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Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Nobody: 11:18am On Dec 27, 2020 |
LordReed:But humans have a complex or/and sophisticated brain. The lions don't think like humans do. So,if they don't kill something,it doesn't mean that thing has a right to life to them. They don't debate. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by LordReed(m): 11:23am On Dec 27, 2020 |
HellVictorinho: What has the complexity of brain got to do with it? They are alive despite their brain type or are you denying that? |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Nobody: 11:24am On Dec 27, 2020 |
LordReed:They don't debate rights like we do. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Nobody: 11:29am On Dec 27, 2020 |
LordReed:Lions don't kill in the name of depriving you of your right. They just kill to eat. They don't THINK it has anything to do with your rights. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by LordReed(m): 11:30am On Dec 27, 2020 |
HellVictorinho: So by your logic if an alien race that has an even more complex brain than us, finds us and decides that due to their higher order brain functions, we are good for food or extermination, you'd accept it? |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by LordReed(m): 11:33am On Dec 27, 2020 |
HellVictorinho: You assume because you have a complex language and communicate with symbols that other species cannot communicate or have thoughts? Besides how does being unable to think about rights deprive one of rights? Do mentally handicapped people and babies have no rights because they cannot debate those rights? |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Nobody: 11:36am On Dec 27, 2020 |
LordReed:If they exist and we are good for food,then we will have to defend ourselves instead of debating whether they should be themselves or not. Besides,there is a chance we will win since they may not be united. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by LordReed(m): 11:38am On Dec 27, 2020 |
HellVictorinho: Then you in the sight of any being that sees you have food have no rights, its that simple. Your brain function is a cop out to your own argument. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Nobody: 11:39am On Dec 27, 2020 |
LordReed:The inability to think about rights doesn't deprive one of rights. It only means nothing/nobody has rights according to such animal. In other words,rights don't exist according to such animal. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Nobody: 11:42am On Dec 27, 2020 |
LordReed:If I don't need a right to life,then I don't need a right to kill. It's war. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by LordReed(m): 11:43am On Dec 27, 2020 |
HellVictorinho: HellVictorinho: Thus defeating your own argument. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Dtruthspeaker: 11:46am On Dec 27, 2020 |
LordReed: Ok! And yes, you captured the whole world by your definition, but it is too large to study the whole world at once. Therefore, it is preferable to study the parts that make up the whole just as we first studied A,B,C before we could write speeches! LordReed: But you are not clearly saying whether a person who suffered harm or pain caused by the actions or inactions of another is entitled to Relief. Also, even though you have now implied that such a sufferer may get relief, but there is also another implication which I would like you to clear up, which is, that you also think that a sufferer should not be relieved, which is in direct conflict with your first implied answer. So, what is your True Clear Answer to the question "Do you think that the sufferer should and must be given relief from and for all of his suffering?" LordReed: If you had this in mind then you have left the A,B,C Class, where I am to Primary 1 Class where I am not. So let's find the A,B,C place of Relief, then we could proceed to further areas of coverage. So please could you clear up the Problem of your Implied Answer by putting down a clearer one? |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by LordReed(m): 11:54am On Dec 27, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: Ok then the short answer is yes humans suffering deserve relief. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Nobody: 11:57am On Dec 27, 2020 |
LordReed:What was my argument? I said anything that I have to eat or/and anything that can or/and wants to hurt me doesn't have a right to life. If anyone or anything wants to kill me,I shouldn't care whether it's because it/she/he thinks other humans have rights except me. I shouldn't even care whether it/she/he has a philosophy or not. I should be ready to die if I can't save myself or ready to kill if I can save myself. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by LordReed(m): 12:02pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
HellVictorinho: You argued that right to life is because of brain function did you not? |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Nobody: 12:16pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
LordReed:Off course. Since you are not harming yourself physically, you think you have a right to life. Since Hell Victorinho doesn't sound like someone that wants to kill you now, you think he has a right to life. But you don't think the coronavirus has a right to life because it can or/and it wants to kill you. Ultimately,rights exist in minds or they don't exist at all. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by LordReed(m): 12:23pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
HellVictorinho: A virus is not alive so can't have a right to life. Anything that lives can have rights to life even if those rights are granted by minds. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Nobody: 12:27pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
LordReed:A virus has some characteristics of living things. So, when I say "life" in that instance,I am referring to those characteristics. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Dtruthspeaker: 12:30pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
LordReed: Ehen, thank you! But, it is still not complete for you stopped at "suffering" which is wide but the question is specific to suffering caused by the harmful conduct of another person. So, please could you capture your answer in the light of sufferings caused by the harmful conducts of another person? |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by jantman(m): 12:32pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
Christmas's is never a Pagan Origin. It is a celebration of love and the birth of our Dear Lord. We as Christians dont know the day/month/year that Christ was born, but we know that he was born on Christmas's day. We decided to celebrate him this day 25th/Dec Just imagine a world were there is no Celebration? Even the false Jehovah witness who hated Christmas's so much have their day of celebration and yet condemn ours. For those of you who dont celebrate christmass and yet condemn our Christmas. GET THE Bleep OUTA HERE. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Dtruthspeaker: 12:39pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
LordReed: Thank you too |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by sonmvayina(m): 12:57pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: A little ego massage....lol |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by LordReed(m): 1:03pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: Yes relief is deserved. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Dtruthspeaker: 1:12pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
LordReed: Please, Pardon me, Relief from what? |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by LordReed(m): 1:13pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: From sufferings caused by the harmful conducts of another person. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Dtruthspeaker: 1:25pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
LordReed: Thank you! But, please, could you give me the full answer as a complete whole, instead of having me put together your severed answers? The "who", who suffers from the harmful conduct caused by another, is missing in this statement. It has to be a complete statement for it to have True Good Value! |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Auki: 2:13pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
The celebration doesn't belong to Christians to start with. The atheist and Pagan are the original owner. Do some research to unbundle the package sold to you as religion. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by LordReed(m): 3:10pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: All humans who suffer harmful conduct caused by another deserve relief. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:59pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
LordReed: Most grateful! Quite an unusual choice of word "human"! Is there a reason why you used "humans" instead of persons or people? |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by LordReed(m): 9:24pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: Not really. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by TruthSeeker1: 9:39pm On Dec 27, 2020 |
Because Christmas is not really a religious practice, but an occasion for merry-making, traveling and spending time with family and friends. |
Re: Why Do Atheist Celebrate Christmas? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:27am On Dec 28, 2020 |
LordReed: At least could i take that your use of the word "humans" also means people, persons, individuals, personalities? |
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