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What Is The Essense Of Religion? by CodeTemplar: 10:01pm On Mar 08, 2018
What are the things a religion should do in man's life to show that man has found the right religion?

Should it be effortless wealth, health, or brilliance like in the garden of eden in the Holy Bible, or fame, good job, love, charity, generousity or to grow old and have seeds ?

There should be something that we assume a true religion must address in a man's life to prove the authenticity of that religion.

I will like to hear from every single Nairalander.

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Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by greatnaija01: 10:09pm On Mar 08, 2018
RELIGION is useless because there is ONLY ONE GOD... and HE LOVES US ALL... he does not demand traditional rites or emblems to be worshiped all HE WANTS is that we know we are LOVED....

That is not RELIGION but RELATIONSHIP and it is only in JESUS we can find that.

A TRUE RELIGION will be a service to humanity and an acceptance of the LOVE from a BEING beyond time n space


CodeTemplar:
What are the things a religion should do in man's life to show that man has found the right religion?

Should it be effortless wealth, health, or brilliance like in the garden of eden in the Holy Bible, or fame, good job, love, charity, generousity or to grow old and have seeds ?

There should be something that we assume a true religion must address in a man's to prove the authenticity of that religion.

I will like to here from every single Nairalander.

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Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by CodeTemplar: 1:11am On Mar 10, 2018
@greatnaija01, and what are those thing the true religion should do for those who found it?
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by greatnaija01: 1:15am On Mar 10, 2018
religion as it is expressed in outward acts that is pure and unblemished in the sight of God is this: to visit and help and care for the orphans and widows in their affliction, even prisioners and need, and to keep oneself unspotted and uncontaminated from the world that is ever inventing new ways of perversion.


CodeTemplar:
@greatnaija01, and what are those thing the true religion should do for those who found it?
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by ameri9ja: 2:18am On Mar 10, 2018
CodeTemplar:
What are the things a religion should do in man's life to show that man has found the right religion?

Should it be effortless wealth, health, or brilliance like in the garden of eden in the Holy Bible, or fame, good job, love, charity, generousity or to grow old and have seeds ?

There should be something that we assume a true religion must address in a man's life to prove the authenticity of that religion.

I will like to hear from every single Nairalander.


Cc: HigherEd, Lalasticlala

One word: PEACE
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by CodeTemplar: 7:22pm On Jul 08, 2019
Lalasticlala. . .
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by budaatum: 2:00pm On Jul 10, 2019
Questions as these rely on a definition. Yours, CodeTemplar seems to imply "effortless wealth, health, or brilliance like in the garden of eden in the Holy Bible, or fame, good job, love, charity, generousity or to grow old and have seeds", while wiki gives:

Religion is a cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, morals, worldviews, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations, that relates humanity to supernatural, transcendental, or spiritual elements. However, there is no scholarly consensus over what precisely constitutes a religion.

The "essence", taking the definition I've given above, is simply to educate, albeit, archaic. If you could imagine a world where those around you have not been religionised into recognising commandments and loving their neighbours, you just might understand.

I can bet you wouldn't like living in a world devoid of people who have been religionised, unless you think there'd be brains in peoples' heads without it, which the evidence does not support.
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by CodeTemplar: 8:27am On Apr 15, 2020
budaatum:
Questions as these rely on a definition. Yours, CodeTemplar seems to imply "effortless wealth, health, or brilliance like in the garden of eden in the Holy Bible, or fame, good job, love, charity, generousity or to grow old and have seeds", while wiki gives:

Religion is a cultural system of designated behaviors and practices, morals, worldviews, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations, that relates humanity to supernatural, transcendental, or spiritual elements. However, there is no scholarly consensus over what precisely constitutes a religion.

The "essence", taking the definition I've given above, is simply to educate, albeit, archaic. If you could imagine a world where those around you have not been religionised into recognising commandments and loving their neighbours, you just might understand.

I can bet you wouldn't like living in a world devoid of people who have been religionised, unless you think there'd be brains in peoples' heads without it, which the evidence does not support.

You are taking my question as a definition and that not what it is. I was only asking when I listed those things I bold in your post. The question still stands anyway. What should a true religion do.

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Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by budaatum: 6:32pm On Apr 15, 2020
CodeTemplar:


You are taking my question as a definition and that not what it is. I was only asking when I listed those things I bold in your post. The question still stands anyway. What should a true religion do.
You are right, buda guilty. I was bookmarking. They were very intelligent questions that required thought and reflection, and I had to make sure I am reminded, as you just done, so now, let me.

CodeTemplar:
What are the things a religion should do in man's life to show that man has found the right religion?
A religion is right when it fulfills one's needs.

CodeTemplar:
Should it be effortless wealth, health, or brilliance like in the garden of eden in the Holy Bible, or fame, good job, love, charity, generousity or to grow old and have seeds ?
If the things listed are ones needs then yes. However, and since religion is imposed - as in, religious people receive their religion from a giver - and because you never have one religious person, the religion givers' goals are that we all evolve, which in a sense is all those things you listed and more. Essentially, any religion that helps accomplish evolution is the only right religion.
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by Nobody: 7:33pm On Apr 15, 2020
CodeTemplar:
What are the things a religion should do in man's life to show that man has found the right religion?

Should it be effortless wealth, health, or brilliance like in the garden of eden in the Holy Bible, or fame, good job, love, charity, generousity or to grow old and have seeds ?

There should be something that we assume a true religion must address in a man's life to prove the authenticity of that religion.

I will like to hear from every single Nairalander.


Cc: HigherEd, Lalasticlala

True religion must exhibit these qualities!
LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GENTLENESS, GOODNESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

This means divisive concepts like Politics and Racism can't survive in the midst of true worshipers! John 17:20-23

Even though other religionists may hate them due to their unwavering faith {John 17:14-16} true worshipers will have LOVE binding them as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! John 13:34-35 smiley
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by budaatum: 10:39am On Dec 20, 2020
First, a definition.

Religion is what you do when you join a group of like minded thinkers, or doers, depending on the religion you join, to learn a way of life that helps you achieve your goals and desires. One word for it, is to be a 'follower of' or a 'go together with' those whom you share goals and desires with.

One might join a religion that gives eternal life in heaven, for instance, or one of critical thinkers, or one of mathematicians, or one that advocates that you take responsibility for your own existence, or one that enslaves you to others, or one that prays for manna for 4 hours every morning, each joining a religious group according to their wishes and goals and desires.

To simplify however, let's just say a religion is an ideology by which a person chooses to live ones life and achieve ones goals and desires.

CodeTemplar:
What are the things a religion should do in man's life to show that man has found the right religion?
A right religion will progress your existence on earth, assuming most want to see tomorrow that is. It will empower you to ameliorate difficulties you may face in life and help you achieve your desires and goals. If your religion helps you achieve yiur goals and desires, you probably have found right religion for you.

CodeTemplar:
Should it be effortless wealth, health, or brilliance like in the garden of eden in the Holy Bible, or fame, good job, love, charity, generousity or to grow old and have seeds ?
If those are one's desires and goals then yes. Don't know about the "effortlessly" though, unless you mean like manna falling into one's mouth while sitting on ass doing nothing.

Generally, most things, good things at least, do tend to require some sort of effort.

CodeTemplar:
There should be something that we assume a true religion must address in a man's life to prove the authenticity of that religion.

The only thing to assume is that it works for the person who practises the religion. It's like beauty, in the eye of the beholder.

Some might for instance have a religion that is geared towards being a successful farmer so they religiously wake up early to go work diligently on their farm, while another might have a religion that would make them be good parents so they work hard on a religion of developing their family and children. Some might have a desire to be wise so they adopt a religious way of life that increases their wisdom, while some might have a religion that makes them go to heaven so they religiously do whatever will give them a ticket to the heaven they wish to go to. Some may have a desire of olosho fuqing so they adopt a religion that will help them fuq olosho, while some may wish to get a loan for their business and would not adopt a religion of do nothing but wail and starve.

One chooses one's goals and desires and adopts a religion that helps one achieve it, and if the chosen religion does help one achieve one's goals and desires, it is most definitely the authentic religion, for one.
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:45pm On Dec 20, 2020
CodeTemplar:

What are the things a religion should do in man's life to show that man has found the right religion?

Should it be effortless wealth, health, or brilliance like in the garden of eden in the Holy Bible, or fame, good job, love, charity, generousity or to grow old and have seeds ?

There should be something that we assume a true religion must address in a man's life to prove the authenticity of that religion.

I will like to hear from every single Nairalander.
Cc: HigherEd, Lalasticlala

Religion means regular practices so could you rephrase your question?

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Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by Nobody: 3:00pm On Dec 20, 2020
CodeTemplar:
What are the things a religion should do in man's life to show that man has found the right religion?

Should it be effortless wealth, health, or brilliance like in the garden of eden in the Holy Bible, or fame, good job, love, charity, generousity or to grow old and have seeds ?

There should be something that we assume a true religion must address in a man's life to prove the authenticity of that religion.

I will like to hear from every single Nairalander.


Cc: HigherEd, Lalasticlala
Both religion and spirituality are unnecessary
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by budaatum: 3:40pm On Dec 22, 2020
HellVictorinho:

Both religion and spirituality are unnecessary
Define "religion". Define "spirituality".

Let us compare and reason then see if they are necessary or not.
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by Nobody: 8:54pm On Dec 22, 2020
budaatum:

Define "religion". Define "spirituality".

Let us compare and reason then see if they are necessary or not.
The definition that distinguishes religion/spirituality from other matters is the one that involves God(s).
Since God(s) can't be,these matters shouldn't be,too.
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by budaatum: 9:10pm On Dec 22, 2020
HellVictorinho:

The definition that distinguishes religion/spirituality from other matters is the one that involves God(s).
Since God(s) can't be,these matters shouldn't be,too.
But they happen to be. Still, it matters not. Define the religion/spirituality that you state "shouldn't be".

You must after all have a what they are before stating they are not.
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by Nobody: 11:18pm On Dec 23, 2020
budaatum:

But they happen to be. Still, it matters not. Define the religion/spirituality that you state "shouldn't be".

You must after all have a what they are before stating they are not.
People define religion/spirituality in different ways but I think it's more distinguishable to define religion/spirituality as that which involves practices that are done towards the expression of a belief in the existence of living things that cannot be seen with any technology or/and the human eyes.

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Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by budaatum: 12:31am On Dec 24, 2020
HellVictorinho:

People define religion/spirituality in different ways but I think it's more distinguishable to define religion/spirituality as that which involves practices that are done towards the expression of a belief in the existence of living things that cannot be seen with any technology or/and the human eyes.
That is why I am asking for your own different way. No?

What do you mean by, "can not be seen"? By whom? A blind person? But lets leave that for later

Define religion and spirituality anyway you like. Just ensure it is your own "people define".

Please note. You do not have to if you don't want to.
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by Nobody: 12:40am On Dec 24, 2020
budaatum:

That is why I am asking for your own different way. No?

What do you mean by, "can not be seen"? By whom? A blind person? But lets leave that for later

Define religion and spirituality anyway you like. Just ensure it is your own "people define".

Please note. You do not have to if you don't want to.
I have defined it as that which involves practices that are done towards the expression of a belief in spirits/Gods.
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by budaatum: 12:48am On Dec 24, 2020
HellVictorinho:

I have defined it as that which involves practices that are done towards the expression of a belief in spirits/Gods.
So, religion is specific to "the expression of a belief in spirits/Gods"?

Essentially, one can not have a religion of other things one believes in like money worship, or MillWall, or aliens, or just books, it has to specifically be "done towards the expression of a belief in spirits/Gods"?

Do you know Buddhism does not have Gods and spirits? Is Buddhism a religion, hell?
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by Nobody: 12:58am On Dec 24, 2020
budaatum:

So, religion is specific to "the expression of a belief in spirits/Gods"?

Essentially, one can not have a religion of other things one believes in like money worship, or MillWall, or aliens, or just books, it has to specifically be "done towards the expression of a belief in spirits/Gods"?

Do you know Buddhism does not have Gods and spirits? Is Buddhism a religion, hell?
It can also be defined as that which involves practices that are done according to the philosophy/reasoning of an influential person or/and as they are said to be done by such person.
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by budaatum: 3:33pm On Dec 24, 2020
HellVictorinho:

It can also be defined as that which involves practices that are done according to the philosophy/reasoning of an influential person or/and as they are said to be done by such person.
So, just about anything can be a religion so far as I use my brain or taught it by an influential person?

To be honest, I expected a much more defined definition of religion from you, but all you seem to be giving me is what religion involves, as if telling me what is involved in something is a definition of the thing.

Hell, how can religion be bad just because it involves "practices that are done according to the philosophy/reasoning of an influential person or/and as they are said to be done by such person"?

What if the philosophy/reasoning of an influential person is better that my own philosophy/reasoning? Would it be a bad thing to abandon my own philosophy/reasoning for the superior philosophy/reasoning of an influential person?

Is it bad for your philosophy/reasoning to influence me because religion is bad? Must I refuse to learn from you?
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by Nobody: 12:09pm On Dec 25, 2020
budaatum:

So, just about anything can be a religion so far as I use my brain or taught it by an influential person?

To be honest, I expected a much more defined definition of religion from you, but all you seem to be giving me is what religion involves, as if telling me what is involved in something is a definition of the thing.

Hell, how can religion be bad just because it involves "practices that are done according to the philosophy/reasoning of an influential person or/and as they are said to be done by such person"?

What if the philosophy/reasoning of an influential person is better that my own philosophy/reasoning? Would it be a bad thing to abandon my own philosophy/reasoning for the superior philosophy/reasoning of an influential person?

Is it bad for your philosophy/reasoning to influence me because religion is bad? Must I refuse to learn from you?
It is the one that has to do with God(s) that I was referring to as unnecessary.
What else do you want to hear?

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Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by budaatum: 1:37pm On Dec 25, 2020
HellVictorinho:

It is the one that has to do with God(s) that I was referring to as unnecessary.
What else do you want to hear?
I've heard enough. Thanks.
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by tobechi74: 3:13pm On Dec 25, 2020
To answer questions that may never be questioned
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by budaatum: 9:45pm On Dec 26, 2020
I can't see what
HellVictorinho:
It's still impossible for NOTHING to exist!!
has to do with

budaatum:

Define "religion". Define "spirituality".

Let us compare and reason then see if they are necessary or not.

Did I miss something?
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by Nobody: 1:57am On Dec 27, 2020
budaatum:
I can't see what has to do with



Did I miss something?
I actually wanted to post it elsewhere.
It happened by accident.
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by orunto27: 9:09am On Dec 27, 2020
OBEDIENCE AND CONSEQUENCES.
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by sonmvayina(m): 9:47am On Dec 27, 2020
What is a pagan religion and what is not ?...who determines what is and is not ?

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Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by sonmvayina(m): 9:48am On Dec 27, 2020
HellVictorinho:

It is the one that has to do with God(s) that I was referring to as unnecessary.
What else do you want to hear?

What is a pagan religion and what is not ?...who determines what is and is not ?
Re: What Is The Essense Of Religion? by Nobody: 10:06am On Dec 27, 2020
sonmvayina:


What is a pagan religion and what is not ?...who determines what is and is not ?
Based on my observations,I was able to determine or/and deduce the ways in which religion can be defined.

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