Are you sure that Nigerian passport can not be obtained for persons below 18?

Tobbydhayor90:


http://serap-nigeria.org/2020/12/20/serap-asks-buhari-to-stop-nin-registration-withdraw-threat-to-block-sim-cards/

Useless government, they have my voters card, my national ID card, my bvn what else are they looking from me just ffffffing useless and clueless why not use those information and do ur. Terrible harmonization

Exc2000:



Not everyone has bank account or BVN

We need something. To track Kidnappers, Boko Haram and bandits outside BVN and sim registration with National Identity Number

Then you think NIN number will be business of everyone

Even in USA... Not everyone has federal identity!!

Cry

The beloved country.

What is more disturbing is that, with all the things wrong with this country and going on. NIN is what they are all focusing on.
This government na “anywhere belle face”

The only time I was serious about getting this sh!t was when I thought I was leaving the country ruled by stupid people, for good

jajeri3216:


The database with your finger print and picture should be the root . Eg bvn


All existing databases should be linked to this.

Eg.if you have bvn , you should be able to register for nin online by answering a few security questions like date of birth.

Once your nin is set up , just update all the phone numbers on the platform.

Good idea.

Honestly, we do not have a country, this is a cave.

This Pantami dude is a hopeless case of an idiotic powermonger who thinks he can issue edicts without recourse to law.

He's failed in his most basic responsibility, and must be replaced by a more competent person.

SERAPs proposed suit is in order

There is another suit on this matter https://thenigerialawyer.com/civil-society-groups-sue-minister-ncc-others-over-blocking-of-telephone-lines/

And yet another https://thenigerialawyer.com/sim-card-and-nin-ex-nba-vp-ubani-drags-fg-to-court-says-two-weeks-ultimatum-will-work-hardship-on-him/

These suits are in order. This is a clear case of executive overreach unless the reverse can be proven. The Honourable Minister of Communications and Digital Economy with all due respect has exceeded the bounds of the powers of his office. He is acting ultra vires. He needs to be reined in.

Our courts have done this before. In 2016, the Court of Appeal in FAITH OKAFOR V LAGOS STATE GOVERNMENT & ANOR [2016] LPELR-41066(CA) per Biobele Abraham Georgewill J.C.A had to answer the question of whether the directive of a State Governor which is not codified in a statute can amount to a breach of fundamental human right: That court held in part

"This is what Citizen Faith Okafor has complained about in this appeal, having herself become a victim. The Court below saw nothing and said nothing. It could neither understand nor stand or countenance the temerity of Citizen Faith Okafor in challenging, as it were, the directive of the Government of Lagos State that every person must stay at home and away from the streets of Lagos State on every last Saturday of the month save those so authorized to be on the street. Under Section 41(2) of the 1999 Constitution (as amended), for any law or every direction by the Respondent to merit justification, the restriction must be directed at any person who has committed or is reasonably suspected to have committed a criminal offence. Anything otherwise renders such a law or directive of the Governor of Lagos State unconstitutional, unlawful and illegal and thus to restrict the movement of every person, Citizens of this great country, who has neither committed any offence nor reasonably suspected of having committed a criminal offence in the name of enforcing sanitation directives of the Governor of Lagos State without any force of law is highly reprehensible, since it is unconstitutional. It is my view, that democracy thrives more on obeying and promoting the rule of law rather than the whims and caprices of the leaders against the lead. I find the conduct of the Respondent in not only persecuting the Appellant, yes that is what in my view it amounts to when a free Citizen of this great Country such as Citizen Faith Okafor, is put through the rigours of criminal process for an offence not prescribed in any written law but merely on the directive of the Governor of the Lagos State. An action which if allowed to thrive in a democracy such as ours could confer on such office holders infinite, absolute and autocratic powers contrary to the clear provisions of the Constitution of the land, to which both the leaders and the led are subject. I refuse to allow such autocratic, absolute and infinite powers to fester upon our nascent democracy. The Respondents, therefore, lacks the power in law to direct or order not only the restriction of movement of any and every person who has not committed any offence or is not reasonably suspected of having committed any criminal offence but also their prosecution, conviction and punishment for any offence not prescribed in any written law. The Respondent thus has no such carte blank cheque to direct the restriction of movement of free and innocent citizens of this country, merely because they reside or find themselves in the centre of excellence, Lagos State, on the streets of Lagos State on the last Saturday of the each month and prosecuting and convicting such persons, like the Appellant, for any offence not prescribed by any written law as an offence in Lagos State.

Applying the law to the facts, if a Governor of a State had no right whatsoever to impose his will on a citizen unless that will was captured in legislation, then the Honourable Minister of Communications and Digital Economy has no power whatsoever to place restrictions on the fundamental right to freedom of expression that did not align with constitutional provisions.

In plain English, unless it can be proven that the Honourable Minister's actions are backed by law, then this is not a case of enforcing the law, but a case of breaking law by the very arm of government tasked with ensuring that the law is enforced - that is the executive.

The fundamental right to freedom of expression and the press is enshrined in Section 39 of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.
It is not an absolute right. It has 5 limitations.

This right can be limited only by laws and not directives of the Honourable Minister that have not passed legislative scrutiny. The Honourable Minister should do the needful and align his proposals with the rule of law stand of the current administration.

Learn more about your constitutional rights with the help of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl8Dp5_CGiI

In 2013, the Court of Appeal in AG & COMMISSIONER OF JUSTICE, KEBBI STATE V HRH, ALHAJI AL-MUSTAPHA JOKOLO & ORS [2013] LPELR-22349 (CA) per Joseph Tine Tur, J.C.A had reason to determine how Section 41(2)(b)(ii) 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (as amended) would apply when it said in part:

" The further intention of the Constitution is that restriction or curtailment of the rights of an individual to move freely within and outside Nigeria or reside in any part of the country should be in accordance with the provisions of Section 41 of the Constitution… No body or authority can interfere with any of the fundamental rights enshrined under Chapter IV of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, except on the condition that can be supported before a Court of justice…. The executive powers of the Governor of any State must be exercised in accordance with law else the Courts will not shy from holding as invalid any law, an executive or administrative action that is not reasonably justifiable in a democratic society, be it in the interest of defence, public safety, public order, public morality, or public health, or that it is not for the purpose of protecting the rights and freedoms of persons in any part of the Federation. The Courts shall intervene to curtail or nullify abuse of powers and authority not supported by law. See GOVERNOR OF LAGOS STATE VS. OJUKWU [1989] 3 NWLR (Pt.18) 621, and OBEYA MEMORIAL SPECIALIST HOSPITAL VS. ATTORNEY-GENERAL OF THE FEDERATION & ORS. [1987] 3 NWLR (Pt.60) 325.

Applying the law to the proposals of the Honourable Minister, unless it can be proven that his directive issues from the law, his curtailment or attempts to curtail the fundamental right to freedom of expression are not in line with the Constitution.

Only then can his directives be supportable before a court of justice. Until then the executive powers of the Honourable Minister has been exercised in discordance with Nigeria's immutable law - the Constitution of the law which the Honourable Minister ought to uphold

There is thus every likelihood that our courts will hold his actions as invalid and not reasonable justifiable. The courts shall have no choice but to intervene, curtail and nullify the said abuse of powers and authority for lack of conformity with our laws

Haven’t looked closely at this NIN Registration but if it’s about registering Nigerians then good, Nigerians need to be registered in any and everyway possible. Nigeria is becoming too sophisticated to continue with the current absolute freedom everyone enjoys -including enjoy exploiting. The western nations’ majority of Nigerians seem to see as heaven do not grant their citizens one-third the freedom. I’m sure these western nations know better than you, everyday Joe-Nigerians Tunde-Nigerians on here. .

This is a wrong move by serap, what they should have asked for is extension.
Linking sim numbers to NIN will go a long way in curbing fraudsters activities.

poseidon12:


Are you sure that Nigerian passport can not be obtained for persons below 18?

it can be but very few ppl have passports in Nigeria, leads than 40m ppl have BVN in Nigeria and only NIN is compulsory out of all those requirements.

Useless idiots that don't know what to do again other than to block people's Sim cards, whereas the whole country is totally messed up, instead of sitting your useless ass holes down and restructure your useless and annoying country your there yapping rubbish.
May shame catch all of you fools.

Thanks to SERAP for your reasonable reasoning and efforts on this one.

Exc2000:



Boko Haram has a SIM card, Link your SIM card registration information and your National Identity Number and we can track bandits , herdsmen, and Boko Haram who calls victims for ransom...


.

If you can't track their sim and phone, you can't track anything even after ten synchronization.

You simply can not force people to collect NIN, they already have valid id's.

So network provider's will not resale their inactive sim card any longer, what's a useless government with daily bad policy's

jajeri3216:


The database with your finger print and picture should be the root . Eg bvn


All existing databases should be linked to this.

Eg.if you have bvn , you should be able to register for nin online by answering a few security questions like date of birth.

Once your nin is set up , just update all the phone numbers on the platform.

You are in the spirit bro, there has to be a root Database.
I suggested the NIN because;

1-it should have a Social security management system, the BVN could be used as the root Data, if it had a social security management system allocated to it.

2-Secondly the BVN has no tangible id means, ie a readable card, its more or less like a password with biometrics attached to it, however the NIN has a tangible id which is the National card, so if the cards are created with electronic readability (like atm cards), its best to be used as the root Database. The Biometrics and account data of the BVN can be integrated to the National id card.

Stupid and foolish people everywhere. NIM registration had been on for yrs before COVID. Asking the ministry to go and get phone numbers from BVN even makes SERAP be more stupid. My BVN is confidential to me. No institutions have the right to take my information without my consent. If you have your NIN simply dial codes provided by your network provider. No kangaroos called NGO can't drag us back.

Nigerians must sha talk...

Those shouting BVN...there are more Nigerians with SIM cards than bank accounts. How do you capture those ones?

Registration that takes few seconds with your phone as long as you have a NIN.

Buhari is too lenient abeg...If na Obasanjo that your organisation will be closed down.

Criticize with sense nah!

My friend told me that the guys are asking for 5k, here in PHC

Hier:
I heard NIMC staffs are extorting people big time

I also heard the essence of the registration was to stop extortion

NIMC is working indeed

Government of undertakers!

MrNipplesLover:
this government is just too fool...


the most idiotic government in the history of mankind.

The Govt is idiotic, you are difficult to manage. Simple instructions register for NIN, link your NIN to your mobile line, an problem.

I don't know why people are rushing to do nimc and get extorted. want to go do mine even before the useless minister make the announcement but the guy that was to capture me told i should come back in 2weeks or pay 4k to be captured same day, if you see the kain eyes i use size am. i know they will still extend it as they did bvn so am quite relaxed

God bless SERAP�

When did owning and blocking lines became subject of the law and human right abused, Lawyer?

AIIAssociates:
SERAPs proposed suit is in order

There is another suit on this matter https://thenigerialawyer.com/civil-society-groups-sue-minister-ncc-others-over-blocking-of-telephone-lines/

And yet another https://thenigerialawyer.com/sim-card-and-nin-ex-nba-vp-ubani-drags-fg-to-court-says-two-weeks-ultimatum-will-work-hardship-on-him/

These suits are in order. This is a clear case of executive overreach unless the reverse can be proven. The Honourable Minister of Communications and Digital Economy with all due respect has exceeded the bounds of the powers of his office. He is acting ultra vires. He needs to be reined in.

Our courts have done this before. In 2016, the Court of Appeal in FAITH OKAFOR V LAGOS STATE GOVERNMENT & ANOR [2016] LPELR-41066(CA) per Biobele Abraham Georgewill J.C.A had to answer the question of whether the directive of a State Governor which is not codified in a statute can amount to a breach of fundamental human right: That court held in part

"This is what Citizen Faith Okafor has complained about in this appeal, having herself become a victim. The Court below saw nothing and said nothing. It could neither understand nor stand or countenance the temerity of Citizen Faith Okafor in challenging, as it were, the directive of the Government of Lagos State that every person must stay at home and away from the streets of Lagos State on every last Saturday of the month save those so authorized to be on the street. Under Section 41(2) of the 1999 Constitution (as amended), for any law or every direction by the Respondent to merit justification, the restriction must be directed at any person who has committed or is reasonably suspected to have committed a criminal offence. Anything otherwise renders such a law or directive of the Governor of Lagos State unconstitutional, unlawful and illegal and thus to restrict the movement of every person, Citizens of this great country, who has neither committed any offence nor reasonably suspected of having committed a criminal offence in the name of enforcing sanitation directives of the Governor of Lagos State without any force of law is highly reprehensible, since it is unconstitutional. It is my view, that democracy thrives more on obeying and promoting the rule of law rather than the whims and caprices of the leaders against the lead. I find the conduct of the Respondent in not only persecuting the Appellant, yes that is what in my view it amounts to when a free Citizen of this great Country such as Citizen Faith Okafor, is put through the rigours of criminal process for an offence not prescribed in any written law but merely on the directive of the Governor of the Lagos State. An action which if allowed to thrive in a democracy such as ours could confer on such office holders infinite, absolute and autocratic powers contrary to the clear provisions of the Constitution of the land, to which both the leaders and the led are subject. I refuse to allow such autocratic, absolute and infinite powers to fester upon our nascent democracy. The Respondents, therefore, lacks the power in law to direct or order not only the restriction of movement of any and every person who has not committed any offence or is not reasonably suspected of having committed any criminal offence but also their prosecution, conviction and punishment for any offence not prescribed in any written law. The Respondent thus has no such carte blank cheque to direct the restriction of movement of free and innocent citizens of this country, merely because they reside or find themselves in the centre of excellence, Lagos State, on the streets of Lagos State on the last Saturday of the each month and prosecuting and convicting such persons, like the Appellant, for any offence not prescribed by any written law as an offence in Lagos State.

Applying the law to the facts, if a Governor of a State had no right whatsoever to impose his will on a citizen unless that will was captured in legislation, then the Honourable Minister of Communications and Digital Economy has no power whatsoever to place restrictions on the fundamental right to freedom of expression that did not align with constitutional provisions.

In plain English, unless it can be proven that the Honourable Minister's actions are backed by law, then this is not a case of enforcing the law, but a case of breaking law by the very arm of government tasked with ensuring that the law is enforced - that is the executive.

The fundamental right to freedom of expression and the press is enshrined in Section 39 of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.
It is not an absolute right. It has 5 limitations.

This right can be limited only by laws and not directives of the Honourable Minister that have not passed legislative scrutiny. The Honourable Minister should do the needful and align his proposals with the rule of law stand of the current administration.

Learn more about your constitutional rights with the help of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl8Dp5_CGiI

In 2013, the Court of Appeal in AG & COMMISSIONER OF JUSTICE, KEBBI STATE V HRH, ALHAJI AL-MUSTAPHA JOKOLO & ORS [2013] LPELR-22349 (CA) per Joseph Tine Tur, J.C.A had reason to determine how Section 41(2)(b)(ii) 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (as amended) would apply when it said in part:

" The further intention of the Constitution is that restriction or curtailment of the rights of an individual to move freely within and outside Nigeria or reside in any part of the country should be in accordance with the provisions of Section 41 of the Constitution… No body or authority can interfere with any of the fundamental rights enshrined under Chapter IV of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, except on the condition that can be supported before a Court of justice…. The executive powers of the Governor of any State must be exercised in accordance with law else the Courts will not shy from holding as invalid any law, an executive or administrative action that is not reasonably justifiable in a democratic society, be it in the interest of defence, public safety, public order, public morality, or public health, or that it is not for the purpose of protecting the rights and freedoms of persons in any part of the Federation. The Courts shall intervene to curtail or nullify abuse of powers and authority not supported by law. See GOVERNOR OF LAGOS STATE VS. OJUKWU [1989] 3 NWLR (Pt.18) 621, and OBEYA MEMORIAL SPECIALIST HOSPITAL VS. ATTORNEY-GENERAL OF THE FEDERATION & ORS. [1987] 3 NWLR (Pt.60) 325.

Applying the law to the proposals of the Honourable Minister, unless it can be proven that his directive issues from the law, his curtailment or attempts to curtail the fundamental right to freedom of expression are not in line with the Constitution.

Only then can his directives be supportable before a court of justice. Until then the executive powers of the Honourable Minister has been exercised in discordance with Nigeria's immutable law - the Constitution of the law which the Honourable Minister ought to uphold

There is thus every likelihood that our courts will hold his actions as invalid and not reasonable justifiable. The courts shall have no choice but to intervene, curtail and nullify the said abuse of powers and authority for lack of conformity with our laws