sammy329:
Believers are eternally secured in Christ
Hebrews 10:10-14 (KJV) By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

DappaD:


So what did Paul and Peter mean at Philippians 2:12 and 2Peter 1:10?

sammy329:
Philippians 2:12-13 (KJV) Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
It says work out your salvation, not work for your salvation, because there is a power at work in the believer to do good work

sammy329:
2 Peter 1:6-10 (KJV) And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
In context, Peter was encouraging believers to take note of the virtues he listed before verse 10

DappaD:

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The “Once saved, always saved” belief is a huge fallacy because Paul and Peter, noted that one can shrink back and return to engaging in former practices that are contrary to God's standards which will terminate a person's prospect for salvation. Hebrews 10:36-38, 2Peter 2:20-22

sammy329:


Hebrews 10:36-39 (KJV) For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

This in context was not about the believer losing salvation, or else the author will be contradicting himself.

many think that the author is saying that if person claims to be a Christian but “draws back” he was either not saved to begin with, or he loses his salvation. Since the author of Hebrews knows a person cannot lose their salvation (10:10, 14), we know that he is not talking about such a situation.

haddeylium:
Salvation is purely an expression of God's undeserved kindness!

No amount of works can earns someone salvation.

God's in his mercy extend this invaluable gift to anyone that excercise/show faith in Christ ransom sacrifice.

The Only way to show true faith in Jesus' sacrifice is through our works . "Faith without work is dead".
It's so because even the demons believe Jesus but they don't have work to show for it!


Heb. 5:9, : “He [Jesus] became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him.”

That verse shows that Salvation is conditional and exclusive !
Obedience to him 'is the work that demonstrate Genuine Christains Faith'

sammy329:
Jesus told them, “This is the only work God wants from you: Believe in the one he has sent.” John 6:29.

quote author=haddeylium post=97371188]Salvation is purely an expression of God's undeserved kindness!

No amount of works can earns someone salvation.

God's in his mercy extend this invaluable gift to anyone that excercise/show faith in Christ ransom sacrifice.

The Only way to show true faith in Jesus' sacrifice is through our works . "Faith without work is dead".
It's so because even the demons believe Jesus but they don't have work to show for it!


Heb. 5:9, : “He [Jesus] became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him.”

That verse shows that Salvation is conditional and exclusive !
Obedience to him 'is the work that demonstrate Genuine Christains Faith'.

madegreatbygrace:




Be mindful of how a word is used in the Bible, especially in the New Testament.

To the scripture in view, the first question you need to ask yourself is this:

Obedience to what ? Is the obedience to a set of rules or a particular instruction? When you read through the entire New Testament, you’d discover that obedience is used mostly for obedience for a particular instruction.

What is this instruction?

The instruction is to obey the gospel. In this context, anyone that obeys the gospel , obeys Christ. All you needed to do was a word study of obey/obedience.

“But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:17‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “ LORD, who has believed our report?””
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:16‬ ‭NKJV‬‬


“And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him,”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭5:9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬


“in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
‭‭II Thessalonians‬ ‭1:8‬ ‭NKJV‬‬


“Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart,”
‭‭I Peter‬ ‭1:22‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Reading through all the above verses, you should come to a conclusion that obeying Christ is obeying the gospel.

Therefore, Hebrews 5:9 is not applicable to believers, but to the unsaved.